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28-Year-Old Businessman Accused of Stealing $1 Billion From Moldova

An anonymous reader writes: You could be excused for not knowing much about Moldova — the small, Eastern European country has a population of around 3 million and occupies about 13,000 square miles of territory. Its GDP is just over $6 billion — which makes accusations that 28-year-old Ilan Shor stole close to a billion dollars from the country's banks quite interesting. A recent report (PDF) says Shor led a group that bought controlling stakes in three Moldovan banks and then passed transactions between them to increase their liquidity. The banks then issued massive loans to companies owned or related to Shor. $767 million disappeared from the banks, and the country's central bank thinks that total will rise to $1 billion. It was forced to bail out the banks to keep the economy from crashing. Widespread corruption led to many records of Shor's actions being "lost" or outright deleted. He's now charged and placed under house arrest while the investigation continues.

133 comments

  1. Guess it won't be... by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

    that great a place for software development facilities anymore.

    1. Re:Guess it won't be... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      why not? a crappy economy means things should be dirt cheap, if you pay with real money [which would be anything but Modollars].

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  2. Never pull a job without proper status by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

    You can't just do this without insider help. And by insiders, I mean government officials.

      Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...

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    1. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by mysidia · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can't just do this without insider help. And by insiders, I mean government officials.

      Wouldn't happen here. In Soviet America; Bank robs you!

    2. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by jgtg32a · · Score: 5, Insightful

      TARP had an 8.2% ROI in 6 years, not too shabby.

    3. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by sycodon · · Score: 1

      So...kinda like here in the U.S.

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    4. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shabby. That's like 1% per year. You'd do better investing in almost anything else.

    5. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With $426.4 billion you have to invest in everything since no one party will be able to guarantee 1% return on such a large principle. I have heard of banks refusing money because they can't pay the interest.

    6. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by dale.furno · · Score: 0

      The government handled those assets and did not lose monies in the process?

    7. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by JustBen · · Score: 1

      The guy they are pinning this on isn't really very bright. He's just the patsy for the government officials that are actually responsible. A man named Vladimir Plahotniuc and his associates are the ones actually responsible.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Plahotniuc

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    8. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by CaptainLard · · Score: 0

      Ok 1% a year may well be shabby....but the US (and the world) still has an economy so there's that.

      Yall can argue TARP wasn't executed in the best way (agreed) and might not have fixed the underlying problem (agreed) but none the less, it happened at a time when everyone agreed we were in a worst case scenario and now we're not. If you add that in, its more like 10000% ROI.

    9. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      The Market has done better than 8% per year the past 5 years, it's shabby. TARP recipients received the equivalent of Federal Disaster Funds at low interest.

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    10. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hence why many banks now offer a negative interest.

    11. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry, everyone didn't agree. There is no way to measure something that didn't happen. Hanging a percent on it does nothing but show that you are math-illiterate.

    12. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

      Only because our President threatened to go back and add conditions regarding bonuses and other regulatory measures in exchange for letting the banks hold on to the TARP money. Shortly after that all these troubled companies had plenty of cash to pay back the gov't with. Hate to say it but if the other guy one I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have gotten that money back. That's a pretty big risk for 8%

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    13. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Only because our President threatened to go back and add conditions regarding bonuses and other regulatory measures in exchange for letting the banks hold on to the TARP money. Shortly after that all these troubled companies had plenty of cash to pay back the gov't with.

      No - most did not want to accept tarp money but the Obama administration made them so they then tried to get rid of those loans as quickly as possible
      http://www.businessinsider.com...
      http://cnsnews.com/news/articl...
      http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB...

    14. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      The *program* lasted six years, but the majority of the money was paid back 2-3 years in. It kept ahead of inflation and bond rates, so a net win for taxpayers.

      Not shabby at all, as bailouts go. Brilliant compared to Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac or the disaster that was the '80s S&L crisis.

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    15. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by dryeo · · Score: 1

      At least people went to jail for the S&L crisis. Still totally stupid to have deregulated.

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    16. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "principal", dingus.

    17. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can't just do this without insider help. And by insiders, I mean government officials.

      Wouldn't happen here. In Soviet America; Bank robs you!

      Why are you guys complaining? This is just the free market at work, imaginative businessmen bypassing the onerous tyranny of regulators.

    18. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Can't decide whether to mod your post Funny or Insightful. Guess I'll owe you one.

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    19. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by mysidia · · Score: 1

      imaginative businessmen bypassing the onerous tyranny of regulators.

      If by "tyranny of regulators", you mean the fed. providing the Bernake Put and allowing the businessmen to engage in any sort of risky businesses they want, and then steal trillions from taxpayers to bail them out when business goes bad, then sure.

    20. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 1

      Can't decide whether to mod your post Funny or Insightful. Guess I'll owe you one.

      It was intended to be: +1 Sarcastic

    21. Re:Never pull a job without proper status by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      That would be why, yes.

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  3. Two things I know about Moldova by Krishnoid · · Score: 2
    1. They're a poor country.
    2. They're home to Simpals, a group of animation companies.
    1. Re:Two things I know about Moldova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a source of highly skilled and very cheap technology labor. An offshorer's dream.

      This guy is living my dream.

    2. Re:Two things I know about Moldova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your dream is to be under arrest?

    3. Re:Two things I know about Moldova by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your dream is to be under arrest?

      The key to happiness is managing your expectations.

  4. $1 Billion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must have been using Bitcoins....

  5. I know the company from the movie RED 2 by jimwelch · · Score: 1

    Are you sure Frank or Marvin did not do this for the CIA?

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    1. Re:I know the company from the movie RED 2 by deKernel · · Score: 1

      "Moldova SUCKS!!!!"

    2. Re:I know the company from the movie RED 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually... compared to other Eastern European countries which all had this happen to them repeatedly, Moldova ROCKS! You know why? They caught him, while he was still in the country and they have a good chance at recovering some of those funds. That is a huge victory compared to the usual standard in such cases in Eastern Europe. GO MOLDOVA!

    3. Re:I know the company from the movie RED 2 by rjzak · · Score: 2

      I also am quite fond of Moldova. Lots of sights to see, and wine to drink.

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    4. Re:I know the company from the movie RED 2 by deKernel · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I was just making reference to my favorite quote from the movie Red by the actor John Malkovich that the parent comment reference.

    5. Re:I know the company from the movie RED 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought of exactly the same thing when I saw the lead.

    6. Re: I know the company from the movie RED 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the person held responsible for this doesn't seem that intelligent at all. It would be almost impossible for him to have done this alone, if at all.

      I'd bet large sums of money that this guy is a scapegoat; the person(s) that actually did this are probably in the Bahamas right now with some Thai hookers.

  6. Moldova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Most Europeans that don't live in countries near Moldova know it for its wine. I've actually been there (though only for about 3 days) and it is quite a poor country too by European standards. I imagine this is going to hit the Moldovan people pretty hard.

    1. Re:Moldova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is Moldova the one that's basically a non-contiguous set of river banks, or is that Moldavia?

      I always get them confused.

    2. Re:Moldova by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Moldavia was the medieval lands. Moldova is the current political nation. Same place though.

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  7. So then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He did the same thing bankers do in the rest of the world, only he didn't pay off the right people? Lesson learned.

    1. Re:So then by pitchpipe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Right?! I just don't understand why Moldova won't embrace the job creators like we do in the US. This man is a hero of capitalism.

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    2. Re:So then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, you socialists aren't jumping for joy for this forcible redistribution of wealth? Oh that's right, you're just upset it didn't go into your pockets.

    3. Re:So then by Copid · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yep, the socialists are totally into the idea of taking money from a bunch of poor people and giving it to one rich guy. You have their philosophy all figured out.

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    4. Re:So then by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      Yep, the socialists are totally into the idea of taking money from a bunch of poor people and giving it to one rich guy. You have their philosophy all figured out.

      That may not be the sheep's philosophy but that's how it tends to turn out.

    5. Re:So then by Copid · · Score: 1

      So you've gotten to the point where you realize the other guys are bad and that's what happens most of the time when the other guys are in charge. Wake me when you figure out that that's what happens most of the time no matter who is in charge.

      "Rich guy with access to lots of resources uses those resources to transfer more wealth to himself," is not exactly a major headline in any country. This one was just notable because it was really blatantly illegal.

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  8. They wouldn't have noticed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    had he extended the period in which he laundered the money. 3 days? Really?

  9. Shananigins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Makes you reminiscent for the days when such blatant grand larceny was punished by execution in the public square. It would seem appropriate for damn near single-handedly killing your country's economy.

    1. Re:Shananigins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seriously hope the entire population is surrounding his home in an angry lynch mob.

      It would be the only appropriate response.

  10. Amateurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as Eastern European country bank heists go, this guy is an amateur. The way professionals do it is by first controlling the government and the media. Then you steal the money (say some 7-8 billion) by funneling them through a chain of hollow companies to offshore accounts. Finally you set one of your partners with whom you have unsettled depth as the fall guy, while you yourself use your political connection to become the head of the local equivalent of the FBI:

    Bulgaria's CorpBank: A Tangled Web Of Fraud

    1. Re:Amateurs by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As far as Eastern European country bank heists go, this guy is an amateur. The way professionals do it is by first controlling the government and the media. Then you steal the money (say some 7-8 billion) by funneling them through a chain of hollow companies to offshore accounts. Finally you set one of your partners with whom you have unsettled depth as the fall guy, while you yourself use your political connection to become the head of the local equivalent of the FBI:

      Bulgaria's CorpBank: A Tangled Web Of Fraud

      Or just become President like Putin did

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    2. Re:Amateurs by umghhh · · Score: 1

      I knew I was missing something - thank you!
      No day is complete without paying respect to the great leaders of this world.

    3. Re:Amateurs by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      But that requires removing your shirt and wrestling bears!?! I'd still rather just e-transfer everything quietly.

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    4. Re:Amateurs by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      This 28 year old is the fall guy. This chump stayed within jurisdiction and got arrested. The real thieves are safe and away.

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    5. Re:Amateurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not a bank robery scheem only. Thats a major initiative by pro-russian commies in EEU to make people and coutries poor. Its a security breach in their bank sysytems since they target national security in this way proorly. Poor ciozens = unhappy citizens, troubled citizens, lessened personal and country security and Putin comes to you. And Moldova is just on his way after Ukrain.

      Also in Bulgaria they took more money but only from on bank. They tried to make a few banks bankrupt bu couldn't succeed so obviously bank system work on some good level due to EU practices probably but unfortunately not on level of pairing bank and national security. Since governent and SAs must have know (everybody did) that commies is planning it. Who did it is not of much importance since the commies and putin aim at more tgan a few billions.

  11. The Goldfinger angle...on Moldova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man has climbed Mount Everest. Gone to the bottom of the ocean. He has fired rockets at the Moon. Split the atom. Achieved miracles in every field of human endeavor... except crime!

  12. I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I had remembered that there was a small, Eastern European country that has a population of around 3 million and occupies about 13,000 square miles of territory. But I couldn't remember its name up until now - only that it rhymed with a part of the female anatomy.

    1. Re:I knew it wasn't "Delores" by al0ha · · Score: 1

      Wish I had a mod point +1 for the comedic reference...

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    2. Re:I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Latvia?

    3. Re: I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mulva

    4. Re:I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      I will do a self deprecating woosh over my head as I still can't work out what term of the female anatomy either Seinfeld or whatever is referring to.

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    5. Re:I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 1

      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... . Also, my apologies for spelling "Dolores" wrong.

    6. Re:I knew it wasn't "Delores" by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Must be the American accent.....

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  13. Bailout by Bigby · · Score: 0

    So why did they bailout the banks? I want to buy a bank and do whatever I want. Apparently there are no repercussions. Don't bail them out and problem solved. It sounds like the perpetrator knew the lender of last resort would step in to "hand over" $1b in free money.

    1. Re:Bailout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is immaterial to the perpetrator of the fleecing here whether the government bails out the banks or not. The perpetrator has already taken the money via having it loaned, so whether the bank goes bankrupt or not doesn't matter to them, but it does matter to the government.

      Banks are in an interesting position since they have control over assets that can far exceed the bank's actual value. Of course, legally the bank cannot just take these assets since they are storing deposits on behalf of customers, but they can lend out this money (minus a % they have to keep in hand at all times per regulation).

      So a scheme could work like so:

      - Buy a controlling interest in a bank, one where the purchase cost is a small fraction of the deposits the bank manages.
      - Make transactions (selling debt, taking loans, etc) to allow the bank to have as much cash on hand as possible.
      - Lend out all of this cash to companies you control, with no collateral on the loans.
      - Have those companies pay the money to other companies you control for services etc.
      - The first set of companies now all default on their loans, and there is no collateral to pursue.
      - Bank goes bankrupt (or gets bailed out), doesn't matter to you either way.
      - Roll around in your money, which is now off-shore so it can't be seized.

    2. Re:Bailout by Copid · · Score: 1

      This, 100x. They're not bailing out "the bank" or the bank's owners. They're bailing out the people who were doing business with the bank who thought it was a bank and not a scam to steal all of the assets the bank was managing. If they can't get the money back from the people who stole it (and it looks like that's pretty unlikely), those people are in a world of hurt without some intervention.

      In either case, boiling the perpetrators in oil is probably a good next step. Not doing that is where we tend to go wrong.

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    3. Re:Bailout by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      I thought it was the Uzbeks that boiled them, not the Moldavians.

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    4. Re:Bailout by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      It happened in Western Europe in older times, precisely for people that messed with money. You don't mess with coins with a king's face on it else said king will get very pissed at you.
      You would have to be someone pretty important to get boiled in oil, though. Oil is very expensive and it is a big waste to use it for torture or as a weapon.

    5. Re:Bailout by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Oil is very expensive and it is a big waste to use it for torture or as a weapon.

      Vegetable oils are cheap, plentiful, and appear to work quite well on chicken legs and potato wedges.

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    6. Re:Bailout by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      I mean in pre-modern times, where I believe it to be very valuable.
      Even today it is not that cheap to the average African, as it has to be priced at least as much as diesel fuel.
      While the idea of throwing boiling oil on people who assault your castle is popular, they rather used pitch http://theurbanabo.com/urban_h...
      If I were an evil overlord I would certainly consider throwing political enemies in a frying pan, watching while having dinner.

    7. Re:Bailout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about in salad dressing?

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    8. Re:Bailout by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Most of the woodcuts depicting the act showed a large cauldron with the boilee inside, surrounded by flames. Presumably the boilers used water.

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  14. Goldman Sachs by digsbo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    GS would love to hire this guy.

  15. Manipulation? by jythie · · Score: 1

    So what I am curious about, is what they did actually illegal, or is it a case of private currency manipulation? There have been a few historical cases where rich individuals or companies were able to go into poor countries and warp their economy before crashing or gutting them.

    When your GDP is lower than some individual's incomes, some interesting but bad things can happen.

    1. Re:Manipulation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      well if its not illegal it should be, and they should simply execute him,

      rich assholes fucking with the lively hood of an entire country should not be tollerated by society they should be drawn and quartered publicly as an example.

    2. Re:Manipulation? by Copid · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure in general it's illegal to take out a loan with no intention of paying it back. That's the bare minimum I can think of. There's also the fact that while he had a controlling share of the banks, it doesn't sound like he completely owned them, so he defrauded the other shareholders of the bank. Then there are the main victims--all of the bank's customers. It's pretty blatantly illlegal to set up a bank, take deposits, and then walk off with them. This is doing exactly that but using some other companies to do the walking off part. I'd be stunned if there were enough loopholes for this guy to plausibly claim that what he did was illegal. However, I wouldn't be totally surprised if he was friendly enough with the government to get off with a slap on the wrist. I have no idea how the legal system works over there, but I do know that he has a lot of money to spread around if he needs to.

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    3. Re: Manipulation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know anything about Moldova's laws or regulations. But in all modern countries it breaks banking regulations (Basle Agreement = international standard). Messing with banking regulations can take you to prison in various countries. So yes, illegal.

  16. Why did he stay? by Lifix · · Score: 1

    So why did he stick around? If I had $1b in the bank, had covered my tracks, I certainly wouldn't stick around?

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  17. If you want to get away with a crime - go BIG by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You steal $1000 dollars and the police look for you. You steal $100,000 and the FBI looks for you. You steal $10,000,000 and the banks hire you. You steal $1,000,000,000 and the lawyers get you off on a technicality.

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    1. Re:If you want to get away with a crime - go BIG by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

      You steal $1000 dollars and the police look for you.
      You steal $100,000 and the FBI looks for you.
      You steal $10,000,000 and the banks hire you.
      You steal $1,000,000,000 and the lawyers get you off on a technicality.

      Ask Bernie Madoff how that's working out.

  18. Jon Corzine hires new assistant by random+coward · · Score: 2

    And in unrelated news Jon Corzine hired a new 28 year old assistant with banking experience in Moldova...

  19. illogical by OrangeTide · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's my American bias, but it's not possible for a bank to steal from the government. Because governments are property of the bank.

    The problem here is the other banks were not able to transfer the entire country's GDP to their individual executives.

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    1. Re:illogical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, smug and stupid... That would be your liberal bias.

    2. Re:illogical by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      I forget, so please refresh my memory, are liberals for government control of the banks or are they for bank control of the government?

      (I'm pretty sure I'm against either)

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  20. Banking Criminals by Forgefather · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Freaking Moldova can put a banker in jail, why can't we?

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    1. Re:Banking Criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      US government politicians are much cheaper to bribe

    2. Re:Banking Criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Neville Chamberlain" Obama, Hillary Clinton, Barney Franks, etc. We don't have a democracy, we have an auction.

    3. Re:Banking Criminals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      House arrest in your mansion is hardly jail. The only butt hurt risk is overly phallic decorative fixtures.

    4. Re:Banking Criminals by akgooseman · · Score: 2

      Freaking Moldova can put a banker in jail, why can't we?

      The problem is we insist on calling these people "bankers". They're no more bankers than I am. They're criminals who have infiltrated the banking system.

    5. Re:Banking Criminals by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      They're criminals who have infiltrated the banking system.

      That is only after they are caught. In the US and most of Europe and Asia those criminals are still bankers.

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    6. Re:Banking Criminals by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      You seem to think there is a difference between banker and a criminal. How quaint 20th century notions persist after 2008 I can't imagine.

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    7. Re:Banking Criminals by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Except that he's *NOT* in jail.... He's under HOUSE ARREST. I think he should be in jail. Certainly, he didn't actually physically walk to the banks and cram cash into large cloth bags with a giant dollar sign on them... He probably did all of this banking over the phone. He could still do more damage from his house. He should be chained to a metal chair in a damp basement with a single incandescent bulb hanging from the ceiling. Instead, he's probably watching HBO in his living room eating caviar.

  21. Michael Lewis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like the next Michael Lewis book

  22. He was a dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was the front man for people who really got away with the money. I am sure there is a nest egg waiting for him for his silence and services.

  23. Did you say BILLION? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    "Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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  24. Shor's other Algorithm by davidwr · · Score: 1

    "Procedure for stealing $1B from a small country"

    This is probably not the Shor's Algorithm you are looking for.

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    1. Re:Shor's other Algorithm by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Are you Shor?

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  25. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by CronoCloud · · Score: 0

    Hey, those lost e-mails are not like a member of the military country under an arms embargo where americans had been held hostage for over 400 days to fund a bunch of drug dealing terrorists with the approval of rogue members of the executive branch against the direct order of congress signed into law by the very person who later broke it...which is technically high treason.

    Losing e-mails is penny ante stuff compared to the shit that goes down in Eastern Europe, Russia and the BRIC in general. We put people in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for the bribery and corruption that is just "expected" and goes on there.

  26. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody's making any accusations against little Moldova, you pathetic little troll. Moldovian law enforcement is accusing a Moldovian citizen of breaking Moldovian laws. Douchebag.

  27. Naivete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It was forced to bail out the banks to keep the economy from crashing."

  28. Hillary says it's okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hillary deleted a bunch of files and that was okay with The Executive Branch who enforces these things. It must be okay.

    1. Re:Hillary says it's okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I propose we start using the word Hillary to refer to things we delete. Perhaps even going as far as replacing "Delete" in operating systems with "Hillary". Maybe even "Format", such as I'm going to go rehillary my harddrive.

    2. Re:Hillary says it's okay by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I think that would be just to hillary your hard drive, not rehillary it. It may take on a life like Robert Bork (i.e. to be borked).

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      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    3. Re:Hillary says it's okay by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      So now wiping a hard drive is a Hillary? I'm not up to date on this, when did they send out the memo?

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      Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
    4. Re:Hillary says it's okay by Githyanki · · Score: 2

      So now wiping a hard drive is a Hillary? I'm not up to date on this, when did they send out the memo?

      I'm sorry, that information has been Hillaried.

  29. Bank of Elbonie by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds like Elbonian banking.

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    "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K
  30. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by mi · · Score: 2

    Hey, those lost e-mails are not like a member of the military

    Things must be pretty pathetic, if you must bring up Iran-Contras affair to defend a 21st-century Democratic politician. But, yes, those lost e-mails really are not like that. Whatever you might think of Lt-Colonel Norton and that entire things, that business was not for personal gain.

    Losing e-mails is penny ante stuff

    Losing would've been. But it was deliberate destruction of records. And lying to Congress.

    the shit that goes down in Eastern Europe, Russia and the BRIC in general

    Duude, you are talking to a Ukrainian expat :-)

    We put people in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for the bribery and corruption

    If the said pounding really was, what Clinton and Lerner were "facing", I would've been content — and fighting to stop the sexual abuse of inmates. But one of the women retired with full pension, and the other one is fixing to become President — with 46% of the nation retaining "favourable" opinion of her... Maybe, Americans ought to learn, what "Maidan" has come to mean too...

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  31. If He Thinks Being in Jail is Bad... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    ...wait until Victor Von Doom finds out what he did.

  32. can be done legally by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    that's what the dynastic families that control the Western banking cartel and Wall Street do

  33. Amateur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    $16 billion USD was flown into Iraq by the USM after the start of the 2003 war ... and ... it's gone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkU

  34. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your trolling is getting boring. You're losing your touch. Try a bit more subtlety. And remember, you can't shame a sociopath, so all your blabbering about e-mails will get you nowhere. Get your ass out of those right wing rags you read!

  35. Not stealing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not stealing.
    Stealing is the violation of such property rights, as are claimed and enforced by a sovereign state.

    If they haven't caught him yet, either they aren't enforcing their claims and have de-facto abandoned them rendering then non-property, or they aren't the sovereign state - he is.
    In conclusion, Mother Nature points at Moldova and laughs.

  36. Transnistrina by goodmanj · · Score: 1

    Hmm. This guy just grabbed 1/6 of Moldova. Transnistrina, a rebellious province of Moldova that Moldova technically owns but can't govern, is about 1/6 of the country. So rather than prosecuting him, Moldova could just give him Transnistrina in exchange for the $1 billion and wish him good luck with that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...

    1. Re:Transnistrina by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      What happens if the guy resells Transnistria? I heard Ukraine's president was interested at "fixing" it. Fortunately he lacks the money, that will save us from making the local situation even more a mess.

    2. Re:Transnistrina by goodmanj · · Score: 1

      There's one problem with Ukraine "fixing" Transnistria: The region is full of ethnic Russians who loved the old Soviet Union, and are being supported by Russia to be a pain in the ass. In short, it's a prototype of Ukraine's Donetsk and Crimea problems. And that's more problems than Ukraine can handle right now.

    3. Re:Transnistrina by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      You could not be more right by comparing Transnistria to Donbass.

      • In both cases, the conflict ignited because the state decided to suppress Russian as an official language.
      • In both cases, the state was not able to recover control over the separatist regions
      • In both cases, the separatist regions asked through referendum to be integrated into Russia
      • In both cases, the Russian parliament refused integration
      • In both cases, Russia does not recognize the separatist region as being a sovereign state.

      The Russian strategy is the same: either the region remains outside of the state control, or the state is federalized to offer some autonomy to the separatist region. In both cases, the state cannot integrate NATO: either it has a latent conflict and other NATO member states do not want to automatically act on it as NATO treaty request. In the federalization case, integrating NATO would require all federalized regions to agree, and obviously the pro-Russia regions would refuse.

  37. legal fees by Phusion · · Score: 1

    At least he won't have trouble with paying for all of the legal fees he's about to incur :)

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    640k ought to be enough for anyone.
  38. Rat is running away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Israeli-born magnate whose favourite city is Moscow is probably running away before escalation of conflict in Transnistria.

    Russia time is running out and they are likely to try to annex Ukrainian territory to have access to both Crimea and Transnistria.

  39. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

    But, yes, those lost e-mails really are not like that.

    Dude, people lose/delete e-mail by accident ALL THE TIME, no conspiracy or ulterior motives involved. It's one of those things that can happen to anyone.

    Whatever you might think of Lt-Colonel Norton

    His NAME is North.

    that business was not for personal gain.

    Not directly, but doing what your bosses want can be percieved as personal gain. And destroying evidence, which he did, was most certainly for personal gain. And he has certainly turned his criminal and treasonous acts into a career as a right-wing pundit...for personal gain.

    And you may not realize this but Breitbart is not an unbiased source. Neither is IJReview, it's not "Independent" if it's founded and run by Republicans and has Republican biases.

    Duude, you are talking to a Ukrainian expat :-)

    Then you might want to listen more and spout off less about American politics, tovarysh.

    just because you moved to the US (probably to make more money than you could back in the batÊkivshchyna) doesn't mean you have to turn into an Ayn Rand (whose real name is Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum) clone. What is it with ex-russians/ukrainians turning into selfish-asshole right-wing/libertarian zealots once they emigrate. Even Yakov Smirnoff has a bit of that.

  40. Seems Fair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steal a stick of deodorant so you can smell good and get a job, go directly to jail. Steal 1/6th a countries GDP through a bank, get house arrest.

  41. 1 billion in Moldova? by BeemanIT · · Score: 1

    I've been to Moldova and can't believe there exists a Billion anywhere in that country. However a lot of human trafficking does happen through there.

  42. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by mi · · Score: 1

    And you may not realize this but Breitbart is not an unbiased source

    Are you disputing a single fact stated on the page I linked to? No, you do not. Your attempt at rebuttal is therefor null and void and without any merit whatsoever.

    Then you might want to listen more and spout off less about American politics, tovarysh.

    Should I ever suddenly develop a need for your opinion on what I should be doing, I'll pump it out of your asshole, asshole. With a broomstick. But nice to see an Illiberal's real attitude towards immigrants, anyway. Thank you for this moment of clarity.

    What is it with ex-russians/ukrainians turning into selfish-asshole right-wing/libertarian zealots once they emigrate

    Well, now, since you turned this polite conversation to be entirely about me rather than corruption of public officials in countries rich and poor, here it goes...

    We aren't turning "libertarian" — we moved here, because we always were. And we are disappointed. Disappointed, that the free country we were expecting to find here, is not as free as the USSR propaganda was claiming. That the Collectivism, of which we had our fill growing up, is alive and well here and that various jerk-offs like yourself prove their unselfishness by voting to force others to pay for their favourite causes.

    How could you defend Hillary Clinton's life-long history of corruption ("cattle futures" rings a bell? moo!..) by calling her critic a "selfish-asshole" is beyond me. Is this supposed to convince anyone, that she is a fine lady, or something? Oh, well, I suppose, you'll understand, if I never reply to you, again, asshole.

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  43. Re: Clever girl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    COTY!!! +100

  44. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    The fact that you turn vicious as soon as someone disputes what you say speaks volumes.

    Do us both a favour and don't ever reply to me again, either.

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    Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
  45. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    And we are disappointed.

    They had you thinking it was all blackjack and hookers,eh? You should've moved to Vegas and become a pit boss.

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  46. Re:Hey, don't blame corruption! by bouldin · · Score: 1

    You clearly don't like the USA, so get out. Move to Hong Kong or Singapore. http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking