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The Demographic Future of America's Political Parties
HughPickens.com writes: Daniel McGraw writes that based on their demographic characteristics the Democratic and Republican parties face two very different futures. There's been much written about how millennials are becoming a reliable voting bloc for Democrats, but there's been much less attention paid to one of the biggest get-out-the-vote challenges for the Republican Party heading into the next presidential election: The Republican Party voter is old—and getting older and far more Republicans than Democrats have died since the 2012 elections. By combining presidential election exit polls with mortality rates per age group from the U.S. Census Bureau, McGraw calculated that, of the 61 million who voted for Mitt Romney in 2012, about 2.75 million will be dead by the 2016 election. About 2.3 million of President Barack Obama's voters have died too but that leaves a big gap in between, a difference of roughly 453,000 in favor of the Democrats. "I've never seen anyone doing any studies on how many dead people can't vote," laughs William Frey, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who specializes in demographic studies. "I've seen studies on how many dead people do vote. The old Daley Administration in Chicago was very good at that."
Frey points out that, since Republicans are getting whiter and older, replacing the voters that leave this earth with young ones is essential for them to be competitive in presidential elections. "Millennials (born 1981 to 1997) now are larger in numbers than baby boomers ([born] 1946 to 1964), and how they vote will make the big difference. And the data says that if Republicans focus on economic issues and stay away from social ones like gay marriage, they can make serious inroads with millennials." Exit polling indicates that millennials have split about 65-35 in favor of the Dems in the past two elections. If that split holds true in 2016, Democrats will have picked up a two million vote advantage among first-time voters. These numbers combined with the voter death data puts Republicans at an almost 2.5 million voter disadvantage going into 2016.
Frey points out that, since Republicans are getting whiter and older, replacing the voters that leave this earth with young ones is essential for them to be competitive in presidential elections. "Millennials (born 1981 to 1997) now are larger in numbers than baby boomers ([born] 1946 to 1964), and how they vote will make the big difference. And the data says that if Republicans focus on economic issues and stay away from social ones like gay marriage, they can make serious inroads with millennials." Exit polling indicates that millennials have split about 65-35 in favor of the Dems in the past two elections. If that split holds true in 2016, Democrats will have picked up a two million vote advantage among first-time voters. These numbers combined with the voter death data puts Republicans at an almost 2.5 million voter disadvantage going into 2016.
One assumption that this summary makes is that people do not switch party affiliations throughout their life. I used to be Republican, but have wised up as I've gotten older. However, I understand that typically as folks get older they tend to do the opposite of what I did (though I have no source to cite for this). Nonetheless, if true, it would mean that Republicans have nothing to fear from the changing demographics. Unless the article addresses this, the information presented is meaningless.
Agreed... I was born and raised republican, but left the party a long time ago. I'd have become a democrat if the democratic party were anything like it was during the JFK years. Glad there's more choices, and no, I don't feel like I'm throwing my vote away.
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These trends are not new. The sole reason there is a Republican majority in the House of Representatives is the massive gerrymandering that took place in the last decades. Democrats have consistently won the "popular" vote for the house, but districts are tactically set to favor Republicans almost across the board.
The districts are this way because while Millennials do indeed skew heavily liberal/Democrat/progressive, they tend to NOT get involved in state and local politics. Republican governors and state legislatures used the last gasps of the dying generation to secure powerful gerrymandered districts ensuring the GOP holds onto the house, at least until the next census.
An interesting side effect, however, is that these artificial superdistricts are such that the Republican is practically guaranteed to win it in the general election. Thus, far-right tea party nonsense candidates can appeal to their local base without much fear of throwing the actual election over to the Democrats. The safer these districts are for Republicans, the further right, racist, sexist, and old they'll skew for the foreseeable future.
Until young people get active in local and state politics, then it literally is a game of just waiting for the current old set in those places to die of old age.
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Just because dead people are registered to vote doesn't make it voter fraud (it makes it registration fraud, but that's completely different). Now, if you had dead people actually voting (setting IL aside), then you might have a problem. However, the linked article says:
There's little evidence that this has led to widespread voter fraud, but it has raised concerns that the system is vulnerable.
Using this as a basis for demanding IDs to vote is completely dishonest and disenfranchises far more people from voting than you'd catch or prevent at voter fraud. My town sends out a yearly census that you fill out and send back in. Verify your registration details, sign, and send back in (you can probably also deposit it by hand at town hall or fill out the forms there). Not filling it out implies they'll take you off the voter rolls, and seems to be a good compromise if there's no reply after a few years.
The fact is there is one government and two major marketing organizations, Democrats and Republicans. As long as these two groups hold power the government will just continue on its current course. People are so gullible that they buy hook line and sinker what is feed to them by their designated marketing arm, which is mostly fear that the other side will do something bad. History in my lifetime has proven that once elected Democrats or Republicans govern in exactly the same way. The talking points on each side are just lip service to make sure they keep their designated demographics in line.
The only way to have a meaningful vote is to vote 3rd party. Voting D or R is a thrown away vote unless you love the status quo.
I'd become a REPUBLICAN if the Republican party were anything like it was in the JFK years. There were Hawks and there were Doves, but they weren't exclusively in one party or the other, and outside of their opposing views on war and expansionism, they could be civil to each other. It was only the Cold War and Nuclear Armageddon, not like the very foundations of the Universe were at stake.
Now everything's a pledge and a "litmus test" and the loonies run the asylum.
The conventional wisdom was that in your youth, you were a liberal and as you "wised up" (grew older/more cynical) you became conservative.
The joker in the deck was that presently the younger generation is less vanilla than the older generation and the older generation isn't being very welcoming to people who aren't like them and never will be. So what used to be a pipeline from Democrat to Republican has developed a blockage and a lot of people are being squeezed out of the party pipes entirely.
A modern JFK would be labeled pro-war; the party would complain about wasteful spending trying to outdo Russians; JFK was more conservative than most conservatives are today - and yet not ultra religious, racist, and bigoted the way most republicans come off (whether they are or not). JFK was for a stronger economy and realized that you needed successful businesses to do it.
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...decide to back legalizing pot and abandon their sex war against abortion, contraception and gays and probably pick up a lot of voters who might otherwise go Democratic.
Backing pot legalization would probably be popular with white collar swing voters who probably like the Republicans on taxes and ultimately take a lot of the harassment heat off blacks by stripping the police of one of their major repression avenues. They might even temper it by announcing that they're going to repurpose those resources being even more law and order on other criminal justice issues to mollify the cops and the law-and-order segment of the electorate.
Ending the anti-sex campaign against women may be even more beneficial. I've read that a lot of middle class women tend towards a certain conservatism and if you stop acting completely anti-woman this could be a major source of support.
Both parties are so close for the most part that it seems like only semi-radical changes on a handful of small issues is necessary to move swing voters. And both of these issues are big from a publicity perspective but probably less meaningful to the corporate guys who fund them.
Republicans could still be the anti-tax/pro-corporate party, pro-military and keep most of their base intact. They may alienate born agains and some law and order cranks with those changes, but who are those people going to vote for anyway? They're not going to vote for tax-hiking, gun-grabbing, affirmative action Democrats (intentional facetious remarks) no matter what.
It's harder to see the issues on which Democrats could being "radical" on. About the only one I can think of is giving up on their general penchant for gun control. They might consider bring more pro-labor when it comes to issues of immigration/H1-Bs but this runs counter to their larger embrace of multiculturalism and also gets them in trouble with Silicon Valley money that wants more tech immigrants.
Look no further than California, Maryland, and Illinois. The 3rd District of MD is an absolute abomination. Hell, the term "gerrymandering" itself is named after Governor Gerry of Massachusetts who was lampooned for signing odd-shaped state senate districts into law. But yeah, fuck all of the Republicans in those deep blue states -- as long as your team wins, right?
You're delusional (tainted by confirmation bias, no doubt) if you don't think democrats pull the same crap. I remember when voting for Bush would bring us back to the days of back-alley abortions. They both pick inconsequential things to motivate their bases - sometimes it works, sometimes not. Anyone that votes on a single issue should stay the %$R#@ at home.
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Right.. and people become Democrats once there are no jobs (a BA is the new HS diploma, fetch my coffee senior barista), and they become Democrats once their kids can't afford education and healthcare in unattainable.
It's happening, and there's nothing you can do about it. I've got a net worth in seven digit territory, and even I vote Dem because even with a mill or two stashed away, these days you can still find yourself easily fucked and depending on social safety nets. In addition, you disenfranchise everybody else long enough, and they're going to look at what YOU have.
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Welcome to the US where everything is given as two artificial choices. Seriously... I was approached a couple of days ago and asked if I believe laws should be based on the Bible? When I said no the person quickly accused me of wanting a "muslim theocracy (his words)". I guess the current constitutional republic wasn't one of the two choices he considered for his argument.
I'm not big supporter of either party. I'm like most of the US and just vote for the lesser of the two evils.
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... you buy a gun, and you become a republican. That's been the cycle for a long time. Yeah, lots of republicans have croaked lately but they're being replaced by democrats shifting over.
Besides, as we've seen the last 6 years there isn't much difference between the two. One party is right-wing, and the other is 1 order of magnitude further to the right. Either way the republicans and their supporters win.
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One can only hope. But we face the long hard task of the individualistic libertarians out there coming together in large enough numbers to begin to make a difference.
The irony is that the one thing too many of the Republicans and Democrats agree on is that the citizens have too much liberty.
I do sense a growing swell of "leave us the fuck alone" coming from the citizenry in many aspects of life. It is a message neither the Dems or Reps will acknowledge.
Perhaps libertarians can rise, but I worry it won't happen.
The "left"? There is no "left" in the US. What you call the "left" was once called the "middle", and Europeans still call it that.
Is there an actual, viable Communist Party in the US? No. (To call Obama a Socialist is to not have a clue about what "socialism" actually means.) Are there even widespread calls to increase the taxation rates to even European levels? No. The highest rate income tax rate in the UK was 90 percent when I was growing up in the 1960s. It's down to about 45% now, which is still over 5% higher than the American top rate. Not even the Democrats are proposing an increase of the top rate to 45%. They're corporatists, same as the Republicans. They only difference is that they're beholden to different corporate interests. .
OWS was a joke. If that's America's best attempt at a left-wing movement, then America has no left wing.
1) Hate-crazed science-denying racists and homophobes.
2) People who are willing to be associated with hate-crazed science-denying racists and homophobes.
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presently the younger generation is less vanilla than the older generation and the older generation isn't being very welcoming to people who aren't like them and never will be.
Ahhh, you youngsters. Do you seriously think that you're the first generation who thinks this? Aren't they teaching history anymore? EVERY generation grows up thinking THEY'RE the cool non-vanilla kids while resenting their elders and mocking everything about them. And then one day (if you're lucky), you wake up and look in the mirror, and you look like your Dad (or grandfather). And you won't even realize it, but you'll make a lot of the same decisions that Dad did too -- decisions that many would consider "safe" or even (gasp!) "conservative" (in a non-political way).
I know -- not you, 'cuz you're different, right?
Most people I know (I'm in my early 30's) have grown utterly disgusted with both Republicans and Democrats and are now more-or-less libertarians. I think it's a trend that will grow as more and more people realize that both Republicans and Democrats have utter contempt for civil rights and personal choice.
I think this is because political parties in the US have subsumed stereotypical family roles. Democrats prefer a nanny state that keeps close watch on citizens and protects them from their own bad judgement. Republicans prefer a papa state that keeps close watch on citizens and punishes them for bad judgement. Then there's a bunch of people who don't really think anyone has any business telling them how to live their life, so long as they're not hurting anyone else.
Came here to say this, and you said it quite well. Millennials will never have the money to make voting Republican look like anything approaching a decent idea, so most are going to be Leftists 4 Lyfe. There's a downside to impoverishing a whole generation that the conservatives didn't see coming.
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Capital-L Libertarians or lower-case-L libertarians? The two are not even remotely comparable.
Most people I know (I'm in my early 30's) have grown utterly disgusted with both Republicans and Democrats and are now more-or-less libertarians. I think it's a trend that will grow as more and more people realize that both Republicans and Democrats have utter contempt for civil rights and personal choice.
And how precisely would libertarians defend civil rights and personal choice, other than for those with the most money and power who would be free to shit over everyone else without any checks or balances?
Don't forget, "most people" aren't going to be in the top 1% (or 0.1%).
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Even as a Bible-believing conservative (and a registered Republican voter...*sigh*), I find myself aligning with the Republicans vanishingly often these days. I may be morally conservative, but that doesn't mean that I pine for the way things were hundreds of years ago, which is how I feel the party wants it when I see their stances on the economy, education, healthcare, military spending, and a number of other areas I see being reported in the news. The Republicans leave me with very little to agree with, other than the moral issues with which I feel obligated to align myself. I wish it wasn't this way.
The same is true for the Democrats, incidentally, just on different sets of issues. The real problem is that as a nation we have become so partisan and so polarized that non-issues become issues simply because "the other side" took a stance and we feel a sense of duty to disagree lest we let them claim credit. Honestly, with the way the Republicans have been marginalizing themselves recently, I'm hopeful that it'll either lead to a complete redefining of the party to incorporate the best aspects from the more successful smaller parties, or else will lead to the collapse of the party and its eventual replacement with something new. Naturally, the Democrats would position themselves to capture displaced Republicans, which would almost inevitably result in either the Dems or the new/redefined party being more appealing than what we have now.
Libertarian is just short hand for 'Bring on the post-apocalyptic waste-land. I'm tired of paying taxes and I have enough weaponry to impose my will on others.'
I don't think it's limited to those of your age. I"m about twice your age and I feel that both the Democratic and Republican parties have pretty much become an organization that feeds itself and no longer represents those who elected them.
Both seem to be war mongers (it's not as if Obama has gotten us out of Afghanistan). They both seem to perpetuate the military/industrial complex.
Remember, it was Kennedy that escalated the US presence in Vietnam. Ironically, it was Nixon who got us out of that war, only because the general population was fed up with all of our young being killed in a "no win" war.
The Dems seem to be nanny folks, union supporters and those bent on giving out welfare way too easy.
Repubs are religious right wingnuts. They are stuck way back in time with their "values".
I'm hoping that we all get frustrated enough to precipitate a viable third party candidate but the deck seems to be bent in the directing of only giving us two choices.
A perfect example of the failure of the system was the California Senate candidates being a choice between Barbara Boxer (yuk) and Carly Fiorina (yuk).
Some choice that is.