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ESA Satellite Shows Sudden Ice Loss In Southern Antarctic Peninsula
ddelmonte tips news that the ESA's CryoSat spacecraft has detected a sharp increase in the rate at which ice is being lost in a previously stable section of Antarctica. In 2009, glaciers at the Southern Antarctic Peninsula began rapidly shedding ice into the ocean, at a rate of roughly 60 cubic kilometers per year (abstract). From the ESA's press release:
This makes the region one of the largest contributors to sea-level rise in Antarctica, having added about 300 cubic km of water into the ocean in the past six years. Some glaciers along the coastal expanse are currently lowering by as much as four m each year. Prior to 2009, the 750 km-long Southern Antarctic Peninsula showed no signs of change. ... The ice loss in the region is so large that it has even caused small changes in Earth’s gravity field, detected by NASA’s GRACE mission. Climate models show that the sudden change cannot be explained by changes in snowfall or air temperature. Instead, the team attributes the rapid ice loss to warming oceans.
People have been talking about global warming/climate change/politically-correct-term since the last two decades but some countries just keep their head in the sand. *COUGH*U.S.A.*COUGH*
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These are outlet glaciers. They flow into the sea. The ice loss is more than balanced by accumulation on the Antarctic interior. More climate hysteria. More lies.
What a joke this site has become. Today's 'catastrophic man-made global warming' alarmist nonsense. Only one article today on 'climate change'?
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Being as it is the continent that encompasses the south pole, how do you define what is southern?
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Build a trench from the ocean to the desert. Let the excess water pool there. Problem solved.
I'm in the Philippines at the monent and its 40 degrees celsius plus and all the malls and everything else seems to be airconditioned down to 22 degrees celsius or so. Could someone crunch the numbers of the global heating caused by air conditioning starting with their power consumption and efficiency for example? I'm thinking that insulation might be a better investment to prevent climate change because otherwise, what we are doing is expending huge amounts of energy to cool small sections (and thereby heating everything else) on a massive and unprecedented scale...
They certainly have. But, to the best of my knowledge, none of the actual predictions made over these years by the "alarmists" have ever materialized.
Would you care to prove the above statement wrong? Try to post a list of link-pairs: first link in each pair shall point to a prediction and the second — to its materializing... Note, that entries containing only the latter will not be accepted — when a result is known, it is too easy to find somebody having "predicted" it.
The prediction and the materialization would have to be at least 3 years apart too — successfully predicting tomorrow's weather does not count, that is.
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Not sure how this is news for nerds. Warming oceans are melting ice. That's not a surprise, it's not something new. We already know the oceans are warming. We already had a pretty good idea that warmer water meant ice would melt. We already know sea level is rising, meaning ice is melting.
The news part would be if this was unexpected or otherwise faster than expected, which really doesn't seem to be the case, so yawn. I suppose it does open a platform for people to yell catastrophe, denier and other none sense back and forth though, so there is that.
Pretty soon we'll finish rooting out those damn NAZIs from their secret base in New Swabia. Admiral Byrd, thou art vindicated!
The post accepted by Slashdot cites European Space Agency's satellite as evidence of ice-loss.
And earlier submission citing NASA's satellites leading to the opposite conclusion was not accepted. Kind a strange for a normally unabashedly US-centric Slashdot to so openly favour European satellite-data over American — makes one suspect a certain pre-existing bias...
I don't see any substantial changes here, do you?
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This sounds more like the work of a master villain than regular global warming!
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
I stopped reading at "Climate models show..."
300 cubic kilometers of ice is nothing compared to the volume of the ocean, it is no different than a bucketfull.
Meanwhile antarctic ice is increasing overall.
Ah, ad-hominems, they prove everything!
If I really had been, you would've included those link-pairs I asked for — for everyone's benefit... In fact, you would, likely, have linked to the post refuting me on this matter in your signature! But you can't, because it was never done. So far two people tries to answer my challenge and both failed.
Here is another, just FYI.
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I'll put it back. Didn't think anyone was using it.
I wonder if China has taken into account the sea-level rise that is likely forthcoming on all those little islands they're building in the South China Sea ?
Fast forward to 2020 when China converts said islands into a submarine base . . . lol
Newsweek does not a scientific claim make.
No matter how many times you try to cite it as such.
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Ah, ad-hominems, they prove everything!
No, it's ad-homenim if he says "Mi is an ignorant bigot and therefore his arguments are invalid". otherwise it's just an insult.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
You don't seem to understand what "ad hominem" means, even though you linked to a good description of it. You are not very good at teaching yourself, it seems. That would go a long way to explaining why you can be so incredibly wrong about so many things, yet seem to think you are right, even when the evidence is dangled in front of your face.
I have been trying to understand the true scale of the 300 cubic kilometers in lost ice. According to USGS.gov total planet water is 1,386,000,000 cubic kilometers. That makes ice loss about 0.0000216% of the total water. Based on total water surface area of 361,132,000 square kilometers (eoearth.org), 300 cubic kilometers works out to 0.831 mm - about 0.5% of the global rise of 8 inches since 1880 (globalchange.gov).
No doubt that this is a very BIG topic.
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It's amazing how articles written by the climate change proponents often fail to include important facts like the volcanic activity underneath Antarctica melting the glaciers: http://www.livescience.com/46194-volcanoes-melt-antarctic-glaciers.html/
The mere presence of a 3000m thick ice cap, which is the accumulation equilibrium thickness of continental ice proves this. You can stack ice any higher at a temperature of -30. QED
People like you LOVE to point fingers at America as being the main one here causing this.
1) back in 1992 when we found out about this, Europe's yearly total emissions were actually MORE than America's and had been for a LONG TIME. Europe's gas tax is what brought down Europe's emissions, not the poltics.
2) During the time of W, America did NOT cut back, however, for the last 6 years, we have cut back because of 3 reasons:
a) cheap nat gas here, combined with cheap wind. Both of these are much cheaper to do than coal.
b) W delayed regulations on mercury until 2017. Now it is taking effect and many coal plants have shut down, with more to come.
c) O's regulations are taking hold and is preventing future coal plants, as well as some nat gas plants, and leading towards more AE, along with nukes.
3) America's emission are today BELOW 15%, and dropping. China's emission are estimated at around 33% of global emissions, rising, and that is without data from OCO2.
4) OCO2's emissions PROVE that China's emissions are much higher than anybody elses.
5) Not only is China's yearly emissions double of America's, but as of THIS YEAR, their TOTALED emission from 1850, is greater than America's.
6) And in terms of total emission for the last millennium, China's is greaters than Europes, but both are MUCH MUCH greater's than all of the America's COMBINED.
Yet, idiots like you will focus on 1 nation, rather than focusing on the nation that accounts for more than 40% (OCO2's date is going to prove that China has lied about their real emissions), or the fact that Europe's total emissions is much much higher than America.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Or by my math, a rise in sea levels of 800 microns
Surely our sea defenses will be overwhelmed.
Please ignore the big red splotch from the volcano, but we're not going to tell you which one that is.
Only morons like you claim "There was not supposed to be an ice cap by 2014". And only then to claim someone else said it.
It's a fucking lie, you shithead. Only other shitheads who want to believe it too will believe that load of crap.
Oh, and wasn't it supposed by you deniers' scientists that we'd be back to the 1956 average by 2006?
That one IS true.
this proves a lot though, from your own post history: http://slashdot.org/submission...
i personally have debunked your bullshit dozens of times, as has dave420, ikanreed, dywolf, and others.
you are a shill and a troll, and a bigot. about the only person who believe your crap is Jane Q public, who frankly, is probably you, given how often you repeat each other.
If you've been looking at this for a while you know the antarctic ice mass grows in the middle and cleaves around the edges. The antarctic mass has been growing steadily for 45 years and has never been bigger than now.
How and why it's growing so much in a supposed "warming" world I leave to your imagination although keep in mind a new paper shows the rate of warming in the 20th century is the same rate as the previous 80 centuries.
Refs:
http://www.nasa.gov/content/go...
http://multi-science.atypon.co...
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They'll BOTH send 1 hell of a shock into your system! E.G. - U.S. Naval Map = http://www.phibetaiota.net/wp-... done by iirc, a military core of engineers & scientists' studies... & they said it was INEVITABLE.
AND
Edgar Cayce Map of US Future by Prophecy = http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dFRE...
* The late Mr. Cayce's QUITE a read in & of itself about himself - I truly HIGHLY recommend it...
APK
P.S.=> They did ME @ least - it is SPOOKY shit, & eerily more than "coincidentally so" in fact... apk