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Microsoft Reportedly May Acquire BlackBerry

New submitter techtsp writes: Microsoft is just one one of many companies reportedly looking to get a bigger piece of the enterprise mobile market by buying BlackBerry. Reports claim that Chinese firms including Huawei, Lenovo and Xiaomi are also interested in picking up BlackBerry following the company's recent return to profitability. This report comes on the heels of BlackBerry announcing it is cutting jobs across its global business units in an attempt to consolidate its software, hardware and applications business.

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  1. This one will be easier by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This one will be easier, Microsoft won't have to plant a trojan CEO to annihilate the company's market share first.

    1. Re:This one will be easier by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Microsoft won't have to plant a trojan CEO
      Who knows. Maybe they did.

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    2. Re:This one will be easier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      nokia was already dead when he joined them. Not saying he did them any good, but Nokia were going down with or without him.

    3. Re: This one will be easier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nokia was selling more smartphones than Apple and Samsung put together when Elop came aboard.

    4. Re:This one will be easier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because msft is teh evil

    5. Re: This one will be easier by kamapuaa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope. Elop came on board at at the time when Android has just recently surpassed Symbian, and when iPhone was dominant in the category of expensive smart phones. Plus, Symbian sucked too hard to really be called a proper smartphone.

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    6. Re:This one will be easier by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Funny

      At least it might make for a nice slogan: Microsoft, where phone companies go to die!

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    7. Re:This one will be easier by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      I think this may be release 2.0 of the Microsoft-aided business plan. It used to be:

      1. Found startup doing something Microsoft doesn't do.
      2. Wait to be bought out by Microsoft.
      3. Profit!

      Now it's:

      1. Wait till your cellphone company is in its death throes.
      2. Wait to be bought... well, you know the rest.

      If you work for a cellphone vendor I guess you know it's time to dust off your resume when you hear rumours that you're being bought by Microsoft.

    8. Re: This one will be easier by aliquis · · Score: 1

      But Nokia didn't only sell smartphones or even mostly smartphones.

      They sold future-phones and dumb-phones too.

      So you may both be correct.

      That they still sold a bunch of phones though shitty ones which couldn't compete in the premium market doesn't really matter all that much.

    9. Re:This one will be easier by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The Nokia stock is up above where it was than the Windows phone deal was announced.

      Which also was a pretty weird reaction even though it would be in line with what I felt about the ideas before-hand but considering analysts / at least some people had said that was what they should do and then it tanked anyway =P

      Anyway. Stock price recovered. And now they don't make phones.

    10. Re:This one will be easier by Stormwatch · · Score: 2

      And now they don't make phones.

      But they do make a high-end Android tablet, and an unique Android launcher. Maybe this does not sound like much, but it is widely speculated that they will make Android phones in 2016. They are just waiting for the non-compete clause of their deal with the devil to run out.

      And it would be a wise move, I believe. The Nokia brand is still incredibly strong in developing countries; it was only Windows Phone that poisoned their sales.

    11. Re: This one will be easier by Celarent+Darii · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually no. Elop came in 2011, when Nokia was still selling more phones than Samsung and Apple. However *Android* had just begun to have majority of marketshare.

      http://25labs.com/a-quarter-of...

      During his tenure Nokia's marketshare went from 38% to 3% (yes, that is right, 3 percent) source..

      Elop was a disaster and got paid a 18.8 million dollar bonus on his departure from Nokia.

    12. Re: This one will be easier by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      the year elop came onboard was the best selling year for the symbian smartphones.

      though, if they had kept the same middle layers they would still have been fucked - elop or not. elop accelerated things considerably though, by announcing windows phones when they were selling symbian phones by the boatloads(EXCEPT in USA. a market that traditionally was a niche market for Nokia really and rightfully so). for some reason the board was hell bent on conquering the low profit shitty carrier ran smartphone market of the USA and were willing to put the company under a bus for it. why? who the fuck knows. they probably were jealous that they were not on american magazines as much as motorola, despite having buried motorolas business 3 times already globally.

      like, if Elop had been competent he could have saved the company and moved to android or whatever. really just last year nokia DID release android phones and they sold pretty well in markets where they were sold(elop refused to sell them in NA or EURO regions, Nokia X, it was a sub 100$ series of android smartphones and consequently sold well).

      also, nokia fudged stats by moving phones between smart and feature categories pretty much yearly, but that's besides the point. nokia gave you ssh, irc and web browsing on a 200$ phone like 6 years before apple gave it to you on a 600$ phone. c++ apps baby.

      there were other long running fuckups at nokia along the way as well almost _all_ which could be attributed to middle managers subcontracting&giving perks to outside companies which said middle managers then used as golden parachute jobs when exiting Nokia(and most fucked up that part as well).. also they had about 7000 too many people working on the symbian phones... ultimately it's the upper leaderships fault for not looking what the officers were doing.

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    13. Re:This one will be easier by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Are you sure you're not looking at the other Nokia - the part that M$ didn't buy?

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    14. Re:This one will be easier by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I look at the Nokia which is Nokia.
      Not what is now Microsoft.
      I talk about Nokia not Microsoft.

      The fact is that Windows phone and number of phones manufactured or not Nokia according to the market is worth about the same. That the phone business has been sold of is irrelevant. The price for that include what it contained and was.

      Finns who held the stock through this time is likely about or better of by now (whatever you measure before it was announced or after matters.)
      Of course having changed to the market in general would still had been a better deal though.

      So has it been a success or failure? I don't know. I don't know what would have happened otherwise. Guess I'd say no. But it at least haven't been a catastrophe because Nokia hasn't lost value since it happened (it has relevative the total market value of the whole stock market.)

    15. Re: This one will be easier by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I post shit on the Internet the whole time.

      My brain isn't used all that much and English isn't my native language so occasionally my mind and fingers don't type the same thing.

  2. Re:They should rebrand it by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like "Crashberry"

  3. Article is likely fake by billDCat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the author's bio: "He is having immense interest in psychology, human behavior and mind hacks."

    Given that as well as the bad grammar, I'm pretty sure this is made up to get a reaction.

    1. Re:Article is likely fake by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Good point.

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    2. Re:Article is likely fake by qubezz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agreed. Blackberry doesn't have to sell anything. They recently announced a 12m share buyback, which they can do because they have $2.9 billion in cash.

  4. And the new company will be called... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    BlueBerry

    1. Re:And the new company will be called... by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 2

      MicroBerry?
      BlackSoft??
      MicroBlackSoftBerry???

    2. Re:And the new company will be called... by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      It's going to be Microsoft Z3 ...

      Microsoft - Revenge of the Zune

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  5. Re:ha ha by linearZ · · Score: 2, Funny

    nice going there, ay?

    Don't you mean "eh". As in "Lets all go to Tim Hortons for hot dogs and beer after a good match of curling, eh." or "There is a mouse in this beer, eh."

    "ay" is from somewhere ootside of Canada.

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  6. As big a success as the Kin by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure this will be as big a success for Microsoft as their acquisition of Danger, Incorporated, developer of the Danger Hiptop/T-Mobile Sidekick, which led the innovative, exciting, youth-oriented Microsoft Kin. And the rest is history.

    1. Re:As big a success as the Kin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You've had 80% battery life because all you can do with the device is make phone calls, because the app store sucks.

    2. Re:As big a success as the Kin by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      You know, if they made a 4G LTE Sidekick, I'd buy it in a heart beat. I miss my old Sidekick from the day of feature phones and crappy 3G service.

      Or I'd settle for a regular high end smart phone with a god damn keyboard. I love swype but I really preferred typing on a slide out keyboard... and not one that felt odd by only having a protruding end on one side (HTC G1).

    3. Re:As big a success as the Kin by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Android is fragmenting and will probably die in the next several years.

      It's interesting to ponder what will replace it. But it's not a sport where you have to back one 'side' or the other.

  7. King Midas in reverse by xeno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm horrified, partly because I'm on the verge of buying a BB Passport. It's the best thing they've done in years, and since playing with SWMBO's (she bought one instead of a galaxy edge, after much comparison). The BB has a nice android implementation, simple hack to add the Google apps, better security and sandboxing of droid apps, and real keys with a touch surface that flows right onto the 1440x1440 touchscreen. Oh, and all that stuffy Blackberry stuff. It's a truly awesome piece of hardware. And now Redmond wants to gut 'em for their IP portfolio and security reputation?

    In the mobile market, Microsoft is like King Midas in reverse: everything they touch turns to shit.* But this isn't a rant about Microsoft, it's a worry that Blackberry -- having done the amazing job of pulling out of the total nosedive they were in -- might get stomped just as they level out, and ship something even better. What a disappointment that would be.

    *apologies to Tony Soprano

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    1. Re:King Midas in reverse by Prune · · Score: 1

      You nailed it. I wish I had mod points...

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    2. Re:King Midas in reverse by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      ... it's a worry that Blackberry -- having done the amazing job of pulling out of the total nosedive they were in ...

      Uh, what the heck are you talking about?

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    3. Re: King Midas in reverse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Pulling out of a nosedive? The company is gutted, their products aren't remotely competitive. Buy a passport, Just know it won't be supported

    4. Re:King Midas in reverse by smugfunt · · Score: 1

      King Midas in reverse: everything they touch turns to shit.*
      *apologies to Tony Soprano

      Graham Nash in1967, but since Midas lived about 3000 years ago I doubt this was the first time the notion occurred to anyone.

    5. Re:King Midas in reverse by pastafazou · · Score: 1

      Wow, way to link to some obscure student essay just to have an argument. Maybe you could've pulled the actual financials from google instead: http://press.blackberry.com/co...
      Q4 2015: positive cashflow of $76Million versus a negative cashflow of 784Million in Q4 2014
      Q4 2015: cash and investments of $3.27 billion, up $608Million from Q4 2014
      Q4 2015: earnings of $0.04 per share, versus loss of $0.08 per share in Q4 2014

      I would say the original claim of them pulling out of a nosedive would be accurate. It doesn't mean they're flying high again, but they did manage to generate some positives.

  8. Patents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    MS wants to buy the patents. The let the rest die.

  9. Microshafted to the max by deviated_prevert · · Score: 1
    Very possible considering the fact that the entire Canadian government web infrastructure and most of the Provincial ones have all become dedicated Microsoft centric infrastructures. The same thing goes for all the crown Corps like the CBC and most universities so the acquisition and dismemberment of BlackBerry at the hands of Microsoft would come as no surprise at all.

    It has been the goal of Microsoft to dominate all digital communications in the western world and as far as possible elsewhere. The acquisition, absorption and decimation of all who have stood in the way is almost complete. Acquiring and then dismantling BB makes perfect sense then making certain that there is no competition in Canada other than Google for corporate mail and communications is the icing on the cake for Redmond. Their tactics of using their OS domination position to corner the information market are obvious and very disturbing. ALL HAIL the new and open MICROSOFT! Same as the old.

    The statues of the fallen ( and some soon to die as well)

    Blackberry

    Corel (Word Perfect)

    IBM AIX, Lotus software etc and any attempt they made to network businesses with software other than windows based infrastructure

    Nokia

    HP Unix

    good ol' BSD based Hot Mail

    Netscape

    And a huge number of others who have tried to compete against Microsoft in the digital information technology market. The Scroogle campaign has not to date done much to Bing the Google thing but it is obvious that the campaign to undermine, defame and absorb them is still alive and screwing over the market place! Milo Minderbinder has nothing on Microsoft!

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    1. Re:Microshafted to the max by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Canadian government does a lot of Linux on the presentation (web) tier. I won't lie, Microsoft is all over the place but so is big iron Unix (AIX, HP-UX) and a lot of that is migrating to Linux. Some departments may be only Microsoft but the new Shared Services Canada (one IT department for all departments) uses both Linux and Microsoft. Desktop is pretty much MS all the way though with Exchange on the back end.

    2. Re:Microshafted to the max by Guppy · · Score: 1

      The Scroogle campaign has not to date done much to Bing the Google thing but it is obvious that the campaign to undermine, defame and absorb them is still alive and screwing over the market place! Milo Minderbinder has nothing on Microsoft!

      Microsoft has already switched tactics, recognizing the Scroogle campaign was going nowhere. Currently the main thrust to boost search is through free "Windows with Bing" devices (pairing up with Intel's anti-ARM contra-revenue strategy), and the Android-with-Microsoft ecosystem they are trying to build up through Samsung and Cyanogen.

  10. NO GOD SPARE US!!! by xystren · · Score: 1

    Don't be touching my Blackberry Microsoft!!!!

    1. Re:NO GOD SPARE US!!! by baker_tony · · Score: 1, Funny

      Agreed, I think it's exciting times ahead for Microsoft again.

    2. Re:NO GOD SPARE US!!! by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Now that Ballmer is gone, maybe we can be a little more optimistic for once, eh?

      Hey, babe, I know I used to beat you, but trust me. I've changed.

    3. Re:NO GOD SPARE US!!! by the_B0fh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People who don't understand how Microsoft has fucked over IT for the past few decades should really take the time to study some history.

    4. Re:NO GOD SPARE US!!! by fisted · · Score: 1

      I tried the Blackberry Microsoft for a while, and it isn't even so bad.

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    5. Re:NO GOD SPARE US!!! by Prune · · Score: 1

      If it was blind hatred, Windows wouldn't be my primary desktop and Visual Studio wouldn't be my primary development environment. GGP's post was funny nonetheless. By your age, you ought to have learned to be able not to take yourself too seriously.

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  11. Re: ha ha by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 1

    What about: "press eh, I'll handle this"?

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  12. Once they acquire the patents... by msobkow · · Score: 2

    Once they acquire the patents, they'll make a tablet with a keyboard and insist it's not a laptop. :P

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  13. Re:Not going to happen. by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Either that or Microsoft is sick and tired of competing with blackberry for the ass end of the smartphone market, and hopes to grow from 2.3% market share to 3.3% again.

  14. Military Use by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just a small note, the military is switching to the iPhone 6 from the BlackBerry. Most of the leadership at the very large DoD facility I work for turned in their BlackBerries a few months back for iPhones.

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    1. Re:Military Use by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Well then, I guess all the Group Commanders and the Wing King are in violation of the rules. Though I very much don't think so...

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    2. Re:Military Use by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Citation needed? This isn't Wikipedia. I just told you what's going on here . Fell free to call me a liar, but I will have to say you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

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  15. Re: ha ha by omkhar · · Score: 1

    Tim Horton's doesn't sell hotdogs you insensitive clod.

  16. Re: ha ha by linearZ · · Score: 1

    The Chuch Norris defense, eh?

    And I think the Canadian spelling is "aboot", not "about".

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  17. And Chinese want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the encription tech.

    Trust me, either way Blackberry will lose a large amount of customers almost overnight.

  18. Re:They should rebrand it by tompaulco · · Score: 2, Informative

    I like "Crashberry"

    Maybe Microsoft could make a Blackberry crash. I personally had believed that phones crashing was just a joke because my Blackberry literally never crashed or needed rebooting. Then I got an Android and found out that, yes, phones really do crash. Apparently iphones do too, from what I hear from iphone owners, however, iphones crash because it is Job's will.

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  19. Re:Not going to happen. by redwraith94 · · Score: 1

    That probably, and their BYOD management software, which surprisingly wasn't all that bad.

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  20. Re:They should rebrand it by hey! · · Score: 1

    I nominated "dingleberry".

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  21. Re:They should rebrand it by the_B0fh · · Score: 2, Informative

    I personally had believed that phones crashing was just a joke because my Blackberry literally never crashed or needed rebooting.

    Now we know you're a plant, I've had quite a few blackberries since the mid 2000s. Every single one of them have crashed to the extent where I had to remove the batteries.

  22. Re:Might as well by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft just lost the Ford account to BlackBerry. I'm more inclined to think Microsoft sees the value in BlackBerry QNX in the IoT arena. BlackBerry is positioning itself to be the middleware glue for medical, auto, automation, and a host of other fields.

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  23. A waste of money by vision33r · · Score: 1

    Instead of sinking billions into Blackberry, why not spend $500mil on making higher quality apps on the Marketplace store? I bet if they create enough high quality apps/games and then making them free it would pay much higher dividend than acquire another niche mobile device maker. Haven't they learned already that Nokia was a dying ship? The Tmobile Sidekick/Danger was another dying ship before their acquisition.

  24. Ottawa will never allow it by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

    Canada considers BlackBerry as a national Canadian treasure of sorts. It's a huge success story and has been the backbone of just an immense number of high-tech jobs. BlackBerry is a flagship company. As such, Ottawa will never allow it to be sold to outsiders like Microsoft or anyone else.

    It's just not going to happen.

    This means the value of the company is a lot less than it seems since the value can't be taken out of Canada in any meaningful way.

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    1. Re:Ottawa will never allow it by etinin · · Score: 1

      so was Nokia. Oulu, with its once pride big economy is now in tatters.

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    2. Re:Ottawa will never allow it by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      Not even sure about a bank as so many banks still use BBM. They might not like having another bank in charge of the company, though there are probably ways around that with a holding company or something.

      My feeling is some kind of Canadian consortium can come to BlackBerry's rescue Despite FairFax taking a look and walking away, I still think they could do it with Canadian money without needing foreign partners. Canadian investors are as good as any, have plenty of money to invest and they can read the tea leaves as well as any. It comes down to what they think the value is. If not FairFax, perhaps somebody else.

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    3. Re:Ottawa will never allow it by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      That's pretty sad that you need the government to defend and bail out the single Canadian success story.

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  25. No they outsold Samsung and Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Please see the graph showing the smartphone quarterly sales:
    http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia

    See that top line? Way above the others? Thats Nokia.

    You cannot rewrite history in the Internet age, Elop was a trojan horse,.

    http://www.cnet.com/news/nokias-windows-phone-bear-hug-is-choking-the-mighty-finn/

    1. Re:No they outsold Samsung and Apple by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

      I love that article. 5 seconds of Googling shows that Elop didn't actually become CEO of Nokia until the end of 2010, but for some reason the article decides to start half a year earlier, with the sales record of the previous CEO, who was forced out for poor performance. You're reading an article that's more concerned with being a hit piece than the truth.

      Another 10 seconds of Googling shows that at the beginning of 2011, Android was the top smartphone OS: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/an...

      Elop talked about all this at the beginning of his infamous "burning platform" memo.

      Realistically, how would a CEO completely tank a phone OS in like two months? Steve Jobs needed a few years at Apple before his ideas really went from concept to production.

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    2. Re:No they outsold Samsung and Apple by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      The point isn't really the timing of Elop's arrival - it's what Elop did with the situation. Going whole hog on Windows when Android was clearly the most successful alternative to iOS was pure Elop. It was a big bet with two possible outcomes:

            1. Success - in which case Nokia has a headstart on becoming just another producer of Windows phones (i.e. first mover in a replay of PC commodification). After all, if they succeeded, then Samsung and the rest would be right behind them.
            2. Failure - in which case Nokia is a cheap Microsoft acquisition.

      Either outcome could've suited Elop. Neither was particularly great for Nokia.

      The third option was to build Android phones. In that case, they'd at least be entering an arena with an established market for their products. So they'd be executing the 'success' scenario above - and competing with Samsung and the rest. On the merits of their hardware and any popular goodies they could add to their flavor of Android. And without having to develop a market singlehandedly just to get to the starting line.

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    3. Re:No they outsold Samsung and Apple by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      I own several Nokia devices, including feature phones, "future phones" and smart devices (both S60 and S^3) - but not a single Windows phone (for what it's worth, I'm also a former resident of Finland up until shortly before Elop happened).

      Irrespective of how much you may love Elop and think that Nokia was going down the tubes, are you seriously going to sit there and bitch about Nokia devices which are difficult as shit to break, hold a charge for ages and don't need to be restarted every other week and champion the shiny-shiny produced by Apple and other OEMs which offer devices up with so much crap on them that they *do* need to be restarted frequently, don't hold a charge and can be destroyed by dropping them from less than 2 metres?

      No thanks, I'll sit here with my primary device - a Nokia N8-00 which I got back in January 2011 - which kicks the ass of any other phone I've been able to find for being a phone but also working perfectly well with modern websites, a better camera than most phones on store shelves now, has an FM transmitter so I can listen to my music collection while I'm driving with controls that are easier to use than those on the car radio and even old versions of Nokia maps kick Google maps any day of the week (says my experience driving through the Appalachians a few months ago) AND it works offline AND it has useful features like a speedometer. It also has HDMI (if I so desire to use it) and DLNA (if I so desire to use it - yes, it even works with Chromecast).

      The only real complaint I have is the micro-USB connector wasn't great... but then again, nothing I haven't seen millions of Android folks complain about, either, so, bluetooth.

      So what am I missing out on? Not much. I might not be able to run Candy Crush or whatever on my device, but that's not something I care about. I have Skype and some other key apps, I have email, I have a couple of non-SMS messaging apps, I have PuTTY, I can open PDFs... I'm probably going to use this thing until they dismantle the 3G networks because it probably won't die - it's outlasted... err... 3 Androids and an iPhone (all cracked screens/fell apart) that my SO has had in roughly the same timeframe.

      So what if it's old? I don't have to put up with half the shit I would on iOS and Android. It. Just. Works.

      As for Maemo, issues such as those you are describing happen during development, but unlike certain other manufacturers, these issues did not relate to a final release, and comparing them to even old versions of Android/iOS is stupid because it suggests that Android/iOS were bug free during development. I remember versions of Android being incredible amounts of suck - 2.1 I think had an issue whereby something to do with text messaging failed entirely (found that out when I got my mother an Android phone with 2.1 on it several years ago... guess what it was replaced with!?), and it didn't stop there - 4 and 5 have all seen more than their fair share of issues relating to the exact same things you're complaining were happening during Maemo's development. Maemo could have been a great transition for Nokia were it to replace Symbian in that segment and the dumbphone OS, well... it's a dumbphone OS, probably hadn't really been touched significantly in years - what do you want?

      Disclaimer, I also have 2 Android devices - a small Samsung phone with 4.4 I think and a Nexus 7 with 5.1 IIRC. The phone is basically unusable as a phone, but it does make a decent enough WiFi hotspot for the times where I need one.

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  26. Re: ha ha by linearZ · · Score: 1

    This is an outrage! Tim Hortons must sell hot dogs! Where else would we expect red blooded Canadians to eat after a curling match?

    I'm always shocked at just how much Canada doesn't get Canadian culture.

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  27. Re:Might as well by savuporo · · Score: 1

    Microsoft sees the value in BlackBerry QNX in the IoT arena

    Then they are stark raving mad. It has zero traction and negative appeal in IoT space.

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  28. simple math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Shit + more shit = shit

  29. Typical by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    I've never read so much crap from the anti-microsoft brigade for a long time.
    I bet that all of them hadn't tried Windows phone 8 and so they feel that they can run it into the ground because it's MS.
    The phones are great. The OS is excellent and works well on low end phones too. The Windows store is better than you think and the gui and general operation is easy to use esp with One Drive. Cortana is brilliant. Hands off answers my sms-s with voice recognition.
    It all a matter of choice and preference. You like android with all that confusing muddle of updates that stuff things up? Go for it. Like your Apple phone? Then make sure you've got an iPad or Mac to go with it to take full advantage.
    Just look up the specs of the newest Lumia 640XL - all for around $300 unlocked. Manufactured in ex Nokia factories, great battery life and a whopping 5.7" screen.
    MS will win this. Give them a few years.

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    1. Re:Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You bet?
      You know what I think?
      Cortana is brilliant?

      Go fuck yourself.

    2. Re:Typical by gavron · · Score: 1

      > I've never read so much crap...

      Your illiteracy isn't something about which you should be bragging. Learn to read and then read about Microsoft and you'll read lots more crap than you ever thought existed -- all earned by Microsoft through its incompetence at software engineering.

      > I bet that all of them hadn't tried Windows phone 8

      Your wagering skills aren't something about which you should be bragging. Windows Mobile has been a scourge since 2002 when Microsoft owned the market, and lost it through sheer incompetence and bullying. Nobody's left around who would try "Windows Phone 8" or whatever Microsoft releases now because they've had 13 years to fail to corner the market -- and all they've done is demonstrate the wrong way to do things.

      > The phones are great. The OS is excellent and works well on low end phones too

      Your analytical skills aren't something about which you should be bragging. The phones -- hardware wise -- compare poorly with one and two year old Android or IOS phones. The OS is hardly stable, and the app store a joke. Yes, it works well on low-end phones because it is a low-end OS that doesn't push hardware to any limits -- fortunately -- because the hardware it runs on IS low-end phones.

      > Cortana is brilliant

      Your girlfriend in mind only. You really should look up what "brilliant" means and realize that an artificial voice recognition software can't be brilliant. Then if you decide to learn English and use an apt word like "useful" you'll find that anything with Bing as the search engine is an exercise in frustrated futility.

      > Just look up the specs of the newest Lumia 640XL

      Perhaps you should "just look up" that this is a discussion about Microsoft potentially acquiring BlackBerry, not a discussion of how much they suck, or how awful they are, or how they took Nokia down the proverbial tube. The Lumia phone is history. It just hasn't got there yet.

      E

  30. Re:Might as well by Megol · · Score: 1

    IIRC QNX can deliver a POSIX environment in ~32kiB of RAM (kernel + process manager). Why would that have a "negative appeal"?

  31. Re:This one will be funnier by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Popcorn futures are already up 5%. This is going to be fun!

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  32. NNNOOOOOOOOO !!! by swschrad · · Score: 1

    why would Microsoft double down on a dying dud? nothing there but dead weight, a black hole.

    patents are cheaper in Chapter 7.

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  33. assets are also cheaper in Chapter 7 by swschrad · · Score: 1

    wait it out, enter the auction. much smarter business.

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    1. Re:assets are also cheaper in Chapter 7 by adolf · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's always better to buy a corpse of a company after the engineers have burned their notes and thrown their desk chairs through the window on their way downtown to mortgage their car and sign up for food stamps, than to buy a company that is not yet a corpse and still has productive and creative people.

  34. Re:ha ha by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    Don't you mean "eh". As in "Lets all go to Tim Hortons for hot dogs and beer after a good match of curling, eh."

    You can't buy either hot dogs or beer at Tim Hortons.

    And pretty much nobody actually says "eh", and never has.

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  35. r.e. passport... Re:King Midas in reverse by Fubari · · Score: 1

    I'm liking my passport fwiw. Quite happy with it.
    It generates lots of "what is that?" questions. (Funniest one thus far: "A Blackberry, what, are you Canadian?")
    By the time BlackBerry is assimilated (or recovers) I will be on to a different handset.

  36. Re: ha ha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Your Canadian citizenship should be rescinded. There's gobs and gobs of people who excessively say "eh". The worst are the ones who stop their story so you acknowledge their "eh" before continuing.

    Also, my dad says it a lot more as the number of drinks in him increases.

  37. Re:ha ha by linearZ · · Score: 1

    And pretty much nobody actually says "eh", and never has.

    Yes, I know. And nobody in Canada ever liked hockey. And curling is just some sport made up for people to think Canadians have figured out how to bowl on ice. But Canada doesn't have ice either. These myths aboot Canada have all been made up to make the rest of the world think that Canadians are something other than humorless automatons. Indeed, Canadians have no sense of humor.

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  38. Re:ha ha by linearZ · · Score: 1

    If Canadians had a sense of humor, that second season of JPod would have happened....

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