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Firefox's Optional Tracking Protection Reduces Load Time For News Sites By 44%

An anonymous reader writes: Former Mozilla software engineer Monica Chew and Computer Science researcher Georgios Kontaxis recently released a paper (PDF) that examines Firefox's optional Tracking Protection feature. The duo found that with Tracking Protection enabled, the Alexa top 200 news sites saw a 67.5 percent reduction in the number of HTTP cookies set. Furthermore, performance benefits included a 44 percent median reduction in page load time and 39 percent reduction in data usage.

207 comments

  1. Nice timing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...for their own previously-announced in-house tracking feature to take the lead in dragging down website load times.

    1. Re:Nice timing... by JMJimmy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      True. I'd still like a fork that is DRM-free and doesn't advertise to me and a million other things. For those that want to enable it:

      privacy.trackingprotection.enabled = true

    2. Re: Nice timing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, there is no "in-house tracking".

    3. Re:Nice timing... by Snarky+McButtface · · Score: 0

      How did anyone impair his ability to say anything? Was he thrown in prison for what he said or his beliefs? No. He has the right to say and believe what he wants. Other people also have the same right. The right to say he is a bigot. An asshole. Unfortunately for him, bigots are not a protected class of people. So he lost his job. Because he is an asshole.

    4. Re:Nice timing... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      See, the problem is that the religious conservatives want other religious conservatives to have the privilege of being able to spout their hateful bile without any consequences. They don't want free speech, they want consequences-free speech for their own kind (but no one else).

  2. e-commerce by SumDog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked in e-commerce once. Our client had fifteen tracking pixels in the final page of the checkout process! It added a good 10 ~ 20 seconds to that page. That was on top of all the Adobe Omniture garbage.

    I refused to pulled crazy triple shifts after I the Thanksgiving break and was let go. I was so glad. It was totally not worth it and unemployment felt awesome after all that rubbish.

    Also, fuck TOMS shoes!

    1. Re: e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've come across similar junk solutions making sites extremely sluggish. What I can not understand is why aren't there a unified solution to provide tracking data to all different underlying tracking systems. I mean you could get all the data you could possibly want from one single tracking mechanism and let other solutions access the data as wanted.

    2. Re: e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It all comes down to trust. People who track you don't trust each other. They'd fake data, so why wouldn't you? They want first hand to the real data, before it's faked and pumped and fluffed to look like it actually is beneficial. And they don't trust the site provider to be honest either, so they can't have the tracking data stored with the site itself.

    3. Re: e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You haven't seen anything until you visit minecraftforum. Wow! Those lunatics load every imaginable tracking site available and than Flash crap on top of that.

    4. Re:e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last page, as in the page after the customer has already paid? Who gives a shit how fast it loads?

    5. Re: e-commerce by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I can not understand is why aren't there a unified solution to provide tracking data to all different underlying tracking systems.

      Because there's more than one set of greedy bastards, each of which have their own branding, and feel they deserve a slice of the pie -- because they all have executives who need hooker and yacht money.

      Are you expecting greedy advertisers to pool their resources so users only see a single greedy embedded in their web pages? Or that somehow having the big giant clearinghouse of everyone's data would somehow be good?

      I have an alternative, block the shit out of all of them, and then nuke the offices of tracking and advertising companies from orbit.

      Just because a bunch of advertising agencies thinks they own the internet doesn't mean we should play along. In fact, we should try to weed them out entirely.

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    6. Re:e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The customer. Especially if they're in a rush.

    7. Re:e-commerce by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1
      I think GP meant, "why should the e-commerce site care, after the customer has already left his money on the table".

      The correct answer would be "the repeat customer", but maybe those sites that are pulling such stunts deliver such shitty service or merchandise that it would be highly unlikely that a customer ever came back, even if the checkout page loaded faster...

    8. Re: e-commerce by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Supposedly there is one 'Kinder, friendlier' advertiser who we are supposed to fellate eagerly.

    9. Re:e-commerce by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      The last page, as in the page after the customer has already paid? Who gives a shit how fast it loads?

      Yeah, who gives a crap about the user experience of those who have demonstrated they are paying customers?

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    10. Re: e-commerce by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      Google does. Otherwise you get banished to the depths of PageRank.

    11. Re: e-commerce by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      I installed little snitch on a fresh install of Yosemite on my Mac recently. When I started up Firefox and went surfing I had to spend almost 20 minutes blocking tracing sites so I never see the bitches. I do it at that level instead of trusting Firefox to do it. I was amazed how much bullshit is out there.

    12. Re:e-commerce by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      That was on top of all the Adobe Omniture garbage.

      That makes an awfully expensive garbage!

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    13. Re:e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't use pixels, you total fucking moron. People don't use pixels any longer.

    14. Re: e-commerce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear you. But I was thinking this more from the perspective of the businessess utilizing the tracking mechanisms themselves. There's clear benefits in unifying a tracking API for all various underlying systems to use, much in the way BizTalk unifies cross-system communications. The tracking companies can only sell what there is a market for and I don't understand how such markets have not yet evolved.

    15. Re:e-commerce by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are you still unemployed? :P

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  3. Nice way to show how bad sites are... by gigaherz · · Score: 1

    ...but I already have Ghostery for that, so it doesn't offset the news about ads in the default home page.

  4. How to block Google analytics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I block Google analytics and its brethren using the hosts file?

    I (think) I have Facebook blocked, but Google manages to evade simply domain blocks somehow and Adblock plus is simply a front company that sells the right to place adverts in front of its users.

    http://www.neowin.net/news/report-google-paying-adblock-plus-to-not-block-google039s-ads

    So I have a healthy suspicion of adblocking apps that send your surfing data to their company.

    1. Re:How to block Google analytics by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes. I don't believe that you can block ALL Google stuff, but you can indeed block the GA servers. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/ho... I'm to lazy to read all through it again, but I'm pretty sure that one blocks Google Analytics. If I'm wrong, you should be able to find one that does with a simple search.

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    2. Re:How to block Google analytics by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Blocking google-analytics.com doesn't work ?
      Anyways, If you want to block all ads with ABP, just uncheck the very obvious checkbox in the settings, or use an alternative blocker like uBlock.
      If you are paranoid about the blocker sending data to their company, know that ABP is an opensource project, so is uBlock, you are free to analyse the code and build it yourself. But considering the controversy about ABP, I guess serveral people alredy did this.

    3. Re: How to block Google analytics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Switch to Pale Moon and use Ad Block Latitude

    4. Re:How to block Google analytics by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      and Adblock plus is simply a front company that sells the right to place adverts in front of its users.

      Not a problem; don't use ABP.

      Use uBlock instead. As a bonus, it's much much faster and uses far less memory.

    5. Re:How to block Google analytics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what's good, dude? Adblock is opensource. You don't like their whitelist (which you can turn off btw), you just comment out the offensive part in the source files. That's all folks.

  5. Think that's impressive? by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Add adblocking on top of that and you will double those numbers.

    The advertising industry is ruining the internet.

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    1. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in China and I'm very well aware of it. Scripts that load scripts cause sites to not load at all due to latency. And that's even if those scripts are loaded from sites that I can visit.

      I've seen packets take multiple seconds to reach America some days.

      It's amazing how incompetent and lazy Web developers have become.

    2. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lack of forward thinking ruined the internet. The utopia is dead, capitalism will win out. There was no monitization strategy envisioned during the birth of the internet, and therefor it's not surprising the monitization strategy which companies are using offends the technologists sensibilities, since there was never to be one in the first place.

      Until you accept it and start acting like the greedy, commercial actor which you are, someone with better hair and a flashier car will always promise you what you want to hear and rake in money from your efforts.

    3. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by "ruining" you mean "allowing it to exist", you're right.

      I hate ads as much as anyone else, but let's not pretend we'd have much if any of our favorite websites if they weren't subsidized by ads.

    4. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      The advertising industry is ruining the internet.

      I challenge you to describe a plausible alternative.

    5. Re:Think that's impressive? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, the public has 'spoken', and the Internet shall be ad-supported and otherwise 'free'. That doesn't mean that internet advertising has to be as intrusive as possible - just because it can be. Certain kinds of internet advertising is probably effective enough without tracking your every move. Even Google was pretty good - and financially successful - when it simply tracked your search queries and used aggregated data to produce good search results. The results may be marginally 'better' (i.e. personalized) today, but that's got plusses and minues. In any case, I wonder how much more revenue personalized searches generate for Google than before. You still have to click on the ads for them to make their money...

      As far as other sites go, I imagine they're all sitting on huge troves of tracking data that they can't begin to figure out a use for - except maybe to sell it to somebody else which Google itself does not do, btw.

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    6. Re:Think that's impressive? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

      No advertising.

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    7. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead, websites will be funded by puppy dogs, rainbows, and well-wishes!

    8. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was there from it's beginnings. Bluntly put, it was idiots that decided they could "monetize" the Internet.

      Only the people peddling the advertising "time" are really making any money on this. The other people? Not so much so.
      And, while I'm okay on that if it's like in a magazine, TV, or Radio, on the Internet, it's NOTHING like it.

      It adds to my bits I'm being billed against. If I'm on my mobile device, I get billed for that. If I'm on the road, using a mobile provider hotspot, I get billed for that.

      Not acceptable. And saying "plausible alternative" means you agrree with them- which makes you one of the idiots too.

    9. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I asked for plausible alternatives. Please explain how "no advertising" is such.

    10. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All you need for a "graphic" track is to watch all the URL's zooming (or dawdling in more extreme slowdowns) by in the status bar at the bottom of a page (if enabled) as it loads. I often see dozens, and when it lingers on any unresponsive ones, the page of course does not progress with loading. I have noticed this for a long time, and add any of the notable dawdlers that I see frequently to my /etc/hosts blackhole list (0.0.0.0 instead of usually suggested 127.0.0.1 does seem quicker). Just check your browser's page info links tab for candidates to block that show up on a lot of web sites' pages.

    11. Re:Think that's impressive? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No what will happen is shitty sites full of fluff and click bait will go out of business. Nothing of value will be lost.

    12. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same as now, but with 90% less ads, 90% less volume of content, 90% more unique content (because you'll find new stuff instead of same old same old pushed by clickbaits.).

    13. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      For one thing there will be far less junk sites like ehow who thrive off of SEO spam for ad clicks. We'd also get rid of all the other shitty clickbait sites like Gawker and Buzzfeed. Finally it would bankrupt Facebook and put Fuckerberg in the poor house. Seems well worth it to me.

    14. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe him. Ergo: plausible.

    15. Re:Think that's impressive? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Apparently, it means, 'no salary for jones_supa' by the look of it. I agree, that isn't plausible. For you.

      The Internet historically has hated fucking spammers and advertisers. That hasn't changed. And the tools are in need of continual sharpening.

    16. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem isn't ads, it's the invasion of privacy and breaking the net.

    17. Re:Think that's impressive? by JamesTRexx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Static advertising.

      No more audiovisually distracting intrusive advertising burning bandwidth and CPU to peddle things you've already bought or looked into.
      Newspapers and magazines had people managing advertising themselves, picking relevant products and the way it's presented. Why can't websites manage it like they do and take responsibility for it?

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    18. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      You have to look it from the perspective of the content creator as well.

    19. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily cut them all out, but could they not be consolidated down to a few links to load instead of dozens, or more, per page load?? I see multiple links for this aritcle's page to several sites such as for perfectmarket.com, fsdn.com, and cdn.rpxnow.com.

      There is also the issue of tracking, per se, not just ads on a particular page. Facebook is frequently noted for a high "creepiness score" in that regard.

      RO

    20. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Writing your drivel on Slashdot is not content creation.

    21. Re:Think that's impressive? by tepples · · Score: 1

      True, advertising is not the only way to fund the creation of articles and operation of a website. It's just that

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    22. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're not offering me a way to pay for a tracking and ad free experience then it is you are not providing me with a viable alternative. If your content is so shitty that no one wants to pay for it? Too bad. Get better.

      People will pay for content that doesn't suck. Netflix is doing fine without ads (better than Hulu, imagine that).

      Content providers that say there's exactly one way to do things are both suffering from confirmation bias and an extreme lack of imagination. Lack of imagination... in the content industry. WOW.

      Link your content. I'll tell you if it's shit as a free service. I bet it's 90% headline and 0% content.

    23. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Of course not, but someone had to create Slashdot.

    24. Re:Think that's impressive? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean that I personally am a content creator.

    25. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now I understand your expertise on the subject matter. Thanks.

    26. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The advertising industry is ruining the internet.

      I challenge you to describe a plausible alternative.

      add cheaper hosting + FOSS to the list

    27. Re:Think that's impressive? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1

      If they had compelling content people would pay for it directly. Sites like ehow and Buzzfeed create crap but can stay around due to clickbait spam.

    28. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let the sites that can't survive without ad-infestation go out of a business.

    29. Re: Think that's impressive? by pspahn · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's amazing how incompetent and lazy Web developers have become.

      As a developer myself, I feel the need to stand up on this statement.

      I have built numerous e-commerce sites. Every one of them performed well and care was taken to reduce HTTP requests, optimize images, minify assets, etc. I do this because it's the right thing to do and I take pride in building something that works well.

      Then the site gets turned over to the client and gets managed by SEO and marketing people. I will usually check the site out or show it to a friend or something a month or two after launch. I am disgusted (but never surprised) to see the slow page loads and poor response times that are a result of all the additional tracking garbage they stuff in the header.

      I see a lot of people blame web developers for sites that perform poorly. Every single time I have had a hand in building one of those sites, the developer was never the person responsible for that stuff.

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    30. Re: Think that's impressive? by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      Its called offering the customer something in exchange for money. Companies like GE and Exxon Mobil have been using this strategy with moderate success.

    31. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What makes you think that you're the rule, and not the exception?

    32. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the GP posted could apply to you personally, or could equally apply to the general internet site. We vs the "royal we," as it were.

    33. Re: Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who else would we blame? Web developers write the tools and I doubt most have the option of turning down the money because the market is flooded with developers.

      I regularly have trouble with sites because the developers screwed up.

    34. Re:Think that's impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they are, and it sucks that over 30% of my bandwidth bill cannot be claimed back against the marketeers.

    35. Re:Think that's impressive? by Larry_Dillon · · Score: 1

      I don't think the public has spoken. They're just not aware what's going on and the potential harm. Would people accept it if they had to click an "OK" button telling them they were being tracked each time a site tracked them? I don't think so. Sites added the tracking with very little public discussion or disclosure.

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  6. Lets all chant together by shitzu · · Score: 1

    RequestPolicy

    1. Re:Lets all chant together by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

      + NoScript + Ghostery + AdBlock + Block 3rd Party Cookies

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      The internet is full of shit which needs to be ruthlessly blocked.

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    2. Re:Lets all chant together by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      + NoScript + Ghostery + AdBlock + Block 3rd Party Cookies

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      The internet is full of shit which needs to be ruthlessly blocked.

      Safersurfing for persistent cookies not stored in the usual places.

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    3. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uBlock instead of Adblock. It is faster and uses less memory.

    4. Re:Lets all chant together by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      Only after a page doesn't work in a text browser.

      I use links2 as my main browser and only use Iceweasel+NoScript if the page is interesting enough to read. Haven't used an adblocker in a while since NoScript seems to work well enough for me.

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    5. Re:Lets all chant together by ATMAvatar · · Score: 1

      Don't forget EFF's Privacy Badger.

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    6. Re:Lets all chant together by LazyBoot · · Score: 1

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      Just FYI ScriptSafe is abandoned...

    7. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > + NoScript + Ghostery + AdBlock + Block 3rd Party Cookies

      BetterPrivacy for super-cookies

      Self-Destructing Cookies for sites that require cookies to work but also track you across visits

    8. Re:Lets all chant together by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      hmm... that will not get you very far. You don't seem to deal with LSO cookies at all, adblock is now as closed source as it gets (unlike adblock plus) and you are not addressing fingerprinting either (extensions like rubberglove, privoxy/proxomitron and disabling font enumeration in firefox).

      soon enough there will be a university degree in safe/private browsing.

    9. Re:Lets all chant together by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Ghostery + Adblock are redundant with RequestPolicy + Noscript. And I prefer Self-Destructing Cookies, since it can get rid of all sorts of persistent storage objects and doesn't tend to break things. It deletes all cookies set while on a tab when you close the tab, unless you whitelist them.

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    10. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      uBlock Origin.

      The author of uBlock threw a tantrum and forked his own code to uBlock Origin. The original uBlock is now largely unmaintained.

    11. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For Chrome: ScriptSafe + Chostery + HTTP SwitchBoard + Disconnect

      I believe the author of HTTP Switchboard has discontinued support and switched to uMatrix.

    12. Re:Lets all chant together by firewrought · · Score: 3, Informative

      And under Firefox, don't forget to tweak your about:config:

      dom.storage.enabled = false # DOM storage is cookies reborn
      plugins.enumerable_names = "" # Useful for fingerprinting
      network.http.sendRefererHeader = 0
      network.http.sendSecureXSiteReferrer = false
      geo.enabled=false
      general.useragent.override = "???" # May not be worth it.

      If you don't need them, WebGL and WebRTC are just big security holes:

      webgl.disabled=true
      media.peerconnection.enabled=false

      Not privacy-related, but...

      network.prefetch-next = false # Don't load pages without asking (esp. at work)
      network.http.pipelining = true # Improve load performance.

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    13. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uMatrix is much better than RequestPolicy and NoScript. Add uBlock Origin for granular adblocking and you don't need any other blocking addons. uBlock Origin also has script/frame/image blocking if you enable its advanced mode. These are available for Firefox as well as Chrome.

    14. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, HTTP Switchboard has been split into uBlock Origin and uMatrix.

    15. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      plus Policeman

    16. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      ghostery, but not adblock.

      adblock: adblock privacy gives you ghostery
      noscript: gives you a lot of ghostery

      adblock blocks ads, even from the same host. And noscript can allow scripts per domain, while adblock (privacy) blocks some depending on the path.

    17. Re:Lets all chant together by allo · · Score: 1

      for useragent.override use a popular one, not a random one. you may be the only person with "???" as UA, but not the only one with " Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0"

    18. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to mention uBlock Origin for Chrome, it is 10x faster than adblock. Also, adblock and ghostery are being paid to let some ads through. Better to use ublock origin/disconnect. Note: Don't grab "ublock" it's someone trying to rip off ublock origin.

      I guess technically you didn't fail to mention ublock because HTTP Switchboard has been discontinued and apparently ublock was spun off of that project. Thanks for telling me about it because I didn't know about umatrix.

      Here's an interesting article from http switchboard on how to set up umatrix. I found it useful. I think I would definitely not recommend it for the average user, because it does break a lot of websites and they'll be confused as to why and how to fix it.

      https://github.com/gorhill/httpswitchboard/wiki/How-to-use-HTTP-Switchboard:-Two-opposing-views

      ublock on the other hand just blocks ads like adblock and has never caused any problems for me. It is quiet and just does its job.

    19. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some websites might not like the lack of Referer, it's better to use a plugin where you can whitelist them

    20. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Ghostery + Adblock are redundant with RequestPolicy + Noscript

      I notice no determinal effects running all them.

      And some sites I end up just turning off requestpolicy because there are like 30 different domains and I can't figure out which combination are necessary and which are just crap. But ghostery and adblock are still there to pick up some of the slack when requestpolicy is disabled.

      One such site is homedepot - I always look up the aisle and shelf locations of the stuff on my shopping list beforehand. But that function doesn't work with requestpolicy, I've spent hours trying one-by-one and combinations thereof to disable/enable specific cross-site includes and no dice. So I just gave up and let adblock and ghostery handle that site.

    21. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use the standard agent string for MSIE 10 on Windows because that seems to be the one with the largest marketshare by a big margin.

      Unfortunately slashdot's javascript fails on that, so I can't do that dohickey that changes the filter level on comments.

    22. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Request Policy is awesome, but Firefox 38 broke it and apparently it's not maintained anymore.
      Would you know of an alternative?

    23. Re:Lets all chant together by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Request Policy has been broken by Firefox 38, and apparently it's unmaintained so it won't be fixed...

      Would you know any alternative?

      (I thought that I posted this question already a few days ago but I can't find it, even at -1)

  7. Faster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow slashdot now loads faster!

  8. Bullshit ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm going to call complete bullshit on this.

    Because disabling 3rd party cookies and setting cookies to "ask before setting" will probably also have the same effect, because once you hit a site you've said "no" to, you never get asked again.

    This is saying "our awesome tracking protection is faster than promiscuously accepting all cookies and running scripts".

    The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts.

    Their tracking protection isn't magic, it's just blocking crap. Some of which can be blocked by default anyway.

    And it's a setting which Mozilla backed down on enabling by default because advertisers whined at them.

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    1. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not bullshit, it's an ex-Mozilla employee discussing just how bad the situation is. Turns out Mozilla don't have the clout to fix the situation without resorting to compromises we wish they wouldn't have to, but it's not bullshit. Just try it out yourself.

    2. Re:Bullshit ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      It's not bullshit, it's an ex-Mozilla employee discussing just how bad the situation is.

      Fair enough, but TFS makes it sound like this is a speedup due to how super awesome the tracking protection is, as opposed to the default crap of letting everything from a zillion other domains run by default.

      Run everything from every cross domain crap and advertising the crux of the problem here, because ads and other tracking crap have fucked up the internet to the point that dozens of other domains get to know every page you visit.

      Those entities, and the people whose websites use them, should not be rewarded for putting shit all over the internet.

      --
      Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    3. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand. How is this any different from how awesome NoScript or Disconnect or AdBlock/uBlock are? Sure, they should HAVE to exist, but they do. And because of that, it's awesome that someone is trying to figure out a way to fix the situation. It's easy for us to complain about it, but Mozilla (for all the hate they get) are actually trying to find a compromise that will keep the web moving in a better direction. Ideals clearly aren't getting us there. Moreover, someone generating buzz about the terrible state of things is a good thing. Every little bit of noise helps, and may pressure people into giving up on this horrible tracking network approach, especially if Mozilla can show that ads are still viable without it. That isn't rewarding those entities, it's shaming them.

    4. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Perhaps. But I look at it this way. The people willing to not turn the settings on are paying the bills. I would tell everyone about it. If no script did not pretty much screw up ~10% of the time. Even this site touches no less that 5. You get on some sites and there are 50+ domains it touches. You have no idea which one is actually serving product or advert or tracking.

      I have seen similar numbers in my testing. Throw in a proxy server and some DNS caching and the numbers half again.

      I went from about 2-3 mins for 20 pages to load to under 30 seconds with adverts disabled. ~20 with caching. Another 5 or so by not using my ISPs DNS server.

    5. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After setting this up (about:config, search privacy.trackingprotection.enabled), many sites stop showing ads. Obviously, with the fat cut down the meat loads much faster.

    6. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure you're smelling your shirt.

      Saying FF is somehow in the wrong for bothering to cater their UI/UX to non-tech users, that frankly couldn't tell you the difference between a cookie and a jpeg, pretty much washes you in whatever BS you're whining about.

    7. Re:Bullshit ... by tburkhol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts

      When Newegg includes a 1px image from criteo.com, criteo is no longer a 3rd party. When newegg directs "promotions.newegg.com" to edgesuite.net, then edgesuite is no longer a 3rd party (and in a way that is much more difficult for even clever ad blocking software to detect).

      The point they're trying to raise here is that including all of those web-bugs and their associated cookies does impact the visitor experience, and FF has a system to reduce it. You can take this from the user perspective: here's an easy way to speed up the web, without having to figure out which of the adblocking plug ins are really legit. You can look at it from the host perspective: if web bugs make your whole web site feel much slower, then maybe the analytics aren't worth it. There are a lot of people who just don't think about why their internet is slow. Every time someone stands up and says it takes longer to load all the ads on most pages than the actual content, a few more people will understand the cost of "free' web pages.

    8. Re:Bullshit ... by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The slowness comes from letting 3rd party tracking sites set cookies and run scripts ... which modern browsers seem to treat as the default, or letting any crap set cookies or run scripts.

      Their tracking protection isn't magic, it's just blocking crap. Some of which can be blocked by default anyway.

      Well, the reason it's faster is you avoid making extraneous HTTP connections which can be slow by slow servers.

      A lot of ad and tracking servers stall out the browser, and because everyone uses them, they're overloaded. The browser might have everything it needs to render the page, but all the tracking stuff stalls out the renderer so you get only the headers. You can easily increase the speed if you tell the renderer to ignore those tracking objects and the network stack to not retrieve that content.

      Slow ad servers are the bane of the internet - why ad companies don't purchase more bandwidth and capacity is beyond me.

    9. Re:Bullshit ... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Another 5 or so by not using my ISPs DNS server.

      And if you're using GoogleDNS or OpenDNS, you're back on the tracking bandwagon.

      And maybe this is the way it should be... have the DNS providers be the tracking clearinghouse, and serve only relevant ads in a way that doesn't get in the way of the actual site content.

      The fact that Apple sticks "Safari Reader" in the Safari browser says something about how bad things have got... not only do you end up loading a bunch of stuff you don't actually want that takes time/bandwidth, the end result is often bad enough that your browser needs to reformat it for you to be able to read it comfortably.

    10. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And on another vector of bullshit, load times of WHAT? Most tracking tags should load POST load, meaning there is NO FUCKING WAY, it can affect the rendering of the page to the degree claimed. A couple of messed up sites that don't follow the standard are not examples worth considering. Most of the time too many tags are much more likely to affect each other, not the site. and PIXELS? Give me a fucking break, they are not pixels, they are image objects which also, yeah, don't block anything like an actual v 1995 pixel would.

    11. Re:Bullshit ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not bullshit at all. I once did a Cookie RFC compliance survey on the top 10,000 Alexa sites and wrote a Perl script to log their complete HTTP responses to a single root page request (i.e.: GET / HTTP/1.1). I was disappointed to see that the majority of them were still using Set-Cookie headers (badly) formatted as per the original Netscape Cookie Proposal circa 1994, not even compliant with any RFC known to man. I was also disappointed to see how many Set-Cookie headers were sent out by sites just in response to a request... one site issued a staggering 66 cookies! The amount of Set-Cookie data being sent out by the majority of these sites dwarfs the size of the actual HTML payload that they're attached to. All those cookies are going to get sent regardless of whatever browser settings you might have. And you still have to add all of the crap and cookies attached to images and advertising referenced from the HTML and JavaScript.

  9. One curiosity for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, blocking all the cookies, trackers, ads, etc can speed things up. Nice to see it actually quantified.

    Though out of curiosity, do multiple cookie blockers, anti-trackers, ad blockers slow thing back down? ie - (if) I'm running Privacy Badger, Ghostery, Random Agent Spoofer, Ad Block Plus, Better Privacy, Self-Destructing Cookies, etc, obviously there is some overlap between these add-ons. Do all these overlaps slow things down and if so, is there an 'optimal' or 'minimal' set of add-ons which covers all key privacy issues?

    1. Re:One curiosity for me... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you're running to much stuff. Each of them requires CPU cycles. Drop Ad Block Plus, and install uBlock. I saw a rather dramatic drop in system resources with that alone. Keep Better Privacy, and Privacy Badger - drop Ghostery. Agent spoofer I'm not sure about - I tried it, and dropped it. Self destructing cookies? Why bother? Firefox has a session cookie setting, just use that.

      But, most assuredly, overlapping security precautions will slow the system down. Perhaps if you're running a state of the art octo-core with 32 gig of memory, that slowdown is unnoticeable. If you're running an ancient piece of 32-bit hardware with only a gig of memory, it may bring you to a grinding halt.

      Whatever your system, use the resources wisely.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    2. Re:One curiosity for me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self destructing cookies? Why bother? Firefox has a session cookie setting, just use that.

      Because the session cookies are kept until you close FF, and are kept even if you close the site tab, which depending of how often you do it can be a long time. These previous cookies are culled by the trackers as soon as you open the site again.

      Self destructing cookies nukes them soon after you close the tab without having to restart FF and reload all the tabs.

    3. Re:One curiosity for me... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Oh - got it. Dumb question on my part, huh? I should have figured that out.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
  10. Page performance deffinately a issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I totally agree that page performance is suffering from all the tracking and ads placed on web sites. What's even more important is how this also slows performance even more on weaker hardware such as those notebooks with Celeron and Atom based CPU's. I have not been a big fan of ad blocking extensions or limiting tracking significantly. But when you see figures like this that it is affecting performance that much. I think its understandable why this has become far more of a problem then merely a annoyance. I think web sites will have to address performance vs ads and tracking or risk losing visitors and customers due to a performance issue. People these days, don't put up with slow loading pages.

  11. Time Saving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disconnect is currently blocking Taboola, Google, Ooyala, and comScore. ScriptSafe identifies 6 domains OTHER than a.fsdn.com attempting to load scripts on this page. None of them are needed. I especially like that I can block those shitty video submission blocks from /. on the occasion a mod has a stroke and thinks anyone wants video playing at the top of the page ever.

  12. A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've already switched to Pale Moon, in part because Pale Moon loads sites much faster. I also benefit from reduced CPU usage, from about 60% to about 15%. Memory usage has also dropped, although less dramatically than CPU usage.

    HELLO FIREFOX!! You started life being the leanest, meanest, most efficient browser in the world! It's time to get back to your roots!

    --
    "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    1. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also switched to palemoon... but I wish that HTTPS Everywhere plugin was compatible :(

    2. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, Pale Moon will die when Firefox does, so I hope you're happy with your choice. The placebo effect of switching to Pale Moon instead of a 64-bit nightly or just not running CTR is indeed wonderful but you're pissing in the wind. You won't be shaming Mozilla, as they're the ones doing the real leg-work here, not just bitching and moaning.

    3. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      I'm using HTTPSEverywhere, version 5.04 on Pale Moon version 25.4.1 for 64 bit Linux. It seems to work off and on - it's not reliable. I also installed HTTPNowhere and that pretty simply failed, so I removed it.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    4. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhhhhh - Pale Moon is not Firefox, and it hasn't been for some time. It is a fork, unlike some other Firefox copycats. I remember FasterFox, which simply took each new version of Firefox, and recompiled it with their own tweaks. That is not the case with Pale Moon. The code has been altered to suit a different vision, and they no longer even try to recompile new FF versions. Pale Moon is a complete break with Firefox.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    5. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh? And are they implementing their own versions of OMTC, APZ, and Electrolysis? Or the new HTML5/ES6 stuff that Mozilla is implementing? Or are they just cherry-picking what they like from Mozilla, while doing minor tweaks to their own version and calling it a day? It's easy to pretend you're doing the hard work when you've got a paid parent branch to pull from. It's doubly easy when you can just break compatibilty with Firefox's addons and people will give you a pat on the back, unlike for Firefox. It's pathetic, however, when you just take from the source and never contribute anything back. So I hope Pale Moon really is putting their money where their mouth is, and made the clean break you're claiming.

    6. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Their plans are readily available on the site I supplied above. If you're really interested, you'll go read about it. If you're not really interested, I can summarize, and say that they are cherry picking.

      Let me make this a little plainer. Pale Moon took the Ghekko engine at - uhhhhhh, version 27 I think it was - and "froze" it. That is what they are working with. Yes, they have broken compatibility with some Firefox things. No, they don't intend to implement all the "improvements" that Firefox builds in the future.

      Now, which part of "fork" did you fail to understand? It is not Firefox anymore. Pale Moon is somewhat backward compatible with old versions of Firefox, and addons that worked on old Firefox will either work, or can be made to work on Pale Moon. Newer addons grow into big problems, quickly.

      Pale Moon has no intention of remaining compatible with Firefox, and as time goes on, it should look less and less like Firefox.

      Now, please don't make me try to justify Pale Moon anymore. I'm just a user who has been moderately well impressed with it. I'm not a developer, an investor, a fanboy, or anything else. Just a user, who is pleased with the dramatic difference in resource consumption on an aging computer. Pale Moon is treating me well.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    7. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'd try it, but they took out accessibility features. That just feels like a big fuck you to a segment of the population and I'm not even hard of seeing.

    8. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok then. Enjoy your increasingly irrelevant and backward browser, and whining even more when it's completely useless in 2 years, like Dillo or IE6.

    9. Re:A little late by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      You're talking like some kind of a damned fool now. So, I switched to a new browser. Let's say that you are right - it folds in two years. Are you saying that I can't come back to Firefox next week, next month, or next year? Huh? Is there some kind of a stop-bit in Pale Moon which will forever prevent me from installing and/or updating Firefox?

      FFS, right now, today, in this world that I am experiencing right now, Blue Moon works better than Firefox, in some ways. That doesn't tie me to Blue Moon forever and forever, amen.

      Test drive the damned thing for yourself. THEN you might have something to say that is worth listening to.

      --
      "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    10. Re:A little late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You want to tell us what car we should all be driving, too? You remind me of a guy I went to school with, who announced that the Lamborghini Countach had been voted the greatest car of all time, so we should all be driving it.

      Grow the hell up. People don't need to use what you think they should use just because you feel it invalidates your personal choices.

  13. For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had to look this up. For anyone else wondering: this is one of those hidden FIrefox features which is only available to people who know about it ahead of time, through the about:config interface. If you're one of those people who isn't in the club, the boolean you search for is "privacy.trackingprotection.enabled".

    [Insert rant about FIrefox's god-awful UI and severely lacking menu system.]

    1. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if you run Nightly, you can set privacy.trackingprotection.ui.enabled to enable the UI for the tracking protection, obviously. I'm not sure if the feature is ready, or if it can be enabled in the Beta or Aurora as well.

    2. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Imazalil · · Score: 1

      What do you mean lacking menu system.... ohh, right, you must be on Windows (or *nix, no idea how they do it these days).

      A lot of UI/Designers forget that you can't just make a pretty OS X like app in Windows because there is no persistent menu bar across the top to hide all your features. Being forced to dig through that side hamburger menu thing is a PITA.

    3. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      there is no persistent menu bar across the top to hide all your features

      There used to be. Is that gone? I wouldn't know - I stay as far away from MacOS as I do from GNOME, and for the same reason: if you want to do anything which even slightly deviates from what the UI designers planned for you to do (like enabling tracking protection) then you either know the secret handshake or you're out of luck.

      Actually, the thing which has irritated me the most about Firefox lately is the lack of configurability of shortcuts. Ctrl-w closes a tab while Ctrl-q quits the program... right next to one another. Every time I hit Ctrl-q by mistake I get angry and look for the menu option which lets me configure shortcuts, only to smack myself in the head and remember that it isn't there. The secret handshake for that one used to be a plug-in, but that doesn't work with current versions of Firefox. As annoying as the hamburger menu might be, I would be fine with it if it just had the options there for all of this stuff. You should never need to use the about:config tool if you're not a Firefox dev.

    4. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keyconfig:

      http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=72994

      Seems to be 4 years old but still works for me.

    5. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by allo · · Score: 1

      The irony: Look at the two urls belonging to the feature "SAFEBROWING_ID" ... oh yeah, there it goes again with the unique id (which is used for phishing protection as well).

    6. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you need to do is reconfigure some other plug-in's shortcut key to Ctrl+q. I had the same issues and since I used tons of tabs it was a real issue. It feels like Firefox uses some exponential algorithms when dealing with tabs, but I've never bothered to look. An accidental shutdown and restart took way too much time.

    7. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by Eythian · · Score: 1

      They covered all that in the article. Not just how to turn it on, but why it's not on by default/exposed in the UI yet. Seriously, you can't fail to RTFA and then be all "I had to look this up" and "you need to be in a special club to use this" when it explains what's going on right there in front of you.

    8. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      Huh. That's smart, thanks.

    9. Re:For anyone else wondering what the hell this is by guises · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. The links in the summary were to the paper and to explanations of the results of the paper. As it so happens, in the third link in addition to the paper results there was also an explanation of the feature but there was nothing in the summary that said, "This is the link you click on to find out how to do this."

      You're right that I didn't click on the links, but since the links didn't give any indication that one of them was providing the information that I was after I'm not willing to take the blame for that one.

  14. Slashdot has a similar problem by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    If you block "player.ooyala.com", the page loads much faster. Turns out I'm blocking some analytic tracking thing.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:Slashdot has a similar problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That as well as any other 3rd party site. Any place I visit regularly, I block anything that doesn't come from the local site.

    2. Re:Slashdot has a similar problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way ahead of you here.

      I've had ooyala.com blocked for over a year. Why? Because of Slashdot.

  15. Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by pereric · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, Wikipedia seems to work pretty fine without commercial ads (they do some fundraising sometime). And Open Streetmap seems to do fine, as are the plethora of services built upon it. Sometimes NGO:s and individuals do stuff and share it just because they want it done. Finding sponsorship or donations for the hosting fees are a minor problem then.

    1. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia (an encyclopedia) and Open Streetmap (a map) are general fundamental services, the kinds of which almost everyone needs. People want to support such foundations.

      But how about more specialized websites (such as Slashdot) or non-essential relaxation websites (YouTube for the most part)? Would people really bother to chuck in donations if there were no advertisements?

    2. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia (an encyclopedia) and Open Streetmap (a map) are general fundamental services, the kinds of which almost everyone needs. People want to support such foundations.

      But how about more specialized websites (such as Slashdot) or non-essential relaxation websites (YouTube for the most part)? Would people really bother to chuck in donations if there were no advertisements?

      I run my web site without any ads, and host it here at home. We have a 100/100 symmetric fiber link. The web site caters to a fairly specialized audience - horseriding (mostly show jumping), dancing (ballet & modern), and our family. It has served 335GB so far this month, but typically only serves 100-150GB/month. Oh, and in case anyone misinterprets, 1 GB is 1000 MB.

      This is how the internet is supposed to work.

    3. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works for Netflix.

    4. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are just choosing to give away your work for free, that's all. You could as well make pizza at home and distribute it to strangers for no cost. Now, someone somewhere pays for that 100/100 connection. I'm sure creating the horseriding content takes some of your time as well. It all just happens to be your hobby. But I think it would be exaggeration to say that that is how the Internet is supposed to work.

    5. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how about more specialized websites (such as Slashdot) or non-essential relaxation websites (YouTube for the most part)? Would people really bother to chuck in donations if there were no advertisements?

      Maybe, maybe not. But it's impossible to tell when everyone already assumes that everything must be ad-infested or nothing.

      Neither Slashdot, Youtube nor any site deserves to exist. If you can't create an audience willing to support your work without ad-infestation, then you deserve to go out of business.

    6. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by allo · · Score: 1

      Be important, get donations, be ran by volunteers or die, be a commercial site (webshops) or die.
      Nobody needs the 100000th "i want to play with you, but first see my AAAAAAAAAAAAADS" page, if its not interesting anyway.

    7. Re:Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      But how about more specialized websites (such as Slashdot) or non-essential relaxation websites (YouTube for the most part)? Would people really bother to chuck in donations if there were no advertisements?

      http://news.slashdot.org/story...

      http://slashdot.org/faq/subscr...

      The answer appears to be "yes".

    8. Re: Seems to work for OSM and Wikipedia by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

      OpenStreetMap is slow, because running geodatabase queries efficiently without strong infrastructure is a hard problem.

  16. news sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought news sites render slowly because they load videos clips (via plugins) and banner advertisements.

  17. AdBlock(s)/Ghostery = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  18. UBlock/AdBlock = Inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  19. AdBlock & its variants = Inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

    1. Re:AdBlock & its variants = Inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a fact, HOSTS files slow down computers.

  20. Come up with them yourself. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I asked for plausible alternatives.

    No.

    We are not part of the ad-servers "business plan" in any way whatsoever -- other than to be "obligated" to digest whatever advertisements are produced and pushed upon us (and lets not talk about the more nefarious stuff hiding inside it) -- , so think of (another) way to make money yourself.

    As for that "plausible" ? How are we supposed to know what you think is ? So, either define the boundaries, or tell us what you are so we can look at it from your perspective : a small website owner, as website-as-a-buisiness exploiter or maybe just an ad-seller ?

    Please explain how "no advertising" is such.

    How can we ? You have not specified the boundaries, so we have no idea (yeah, right ...) why you would reject something like that.

    You have to look it from the perspective of the content creator as well.

    Can we ? Really ?!

    Than the first thing I want to see the finances of that "content creator", like how much the website actually costs and how much the ads bring in.

    You see, I'm sick-and-tired of hearing some random joe complain about how his customers robbing him of much-needed cash -- just to pay the basic cost of running the website oufcourse -- but at the same time refusing to show anything to substanciate it.

    And than there is the fact that most of those complaining joes will at the same time do absolutily nothing to put a stop to it. And yes, they can. There are several technical solutions for it. But they don't. Why ?

    Also, when are those website owners going to "look (at) it from the perspective of the" visitor ?

    Those ads cost a lot of money to them. Ranging from needing (much) more bandwidth and/or MBytes-per-month upto the cost for a specialist to get rid of some malware that crept in thru that channel.

    And thats ofcourse apart from the problem that the visitor has gor no idea what is done with the (extra) info that is gained from placing those ads (privacy and all that).

    In short: You want to keep (making money from) placing those ads ? Than make sure you do not alienate the people who should be looking at them. As long as you can't do that (for whatever reason) you will loose the game.

    Evolve or die.

  21. Yes you can & for the BEST hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this: APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit: http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    * :)

    (By "yours truly"... accept NO substitutes!)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  22. The way it's supposed to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now, someone somewhere pays for that 100/100 connection.

    It costs me all of 43 euro per month, and has no limits on capacity or ports or otherwise; that's the standard contract here. We use it for accessing web pages at various sites, including banking and shopping (cookies destroyed and cache cleared immediately afterwards). The web server is just an extra. Like the mail server and media server and file server.

    It all just happens to be your hobby.

    And that's precisely the point. This is the way the internet is supposed to work.

  23. UBlock/AdBlock/ABP = Inferior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  24. Ghostery and adblock by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    I use several anti tracking plugins and I've noticed that when I switch to a different browser without them the page load time is much faster. I also have googled safe surf turned on which blocks evil sites. In starting to think these tracking blockers and stuff slow things down. They don't really stop tracking since the blockers or google safe surf are middlemen who can track you.

    Thus I would welcome a unified approach to protecting myself that was actually faster

    --
    Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
    1. Re:Ghostery and adblock by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Block them at the Firewall.

    2. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you're on a lower end system, Adblock Plus can cause some considerable slowdown because of the manner in which it blocks ads/tracking cookies. You might consider trying ÂBlock instead. I switched about a year back and I've been really happy with it so far. It seems to work just as well, and without so much bloat.

    3. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might consider trying ÂBlock instead.

      Ah, whoops. That should have been uBlock (with the mu symbol for the u), not ÂBlock.

    4. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      uBlock is a forked version that adds nothing apart from some donation links, the original version is better and was renamed to uBlock Origin

    5. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got that wrong friend. uBlock has a different filtering engine and is a huge improvement. Many of the popular Adblock forks (such as ABE) are being discontinued in favour of uBlock.

    6. Re:Ghostery and adblock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the things that come up as embedded styles with uBlock enabled?

      I'm seeing things like .railad,.adwrap,[href^="http://www.faceporn.net/free?"] etc even while browsing Slashdot, but these sites are not (AFAIK) advertised here.

      When I first saw it, I was looking at the source of my own website, and I have zero advertisements on it - I thought my server had been hacked and there was malicious JS serving up ads/popups/drive-bys or something.

      Disabling uBlock makes these things go away, and I've not been able to find any sufficient explanation as to what they are, what they do or why they're there.

    7. Re:Ghostery and adblock by CauseBy · · Score: 2

      Ghostery is awesome. I was a longtime AdBlock Plus user but I switched to uBlock based on a recommendation from a bigger nerd than I am, and I have found uBlock to be better in all the claimed ways. Check it out.

  25. Seems you use hosts, fustakrakich by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I had to use my hosts file! I blocked "player.ooyala.com" and Slashdot loads much faster now. it was getting to be a real dog." - Journal by fustakrakich on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @03:08PM

    See subject & this: APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit: http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    * :)

    (By "yours truly"... accept NO substitutes!)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  26. Ghostery/AdBlock(s) = 'Souled-Out' & Inferior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery or adblock & its variants do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  27. Ghostery/Adblock(s) = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery/adblock & its variants do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  28. AdBlock & AdBlock+ = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ABP/adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-16 next)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on ANY webbound app (like stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on ABP/AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

    APK

    P.S.=> BOTH do less than hosts do & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery's Advertiser owned - "A fox guards the henhouse"-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Both add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (their employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  29. UBlock = INFERIOR vs. hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can UBlock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on UBlock doing it as well or at all!

    APK

    P.S.=> UBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    UBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  30. Supplement DNS w/ hosts (better speed) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & for less resources consumed + less "moving part" for breakdown OR exploitation:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues!

    Local hosts files consume less power vs. DNS!

    Especially vs. LOCALLY installed DNS servers (especially on a separate machine but less on same single system but still there) & they definitely consume more CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O needlessly + add complexity of setup + deny tables are MORE COMPLEX to write than simple hosts blocking entries are by far...

    HOWEVER:

    Hosts, when combined w/ a filtering REMOTE DNS, such as OpenDNS (patched vs. the Kaminsky redirect flaw, 99.999% of ISP DNS aren't + OpenDNS filters threats), hosts & remote DNS compliment one another like 'bread & butter' do!

    Using my program shown below, one can place their favorite websites they spend MOST of their time online @ the TOP of a custom hosts file which caches into RAM (for me, that's like 95++% locally queried FASTER from hosts with no remote query-turnaround timelag OR risk of redirection poisonings), & resolves as FAST as possible (since hosts are the 1st thing queried by the IP stack by default).

    BONUS for DNS admins: Hosts lighten up the request load, making the server work less, thus less chance for breakdown + power consumption too!

    * :)

    (By "yours truly"... Accept NO substitutes & ENJOY!)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  31. The "Lord of HOSTS" = victorious... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "The LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081010142651AAPvMox with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> INSERT MY POST HERE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR BULLSHIT

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/17-software-packages-in-a-repair-performance-test-after-malware-attacks/

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  32. The "Lord of HOSTS" = victorious... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "The LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081010142651AAPvMox with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use...

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7460853&cid=49769025

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/17-software-packages-in-a-repair-performance-test-after-malware-attacks/

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  33. Re: For anyone else wondering what the hell this i by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UI problem here is wrong. They want you to be tracked because this is like the fiasco for DNT: all major browser makers are commercial. What Mozilla is really saying is that the feature is not believed mature enough for GUI presence, but they can sunset it anytime...Removing an option comes first by sweeping it under the rug before letting the code be pruned. The google and yahoo search overlords will get plenty of time to "fix this new feature

  34. Test Infrastructure is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The code has been altered to suit a different vision, and they no longer even try to recompile new FF versions. Pale Moon is a complete break with Firefox

    So while I work for Mozilla, I don't dislike Pale Moon in any way. Forking is a natural part of open source and it should be! :)
    I'm not going to discuss good/bad about forking we all know about innovation vs. fragmentation, etc... Instead I want to objectively highlight one of the things that makes forking hard: build/test infrastructure.

    But as someone who works on Mozilla build/test automation infrastructure, I wonder how Pale Moon plans to keep the unit tests green. The infrastructure is very complicated with many platforms, tests and fragile performance tests. To give you an idea take a look at: https://treeherder.mozilla.org... it displays pushes, platforms builds and tests (even understanding it is non-trivial).

    This is not to bash Pale Moon, or to claim that they can succeed. I'm merely trying to say that forking a complex project requires a huge support staff even with all automation scripts, configuration and source code licensed appropriately, duplication test infrastructure is very hard.
    Given that their commit rate is lower Pale Moon probably doesn't need as much infrastructure, but keeping tests green will still be a huge effort.

    This is IMO sad, it's not in the open source spirit to make things hard to fork. But I also know that we have efforts in progress to modernize our infrastructure and make it easier to redeploy (but it'll probably be a long time before this is easy).

  35. Let's see now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you say the same thing if a man were fired from his job and effectively blackballed for supporting gay rights?

    Such a person would not have been jailed for what he said or believed, and would have had the right to say it, but not have been shielded from the consequences of his speech. Same thing, except that your side of the political spectrum has passed laws making it illegal to fire the pervert (so much for free speech). You MAY think this is great and that you are on the right side of history, but that's never a certain thing. Take a good long look at history. Many people who thought they had achieved a permanent cultural/political change were later proven wrong. The better, safer, and more intellectually honest thing is to favor all free speech and allow everybody to believe what they want ind interact with those they wish to interact with, forcing no views or actions on anybody... it's called freedom.

    1. Re: Let's see now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was fired because he couldn't effectively lead. It's hard to lead when you're known for fighting to keep some of the people you're leading from having equal rights.

      Being a bigoted asshole does not entitle one to protection when you can't do the job.

  36. Obama-foreign-policystyle faux argument by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time somebody complains about Obama's foreign policy, he cleverly fires back that the alternative is WAR, falsely positioning all his opponents as wanting war by implying there are only two options. Same thing going on here with internet ads. When people oppose sluggish page loads and intrusive, spying ads the advertisers respond with: well SOMEBODY has to pay for all those web sites (with the implication that the web would go dark without completely advertising techniques.

    The truth is that before the web, NO advertiser had the sorts of metrics and user spying that the web has spoiled advertisers into having but that did not stop entire ad-driven industries from arising. With radio, television, newspapers, magazines, billboards, etc the advertisers spent their money on ads WITHOUT getting click counts, tracking every person who saw the ad, attaching spy devices to the viewers and then snooping on them to see every other ad they looked at and every other thing they chose to read. Has anybody here seen "Mad Men"???? For those too young to remember first-hand, that series was a good reminder that advertisers actually used to make ads that could not be clicked and carried no scripts or cookies.

    This Obama-style "Accept my bad behavior, or we are all doomed" argument is a false choice designed to coax people into accepting behaviors and/or policies that are inferior to other (unmentioned but superior) policies.

  37. so...you oppose "open source"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hmmmm. Ok. Most people on Slashdot support open source, which is BASED on the concept that other people can use the code for other projects, even if they are just forks.

    I'm always fascinated by people who support "free speech" ... until it offends THEM, or "free code"... until it affects some project THEY like.

    Think about it.

  38. The "Lord of HOSTS" = victorious... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081010142651AAPvMox with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7460853&cid=49769923

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/17-software-packages-in-a-repair-performance-test-after-malware-attacks/

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed, unable to validly technically prove all of my points in favor of hosts wrong & being reduced to unjustifiable downmods - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  39. AdBlock & variants = Inferior vs. hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  40. The "Lord of HOSTS" wins again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> INSERT MY POST HERE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR BULLSHIT

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed since all you had was unjustifiable downmods, yet not validly technically proving all of my points in favor of hosts adding more speed, security, reliability + anonymity (for less, no less), wrong - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  41. The "Lord of Hosts" wins again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> INSERT MY POST HERE IN RESPONSE TO THEIR BULLSHIT

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed since all you had was unjustifiable downmods, yet not validly technically proving all of my points in favor of hosts adding more speed, security, reliability + anonymity (for less, no less), wrong - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  42. The "Lord of Hosts" wins again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed since all you had was unjustifiable downmods, yet not validly technically proving all of my points in favor of hosts adding more speed, security, reliability + anonymity (for less, no less), wrong - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  43. ABP/UBlock = Inferior vs. hosts... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock variants or ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites (beyond malicious ads)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communique to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you by a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on any webbound app (e.g. stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Block ads more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory use vs. addons

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each on AdBlock or Ghostery doing all that let alone well!

    APK

    P.S.=> Addons do FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Addons add complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  44. Ghostery = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can ghostery do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on Ghostery doing it as well or at all!

    APK

    P.S.=> Ghostery does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...

    Ghostery adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  45. The "Lord of HOSTS" wins again... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Just like the TRUE "LORD of Hosts" https://answers.yahoo.com/ques... with rank after rank of protective power I can summon @ a word: Hosts!

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "The image this title brings to mind is of a mighty military commander, one who can at a mere word summon rank upon rank of protective power" via custom hosts files use.

    ---

    * "And the world wondered after the beast saying 'Who is like unto the beast, & who is able to make war with him'?" - Revelations Chapter 13 verse 3-4

    I'm not "that guy" (far FROM it) but, it's certain no "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" & its variants, Ghostery, & other easily detected by native browser methods browser addons or even DNS servers locally installed fans can after this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    1 thing's also SURE on that note (to unjustified downmods of my posts): It's been YOUR "APKOLYPSE" (misspelling & pun DEFINITELY intended after the above + the fact that's "the best you got" & nothing more, period: lol!)...

    ---

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> You have TRULY, massively failed since all you had was unjustifiable downmods, yet not validly technically proving all of my points in favor of hosts adding more speed, security, reliability + anonymity (for less, no less), wrong - So, Thank-You (for making ME look GREAT & yourself by way of comparison? LMAO - well... "not so great")

    ... apk

  46. AdBlock = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:

    1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious ads: See 2-10 next)
    2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stop communication to C&C servers
    5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
    6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
    7.) Protect vs. trackers
    8.) Protect vs. spam
    9.) Protect vs. phishing
    10.) Protect vs. bandwidth caps
    11.) Get you past a dnsbl
    12.) Keep you off dns request logs
    13.) Speed up websurfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
    14.) Work on ANY webbound app (think stand-alone email programs) multiplatform.
    15.) Give you easily texteditor controlled data for the above
    16.) Do all that & block ads (better than addons) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage

    * ANSWER ="NO" to each above on AdBlock doing it as well or at all!

    APK

    P.S.=> AdBlock does FAR less than hosts do & FAR less efficiently - hosts by way of comparison, do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):

    AdBlock's 4++gb & 100% CPU usage flooring inefficiency -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... + ClarityRay defeats it + it 'souled-out' & is crippled by default paid off to not do its job http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... & ABP too http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...

    AdBlock adds complexity/room for breakdown/exploit + from a slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).

    For the BEST hosts file?

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    ... apk

  47. Why just 1 only 1 source of hosts data? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's 9 more hosts file sources possible via APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit SR-2 http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74 that you can use vs. more ads & exploits online.

    It uses all 10 reputable sites for said data (including MVPS) + allows you to select ONLY the ones you see fit to use should you elect to not use all of them.

    It also succeeds in shearing out ANY & ALL useless "bulk" in said hosts files it imports + it makes a host file more efficient by making the blocking address the most efficient one possible making hosts files BETTER THAN THEY ARE by default - even gaining you MORE speed & reliability + security by "hardcoding" your favorite websites you spend most of your time online at placing them @ the TOP of a custom hosts file for fastest possible access, especially once hosts are cached into RAM (exceeding remote DNS lookup slowness + indexing speed & their redirect security faults since most are NOT PATCHED vs. the Kaminsky redirect flaw + gaining you reliable connections if DNS goes "down" & they do, quite a lot).

    That's done simply by decreasing the hosts file's size & line-by-line internal parse speed during the file open/read-write/flush/close I/O cycle (changing said blocking IP address from the larger slower 127.0.0.1 loopback adapter address) & smaller files load into memory faster...

    Even Microsoft's VP of their Client Performance Division conceded that to me-> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1467692&cid=30384918 back in 2009 since it's undeniable fact.

    APK

    P.S.=> MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts + recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news/news-single-view/17-software-packages-in-a-repair-performance-test-after-malware-attacks/

    ... apk

    1. Re:Why just 1 only 1 source of hosts data? by Scotsman,+True · · Score: 1

      Don't trust it, anyone with grammar this atrocious is obviously a Nigerian scammer.

  48. Re:Ghostery = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Malware warning, don't try APK Host File Engine.

  49. Re:Ghostery = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Untrue. MalwareBytes' hpHost site hosts & recommends it http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... they're the best in the business as far as malware detection from the test in July 2014 that apk put up as evidence of that also. You're just being a troll, go away!

  50. Re:Ghostery = Inferior vs. hosts + 'Souled-Out' by Scotsman,+True · · Score: 1

    I heard editing your hosts file is a good way to get viruses.

  51. Trolls ahead by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Don't pay attention. It's basically just trolls pretending to be outraged just because mozilla decided to give the option to end users to use a 3rd party binary plug-in to handle DRM decryption in HTML5 videos.
    (you know, the same way Flash, Java, Silverlight, etc. had always been plug-ins too. Except that DRM is much more restricted in what it can do, as it runs in a sand box that only allows it to work as a decryption filter).

    --
    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  52. LolWut? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My app gets its data from 10 reputable & reliable sites in the security community (such as MVPS, SomeOneWhoCare & MalwareBytes' hpHosts (who have vetted my program for safety & host + recommend it @ the top of their site for data of that nature here-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... )).

    APK

    P.S.=> Per my subject above? My reaction is THAT, since the ONLY way that'd happen is if you inserted a malicious site into it yourself manually... or if you suck in a malware that does it like QHosts as an example!

    However:

    My program protects hosts vs. malicious things doing it since it updates from FRESH data (every 12 hours automatically IF you wish, more if you do it manually yourself) & overwrites your host with the MOST current data regarding threats online from the reputable sources I noted some 'samples thereof' above... & my program applies Read-Only attributes to your actual hosts file every 1/2 second on a hi-res timer (better than exclusively locking the file which WOULD be another way, but some browsers use hosts too, not just the IP stack)) while my program is resident + when it shuts down - Windows File Protection & UAC do the rest for securing hosts pretty well ontop of that, so you know... apk

  53. Very good! For the BEST hosts file? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & this: APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    FREE & adds speed, security, + reliability, doing more with less, more efficiently vs. browser addons & locally installed DNS servers @ home + fixes DNS' redirect security issues - obtaining its data vs. online threats & adbanner blocking from 10 reputable sites in the security community!

    * :)

    (By "yours truly"... accept NO substitutes!)

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  54. Unsupported conclusions by dumky2 · · Score: 1

    I read the paper and it is ok (nothing groundbreaking) on the technical side. But I was shocked to see broad conclusion of political or economic nature that were not supported by any argumentation in the paper.

    In particular, the first sentence of the conclusion: "The Internet’s principal revenue model leads to misaligned incentives between users, advertisers, and content providers, essentially creating a race to the bottom."
    I guess we'll just take your opinion for it.

    --
    These comments are mine; I do not speak for my employer.
  55. It's verified 100% safe... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: By MalwareBytes' hpHosts (who vetted it for safety & host + recommend it @ the top of their site for data for custom hosts files, here-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... ).

    * It doesn't GET any better than that since they are literally the BEST antimalware on the planet per a very recent testing of them all, & I've got their validation on its safety!

    (Nothing can touch it, or me (least of all a TROLL like yourself spouting falsehoods/fables...)).

    My app also gets its data from 10 reputable sites in the security community (such as MVPS, SomeOneWhoCares & MalwareBytes & they ARE TRULY the BEST antivirus per that July 2014 recent test of them all -> http://www.av-test.org/en/news... ).

    Lastly - Learn to read, or get "hooked on phonics" remedial reading lessons help... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Judging by your 7-digit brand-new /. account (sockpuppet) & your previous FAILED attempt @ "making me look bad" here in this article's exchanges once already -> http://news.slashdot.org/comme... ?

    It's VERY obvious you're just some troll that I've no doubt utterly wasted before, using a new 'sockpuppet' account, since you most likely repeatedly vainly & effetely flailed against facts I post in favor of hosts efficacy + efficiency gains over browser addons galore & failed!

    That, OR you're a malware maker, advertiser, or INFERIOR competitor... take your pick (they're the only ones threatened by it after all).

    (Especially since no single one really does MORE & for less than hosts, which unlike OTHER "so-called 'security solutions', actually gains you speed, vs. stealing it)...

    ... apk

  56. Caveat/"Catch-22" w/ OpenDNS (AD) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Using OpenDNS on a network that has a directory service like Active Directory CAN be "problematic" so, that advice is NOT for Network Admins in companies... It can mess up MX records, so that Exchange + Outlook will NOT function correctly, as 1 possible symptom of it.

    APK

    P.S.=> I've run into it before, but my previous advice is FINE for local systems @ home (not on a LAN or much less a corporate WAN etc. - et al), especially 'stand-alone' SINGLE systems MOST folks have vs. home networks on AD... apk

  57. VirusTotal shows otherwise fool... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/... APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/... = 100% verified SAFE & CLEAN...

    * :)

    (VirusTotal proves it, above & beyond MalwareBytes' hpHosts doing so as well -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... in my last post that SHUT YOU DOWN, easily...)

    APK

    P.S.=> You FAIL, moron - & of course, I'll use this in the future vs. your utter b.s. (from your newly created sockpuppet account for trolling me, BOULDIN)... apk