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Toshiba Introduces a Cortana Keyboard Button For Windows 10

Ammalgam writes: In what seems like a really pivotal moment for computing, Toshiba have indicated that they will be introducing a new button to their line of keyboards. This key would be dedicated to summoning Microsoft's virtual assistant in Windows 10 — Cortana. A dedicated Cortana key would be one of the more significant changes to the keyboard since the Windows key was added at about the time Windows 95 was introduced, in 1995.

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  1. Time to update x.org by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 4, Informative

    We need to handle a Mod-6 key now.

    1. Re:Time to update x.org by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 2

      The link in your sig is dead.

    2. Re:Time to update x.org by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I'll sort it out when I can steal a few hours from my day job. :)

  2. hardly revolutionary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure this is the same department as laptop specialty keys or the play/pause/skip buttons. The Windows key is used for shortcuts and is positioned in the main grouping. Surely they aren't sticking this in the main group of keys.

    1. Re:hardly revolutionary by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article starts with a picture that suggests it replaces the Esc key. (I can hear your screams of shock and pain from here.)

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    2. Re:hardly revolutionary by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      *presses Cortana key*
      Me: Quit metro app
      Cortana: I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
      Me: Go fuck yourself!!!
      *Windows 10 shuts down*
      Me: I guess the Esc key does work after all.

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    3. Re:hardly revolutionary by jrumney · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is clearly a conspiracy by Emacs users to make vi unusable on Windows 10.

    4. Re:hardly revolutionary by mattventura · · Score: 1

      For that matter, is it even any different than the plain old windows key? I haven't tried it with voice, but with the windows key you press it, type whatever, and it puts it in the search/cortana box.

    5. Re:hardly revolutionary by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      The article starts with a picture that suggests it replaces the Esc key. (I can hear your screams of shock and pain from here.)

      You're right. Initially I thought it was up in the uselss-wank row of keys that vendors like to put above the function keys, but it does appear to be replacing the Esc key. Assuming they then follow the Lenovo Carbon Gen 2 model of keyboard braindamage which is... well it's hard to describe in words, see for yourself (yes, someone actually did that on purpose, which is why you can buy Gen 2's on eBay for much less than the older Gen 1's), there'll be a quick subsequent release of a Model n+1 that undoes it all again.

    6. Re: hardly revolutionary by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      Why, Lenovo, why?! We trusted you! Guh, now I have to go find my old T61 and give it a hug.

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    7. Re: hardly revolutionary by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      I've actually got a Gen 1, bought long after the Gen 2 came out, specifically because the keyboard is sane. It is a *really* nice laptop, as long as you don't make the mistake of getting a Gen 2.

    8. Re:hardly revolutionary by frisket · · Score: 1

      I so wanted a Microsoft Bob key or a Paperclip key...

  3. Brings back memories by Svenne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, remember all those times you used that e-mail button on your keyboard to start your mail program, or the globe button to launch the web browser. I can't even imagine life before I had those. I bet this will be just as successful!

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    1. Re:Brings back memories by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately it's a toshiba, so it will stop working in a few months.

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    2. Re:Brings back memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Is this sarcasm? ...I actually use those buttons. Calc is linked to terminal, printer to calc (i know, i know), globe is firefox, mail is mail, and the squiggle line thing that HP linked to it's crapware in Windows sits unused.

    3. Re: Brings back memories by slick7 · · Score: 3

      It seems to be a physical feature to justify another MS upgrade that has yet to prove itself.

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    4. Re:Brings back memories by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly. I've never, ever, EVER used the stupid assed Windows key, even when I was running Windows operating systems.

      Oh, I have - all the time - accidentally. Used to really piss me off when I was using Windows, and I had to stop what I was doing and close the popup.

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    5. Re:Brings back memories by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I've never, ever, EVER used the stupid assed Windows key

      It's actually useful with the "e" key to bring up the "file manager"/"windows explorer" when somebody wants help and they won't let go of the mouse or they don't have an instantly available icon to click on for it.
      However my keyboard doesn't even have that key and I don't miss it.

    6. Re: Brings back memories by jrumney · · Score: 2

      The Windows key only really became a bad idea in Windows 8. Before that it was relatively harmless on its own, and quite useful as an additional modifier key.

    7. Re: Brings back memories by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I don't know how many times I was mouseless and had to hit the start menu.

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    8. Re:Brings back memories by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Just hit the ESC key and it brings you right back to where you were - umm... Cursor not included. Bah, screw it. Just use the mouse.

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    9. Re:Brings back memories by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Worse, it looks a lot like a power button.

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    10. Re: Brings back memories by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Before that it was relatively harmless on its own

      Unless you played games. Back in '95, the Windows key used to be known as the "crash now" key.

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    11. Re:Brings back memories by CaptQuark · · Score: 1

      I agree. I use the Window-e key combination daily to bring up Windows Explorer. It is one of the consistent ways of starting Windows Explorer no matter which version of Windows the user has installed.

      Less frequently I use Window-D to minimize all windows and show the desktop, Windows-+ to start the magnifier program to show users something small on their display, and Window-Break to display the system page to check Windows version, RAM size, and machine name.

      ~~

    12. Re:Brings back memories by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You misspelled "fortunately".

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    13. Re: Brings back memories by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      By now, yes. Back then, it was such a novel thing that keyboard makers apparently could not imagine anyone wanting it turned off.

      But by now, any game worth its money disables that key itself, or at least handles it gracefully if you hit it. Some games actually make use of it.

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    14. Re: Brings back memories by robi5 · · Score: 1

      tl;dr the windows key is useful on all platforms but windows

  4. Basically by funwithBSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    a Clippy Key?

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    1. Re:Basically by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      "Pass the Clippy on the left hand side. . ."

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  5. Silly marketing people by sperxios10 · · Score: 1

    They took pageup/pagedown keys out, used on every page and introduced silly keys. Why is marketing people so stupid? Why do they win every decision?

    1. Re:Silly marketing people by allo · · Score: 1

      keyboards are used by nerds, the typical DAU uses a tablet by now.

  6. Escape by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    Looks like it replaced the esc key.
    Now what?

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    1. Re:Escape by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      It means that if you get a Toshiba computer, you can't escape from Cortana's grip.

    2. Re:Escape by binarylarry · · Score: 2

      There is no escape.

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    3. Re:Escape by fisted · · Score: 1

      Now we remap the damn key to produce an Escape keysym.

    4. Re:Escape by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2

      Looks like it replaced the esc key.
      Now what?

      You'll have to use "Ctl+[".

    5. Re:Escape by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1
      The picture is just a blue circle drawn over an ESC key where the lettering has been erased with a clone operation, so is probably just an interpretation of where it will be.

      The key will be located the upper left area of the keyboard, near the function keys

      But I hope they aren't planning on doing anything to the escape key.

      Chromebooks have a "google/apps search" button instead of caps lock, so it's not very original.

  7. Re:Um, Nope by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    windows +L at work is pretty much the only time i use that key, or searching on windows 8

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  8. Re:Thank you captain obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Shut up, Arcademan.

  9. Re:Thank you captain obvious by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

    Could have been 1895 or 2095.

    Oh wait, you guys haven't discovered time travel yet.

    Carry on.

  10. Re:Thank you captain obvious by Megahard · · Score: 1

    So Windows 10 is 5 years late.

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  11. Windows Keys by Dracos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remember when Windows only needed 3 keys?

    1. Re:Windows Keys by pigiron · · Score: 1

      No, that was EMACS.

    2. Re:Windows Keys by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Remember when Windows only needed 3 keys?

      Hell, I remember when it only needed one big red switch.

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  12. Re:Thank you captain obvious by SeaFox · · Score: 2

    the time Windows 95 was introduced, in 1995.

    In case we thought that the 95 stood for something else.

    If it was Google who wrote Windows, we would have hit Windows 95 back in the 1980s.

  13. What's the onomatopoeia for an eye roll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    First paragraph of the article: "As an IT professional with 20+ years in the business, it’s easy to get jaded."
    This is written on http://www.windows10update.com, so yeah, I agree with that first paragraph. The rest of it? Not in my lifetime. Especially the fake hype about a god damned button!

    PS: How the hell does this merit a post here? And even if it did, I'd pick a better article, though I doubt that exists...

    1. Re:What's the onomatopoeia for an eye roll? by fisted · · Score: 1

      But this is big. It's right there in TFA.

  14. Worth reading the whole article by simplypeachy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The summary really doesn't do this article the justice it deserves. It's been some time since I've seen such a strong example of Poe's Law.

    1. Re:Worth reading the whole article by fisted · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the headache

  15. I hate the Windows key by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

    Back in the day, we'd play Quake using a keyboard, and the button between ctrl(shoot) and alt(strafe) was that dumb windows key. On all my keyboards I get for home use, the windows key rapidly meets the fate of being pried off by a screw driver.

    1. Re:I hate the Windows key by Misagon · · Score: 1

      That is why many "gaming" keyboards offers a special "Window Lock" mode that does nothing but disabling the left Windows key ...

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    2. Re:I hate the Windows key by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I'm 38 years old Quaker. I have better motor control. You're also a stupid motherfucker

      Ah yes, I can tell. Spoken like a true Quaker.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    3. Re:I hate the Windows key by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Then there are games where holding TAB will display the scoreboard, and holding Alt will show health bars...

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    4. Re:I hate the Windows key by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Disgust for the convicted monopoly-abuser microsoft is a better reason for ripping off the windows key than sheer utility. In fact, a screwdriver is a pretty gentle tool - another version is if you don't buy a laptop or keyboard that has an 'in your face' ms marketing key in a prime location. Thinkpads held up for a good while. Btw. the GP probably has better motor control than you, evidenced by your untreated La Tourette syndrom, or worse, emotional need for behaving this way.

  16. Oh my gosh, what a creation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oh! My! Gosh! What a creation! I can imagine people kicking down the doors waiting for this one!!! How will they keep the hoards from breaking the building apart when they don't have enough in stock? I can even see people bringing in their old keyboards, getting a blowtorch and getting rid of that "ESC" thing (what was that for again?), and inserting the round circle (not a 0, not an O or an o, but the CORTANA button). This single lone thing is bigger than the CPU, its bigger than electricity! This changes everything! What did we do before this??? Oh! My! Gosh! Toshiba, you sure are the clever ones! I know I'm going to smash my current keyboard to bits right now, and rush out and demand 5, no 10. 10 of these keyboards! Golly!

  17. new ruler: pivotal moments by epine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I dearly love my old Compaq keyboard, but he's a gap toothed beast ever since the "pivotal" moment where I hooked my fingernail under the exposed edge of my right-hand Windows keys and the key cap went catapulting through the air.

    Another "pivotal moment" in my career was when I finally learned how to quickly hack together a user style to eliminate annoying bling on any web page I happen to visit.

    I have close to 150 tiny user scripts in my inventory now, and no longer see any "social" buttons on any web site I frequent or any slider animations. As I don't actually use any social networks "share" decorations are just a visual plague so far as I'm concerned.

    The worst web sites I've visited come up completely red with a giant profanity across the screen (those that pretend to offer something useful, but the hoops exceed any possible utility one might derive).

    Just half an hour ago I coded up this user style:

    body a {
          background: yellow;
          pointer-events: none !important;
          cursor: default !important;
    }

    This makes all links on all tabs non-clickable, for when I want to select link text using MakeLink to copy into my wiki. It's damn annoying trying to select clickable text. I pretty much always use double-click drag (whole words only) for the main selection gesture. This simply doesn't work on links. Correction. It simply didn't work on links. Of course, I have to turn it on and off manually. I'll work on a button later.

    Oh, yes, another pivotal moment was when I took control over USB insertion events to prevent a certain device from auto-mounting every time I put it on the tit to juice up. That initiative required several freakish lines of syntax, but at the end of the day was entirely worth the effort.

    Huh. That's funny. There seems to be a pattern here. All my pivotal events, pretty much, are when I finally suppress some irritating pimple-glint love child auto-bling from imposing itself on my happy cocoon.

    1. Re:new ruler: pivotal moments by Livius · · Score: 1

      It's been a long time since I've seen a 'feature' added that really was universally useful.

      Sure, some people enjoy them, and maybe even find them occasionally practical, but it takes no more effort for the developers to make that kind of crap optional.

  18. What a stupid idea by allo · · Score: 1

    Its forseeable that cortana will (soonish) start to be always listening and react to the user saying "okay cortana" (or similiar), so no button will be needed.

  19. Re:Simple fix by Livius · · Score: 1

    Put in a bit of cardboard and put the cap back.

    Less unsightly and sooner or later you will hit the spot by accident.

  20. Oh good, another fucking button by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Oh good, another fucking button in addition to the mail/ web/ home/ messenger/ calculator/ log off/ sleep/ and windows start buttons. Will it feature Mr. Clip it, and that annoying dog too? Personally, I want my keyboard to have a hot/cold automatic cup holder with integrated flush toilet.

  21. Re:Simple fix by fisted · · Score: 1

    Cardboard? Fucking casual.

    The correct solution is to glue a drawing pin onto the keycap, upside down.

  22. How many actually use Cortana... by unixisc · · Score: 1

    ... that it's worth its own key? For that matter, is Siri or Ask Google any better?

    1. Re:How many actually use Cortana... by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Youi're missing the point: This is not being added because people use Cortana much (Win 10 hasn't even been released yet!) but it's another strategy to get you to use it more.
      Microsoft has done many things in Win 10 to tempt you to use their services (e.g.: search searches the web by default using Bing, OneDrive can't be uninstalled,..) and I hate it

  23. Cortana isn't going to be available in all markets by msobkow · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cortana isn't even going to be available here in Canada when Windows 10 is released. Why would I want yet another Windows-specific key for a useless MicroSoft "feature" on my keyboard?

    As it is, I use good old fashioned AT keyboards without any of the volume keys and other crap that you see on "consumer" keyboards. Don't need them, don't want them, and hate wasting the desk space for another row of buttons.

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  24. You do realize... by msobkow · · Score: 1

    "Cortana" is another C-word like "Clippy" and will probably prove about as useful... :P

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  25. downhill since the control key moved by dltaylor · · Score: 1

    With so many keyboard shortcuts bound to control-, and it requiring such an awkward reach to the current location, I guess it only makes sense to add a bunch of stupid clutter to what should be a straightforward input device.

    1. Re:downhill since the control key moved by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      looks at his brand new keytronic, looks at his 1992 model M...

      what the hell are you blathering about

  26. Toshiba introduces the Cortana button !!!!! by nickweller · · Score: 1

    You know, it's stories like this is what keeps me coming back to the Internet's pre-eminent tech site.

  27. Cortana "dis"sed by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortana is still a disambiguation page...

  28. Re:Thank you captain obvious by jrumney · · Score: 4, Funny

    If it was Google who wrote Windows, we would have hit Windows 95 back in the 1980s.

    The Google Windows 95 beta was discontinued in 1986 after too many people came to rely on it for their daily work.

  29. Re:Um, Nope by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    You probably mean Windows+Break (bring up system information).

    Windows+Pause (when Shift key is held among Win and Break) does nothing.

  30. Re:Thank you captain obvious by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    ArcadeMan, the Al Lowe of Slashdot.

  31. What's the windows key good for? by geekprime · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a list of what it's good for, from ms's webiste and reformatted somewhat...
    YOU may not use these functions but they exist and I'll bet that a couple of them will be useful to you, but just a couple. ;)

    Windows key+Tab
    Cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D

    Ctrl+Windows+Tab
    Use the arrow keys to cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D

    Windows logo key
    Open or close the Start menu.

    Windows key +Pause
    Display the System Properties dialog box.

    Windows key +D
    Display the desktop.

    Windows key +M
    Minimize all windows.

    Windows key +Shift+M
    Restore minimized windows to the desktop.

    Windows key +E
    Open Computer.

    Windows key +F
    Search for a file or folder.

    Ctrl+Windows key +F
    Search for computers (if you're on a network).

    Windows key +L
    Lock your computer or switch users.

    Windows key +R
    Open the Run dialog box.

    Windows key +T
    Cycle through programs on the taskbar.

    Windows key+number
    Start the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number. If the program is already running, switch to that program.

    Shift+Windows key+number
    Start a new instance of the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

    Ctrl+Windows key+number
    Switch to the last active window of the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

    Alt+Windows key+number
    Open the Jump List for the program pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

    Windows key +Tab
    Cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D.

    Ctrl+Windows key +Tab
    Use the arrow keys to cycle through programs on the taskbar by using Aero Flip 3-D.

    Ctrl+Windows key +B
    Switch to the program that displayed a message in the notification area.

    Windows key +Spacebar
    Preview the desktop.

    Windows key +Up Arrow
    Maximize the window.

    Windows key +Left Arrow
    Maximize the window to the left side of the screen.

    Windows key +Right Arrow
    Maximize the window to the right side of the screen.

    Windows key +Down Arrow
    Minimize the window.

    Windows key +Home
    Minimize all but the active window.

    Windows key +Shift+Up Arrow
    Stretch the window to the top and bottom of the screen.

    Windows key +Shift+Left Arrow or Right Arrow
    Move a window from one monitor to another.

    Windows key +P
    Choose a presentation display mode.

    Windows key +G
    Cycle through gadgets.

    Windows key +U
    Open Ease of Access Center.

    Windows key +X
    Open Windows Mobility Center.

    1. Re:What's the windows key good for? by vandamme · · Score: 1

      Cool, most of those work on Linux Mint too.

      Oh well, back to real work.

  32. Re:Um, Nope by bazorg · · Score: 1

    There's always the mouse, but I think you're missing out on some useful shortcuts.

    https://support.microsoft.com/...

    I find the Windows Logo + cursor keys particularly useful.

  33. Another ad: Cortana from the morgue, or just Borg? by D4C5CE · · Score: 1
    As someone astutely observed with respect to the picture of Clippy 2.0:

    http://www.heise.de/forum/heis...

    I thought we'd all suffered enough advertising on our keyboards since 1995 already?
    Thankfully the glorious Model M remains unbreakable and unaffected... ;-)

  34. Fail by backslashdot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you need to press something to activate voice control, it has already failed.

  35. Microsoft Innovation Survival Kit by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    MICROSOFT INNOVATION SURVIVAL KIT
    ONLY BREAK SEAL IN CASE OF EMERGENCY

    Contents of Packet A: New Keyboard button.
    Contents of Packet B: New Mouse button.
    Contents of Packet C: New Assistant with Mechanical Voice.
    Also included: Start Button removal tool, 10-pack of various Wizards (from1997, dehydrated), Clippy spray.

    Customers who purchased this also bought:
    Apple Innovation Survival Kit

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    1. Re:Microsoft Innovation Survival Kit by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      What, no happy face Microsoft Bob button?

  36. Re:Um, Nope by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    Hmm, apparently the key actually isn't dual-function but it only has two names.

  37. A very educational article by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    A very educational article. By reading it I learned that Onuora Amobi is another one to add to the long list of people I think are utter fucking idiots.

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  38. Re:ply from MISK Customer Service by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    What, no happy face Microsoft Bob button?

    Microsoft Bob and and Jimmy Hoffa have left us by similar means, one digital and one analog, I'm afraid, but we were able to incorporate Bob's essence --- the packaging material of the Kit is comprised of 100% recycled encrypted Bob! . While we strive to include at least "a Bob's worth in every Kit"... due to variations in manufacture and settling part of him is missing or arrived too late, so you'll need to purchase five or more kits to ensure you have a whole Bob.

    The decryption key for Bob was not provided to us, but there are rumors that the Russians and Chinese have cracked it and a reconstituted corrupted version of Microsoft Bob was used to infiltrate the Office of Personnel Management.

    If your package has been tampered with or Microsoft Bob is smoking a pipe... you have "weaponized Bob", and your product has been contaminated by Slack from this divine pre-Windows entity. Please return the product for a full and cutaneous refund.

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  39. One more reason... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    ....to keep my Cherry keyboard from the 90s. It is not OS dependent and does not have these extra buttons that just get in the way. That Cortana button seems to be tucked into the upper corner, I wish keyboard manufacturers would do the same with these dumb Windows keys. They constantly get in the way and really serve little purpose with Windows not being that easy to use purely with keyboard navigation.