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Privacy Advocates Leave In Protest Over U.S. Facial Recognition Code of Conduct

Taco Cowboy writes: Nine privacy advocates involved in the Commerce Department process for developing a voluntary code of conduct for the use of facial recognition technology withdrew in protest over technology industry lobbyists' overwhelming influence on the process. "At a base minimum, people should be able to walk down a public street without fear that companies they've never heard of are tracking their every movement — and identifying them by name — using facial recognition technology," the privacy advocates wrote in a joint statement. "Unfortunately, we have been unable to obtain agreement even with that basic, specific premise." The Commerce Department, through its National Telecommunications and Information Administration, brought together "representatives from technology companies, trade groups, consumer groups, academic institutions and other organizations" early last year "to kick off an effort to craft privacy safeguards for the commercial use of facial recognition technology."

The goal was "to develop a voluntary, enforceable code of conduct that specifies how the Consumer Privacy Bill of Rights applies to facial recognition technology in the commercial context." But after a dozen meetings, the most recent of which was last week, all nine privacy advocates who have participated in the entire process concluded that they were thoroughly outgunned. "This should be a wake-up call to Americans: Industry lobbyists are choking off Washington's ability to protect consumer privacy," Alvaro Bedoya, executive director of the Center on Privacy & Technology at Georgetown Law, said in a statement. "People simply do not expect companies they've never heard of to secretly track them using this powerful technology. Despite all of this, industry associations have pushed for a world where companies can use facial recognition on you whenever they want — no matter what you say. This position is well outside the mainstream."

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  1. I'm perfectly fine with this... by Type44Q · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm perfectly fine with this, as long as their right to point their omnipresent cameras at me is balanced by my right (codified into law, of course) to point a fucking shotgun at said cameras as well as their sickening fucking heads.

    1. Re:I'm perfectly fine with this... by Type44Q · · Score: 2
      Funny that both [rather unimpressive] responses were posted by AC's... but to break it down for the especially limited:

      The words "codified into law" clearly demonstrate my awareness of exactly how much freedom the 2nd Amendment doesn't give us... but thanks for playing! ;)

    2. Re:I'm perfectly fine with this... by techno-vampire · · Score: 2

      Well, no, legalising the blasting of such people with a shotgun would probably be a very effective way to protect the privacy rights of those who don't want the cameras on them.

      I'd have no problem with that, provided that it was limited to practicing politicians who needed killing.

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  2. Re:Congratulations... by Travis+Mansbridge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think their point is that they would have had zero say in the outcome anyway, and this way the public can be aware of that.

  3. Government does it by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    There has been a major push to get basically every security camera in downtown DC networked into the government systems. It's sold as a why-wouldn't-you-want-this measure, and IIRC almost everyone has signed on.

    1. Re:Government does it by Shoten · · Score: 2

      There has been a major push to get basically every security camera in downtown DC networked into the government systems. It's sold as a why-wouldn't-you-want-this measure, and IIRC almost everyone has signed on.

      You're a bit late in your assessment of this, and also a bit incorrect...but unfortunately, not in a way that makes it any less bad.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

      There's already a remarkable network of such cameras; what's left now is that more and more government agencies (because they are run separately, and have different needs and goals) are asking to drink from the data fountain they provide. There's no singular push on behalf of "the government systems," there are multiple efforts, each with their own intentions, on behalf of each specific agency that wants the data. And major cities (like New York) that have similar networks of city-run cameras are all getting the same requests, since there's nothing really special about one city or another that exempts it from the aims of such agencies.

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  4. Dazzle by PvtVoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We'll see if CV Dazzle becomes fashionable.

  5. Re:Congratulations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, given the laws that may pass, the public will have no option but to wear burkas, ski masks or gas masks on public streets.

  6. Ban Memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    At a base minimum, people should be able to walk down a public street without fear that companies they've never heard of are tracking their every movement — and identifying them by name — using their employees eyes and ears. When I walk up to a receptionist he/she better ask for my id. And how dare that fast food employee remember my normal order. Big Brother is here.

    1. Re:Ban Memories by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative
      Oh, maybe you should read the article. It's not about the receptionist knowing you or the fast food employee remembering your order. Because a) both work for companies you have a contract with and b) they don't sell this information for profit to someone else.

      This was about companies not having to enter a contract with you to identify you and sell that information, which the privacy advocates couldn't agree with.

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    2. Re:Ban Memories by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      Its about scale. Its the same reason why a cop following a person is legal, but warrant-less GPS tracking isnt.

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  7. Doomed from the start by Nutria · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The goal was "to develop a voluntary, enforceable code of conduct

    Because they work for/with the government, those privacy advocates are -- by definition -- adults. Yet they are so fucking naive as to make me wonder whether or not they are mentally retarded.

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    1. Re:Doomed from the start by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's not retarded, it's a reasonable way to get something in place without spending years or decades trying to get a law on the books. It's a good way to put some limits in place early on, to shape the way the technology will normally be used and establish good practices.

      Agreeing to abide by the code would be voluntary, but if you agree then you also agree to enforcement and presumably sanctions if you violate it. The hope would be that it becomes something consumers demand companies sign up to before doing business with them, and those that refuse are publicly shamed.

      In the long run laws are needed, but this was a reasonable way to get a first agreement in place at an early stage.

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  8. develop a voluntary, enforceable code of conduct by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    yeah, right.

  9. different approach by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe they could object by pointing out that various congress critters have a habit of being seen (and now recognized) with women other than their wives in locations other than their offices. That might strike closer to home for some of them. Just a thought.

  10. Re:Congratulations... by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well by pulling out, they are also drastically reducing (some say by ~95%) the chance they will be held accountable for whatever deformed, mutated creature results from this unholy union.

    I imagine they didn't want to be on the hook for the next 20 odd years for something they really had no control over in the first place? Sure it's 'voluntary' and 'enforceable', but sometimes people just say things like that as a lure. When really, they have completely contrary ulterior motives.

    Gold digging special interest groups, the lot of them.

  11. Privacy won't occur until... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Privacy in your video rentals was not a reality until some Congress critter's rental history was obtained and made public.

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    Privacy in cell phone communications was not commonplace until some Congress critter's cell phone calls were taped and made public.

    Privacy in facial recognition will not become a reality until some Congress critter is caught and embarrassed via the use of facial recognition.

    Congress does not care about privacy until they are the victims of the lack of it.

    1. Re:Privacy won't occur until... by houghi · · Score: 2

      Privacy in cell phone communications? Is this a repost from the 90-ies when we thought that Echelon was just a weird dream of people with tin-foil hats?

      And no, it will not stop. It will get much, much, much worse, bercause people do not comprehand that privacy is such a basic right that it was taken for granted when writing the US constitution. Without privacy, the rest is meaningless.

      People are giving away their privacy for fake 'likes'. People do not understand that once you give it away, you can't get it back. And not only do you give yours away, you give away that of everybody else as well.

      Congress does not care, because we do not care.

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  12. CEOs by humptheElephant · · Score: 3, Informative

    People should make sure the CEOs of these companies that track you are in the database. Then follow them, photograph them and post it on google maps with date and time.

  13. Re:Congratulations... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    ex: Canada
    After several high profile protests, the Canadian Parliament introduced Bill C-309, which bans the wearing of masks during a riot or other unlawful assembly. The bill became law on June 19, 2013. Those convicted of it face up to 10 years in prison.

    Now, what is "unlawful assembly"? Anything the government fucking wants.

  14. Bank Tellers knew my face and name... by Flyskippy1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Haven't people been complaining for decades that businesses don't recognize them anymore? There has often been nostalgia for a time when people were recognized by name when they walked into their bank.

    Wouldn't this just be reviving the "Good Olde Days", at least for small town America? Or is facial recognition only okay when done by a MeatCreature?

    1. Re:Bank Tellers knew my face and name... by KitFox · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps the difference in this case is that that example involves the person having a business relationship with the bank and interacting with the teller, voluntarily giving their name for the person to connect to the face.

      What is being considered and fretted over here are such events as the following lovely bit of near-future (possibly not) fiction...

      It was a lovely day as Jack Smith strolled down the street. He glanced at the sign on the bus stop as he passed by and the sign, recognizing who he was, displayed advertisements for fresh strawberries at Hole Dudes Market. He never shopped there, but he did buy strawberries at Wallyworld every Monday, so they knew.

      There was a buzz from his smartwatch and he glanced at his wrist. WatchU sent email informing him that the bus he normally took had broken down on the interstate and he should turn left at the next light to grab a different bus. It would only make him get to work ten minutes late instead of thirty. Oh, and they'd already emailed his boss to let them know he'd be late. Wait... Who was WatchU? He'd never signed up for such a service. Besides, he was taking a day off today and heading somewhere completely different. Why did they email his boss? Well, because they knew.

      Shrugging the thought aside, he tried to enjoy the day. Thinking about strawberries, his mouth started to water, so he headed into Samba Juice for a smoothie. It was a new establishment that he'd never been in before, so he wanted to see how it stacked up against other places.

      "Hi Mr Smith!" the cashier said as he approached her, taking the cue from her register. "Would you like a Strawberry Stratosphere in mega-size today?"

      "Um, sure," he said. He looked at her, unable to place her, and finally curiosity overcame him. "Do I know you?"

      "Oh, we know all our customers, even if they are brand new," she exclaimed. "We're tied in to the system. Working a few bugs out though." She looked at the screen and blushed. "Oh, and a coupon popped up. When you head back to the Lover's Lace escort services, ask for Margarette. You'll get a discount on all personal services." They knew.

      Jack winced at that and mumbled thanks, then headed to wait awkwardly for his smoothie. The cups had advertisements printed on them based on marketing data for the customers, and he was shocked to see a code to scan on his phone for half off bulk adult diapers. That was insulting! Why did they think he needed such a thing?! Ah... right... because the camera had seen him unloading a truck while volunteering at a retirement home. They knew.

      So yes... Meat popsicles have limits on who and what they know and know about who. This system, as people want it, will have no limits.

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  15. Re:Congratulations... by Jawnn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By pulling out of the process, they're basically ensuring they will have zero say in the outcome.

    Not quite. They're finally recognizing the plain fact that in the United States today, if a "corporate citizen" wants something badly enough, they get it, and the little people can go fuck themselves.
    Is this a great country, or what? /s

  16. You're missing the bigger point by tekrat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Identity theft will now include your face. I for one, intend to wear my motorcycle helmet 24/7 and call myself "The Stig".

    It should be noted that when facebook started their facial recognition stuff, I uploaded dozens of photos of Mark Zuckerberg to my profile, and identified them as me. Facebook still has no idea what I look like.

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  17. Re:First they need an exemplar by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Everyone has family and friends. A percentage of those use social media. And in that percentage, most will think you're joking or a conspiracy nut if you ask them not to put photos of yourself online and will do it anyway.

    Then there's cameras everywhere that can still "know" you until they can match with absolute certainty that you are Mr.X by checking purchases with credit/debit cards when you're the only one around, etc.

  18. "Corporations Are Ppl" by Anna+Merikin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If corporations are people as the US Supreme Court and former candidate for President Mitt Romney have said, then they are obviously people who can ignore laws and customs they don't like. If a human person were to use facial recognition on a widespread scale to follow the public movements of and to gain personal information about another individual, they would run afoul of several anti-stalking measures, at least.

    Not so for our corporate ubermenschen

    1. Re: "Corporations Are Ppl" by Immerman · · Score: 3

      Who said anything about money? I'd approve of 24/7 politician bodycams for the simple reason that they're MY employees, and it's widely recognized, if difficult to prove, that many/most are engaging in rampant corruption and abuse of power. If it was known that department store employees were engaging in widespread shoplifting it would be generally considered reasonable to engage in surveillance of them whenever in "sensitive" areas, why should politicians be held to lower standards when we grant them unequaled power over our society?

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  19. Re:Congratulations... by sjames · · Score: 2

    I said believably. That's hard when it is known that 100% of the privacy advocates declared the process broken beyond repair and walked away.