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Wi-Fi Router's 'Pregnant Women' Setting Sparks Vendor Rivalry In China

colinneagle writes: When one Chinese technology vendor, Qihoo, launched a new Wi-Fi router with a safety setting for "pregnant women," a rival vendor took offense to the implication that their routers might be dangerous. Xiamo, which also sells Wi-Fi routers, took to its page on Chinese social media site Weibo to denounce Qihoo's pregnant women mode as a "marketing tactic," and clarify that "Wi-Fi usage is safe."

Zhou Hongyi, chief executive and president of Qihoo, acknowledged in a statement to the South China Morning Post that there is no evidence supporting claims that Wi-Fi routers pose a risk for birth defects. But he said the company is appealing to consumers' beliefs, whether they are supported by science or not.

"We are targeting people who are afraid of radiation," Hongyi said. "We aren't scientists. We haven't done many experiments to prove how much damage the radiation from Wi-Fi can cause. We leave the right of choice to our customers."

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  1. Illogical by MSG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We aren't scientists. We haven't done many experiments to prove how much damage the radiation from Wi-Fi can cause."

    If you haven't done any experiments to prove how much damage WiFi can cause, then how do you know that your APs are safe?

    1. Re:Illogical by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      He knows because their routers have a "pregnant women" setting. Didn't you read the article?

    2. Re:Illogical by erice · · Score: 4, Informative

      "We aren't scientists. We haven't done many experiments to prove how much damage the radiation from Wi-Fi can cause."

      If you haven't done any experiments to prove how much damage WiFi can cause, then how do you know that your APs are safe?

      More precisely: even if you accept that WiFi damages unborn children, how can you be sure that "pregnant women mode" reduces the danger in any meaningful way if you have not done any experiments?

    3. Re:Illogical by Drewdad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Insert obligatory dihydrogen monoxide reference.

    4. Re:Illogical by suutar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He doesn't. He's appealing to beliefs, whether supported by science or not - first, the belief that wifi radiation can be dangerous, and second, the belief that his widget is safer than the competition.

    5. Re:Illogical by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      He doesn't. He's appealing to beliefs, whether supported by science or not - first, the belief that wifi radiation can be dangerous, and second, the belief that his widget is safer than the competition.

      I'd say the competitor has poor marketing.

      With that "pregnant woman" setting, I'd go and say "My router is much safer than theirs. Theirs emits dangerous wifi - so dangerous they have to put in a pregnant woman setting to prevent their wifi from hurting your unborn child. Our wifi doesn't need that setting as it's inherently safer and won't hurt your unborn child!"

      After all, it can go either way - either admit their setting is better. or trash their setting as evidence they need it, while yours doesn't.

  2. Not What I Thought It Meant by ranton · · Score: 5, Funny

    I originally thought the warning meant pregnant women are dangerous.

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  3. The blue LEDs on the front of the router emit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...more and higher energy radiation than the wireless LAN antennas. Just FYI.

  4. It just makes the router worse. by jandrese · · Score: 3, Informative

    The description makes it sound like they just cut the Tx power on the router by two thirds when you enable the mode, which means it will just have a much shorter range. Even better: This would only help if the woman stayed near the router, she's going to get a lot more "radiation" from her laptop, since it has a similar radio and of course is much closer to her. Even if the science were sound, this wouldn't work. It's both dumb and pointless.

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  5. marketing by zlives · · Score: 2

    Xiamo should have just put an add that the "Pregnant setting" is for pussies.... o wait

  6. Me Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Me make router, make sure baby not look like flounder.

  7. Qihoo is dangerous! by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Qihoo router normally emits dangerous-sounding em radiation, by default. Best to avoid their routers, but if you're stuck with them be sure to enable the safe mode. Other companies' routers always run in safe mode, which is why they don't have that setting.

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  8. This router big rip off! by RevWaldo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hold up to wife's belly one full month! Still no baby!

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    1. Re:This router big rip off! by zlives · · Score: 4, Funny

      you are holding it wrong!!!

  9. What about fan death? by LightStruk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Stories like this make me wonder if anyone in Korea refuses to use a desktop or laptop because they have fans in them.

  10. Re:Won't someone think of the children? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    wish they'd make a router with 'epilepsy' mode, where it dims/disables all front lights. I mean short of the electrical tape option of course.

  11. Actually it increases the power by rhysweatherley · · Score: 2

    The power is actually increased, not decreased, by the pregnancy mode. This is to penetrate the womb and let the child surf the net to find a new set of parents to adopt them once born. New parents that aren't afraid of technology.

    1. Re:Actually it increases the power by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      I'm adding that to the list of superpowers I want.

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  12. Asbestos by Cigaes · · Score: 2

    The real question is: is there asbestos in their router?

  13. Re:Wi-Fi is for Luddites. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, appers app YOU!

    I'm not a script, da.

  14. Re:Placebo effect? by Flavianoep · · Score: 2

    He is still waiting for the Q2 sales figures to assess the effects of 'Pregnant Women' mode.

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  15. If they're really worried about radiation by satsuke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If someone is really worried about radiation from wifi, they'd be well advised to not have _any_ wifi devices in the home, if not actually living some large distance from anyone else with same devices.

    They'd also want to avoid cell phones too..

    Actually, such a person would just become a hermit.

  16. Re:For sale: Tiger-repelling rock by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Funny

    people will be able to buy Holy Tiger-Repelling Rocks!

    Buying holy items within a repressive communist government area? Check

    Making the "tiger rock" joke about a country that has at least two variants of tiger? Check

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  17. I own a qihoo router by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    as a qihoo wireless model 32 router owner I can say this is being completely blown out of proportion. my router has 6 very clearly labeled settings besides 'pregnant woman' mode and the article mentions nothing about them. Qihoo users like myself typically prefer to keep the router in 'surly wombat' mode to ensure best communication with devices that may be situated between an agitated or unruly wombat (as mine typically can be.) When i have company over I might set the router on 'roger whittaker' mode, which enables it to automatically emit up to 44 different songs from mellow folk sensation Roger Wittaker. You can even control time of day with different settings...for example around dinnertime ill set the router to 'defrost-reheat' which increases power levels accordingly and allows me to thaw and cook up to 15 pounds of turkey in my living room. And i challenge anyone to find a better mode than 'depeche' mode, which activates both gloomy QoS and tortured soul packet conditioning.

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  18. Technically all APs have a 'pregnant women' mode.. by kheldan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ..and it's activated by turning the power switch to 'Off'.

    If it really worries you that much then unplug the damned thing from the wall, along with turning off your cellphone, and any other RF-enabled devices you may have. Toss your microwave oven into the trash. While you're at it line the walls, floors, and ceiling with aluminum foil (don't forget the door!) and ground it to a solid earth ground, forming a Faraday cage. Be sure to have 9 month supply of food and water on hand.

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  19. Call it "nice neighbor mode" by davidwr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or maybe "small apartment mode."

    If I could, I would configure my WiFi router to be smart about its transmit power:

    I would have a "low power" mode on the router so it could be "seen" within a relatively small radius, but it would increase power as needed to stay connected to a device once that device authenticated. Once all authenticated connections went out of range or disconnected, it would drop back to "low power" mode.

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  20. Basically WiFi with Sabbath mode then? by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

    There's no scientific evidence to support that lighting a stove on Saturday for use on Sunday is better for the soul, or that having the light come on in the refrigerator when I open it Monday through Saturday is fine, but distracts me from god on Sunday. There are a lot of people that believe those things, so the manufacturer accommodates them.

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