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Pass the Doritos, Scientists Develop Computer Game Targeted At Healthy Choices

MojoKid writes: Psychologists at the University of Exeter and Cardiff University have published a study that demonstrates how a simple computer game can help people lose weight. Participants in the study who played the specialized game lost and average of 1.5 pounds in the first seven days, and 4.5 pounds after six months. They also reduced their daily caloric consumption by 220 calories. Dr. Natalia Lawrence led the team of researchers that developed the computer game for the study. It was designed to train people to resist unhealthy food snack foods through a "stop versus go" process. Participants sat in front of a Pentium 3 PC running Matlab software on a 17-inch monitor. They were then instructed to press certain keys when images of things like fruits and clothes would appear, indicating a "go." But for images of calorie-dense foods (chips and cake, for example) they were instructed not to do anything, indicating a "stop" action.

81 comments

  1. Redundant by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 5, Funny

    I believe we already had that game. I distinctly remember, the cake is a lie.

    1. Re:Redundant by witherstaff · · Score: 1

      Any of those slightly older (~2000? ) body positioning arcade games where you had to physically squat to reload got exhausting. At the time I thought a gym formed around those games would be worth joining just to save on quarters.

    2. Re:Redundant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, no, you squat to *un*load! Sheesh!

  2. Doritos are over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently discovered Ruffles with sour cream and cheddar flavor. Heavenly snack!

  3. Ugh... by zugmeister · · Score: 3, Funny

    Worst. Video. Game. Ever!

    1. Re:Ugh... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      It makes me so depressed... I'm going to get a big dish of ice cream.

    2. Re:Ugh... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Not until Ewe Boll turns it into a movie.

    3. Re:Ugh... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      What is worse is that they think it is a good idea to train people like animals. I mean, yeah, we *are* animals but I thought we were sort of moving past the idea of training them in some circles? Next they will want to chain us up and make us do work like elephants or programmers or something.

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    4. Re:Ugh... by wardrich86 · · Score: 1

      This would make for an interesting case study: Can Uwe Boll actually make a movie more boring that the world's lamest video game?

  4. The fascination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... Pentium 3 PC running Matlab software on a 17-inch monitor.

    What's the fascination with the hardware? The fact they're using Matlab to present a slideshow is a unique circumstance. The fact they're using a computer with more power than needed to perform the slideshow isn't. It might be more interesting to know why the researchers are using such old technology.

    ... they were instructed not to do anything ...

    The subjects were given aversion therapy which they transferred to their eating activities. That's the news; that and the needed hardware exists in a modern home. That's nerd-ish enough. We don't need to obsess over the tools so much; in particular when that is old news.

    1. Re:The fascination by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      "that and the needed hardware exists in a modern home"

      dunno, I am a old computer nerd and I would have to dig to find a windows 98 box

    2. Re:The fascination by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I dunno either, but my main home server is a PIII, running primary dns, dhcp, smtp and a few other services, and average load in the 0.01 range. It's been running pretty much non-stop since 2003.

      There's really no need to upgrade just to upgrade, if the box can do its job without breaking a sweat and can be kept patched up to date.

      If PIII machines were available and could run the software, why not?

    3. Re:The fascination by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      You could probably replace your old P3 by a Raspberry Pi and lower the power required for your server a hundredfold. And with the power required by a P3 and the cost of the Raspberry Pi, it would probably only take a few months to pay for itself.

    4. Re:The fascination by arth1 · · Score: 2

      I don't think you're aware of just how power frugal the PIII is. The TDP is 27.9W, which is far less than most laptop CPUs burn these days. And given that the average load is in the 0.01 range, it uses far less. It has run fanless since 2003. Energy is not the issue here.

      But a point is the reliability of larger die fabs. Can a Raspberry Pi be reasonably expected to run for 10+ years?
      Also, the Pi comes with a single 10/100 Ethernet port, running on a CPU-bottlenecked USB 2.0 bus. Just dealing with a normal amount of packets puts a considerable load on the SoC CPU. And no running backups or NFS mounts at GbE speeds.

      Don't get me wrong, the Pi was a fabulous little board, but it was never designed for 24/7 network related operations.
      And it's certainly not a replacement for a system that doesn't need replacement.

  5. What's in a name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why is it called "Pass the Doritos"?

    Because "Spot the Fruit" would have been misunderstood.

  6. Calories? by msauve · · Score: 1

    "things like fruits and clothes"

    How many calories in a pound of cotton?

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    1. Re:Calories? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      How many calories in a pound of cotton?

      In a pound I do not know, but in 100g I would say around 500 kcal that a human cannot absorb.

    2. Re:Calories? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many calories in a pound of cotton?

      Quite a lot. Cotton is about 90% cellulose. Cellulose is a polymer of glucose. Humans can't digest cellulose, but other animals can. Humans can burn the cotton to release the calories however.

    3. Re:Calories? by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      You are just angry because you did not get the +1 funny mod points you expected to deserve.

    4. Re:Calories? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Projection at its most ham-fisted.

    5. Re:Calories? by Sique · · Score: 1

      Calories measure only the physiologically available energy, thus the calorie intake from cotton is essentially zero.

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    6. Re:Calories? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The conversion factor used in determining the caloric value of foods (from its constituent parts) was determined by drying them out, putting them in a little furnace and setting them on fire. I only wish I were making this up. But it just made me think, if you set the cotton on fire... etc etc

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    7. Re:Calories? by stoned_ritual · · Score: 1

      Does hamfist get a stop action or a go action?

  7. Best video game for losing weight is ... by DogDude · · Score: 2

    ... no video game at all. Put down the gadget and move your body.

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    1. Re:Best video game for losing weight is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... no video game at all. Put down the gadget and move your body.

      Perhaps that's the secret reason for the game's success. People find it so bad that they stop using the computer and go do something else.

    2. Re:Best video game for losing weight is ... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Put down the gadget and move your body.

      Clearly, you've never watched me play video games. My wife says watching me play makes her tired.

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    3. Re:Best video game for losing weight is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes hours and hours of exercise to burn an overindulgence at the table that takes only a few minutes. Healthier choices at the table are results/time better for most people.

    4. Re:Best video game for losing weight is ... by Jesrad · · Score: 1

      "Moving" does not trigger any kind of fat loss. Only stimulating lipolysis can.

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  8. That is not a game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is therapy. Just because it is graphics on a computer screen does not make it a game.

  9. Because WOMEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Another feeble attempt from the SJW crowd trying to showcase "scientists" conducting "research".

    The article is worthless, they don't even say how many subjects were used, and a 4.5 weight loss in six months is nothing. But the important thing is that "THE LEAD SCIENTIST HAS A VAGINA !!!

    1. Re:Because WOMEN by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 0

      You've never experienced the touch of a woman other than your mother, have you?

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    2. Re:Because WOMEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Happily married for over thirty years. Two of my three daughters graduated from college with STEM degrees (third daughter has a BA degree). All are working full time. Sorry your prejudices don't fit me, but this is a poorly written article about a psychology student's non-scientific experiment.

    3. Re:Because WOMEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no, his prejudices fit you just fine. You are male and likely white, therefore you (and he, I am nearly certian) are evil.

    4. Re:Because WOMEN by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Happily married for over thirty years. Two of my three daughters graduated from college with STEM degrees (third daughter has a BA degree). All are working full time. Sorry your prejudices don't fit me, but this is a poorly written article about a psychology student's non-scientific experiment.

      Being married and having children does not prevent you from being a right wing misogynist, which the use of "SJW" in your original post indicates is the case.

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  10. That game sucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time for Doritos and league of legends! Fools!

  11. That's nuthin by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    4-5 lbs over 6 months? Jeez, I typically gain 20 lbs over the winter, then lose it over the summer. Winter has Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas, plus rain and crappy weather. Summer has nice bike-riding days.

    1. Re:That's nuthin by rossdee · · Score: 1

      "I typically gain 20 lbs over the winter, then lose it over the summer"

      I spose it depends where you live.

      " plus rain and crappy weather."

      Here it doesn't rain in the winter, its too cold for that.
      I'd much rather be outside in the winter time, with a temperature of below 255K than in the summer when its above 300 and 100% humidity

    2. Re:That's nuthin by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      You get 100% humidity, eh? You swim to work?

    3. Re:That's nuthin by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Want faster weight loss add an electric shock to the game ie munching game, eat the healthy food and avoid the bad food, accidentally eat the bad food and not only lose points but get an electric shock. Where you attack those electrodes, your choice but repeated painful negative reinforcement will guarantee pretty fast weight loss and a healthier diet. Of course it might cause public problems if people start screaming when they walk past a cake shop.

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    4. Re:That's nuthin by donscarletti · · Score: 1

      100% humidity is where the partial pressure of water vapor in the air is too high for any more water to be suspended in the air. This is when water does not evaporate so sweating ceases to make you any cooler. It does not mean that there is more water around you than air. Water in a liquid state does not count as humidity anyway.

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    5. Re:That's nuthin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is Slashdot, I'm hoping everyone knows what 100% humidity means. Also, woosh is the sound that can be heard when someone doesn't get a joke.

    6. Re:That's nuthin by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      When I find the pounds creeping back on (like they have been recently), I use an app called MyFitnessPal to record the food I'm eating and watch my caloric intake. This keeps me honest and usually results in at least and average of 1 pound per week weight loss. Add in exercise - which MyFitnessPal also records - and it's even more. Over 6 months, I'd lose about 26 pounds, not the 4 or 5 that this game is claiming.

      Put the game down, watch the food you're consuming, and get your body moving. You'll shed a lot more than 8 to 10 pounds per year.

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    7. Re:That's nuthin by sjames · · Score: 1

      It sure feels like it, only the water is body temperature or above.

  12. Scott Adams did it first: by arielCo · · Score: 2
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  13. Bacon GO/STOP? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    So is calorie-dense bacon a GO or a STOP? Everything hinges on the answer to that.

    1. Re:Bacon GO/STOP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... calorie-dense bacon ...

      Here's the peak of calorie-dense bacon: www.baconcandy.com/

      "All you Jews, Hindus and Muslims are mistaken. Cause God invented crispy bacon." - Kitty Flanagan

  14. How old is this 'news'? by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pentium 3? 17 inch monitor? How long ago did this happen?
    News for nerds, stuff from last decade.

    1. Re:How old is this 'news'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Date: 26 June 2015

      Source - U. Exeter

    2. Re:How old is this 'news'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like it's old enough maybe they just copypasta'd Epcot's Habit Heroes original games, before complaints made Disney dump them?

    3. Re:How old is this 'news'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's very old, ucsd researchers have been using this for a while and it shows up in lumosity.

  15. The numbers don't make sense by LetterRip · · Score: 1

    At 220 calories per day deficit over 6 months they would lose about 11 lbs of fat.

    6*220*30/3500 = 11.3

    At 220 calories deficit over 7 days, they would lose .4 lbs of fat.

    220*7/3500 = .4

    So the 1.5 lbs doesn't make sense (in reality they probably just depleted their glucose storage a little bit which lost a 1+ of water weight).

  16. Fuck this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck your manipulation and your global warming conspiracy theories.

  17. Weirdly specific detail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone else find it weirdly specific that they told us what the processor is on these machines?

    1. Re:Weirdly specific detail. by MightyDrunken · · Score: 1

      I guess it is important to the results. We need the experiment repeated on a range of hardware to see if it effects the results.

  18. Dance Dance Revolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you play DDR every day, you'll lose a lot more than 4.5 pounds in 6 months.

  19. Cheat code: by Snufu · · Score: 1

    Eat the clothes and wear the fruit.

  20. Link to the Original Study by anachronous+diehard · · Score: 1

    OP links only to a popular article, which does not reference the original study. Here is the full text of Lawrence NS, Verbruggen F, Morrison S, Adams RC, Chambers CD (2015). Stopping to food can reduce intake. Effects of stimulus-specificity and individual differences in dietary restraint. Appetite, 85, 91-103.: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195666314005194.

    Yes, they used ancient equipment, without explaining why (although that would be irrelevant in a neuroscience paper). Perhaps a Matlab script on a second-hand machine makes for an easily-configured (by experimental psychologists) appliance for various "see an image and type a response" tests. If it is user friendly, the psych lab won't throw it out until they can't load images onto it (no more 5.25" floppies, zip disks, token ring network, etc.).

  21. Oh, great... by Kazoo+the+Clown · · Score: 1

    So now these guys have just proved that you can affect people's preferences for junk food in a video game? Perfect plan by an ad agency ready to collect on the scheme from junk food companies. Now we'll be seeing all kinds of pro-junk-food themed video games...

  22. Prior art by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    They already have this. It's called Dance Dance Revolution. It can reach over 1500 calories burned per hour on heavy mode.

    1. Re:Prior art by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      They already have this. It's called Dance Dance Revolution. It can reach over 1500 calories burned per hour on heavy mode.

      When I'm twerking, I can get up to 1750 per hour. But let me tell you, it's not pretty.

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    2. Re:Prior art by KGIII · · Score: 2

      Twerking. I am old. I do not know what that is and I am not sure I want to Google it. I can not unsee things. I do know what DDR is. My daughter informed me. I am not going to ask her what twerking is. Well, I might if she is in front of a lot of her friends and it would embarrass her greatly. Payback and all that.

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    3. Re:Prior art by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      My main source of knowing what "twerking" is comes from the Weird Al music video for Tacky (a parody of Pharrell Williams' Happy) when Jack Black "practices his twerking moves in line at the DMV." You are totally right about there being some things you just can't unsee.

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    4. Re:Prior art by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Let me help you out: No, you do not want to find out what twerking is from your daughter. :)

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    5. Re:Prior art by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I have now gone to Google. It is nothing new it seems, we have been doing it for over 100 years. Then again, the vigor of youth has brought it to new levels.

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    6. Re:Prior art by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I have now been to Google and, well, I do not want to see Weird Al or Jack Black doing any twerking. I now have a strange urge to see Martha Stewart twerking, however. Having learned what it is and having thought about it, I should not ask my daughter what twerking is. However, if enough of her friends are around it is a fair question. ;)

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  23. Worse than that actually... by component · · Score: 1

    Your numbers make sense if 100% of the weight lost came from fat. In practice, it's hard to get results nearly that good from caloric restriction.

  24. Ummmmmm by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    If your funding is so bad that you can't afford anything newer than a P3 and a 17" CRT, I have to wonder just how good the research is that you do. Or maybe that you just don't understand how technology has changed.

    I encountered the latter in my undergrad days. I was a psych major for a time, and as is tradition they force students to participate in experiments to get free subjects. So one of them was on Internet addiction. This was in the early 2000s, while broadband was not common it was not rare either and the university was of course on a dedicated link. All the questions were around "How long are you connected to the Internet?" and "How often do you log in?" and such things.

    I tried to explain to the researcher such questions weren't meaningful to me, my computer was on all the time and I could just use it like any other program. They didn't understand, and figured I didn't understand and kept repeating the question. I tried to explain and demonstrate with their office computer. That failed though, because the thing was so slow it took the better part of a minute to launch IE, which they thought was dialing in to the Internet. For them it wasn't a seamless experience, they only used the Internet when they needed/wanted to since it was so slow. I could not communicate to them that for an ever increasing number of us, it wasn't like that, it was just a part of using a computer.

    I've encountered things like this a number of additional times with psychology/sociology/behavioral researchers. Their grasp of computer technology is so poor that their studies are extremely flawed because they don't understand the tools they are using.

    That aside, maybe this works, who knows without a link to the paper, but it seems like a more effective use of computers and dieting are the widespread calorie tracker apps. When people actually track what they take in, they often can do a much better job at preventing it from getting excessive.

    1. Re:Ummmmmm by Kohlrabi82 · · Score: 1

      I've encountered things like this a number of additional times with psychology/sociology/behavioral researchers. Their grasp of computer technology is so poor that their studies are extremely flawed because they don't understand the tools they are using.

      Yet the same people clamor about hiring practices in STEM fields, and study choices by women, without having any clear understanding how scince or technology work, themselves. Dunning-Kruger at its finest.

    2. Re:Ummmmmm by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      If your funding is so bad that you can't afford anything newer than a P3 and a 17" CRT, I have to wonder just how good the research is that you do. Or maybe that you just don't understand how technology has changed.

      What difference would it make if you had the latest hi spec gaming machine and a couple of 36" flat screen monitors to play a simple yes/no game?

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  25. As a scientist in the field. by BusyDuckman · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately the way this is presented, and the alleged hardware used makes this sound a little trite and like a silly project. I would like to say that that's probably the result of the reporting. Having flicked through the paper, IMHO this looks like a pretty interesting finding and a worthwhile bit of research.

    Paper is here. https://dl.dropboxusercontent....
    :
    Lets mention a few things:
    -Dr Lawrence has made here data available. That's something not enough people in this field have done, much to everyone's detriment.
    -"Running Matlab". probably refers to the use of Psychtoolbox(psychtoolbox.org/), rather than some clunky game coded in matlab
    -I could find no reference the the pentium 3 or 17" screen anywhere, The paper notes the participants performed the task at home (and the researchers laptop was involved for training). I suspect these specs were copied in error from another notable (but older) research paper. That said, some researches, working with emotion and images, may conduct work with x" screen that seems odd. This is done to be able to compare results with previous works (size of image and distance to image effect some experiments). Don't know if this was the case here.
    -The results of this type of simple training are quite interesting, I would point out that participants were also filling out food diary's etc, This in itself could enhance the effect of the training software,

    All said, I do have a concern though.
    The control group were given a task rating household objects rather than foods. This would have made the control group keenly aware that they were in the control group. I am curious how much of the effect was the result of "increased food consciousness" caused by reading the diaries. I would have preferred to see the control group told to 'reject foods that were imported' or something that still had them filling out food diaries for a legitimate reason.

    1. Re:As a scientist in the field. by tomhath · · Score: 1

      This article was discussed on slashdot a couple of weeks ago. It explains why Dr. Laurence's conclusions are dubious at best.

  26. erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    where's the gaem???

  27. Pavlov would be proud... by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 1

    Congratulations for rediscovering classical conditioning.

  28. Psychologists Are Not Scientists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Psychology is not a science.

    1. Re:Psychologists Are Not Scientists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh. I thought science was about being able to test hypotheses against conclusions and look for repeatable results in the data.

  29. Games who's key point is not playing a game. by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

    These are never good. In fact I think they can really not be called "games" as that sort of implies something someone does for entertainment.

    More like "interactive social experiments". These are never fun, or entertaining, and rarely useful. I include all of the "games" where the goal is to make the player feel or think something.

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  30. I found a list of cheat codes by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    Hee hee.

  31. Chex Quest did it best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Doom clone where a soulsphere was a complete breakfast.

  32. Mmmm... Clothes... by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

    They were then instructed to press certain keys when images of things like fruits and clothes would appear, indicating a "go." But for images of calorie-dense foods (chips and cake, for example) they were instructed not to do anything, indicating a "stop" action.

    It's great that I no longer want to eat chips and cake, but now I've got one hell of a craving to eat a cardigan sweater!

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