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Antineutrino Detectors Could Be Key To Monitoring Iran's Nuclear Program
agent elevator writes: Tech that analyzes antineutrinos might be the best way to keep tabs on Iran's nuclear program. The technology, which can tell how much of and what kind of plutonium and uranium are nearby, should be ready to serve as a nuclear safeguard in less than two years, according to IEEE Spectrum. In a simulation of the Arak nuclear plant, which the Iran deal requires be redesigned to make less plutonium, a detector parked outside in a shipping container could do the job.
How about we also install these in Israel, a country that has threatened to bomb its neighbors? They apparently have an extensive nuclear program that isn't inspected or regulated by the International Atomic Energy Agency.
They are also a repressive country that denies same sex couples and interracial couples the right of marriage while their kin in the legal system and media forces it on us. It is 2015 and it is time Israel joins the rest of us in it.
monitoring irans nuclear project has already been done, full stop. the only countries clammouring about the lies and deceit of the Iranian program and is utter affront to mankind are Israel and the United States. the IAEAE reports are impartial, international, and widely regarded to have the final say that Iran is not in fact developing a nuclear weapon. But for the US this doesnt matter because internationally accepted standards of monitoring and regulatory observation do not apply to it. Israel objects to a nuclear program on any level as it represents energy independence and, this is key, the ability to emerge as a regional superpower capable of selling resources to neighbouring allies. Presently Oil is the currency to which most middle east nations operate, but if Iran emerged to provide clean nuclear power it would result in many nations being able to not only free up their own oil dependencies by purchasing the resource, but lend them more power against western interests through their increased autonomy. Iran itself would find relief from perpetual sanctions by the US and allies, and in doing so cement its already rising status as a regional power player.
for the hawks, its also worth noting that Iran has already enriched to 'bombmaking' levels, and never once pursued the weapon. They did this after numerous assassinations of scientists by Israeli mossad, and a cyberattack by western security agencies. Iran is inflammatory, declaring the destruction of zionism (a form of government thats led to the palestinian apartheid, not the underlying religion of judaism) but so to is the US in calling for bombings of iran, iraq, and numerous proxy war states in the past.
finally, the reason the US wants a deal is because its ability to project power and stability in the region has been delt a crippling blow after iraq and afghanistan, a domestic housing crisis and market collapse. the US understands that, deal or not, Iran will very soon have the ability to take a far more decisive role in domestic and regional politics than Washington can effectively control. the coup-and-replace shuffle doesnt work in south america anymore, as it increasingly doesnt work in the middle east. Think of this as baby steps toward a reconcilliation. The united states has a choice: partner with regional power centers or bleed itself dry for 50 more years protecting an apartheid state and an inconsequential amount of crude oil.
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When antineutrinos are found, Iran will be sent a strongly worded letter protesting the resumption of their nuclear weapons program.
Now that Iran is going to get nukes, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to try to get them, too.
And thanks to Obumble's fecklessness with Ukraine (provoke a regime change that you know will lead to war, then run away), there isn't any country on Earth that is going to be willing to give up nukes ever again.
This isn't the Hope and Change you expected, now is it?
- Massive surveillance state
- "Extrajudicial" killings of US citizens
- Regime change in Libya that led to one of the worst failed states ever (and you thought Iraq was bad? But we can't publicized The Won's FAILURE in Libya, now can we?)
- "The JV" in control of 3/4 of Syria and 1/3 of Iraq and inspiring if not actually conducting terrorist attacks inside the US.
- Iran nuclear deal where Iran gets out from under crippling sanctions for paper promises they're going to walk away from (aka taqiya)
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Iran gets 24 days warning before any inspection and has sites that can't be inspected at all .
These short range detectors are going to help how ? All they have to do is move the material around.
Obama's straw man was the only alternative to this deal was to allow Iran getting nukes because we couldn't stop them.
We still can't stop them, but we've removed sanctions.
And isn't it nice that with Congressional approval still required, Obama's saying that if Congress disapproves the deal, Iran still gets out from under sanctions?
WHAT THE FUCK?
Did Obama just negotiate an agreement subject to Congressional approval that's still in force even if it's not approved?
What the fuck is this? Star Trek?
No, seriously, we can detect antineutrinos? From space? Warp drives and teleportation can't be far behind!
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Oh, it gets better.
We don't know if there's even a *difference* between a neutrino and an antineutrino. It may in fact be its own antiparticle.
And then there's this thing about how they each oscillate among three types.
You know what would have been even easier than trying to detect a particle we don't even know really exists?
NOT LETTING THEM BUILD A BOMB IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I mean, great job, Obama, according to your own advisers, you've given Iran a one-year path to building an atomic bomb. Maybe we should have kept the framework in place that was actually working at preventing them from building nukes?
Oh, and I note that the article claims that these "anti-neutrino" detectors could be available as soon as two years from now. Which is notably after the one-year "breakout" period Obama himself says Iran will need to finish a bomb. (The idea being that they won't be able to hide it from us over that year. You know, because that worked so well with North Korea.)
That worked out real well.
Dice are a filthy bunch of ZIONIST RACISTS who never focus on the massive arsenal of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons held by JEWISH STATE. And of course, the partnership between Jewish State and Islamic State (paralleling the partnership between the FRONTS, Israel and Saudi Arabia) is never discussed here either.
Iran stands as the LAST powerful entity opposing Jewish State and Islamic State, which is zionist organisations like Dice are so determined to see Iran taken out. Google, owned and controlled by several senior members of Jewish State, is on a TRILLION dollar mission to build robotic killing machines for the US War Machine, precisely so American sheeple can be persuaded to accept an American war against Iran.
Only BETA SHEEPLE are so thick, they NEVER question a 'rule' or 'law' only applied to one side or one group of people. Last year, for instance, Jewish State used weapon systems specifically designed to fight a World War to HOLOCAUST Gaza. 100% of the US Congress- Jewish State patsies to the last man and woman- unanimously voted to support the mass murdering war-crimes of Jewish State. And, of course, today that same bunch of politicians is supporting the destruction of Yemen by Islamic State and Jewish State (Jewish and Sunni pilots are flying day and night bombing raids, under Saudi colours, against all the major civilian infrastructure centres of Yemen).
Will YOU applaud Dice for continuing to promote Jewish State terror propaganda on this site?
No. It's virtually impossible to clean up the site to the level that the residue cannot be detected.
You don't clean the room. You remove the room. You build a room within a room if residue is an issue, you have 24 days to remove the inner contaminated materials.
Plus some residue may be within treaty rules. Allowed to produce X amount of material but you actually produce 10x. 24 days to dial the equipment back down and remove excess production.
I hate that I saw this bullshit and actually loved it.
...should be ready to serve as a nuclear safeguard in less than two years
a detector parked outside in a shipping container could do the job.
How does this really help us NOW?
Assuming that such a detector is possible, can be built, and does work, then the next problem is getting the Iranians to allow it to be emplaced and not tampered.
Also, who pays for it? Money stopped growing on trees sometime ago. As a US taxpayer, why should I have to foot the bill for something to ensure that a rogue state is playing by the rules to which they agreed?
Why are everyone against neutrinos? Why not a nice pro-neutrino detector. How about some support for our tiny mass brethren?
Nobody gives a shit about these safeguards, now get with the program and find a pretext to invade the place already.
Where in the various treaties negotiated in the recent past has a "blind trust" as you term it, been an essential part? Seriously, you'd cast out all forms of diplomacy as being too trusting, and instead prefer war? Have you ever been in a war? Have you ever seen civilians killed because they had the misfortune of living nearby a perceived threat? If you had, then I believe that you would (eventually) prefer a flawed diplomacy to what promoters of war would profess to be the perfect solution.
There are other options besides this crap deal and war. But neither Obama nor you want to talk about them, because they'd make the president look like the fool* he is.
*and that's the most generous term applicable.
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While I agree with your sentiment and facts the only thing I disagree with is "owes." The term is "owed" and that could be debated but is not important. Israel is wearing their big-boy panties and can fend for themselves. They are not owed anything any more other than respect as a nation and the sovereignty that goes with it as well as any treaty obligations. I could also argue an obligation to protect does not exist, we are not the world's police and can not afford to be, but that is immaterial.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
AC, people like you make a good argument for the Internet going back to pre-1990's era, where only Universities, the military, and the government had access to the Internet: The surest way to ruin a good thing is to get too many people involved with it.
You're not funny, you're not clever, you're not even remotely interesting, and you're not wanted. Just leave. Go take up basket weaving, or knitting, or some other handcraft, rather than spewing your verbal diarrhea all over the Internet via your keyboard.
Now, back to the actual topic-at-hand: Can these anti-neutrino detectors work from a satellite in geosynchronous orbit? If so, then why not implement them that way?
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Both Egypt and Saudi Arabia are signatories in the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). So, it would be very unlikely that either would start developing nuclear weapons now.
The general consensus is that it was a stupid move to sign for that while Israel, a neighbor and foe, did not sign the same terms.
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Iran has a sinister and evil plan. At the table, they will cast a vote recognizing they are in violation, and an outraged US will oppose its veto.