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Clinton Surrendering Email Server/Data To Feds After Top Secret Mail Found

An anonymous reader writes: Hillary Clinton's lawyer has surrendered three thumb drives with copies of emails from her server to the Justice Department, which is also where the controversial Clinton personal email server is destined as well. The FBI determined that Clinton's lawyer could no longer retain the thumb drives after two emails from a small sample were found to contain information classified as "Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information," which would also taint the server. There is no evidence that encryption was used to protect the emails. From the limited reviews to date, Secretary Clinton and her aides exchanged emails containing classified information with at least six people with private email addresses. So far four of Clinton's top aides have turned over emails to the State Department, and there are demands that six more do so. The State Department's inspector general has stated that his office is reviewing "the use of personal communications hardware and software by five secretaries of state and their immediate staffs." Current U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has stated, "it is very likely" that China and Russia are reading his emails.

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  1. What a clusterfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Republican presidential lineup this year has been a source of near endless amusement, but they have NOTHING on the Dems throwing their weight behind Hillary. She should be whiling away her time behind bars, not running for POTUS. What a fucking mess.

    1. Re:What a clusterfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Idiot. The emails were "unmarked." That means not stamped with a classification. More, they reached her on an unclassified network. Clinton had every reason to believe they contained no classified information. Indeed, the claim that they do contain classified information remains unsubstantiated.

      WHY THE FUCK WAS SHE CONDUCTING OFFICIAL STATE DEPARTMENT BUSINESS ON A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?!

    2. Re: What a clusterfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      She didn't want to carry around a second device because it's just so inconvenient. Literally her excuse. Just pathetic.

    3. Re:What a clusterfuck by JWW · · Score: 5, Informative

      It is ABSOLUTELY against federal records law for a civil servant to carry on federal business over a non-federal system. Just business, not classified business, or top secret business, ANY business.

      All e-mails containing governmental decisions need to be maintained and controlled by the government entity responsible for them.

    4. Re:What a clusterfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has got to be the most stupid fucking response I have ever seen regarding this whole email thing.

      So she avoided official servers because they are subject to FOIA requests and Congressional Subpoenas. That's exactly what you dumb shits have been saying is NOT the case.

    5. Re: What a clusterfuck by SecurityGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If carrying 2 phones to support national security is too much work, being president really isn't for you.

    6. Re:What a clusterfuck by blue9steel · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not a Republican and frankly I thought they were just muckraking till now, however if this information is correct then she is likely guilty of violating 18 U.S. Code 798 - Disclosure of classified information (if not other laws and oaths as well) and should be tried and punished appropriately. Since she's one of the elite it will likely get swept under the rug instead.

  2. move along, nothing to see by slashdice · · Score: 5, Funny

    just more of that vast right wing conspiracy's war on women.

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  3. What's a cyber? by jdharm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kerry quote from the article: "...the latest means of spying is to be going after peoples' cyber."

    I have a cyber? Where is my cyber? What does my cyber look like? How would I go about finding my cyber? Sounds like it could be fun. I wanna play with my cyber. But I have to protect my cyber so other people can't spy on my cyber. My cyber is private. Only my doctor can touch my cyber. No means no.

  4. I would expect to be arrested if I did this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Posting as AC for some degree of anonymity. Knowing what a clearance like a TS/SCI entails, her responding to, and handling classified mails, in her private mail system shows either a complete ignorance of what she took an oath to protect, or complete disregard for her oath. Either is just so troubling.

  5. There "is" no classified material on her server. by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She said so. Anybody saying anything differently is part of a vast right wing conspiracy. Unless they say "was," which is different than "is," the meaning of which depends on which Clinton you're talking to.

    It's not even about the risky, lazy handling of her official government documents, or the years she waited before turning her cherry-picked selection (no official emails sent for two months while dealing with Libya, really?) from her collection over to State as she was required to - at the very latest - as she left her office. It's about how dumb she's trying to pretend everyone is, and how phony her attempt to dismiss this is - it's about as sincere as the on-demand phony southern accent (or her Urban Church-y dialect) she uses depending how how she assesses the audience she thinks she's talking to that moment. The condescension would be galling if it weren't so transparent and (you'd think!) embarrassing. But she's so impervious to embarrassment over hypocrisy or being caught lying that it really doesn't matter at this point - she's been working on not letting that bother her since before she started putting up with Bill's abuses in Arkansas.

    I'm not sure what the DoJ thinks they're going to find on an Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind wiped server, though.Those drives are cleaner by now than the day they were manufactured.

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  6. Convenient by plazman30 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now if there was suspected classified information on anyone else's mail server, would the government wait for proof or seize the server, look through it, and then say "My bad!" and give it back to you.

    This was all done to make sure she had time to clean that server up and make it presentable, so no Clintons end in jail.

  7. Security Clearance Revocation by captain_nifty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Any normal person would have their security clearance revoked after a breech of much lesser magnitude, which interestingly makes you unable to perform a job that requires handling classified material, it's one of the few ways to actually get fired from a government job.

    Just another facet of our societies aristocracy, they are above the rules. (note this has nothing to do with party, both side get far too many free passes)

  8. For Unclassified is Fed IT diff from Corp IT? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not a Federal employee and I work in "Corporate America" and I know that if I told people to not use my bob@corporateemail.com but instead send it to bob@gmail.com or bob@myprivateserver.com, I would be terminated pretty fast. Regardless if the content I was reading was marked as public, classified or highly classified. Even when we have new employees who do not yet have a corp ID/email address yet and want to use their own laptop for the first week, we cannot send them email to their personal accounts.

    How did she get away with this basic violation regardless if there are classified or non-classified emails.

    How did she get people to send email to her personal server? Did she just set up her federal account to forward it to her automatically or did she start also telling people (lots of people), "Please send it to hillary@clintonemail.com?

  9. She's not alone. by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news:

    - Donald Trump has been sending all of his email to a server in Mexico because it's cheaper than handling it in the USA.
    - Chris Christie is still using Hotmail, and last week he had the entire service shut down for four days to spite everyone who hasn't endorsed him in the primaries.
    - Ted Cruz was using the email address "tcruz@bell.ca" up until 2014. He insists he had no way of knowing it was Canadian.
    - Jeb Bush has technically never received an email in his life. He has an intern print each item in his inbox and read it out loud to him. Sometimes he asks for pictures to go with it.
    - Carly Fiorina also had her email printed for her, but she removed all of the printers from her office in 2004 as a cost-cutting measure.
    - Rand Paul supports the abolition of mail servers entirely, and believes that each individual email should make its own decision as to how it is going to be delivered.
    - Rick Santorum last received email in 2003 when his last name started being blocked by profanity filters.

  10. Re: classification markings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Having served as a Security Manager in the United States Navy, I can with clarity and proper knowledge clearly state that when creating any document, the drafter of the document is responsible for taking appropriate steps to properly classify said document. There is no excuse for not knowing because to gain assess to classified information, you must acknowlede in writing after completing training that you are aware of the above. There is no excuse. Anyone else would already be in jail.