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Samsung May Release an 18" Tablet
A report at PC Magazine says that Samsung may soon field a tablet to satisfy people not content with the 7", 9", 12", or even slightly larger tablets that are today's normal stock in trade. Instead, the company is reported to be working on an 18.4" tablet aimed at "living rooms, offices, and schools." There's a lot of couching going on, but it sounds like an interesting idea: It's said to run Android 5.1 Lollipop and be powered by an octa-core 64-bit 1.6GHz Exynos 7580 processor. Other rumored specs include 2GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage, a microSD card slot with support for cards up to 128GB, and a large 5,700 mAh battery. The device also has an 8-megapixel main camera (and you thought people looked silly taking photos with their iPads) and 2.1-megapixel "secondary camera."
It is bigger than some of the laptops.
is that a Tablet in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?
Finally something appropriate for the older crowd with poor vision. Add Keyboard & Mouse support and a stand and you are giving a PC a run for it's money when it comes to basic computer tasks for a home user, who have found tablets to be too small in the past.
Dell already sells an 18" "All-In-One Desktop" XPS 18 which is thin enough to be a tablet and has batteries and a touchscreen. I have owned one for over a year and it is very nice. Fast Core I7, 8 GB and a terabyte of hybrid disk. They sell less tricked out versions as well. Other than the Android OS on the Samsung and the Windows 8.1 on the Dell they sound pretty comparable. Not sure this is a really new idea.
Several things that they need:
The front camera needs to have a built-in swivel, so that it can aim if the user is at an angle from the device.
Try 4GB instead of 2GB RAM. That's probably just bad info, as other Samsung products already have more memory.
Apps! They need lots of special apps to take advantage of this. They should partner with gaming companies to have app versions of Monopoly and other well-known board games where the tablet is the board, and players sit around it. It may even use bluetooth to let players have secret information on only their handsets.
I'm holding out for the 64" tablet.
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Put PearPad into images.google.com
Most results might not be relevant, but...
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TV shows by the way. I realize it's fictional.
Will someone just please make me a coffee table where the surface is a touchscreen?
And make it resistant to bean dip and highball glasses. And my stinky feet.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Tablets exists because they take up less space than a laptop. A 18" tablet defeats that purpose.
18" is a nice screen.
2GB of RAM is too little. It should have 4GB (minimum), 128GB of SSD, and removable storage options.
Battery should be changeable
Should host a WIFI hotspot.
Decent stylus support for tablet functionality with drawings and documents.
User side camera should be aimable. Also a smallish IR emitter to allow user lighting without making it objectionable to others on flights, in conferences and classes, etc.
Stereo speakers, in the right location.
Waterproof on the top surface.
Ships with a pack of screen protectors.
Decent encryption support.
Seriously, is it that hard to figure out what people want in a high end device?
There are currently very few options for musicians who don't want to carry books around. Hopefully this will be more affordable than the current available products.
I'm all for a big tablet. As someone who regularly works with large drawings having what effectively amounts to a digital piece of paper is a killer feature for me.
But not Android. The entire Android design is centered around small screens, apps designed to fill entire screens, big buttons, large keyboard areas etc. There would be signficant amount of hackery needed to make an 18" tablet useful (which I don't trust Samsung to get right or support going forward), and there are little to no productivity apps that would make an 18" tablet useful in the Android market.
A PC in that form factor on the other hand would make me part with my money.
I use a 12" android tablet now to hold all the sheet music for the band's I'm in. Problem is that this really only works for a single page at a time. Depending on the details and pricing, this 18" display could be a great option for a two-page display.
The biggest issue I see is that few are going to be making apps for this size screen. Instead it'll simply stretch phone apps to the larger screen which will result in highly pixelated apps and less than optimal interfaces. This has long been an issue on Android where less developers are creating apps for tablets. Apple is able to encourage developers to make apps for their specific screen sizes but they also have a smaller range of sizes and a more devoted pool of developers. With just a single tablet available in this size, few will likely make their apps for 18" screen which will result in few apps that really display and operate optimally on the large screen.
Ever since the iPad 1 shipped, I've advocated a range of iPads in all the standard drafting sheet sizes, from A (8.5" x 11") to D (17"x22"). Direct manipulation on large, high-DPI displays would make for an amazing user experience for CAD.
Of course, if I spent the money that a 17x22" device would cost, there's no way in hell I'd settle for Android. I LIKE getting OS updates.
-jcr
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The 7" nexus has more pixels. This 18" screen works out to 122ppi, which is abysmal for any modern hardware, and only fit for a cheap TV.
I keep waiting for Samsung to resurrect the 1980's boombox with their ever increasing phone and tablet sizes. Teens walking down the road, a giant touchscreen device on their shoulders blasting the latest from Justin Bieber....
I didn't say it was a pretty future....
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The picture in TFA shows a tablet with a Windows logo (home button?) and a Windows 7 desktop. Just ignore that.
Attach a keyboard to it, with a hinge, so you can close the whole thing up, protecting both the screen and the keyboard.You could even put little feet on the bottom of the keyboard part, so when it's open it won't slide around if it's on a hard surface. While you're at it, put most of the electronics under the keyboard, along with the battery, so the center of gravity is lower; it'll make the whole device more stable when it's open.
Now we just need to come up with a name for this..
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More like table.
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I always thought the print magazine format would have done well on a tablet that could display at least one full page of a magazine at a size identical to the print edition. I don't find the app versions of magazines nearly as satisfying as paging through a physical magazine and the reduce-and-zoom stuff like Zinio does isn't very appealing either.
Direct manipulation on large, high-DPI displays would make for an amazing user experience for CAD.
It really doesn't. It lacks precision which is essential for CAD, it is even worse when you are doing 3D CAD. Sure you can zoom and pan just like on Google Maps but that doesn't really add much value and ultimately you still need your keyboard and mouse anyway so it's faster to just use those.
Oh yes please, a proper A4 tablet with at minimum Galaxy Tab Note class touchscreen sensitivity etc. I currently run a Tab Note 2, and it's decent for note-taking, sketching, diagrams etc with a stylus, but full A4 size screen would make for a much better experience.
I'm still awaiting delivery of my 2000" TV.
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Consider buying a Cintiq. It's exactly what you are asking for, with superb software and stylus support, at sizes up to 27" diagonal. A bit expensive, but this is a niche market, and you get what you pay for.
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How about a 24" family tablet?
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"Standalone 18.4-inch tablet powered with an NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 quad-core processor"
" detach its 18.4-inch Full HD display and it instantly transforms into a multi-touch Android tablet."
That's the problem - it becomes an over-glorified pda as soon as you undock it. And there's no pen support. Nobody does technical drawings with their fingers, or crayon-sized markers.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Yeah, but then you'd really need a pixel-accurate stylus interface, and that's not how Steve would have used the iPad so it's not allowed to exist. I waiting for 4 iterations of iPad, and tried about every passive and bluetooth-active pen replacement on the market before giving up on that pipe dream. I bought a convertible windows laptop last year, but the software is just now catching up (Bluebeam seems to understand and almost gets it right). Sadly, my screen cracked entirely of it's own volition and I can't even buy a replacement (fuck you, Sony), so I'm hoping that the Surface 4 will fit the bill. (and, honestly, be a little lighter - a 15.6" tablet seems great until it weighs 3.5 pounds).
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
a phlaptop?
Slightly larger than B4 size overall, but with a wider format. The width is 1.9cm wider than A4 and 11cm longer. Plenty of space to show a full A4 PDF and even scale it up a bit, and still have controls, status bars and the rest on the top and bottom.
If it is light enough, this would be an excellent device to read and annotate research papers. Your typical 10" tablet is just too small to fit all of a double-column paper on screen and still keep the text readable. Zoom in on one column and you no longer see the illustrations and lose a lot of context. I'm afraid this will be too heavy to use like that, though.
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Onyx Boox have an e-ink tablet that you can put in landscape mode to show half an A4 page at full size at a time. It's good for many PDF files. Of course some others for some insane reason are encoded badly enough that you need the grunt of a recent desktop computer to avoid rendering times of many seconds per page.
I remember when I got a Dell Streak 5, smartphone in 2010...everyone laughed "it's too big" Then the next year, Samsung came out with the Galaxy Note...everyone said it was too big. Now, just about ever smartphone maker, INCLUDING APPLE has a 5" or bigger screen, so, who's to say an 18" tablet is too big? Time will tell. If they made a rugged one, I'd get it for work and give up lugging around my laptop.
No, no keyboard please. I've been waiting for a reasonable 13+ inch tablet to replace my 3 foot stack of music books for my piano. I scanned my most-used music scores long ago (or downloaded from imslp.org), and used to use a 12.1" PC tablet a decade ago for this purpose (it had a 1440x1050 screen, vs the 1024x768 or 1366x768 which was common at the time). I'd consider that size the absolute minimum size and resolution - the notes are (barely) large enough to easily recognize at typical reading distance when placed on a piano, and the resolution is high enough to easily distinguish different types of notes from each other. 18" would be just awesome.
I realize this isn't exactly a prevalent use case. But those of you looking for a large laptop already have a lot of choices, and those of you looking for a small tablet already have a lot of choices. Don't ruin this for those of us who want a larger tablet just because you personally don't have a use for it.
A keyblet?
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If the specs are accurate, the designers, or more likely the product managers, only have half a brain. How stupid can it be to build it with only 2GB memory and 32GB storage.
My big app runs on a Samsung Pro 12.2. Android is perfect for that, the touch interface is great the stylus perfect for that.
BUT
I want MORE pixels, and more processing power.
Make an 18 inch tablet that is powered from the mains, not portable, stick the fastest Arm chip in it, the most memory and a good 4K screen so its MORE powerful than any tablet and you have a sale.
Also "BIGHEAP" flag on Android still only lets me use a tiny portion of the ram, bump that up to 50% of the total ram please!
If it doesn't include a sub-woofer, it's just not worth it.
If you are in Korea and say "18" aloud in Korean, people will stare at you as it sounds very similar to "F*cking" in Korean. (People in formal situation are normally a little careful saying "18" in Korea especially on broadcasting) So that is F*cking inches tablet. Just saying...
Dell started selling an all-in-one XPS convertible 18" tablet in 2013. Compatible with Windows 8/8.1/10 - still available on their site. But, I guess if it's not Samsung, or Apple, or Google, then it's not news? Innovation has been taking place in the Windows world for over a decade. Miniature systems, hardened industrial laptops, and more that simply doesn't get the consumer publicity, but find very robust deployments in a variety of industries. Someday soon Apple will try to invent a new form factor called "server"?
Every change is not progress, but there is no progress without change.
This guy named Moses had like, TWO of them, and that was THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO! I'm pretty sure they were bigger than 18". But knowing the world of today, I'd be willing to bet Samsung has filed for a patent on the number 18, the numerical value of 1 1/2, (in case someone wants to use feet to measure it,) and possibly the word "Tablot" (Where a tabLET is a smaller version, the diminutive form.)
All kidding aside, I've had a 42 inch tablet for years now, sitting in my living room. I can operate it from across the ROOM, without even having to touch it, and the batteries NEVER DIE. As long as it stays plugged in, it always works, and can stream content wirelessly from VERY FAR AWAY! It's called a TV.
All sarcasm aside, Samsung... get help, buddy. Bigger isn't necessarily better. At some point, you're not pleasuring her anymore, you're just making her pussy sore.
Weight?
But actually, at 18 inches, we cannot expect to be able to carry it in a conventional case, can we?
Does it come with wheels or something?
If anything is prepared for different screen sizes/resolutions on this market, it's Android.
Various assets for different screen sizes, resolutions AND EVEN RATIONS are there out of the box and things do NOT have to have the same layout on different screens either.
In other words, nope, not a problem.
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I second this. Bought one, swapped out the hdd for an SSD and installing Linux Mint. Perfect!
Personally I'd like to 'go back' to Win2k/XP era OS in a modern portable hardware.. ie: Imagine a Droid3(keyboard and all); with possibly just an additional USB port but instead of being limited to android,legacy bios and baytrail(orbetter) hardware...LArger tablets ? no thanks, I want pocket size full comptuer like OQO was butagain Droid3 size; connect up to any bigscreen when you get home.
it is bad as it is, I can imagine that with screen that big it is going to be even worse.
It is fantastic idea (esp. for PDFs), but who needs it if it lasts 6 hours?
According to TFA it "reportedly has a resolution of 1,920 by 1,080 pixels". So it's only FHD, rather than some higher resolution like QHD. Sod the bastards.
Zoom and pan on google maps isn't like pinch to zoom on iOS or Mac OS. I have no problem at all using the pinch gesture to quickly magnify what I'm looking at to get the cursor in the right place.
-jcr
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Judging from the way they designed the horrible A series, this will probably have a resolution of 1024x768.
Let's have a tablet on the floor instead : no problem holding it in the air, no gorilla arm, in fact you don't need arms to use it! Keyboarding will be good exercise, toes can be used for fine drawing and even butt dialing can get literal.
Having a bigger screen to surf the web sounds great to me. The standard tablet size means getting web pages at reduced size. I've never understand why people are happy with a second-rate experience on a tablet.
Fuck portability, I'm not going to carry my tablet anywhere except inside my house. I'll take a larger screen, even if it means a cord to be able to fire 4 times as many photons.
If you have an Android phone or tablet and have plugged it into a large monitor you'll find that what you get is exactly what is on your screen magnified. The apps don't see that they can now display more items and things are just large. This is a fault of the Android UI system and not what you'd expect as a Linux or Windows user. Hopefully there is an Android update to fix this (was a problem at 5.0) or Samsung has some way to fix. It might need app changes in which case this device will be not just be huge but will also be hugely disappointing.
I considered iOS devices at one point but I kind of like having a file system. As a result I've stuck to Windows based like Surface and transformer laptops (Lenovo Yoga Thinkpad is nice).
Make that a wireless remote screen that connects to my desktop PC at home for less cost than a normal tablet and let's talk.
Flame suit on, but....
This device needs to run windows. Even if it is only an option. Android is the wrong path.
I bought an Acer DA220HQL, a 21.5"(!) Android tablet.
It's actually more useful than it seems. We mounted it on the wall in a space we always pass by, and I set it up with Google Keep and Calendar, and synced the family calendars to it, as well as the shopping lists. I did have to use Raccoon to get the apps to install on it, and there are a couple reflow issues with they layouts, but you really can't notice. Now, could we look at a calendar or the shopping list on a phone? Yes, but you don't always have your phone, and having something always there is really useful.
This big tablet would be great for teachers, displaying the same screen students have on their regular size tablets.
While smartboards could cover some lecture / demonstrations this would be useful for smaller groups and lab classes.
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Boom. Dell XPS 18.
Do you actually hold it in your lap like a tablet or is it to big, heavy(5Lbs.), hot?
"Interesting idea" was a very diplomatic way to phrase that, Timothy. Well done!
Ever since the iPad 1 shipped, I've advocated a range of iPads in all the standard drafting sheet sizes, from A (8.5" x 11") to D (17"x22"). Direct manipulation on large, high-DPI displays would make for an amazing user experience for CAD.
Of course, if I spent the money that a 17x22" device would cost, there's no way in hell I'd settle for Android. I LIKE getting OS updates.
-jcr
And thus is the main disadvantage of iOS - you get what you're given, and nothing else...
I've installed a set of skateboard trucks on the back of my Nexus 6, which solves the problem of where to put it when I'm on the move: I just ride it now. With an 18" tablet, I'll have a hand-held sail I can use to catch the wind. Bonus: I can watch videos on it at the same time.
Or at least to me personally. I find my personal threshold to be right around 11" max for a tablet and TRULY prefer 7".
This is from a selection of various tablets, e.g. nexus 7(2013), samsung galaxy tab, nook color, viewsonic gtablet, dell venue 11 pro 7140(my favorite of the bunch, 9+h on internal batt plus another 5-8h with the keyboard w/extra batt wish that it was 10" though), asus T300 chi(got a nice case and tried to use it like a legal pad, but nope it also had other faults like sh!t wifi range, sh!t battery runtime, VERY LOW TDP throttling on battery, unwieldly, etc.)
Anything bigger than 13" most people wouldn't even be able to use it as a tablet as it would always require two hands or a prop to free a hand. Hell many women and 100lb weaklings would likely even have problems w/10-13" tablets for that matter.
I saw years ago, some promotional materials for a company that was planning on large sized tablets to go with their 7 and 10"ers, and one photo showed this women holding their 15" IIRC and she looked like she was not enjoying the experience, and that's sad for a promotional item. I commented on that and they naturally blew me off, but never made anything larger than 10", so maybe they didn't blow me off in the end.
I'm fond of looking at Zinio magazines on my 28" 4K monitor. Growing up reading magazines, I'm used to it. And the double page photos in Outside look very nice at 28"
But it isn't really practical for sitting at a couch, having it in your lap. And I don't think enough people want something like that to drive the prices down.
For portable use, an iPad 2 is good enough that I won't spend more money on this task.
Just prop it up on a stand, obviously add a keyboard and a mouse, and it's exactly what I wanted in 1988, when I was 8 years old.
It took me another few years to get a great desk, but it was worth the wait.
To be clear, I'm still using the 11 foot long solid wood desk, but my AT machine -- 12" screen, 20MB of HDD -- is missing in action, absent without leave, and lost across moves.
I own the tablet that everyone else said was too big to be of any real use, the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2. I use it because it is cheaper than a Surface, and the Android version of Sketchbook Pro is quite adequate for my needs. Its my portable drawing surface. If the resolution were higher than the 12.2, I might go for it, as long as the pricew was competative. If you could allow it to connect to a PC as a pen based monitor, much like a Cintiq, I'd have one.
Android gets more and more comical as the screen sizes get larger, not because of Android itself, but because of what people think Android is and thus the way developers program for it.
Android gets comical not because of Android but because of Google Play. People who buy Android devices demand access to Google Play Store, but Google is unwilling to license the copyrighted Google Play Store client except for preinstallation on devices that meet the Android Compatibility Definition (CDD). And last time I checked, one of the provisions of the CDD was that the logical screen size seen by an application never change after the application is installed. This means no Windows 8.1-style split screen for "snapped" apps. Samsung reportedly works around this by zooming each application in and out while maintaining the logical screen size, but this makes text unreadable while an application is zoomed out.
Dell has been selling this for a few years as the XPS 18, i have one, it replaced my TV.
Zoom and pan on google maps isn't like pinch to zoom on iOS or Mac OS.
We are talking about iOS, zoom and pan in google maps are implemented using the pinch to zoom feature of the operating system. And doing that is highly imprecise, the limitation of CAD on the iPad is not the size of the iPad, it is the poor interaction model.
A Keebler. They are delivered by a dedicated logistics system, employing green-suited little people. With curly shoes. The proper name is the "Enhanced Logistics Virtual Employee System", or ELVES.
and heck why not throw a cursor and mouse on there so I can actually see what I'm "touching"