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Ask Slashdot: What Would You Do If You Were Suddenly Wealthy?

An anonymous reader writes: There are a few articles floating around today about comments from Markus Persson, aka "Notch," the creator of Minecraft. He sold his game studio to Microsoft last year for $2.5 billion, but he seems to be having a hard time adjusting to his newfound fame and wealth. He wrote, "The problem with getting everything is you run out of reasons to keep trying, and human interaction becomes impossible due to imbalance. ... Found a great girl, but she's afraid of me and my life style and went with a normal person instead. I would Musk and try to save the world, but that just exposes me to the same type of a$#@%&*s that made me sell minecraft again." While he later suggests he was just having a bad day, he does seem to be dealing with some isolation issues. Granted, it can be hard to feel sorry for a billionaire, but I've wondered at times how I'd handle sudden wealth like that, and I long ago decided it would make the human relationships I'm accustomed to rather difficult. So, how would you deal with Notch's problem? It seems like one the tech industry should at least be aware of, given the focus on startup culture.

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  1. For starters... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about volunteering time and money and spend some time helping people in need instead of whining, blaming, and name calling?

    1. Re:For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Go talk to Jimmy Carter and see if you can continue some of the great work he did.

    2. Re:For starters... by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, I was going to say "put aside enough money to live relatively comfortably for the rest of your life, then give most of it away". That way you probably won't have to work if you don't want to, and you aren't isolated.

      Or just do random acts of kindness - pay off a whole neighborhood's mortgages, or something. Help some disadvantaged kids get better teachers, provide clean water or infrastructure in developing countries, donate money to interesting research projects. Help unemployed people learn new trades. There's plenty to do, and it might help with his social isolation as well.

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    3. Re:For starters... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fuck that! I'd track down APK and have him committed!

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    4. Re:For starters... by frovingslosh · · Score: 5, Funny

      For starters, I could buy the name brand mac and cheese any time I wanted, not just on special occasions.

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    5. Re: For starters... by Great+Big+Bird · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would you get all sorts of fancy ketchups too? Perhaps some Dijon ketchup.

    6. Re: For starters... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      but of course....

    7. Re:For starters... by dimeglio · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would increase my standard of living gradually until I no longer felt I was rich. Then I would complain about unreliable help, minimum wage hikes, high taxes and government entitlements.

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    8. Re:For starters... by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For starters you would never see my fat ass again. I would never post another thing to /.. My ass would be laying on some beach somewhere with some bronze honey fanning me with one of those palm leaves and other serving me cold drinks out of a coconut cup.

      Some people say, "if I ever get rich I won't quit work." Screw that, may ass would be out of here. It would be the last thing you ever saw of me as I ran out the door.

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    9. Re:For starters... by ndrw · · Score: 5, Informative

      I know you're trolling a bit here, but if you want specific evidence of something Carter has done right, check out the Guinea Worm Eradication program. The Carter Center is a major part of this initiative, that is reducing (with the goal of eliminating) a painful and debilitating parasitic condition. Cases of Guinea Worm have dropped from over 3 million yearly in the early 80's to less than 100 so far this year (W.H.O. stats). The Guinea Worm life cycle requires human infection, so once this thing is gone, it's totally gone.

    10. Re:For starters... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Frankly, nothing Carter has done is of any worth except for Habitat for Humanity.

      Carter was involved in negotiating several peace agreements in Africa and Asia. He has also helped improve the legitimacy of numerous elections. Peace and democracy are worthwhile.

    11. Re:For starters... by clovis · · Score: 4, Informative

      What you said, and more.
      Six diseases are being fought by the Carter Center
      http://www.cartercenter.org/he...

    12. Re:For starters... by dj245 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If he can't keep a woman around while being a billionaire I'd say that mental illness is called "ego".

      I knew someone who was a "mere millionaire" who had the same problem.

      It's not ego. Women don't come labeled with tags that say "sincere" and "gold digger" so you can tell who loves you because you're a wonderful person and who merely loves your wallet.

      That's the real ego problem. Most of us would like not to have the "love" leave when the money does. Or, for that matter, when a higher "bidder" comes along.

      Not only that, but being friends with people of a different social status is not easy. I wasn't always very successful, but now I am at the point where I live a very comfortable life. The more successful I get, the more it seems that there are people who "want something" from me. It starts small, with people wanting to use my apartment complex's pool or other facilities. It has a way of snowballing into the expectation that my family will do all the driving and hosting of get-togethers. These problems only occur with friends who are of a lower economic status than us. If they reciprocated, we wouldn't care. I understand those friends aren't flush with cash, but a platter of home cooked baked chicken isn't that expensive, and some of them can't even be bothered with that. A cooler of cheap beer is within just about everyone's monetary reach; especially if I will offer you the same at a later date. But that isn't what I get out of many friendships with lower class people.

      We don't have this problem with people on the same income level. They always reciprocate. I don't think about who is "up" and who is "down" monetarily, because they make an effort, and that is enough. Poor people don't seem to think about what I want in return for helping them. I don't count dollars, because I have plenty of my own. The effort in keeping a friendship is all I want to see returned. Sadly, that's very hard to find.

      Rich people must struggle tremendously with the problem of someone always trying to get something from them for nothing. You see all the worst and selfish behaviors of humanity. If I were as wealthy as Notch, I would have to dress like a bum, travel the world inconspicuously, and hope nobody notices me. I don't think I would be able to handle all the "help a brother out" BS that he probably has to deal with. It must be exhausting.

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    13. Re:For starters... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I guess if I were to get overnight wealthy, it would have to be the lottery, Powerball or something.

      What would I do?

      Well, I'd leave work so fast the door wouldn't come within a mile of my ass hitting it on the way out. While I *might* stay long enough to be a nice guy, maybe give the passwords to someone, I'm outta there.

      People that say they'd keep working, not me. I don't understand that, I have PLENTY of things I like to do that can keep my occupied for the rest of my life.

      I"d likely but a nicer house here in New Orleans...one in maybe Denver, CO to go when too hot here, and maybe one in Key West or somewhere near a beach when I felt in that mood.

      Married? Hell no....why get married when you can now be free to chase pussy 24/7...or if nothing else, do the sugardaddy.com thing...cute, good looking girls, and you get to upgrade models at will without having to risk losing half your shit you own.

      But more seriously, the world is your oyster if you are that rich. Travel, see things..hell, you can see and do a lot without ever leaving the US.

      I have plenty of friends around the US, so, I don't really need more. I'd take care of them and their families (the ones that are married)...and well, just have fun.

      I have never understood the lottery winners who'd just keep working. I've got a ton of stuff I'd rather be doing at any point in the day.

      Heck, on some long times in between contracts, one time was 7mos...I'd wake up about 8-9am, go walk the dog...maybe jump on my motorcycle and hit the gym daily for 1-2 hours. Home for lunch, then maybe back on the motorcycle (summer/early fall) and go check out a new art museum or something here in NOLA...and maybe catch a fest or meet friends of mine getting off work at a bar for a few about 4pm....come home...lather, rinse, repeat.

      Personally I never got tired of that easy life..and hey, if I was rich and got bored, I could always travel somewhere and vacation from that!!!

      Yep, I'm sorry, I dunno how someone could be rich and miserable.

      If it is so bad, gimme the money and let me take a swing at that type of life. I assure you, I'll have no problems.

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  2. Better myself by jbeaupre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Step 1: Stop reading Slashdot

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    1. Re:Better myself by internerdj · · Score: 5, Funny

      You must be the CEO of the company I work for. Nice to meet you. Is this actual permission or do I need to keep "compiling"?

  3. Trading one set of problems for another by erp_consultant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Becoming wealthy (whatever "wealthy" is considered these days) comes with its own challenges.

    People with no money have very specific challenges: find food and water and shelter for your family. Everything else is secondary.

    People that have a job and shelter but not enough money have different challenges: Buying a car, paying for school, You have enough for basic necessities but not enough for aspiration items.

    People with lots of money have unique challenges: Who do you trust? Taxes become problematic. Gold diggers. How do you raise kids without spoiling them?

    It seems to me that the sweet spot is around 100K per year. You're not rich but you have enough. In many cities that is enough to buy a nice home and a new car every 4-5 years. It's a nice place to be.

    1. Re:Trading one set of problems for another by leonbev · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In coastal Connecticut, $100K a year isn't enough to buy a decent house if you're trying to raise a family at the same time.

      I'd bet that the New Yorkers and Californians in the forum would agree with this statement.

      $200K might be enough to get a nice home around here, but $100K a year here is like making $40K a year in a rural area. The taxes and real estate prices are a killer.

  4. Do something money can't solve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Buy land and start a small hobby farm (very small). Animals and crops require constant attention, you can't ignore them for even a day. Keeps you busy, keeps you grounded, even if you do still get most of your food from a grocery store. He's got enough to bring internet access out from nearby town or city, so he can stay up to date and work for fun instead of a living, until he figures out what he'd rather do instead.

    Stop "solving" all your problems with money and pick up a few that require attention and care instead of cash. You can buy the animals, buildings, and tools, but YOU still have to use them or you fail and things die.

  5. First things first. by bistromath007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first thing I need to do is hire an accountant so I know how much I actually have. If I do anything else first, I have a feeling a significant portion of the fortune would be gone before I have any kind of understanding of what my tax burden is, and I'd fuck myself right back to poverty.

    Next thing I do (after buying a house, of course) is start studying accountancy, because if I've learned anything from reading the news the past several years, it's that NOBODY can be trusted with that many zeroes.

    After that, I've got friends who need help, and who deserve it much more than I do. I want to see them happy. Then I can start worrying about businesses and philanthropy and shit like that.

    1. Re:First things first. by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Next thing I do (after buying a house, of course) is start studying accountancy, because if I've learned anything from reading the news the past several years, it's that NOBODY can be trusted with that many zeroes.

      After that, I've got friends who need help, and who deserve it much more than I do. I want to see them happy. Then I can start worrying about businesses and philanthropy and shit like that.

      You're overthinking this. Read The Four Pillars of Investing by William Bernstein. Invest your money sensibly. Make sure that all your eggs aren't in one basket - invest with a number of different firms and with a broad portfolio. Pay attention to annual performance and ask questions.

      Then look after your friends, although you'll discover that everyone looks at you in a different way.

      Even when you're wearing your old comfy jeans, they'll look at your feet and see the $800 shoes that you bought because they're the most freakishly comfortable things you've ever put on your feet. Your Aston Martin key fob will start unwanted conversations with TSA screeners every time you pass through security (they all seem to think that a Ferrari 458 would be a much more sensible choice than a 4-door sedan).

      Meeting people gets a bit awkward. They'll ask where you live and you'll tell them, "Just out of town, near the river," hoping that they won't ask the next question, which is, "Oh! How many acres? Three? Four?" You'll lower your voice as you start apologetically - "A hundred and sixty. But we have horses..." It's not the sort of attention an introvert enjoys.

    2. Re:First things first. by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd hire at least two accountants and two lawyers, each to check the others work, and hopefully reduce the risk of being ripped off by either one.

      Also, occasionally force them to brutally fight to the death. With themed weapons, like one gets a 3-ring binder, and the other gets one of those staple remover things. Replace the loser with fresh blood. Keeps them lean and on their toes.

      I'd be a good rich dude, I think.

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  6. Bond villain by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd have to go Musk and start building my Bond villain infrastructure.

    Fleet of cars who's 'owners' don't know are autonomous-check.

    Fleet of rocket ships-check.

    Doomsday device-check

    The question is: Where is Musk's secret lair?

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  7. Obligatory "Office Space" Reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Peter Gibbons: What would you do if you had a million dollars?

    Lawrence: I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man.

    Peter Gibbons: That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?

    Lawrence: Damn straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.

    Peter Gibbons: Well, not all chicks.

    Lawrence: Well, the type of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.

    Peter Gibbons: Good point.

    Lawrence: Well, what about you now? What would you do?

    Peter Gibbons: Besides two chicks at the same time?

    Lawrence: Well, yeah.

    Peter Gibbons: Nothing.

    Lawrence: Nothing, huh?

    Peter Gibbons: I would relax... I would sit on my ass all day... I would do nothing.

    Lawrence: Well, you don't need a million dollars to do nothing, man. Take a look at my cousin: he's broke, don't do shit.

  8. People can be leeches by Morpeth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was in college, there was a guy who was really wealthy (no idea how much, not billions, but millions I'm sure) --- his parents died young, I think it was an accident of sorts, and he inherited a fortune, or got a settlement.

    Anyway... people used him for free beer, parties, food, anything they could get from him. I knew him tangentially because he was a pen and paper gamer, and ran some D&D sessions so we had some common friends.

    The poor guy seemed miserable, knowing most people were only hanging out with him for his money, etc. Seriously, he was just a sad sack, seemed depressed and lonely in that existential kind of way. I know people say 'aw.... poor little rich boy', but I really felt bad for the guy. He seemed like a decent enough person, but the money didn't seem to make his life really that much better. Sure he didn't have student loans like I did, didn't have to work like I did -- but I had some good friends, who certainly didn't hang out with me for money (or lack thereof)

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  9. Take over a small southern town by butchersong · · Score: 4, Funny

    Buy every industry in said town. Give loans to desperate people that you know they can't pay back. Buy up all the politicians and the realestate. Become sheriff because that is where the real local power is. Make subtle changes to the town and architecture giving everything a creepy southern gothic kind of feel. Slowly tighten your grip year after year. Ah, it would be heaven.

  10. Re:It's all a matter of perspective by SpectreBlofeld · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree. He bought a bunch of shit and found out that it doesn't bring happiness.

    Personally, I'd own less 'stuff' than I do now, and live out of a suitcase. With 1.5 billion dollars, I'd travel the world and probably never stop. Buy an unassuming-looking car in Europe or the UK and drive all over, meeting new and interesting people and exploring new places. Hike the West Highland Trail in Scotland; ski the Alps in Switzerland; explore the catacombs of France, rent a speedboat and putter around on Lake Como in Italy, etc.

    That, to me, is being rich - it means being free to go anywhere and do anything. I don't need a lavish life of luxury; I just want to be free of the shackles that keep me from seeing the world.

  11. The solution is easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Realize that your life is yours to live. You choose your lifestyle, not the other way around.

    I've been my own boss for a while and I've grown a successful company. I'm a millionaire many dozens of times over. I drive an old Volvo wagon I bought used for $2500. I live in a 1500 square foot house. I buy clothes at Kohls. Only a very small handful of people know what I'm worth, and they are sworn to secrecy.

    I chose to life the lifestyle of a regular Joe. Here's a step-by-step guide to coming into a lot of money quickly:

    1) SHUT THE FUCK UP. Keep it secret to the best of your ability. If you can't, come up with a plan for that. But, do the best you can.

    2) Decide NOW what kind of lifestyle you want to live. Think 5 years down the road about the company you will want to keep. Birds of a feather flock together. White people hang out with white people. Rich people hang out with rich people. It sucks, but you have to decide now.

    3) Put the principal away, and pay yourself what it takes to live the lifestyle you decided to live in Step 2.

    4) Finally, and most important, change NOTHING right away (except, paying off debt is perfectly okay). Stay at your job. Don't run away. Don't take a vacation. Don't throw a party for all of your close friends unless you want to find out how many of them actually aren't your close friends. Just maintain the status quo and make decisions SLOWLY.

    That is the best advice I can give, from one rich guy to another.

  12. On misery by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A successful celebrity was once asked if money buys happiness.

    Her reply was, "I'd rather be rich and miserable than poor and miserable."

  13. Buy /. by jimbolauski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would buy /. and make sure questions like these would be relegated to reddit & digg.

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  14. Re:Buy an island by wiggles · · Score: 4, Funny

    nevermind. I'm wrong.

    Hey slashdot. Can we edit/delete our posts please? FFS, this site is almost 20 years old and you still don't have this capability?

  15. Re:give $100 million each to best friends & fa by Quirkz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until one dies of an overdose, one disappears into some kind of cult, half of the rest spend it all and blame you when you won't give them more because now they're entitled. It sounds like a good plan, but it can go bad pretty easily, too.

  16. Re:Batman by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, this would be a perfect idea. There used to be a guy in Maryland known as the "Route 29 Batman" who would dress up in a (really nice) Batman costume, and would go to hospitals to visit sick children and entertain them.

    And sadly, he was killed in a car accident just a few weeks ago, so there's certainly an opening for it:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

  17. His first mistake was changing his lifestyle by goathumper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hindsight is 20/20, but I've always thought that were I to come upon a windfall of some large(ish) caliber, I'd likely not tell a soul, and not change my lifestyle significantly and suddenly. Sure it's tempting to run out and buy a Ferrari, but if one thinks about it, those are childish wishes and whims - a lack of self-control, if you will. The first things I'd do is settle all my debts (house, car, etc.), which aren't as visible to others. I'd also start winding down my employment (i.e. 1-month or even 2-month notice).

    By simply slowing the transition down significantly, perhaps even "embellishing" the nature of the windfall (i.e. "I just closed a deal that's going to do very well for me over the next 2 years") such that the changes are logical and incremental vs. sudden and drastic, one can avoid such "acclimation pains" in one's social circle.

    In the end, if you change your life drastically there's a very good chance you'll run into the same isolation issues - windfall or no. So it's about the (perceived) speed of the climb, not the steepness.

    Besides, if you make the change slow it's easier for people to see that you're not changing - just your lifestyle and economic conditions. Less scary that way I think.

    PS/ what's he bitching and whining about women for? he can afford any (set of) pornstar(s) he wants now!! :D

  18. Re:It's all a matter of perspective by chipschap · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Down to a certain point, I've also learned that "less is more" when it comes to material possessions. The posessions can start to own you instead of the reverse.

  19. Re:Buy an island by Coren22 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hey slashdot. Can we edit/delete our posts please? FFS, this site is almost 20 years old and you still don't have this capability?

    That is because it is the way Slashdot was designed. It is intentional, as if you could go back and edit your posts, you can change their tone afterwards.

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  20. you're both right by raymorris · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are correct that a million will net about $60k. That's in a diversified portfolio of long-term investments, a fairly reliable income. Actually $600K per ten years is reliable - year to years gains will fluctuate and that's okay - your spending doesn't have to fluctuate to match each year.

    What will ALSO net $60K spending money is earning 100K, saving 12% for retirement, spending 15% on your mortgage, etc. Once you retire, you're no longer saving up for retirement. If you pay off your house before you retire, you're no longer paying mortgage. You're probably not saving for your kids' college anymore. Therefore a $1 million retirement fund will provide approximately the same lifestyle as a $100K / year job.

    This assumes you're under 55 currently, so you don't count on any social security at all. *

    * You know based on how people are 55 today that 20 years there will be more 75 year-olds than there is money to pay benefits.

  21. Money by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Whoever said money can't buy happiness simply didn't know where to go shopping."
    -- Bo Derek

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  22. Don't Musk. Invest in Musk by lazarus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "I would Musk and try to save the world, but that just exposes me to the same type of a$#@%&*s that made me sell minecraft again."

    You don't have to try to be Musk. If you don't feel the need to get into that or be that sort of creative, at least you can recognize the people who do/are. Call him. You don't need to buy public shares when you have that kind of money. You invest in other people who are trying to change the world.

    Keep some for yourself and enjoy your life while knowing that your money is helping to change the world. Don't like what Musk is doing? He's just an example. Fine something you believe in and invest.

    I would blow it on something I found ridiculously cool. Like hardened, high-speed em-drive interstellar probes or something. But to each his own.

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  23. Re:Buy an island by PatientZero · · Score: 4, Funny

    *Beckon Call, not "beck and call".

    nevermind. I'm wrong.

    Oh thank god. I couldn't handle another linguistic bombshell like "for all intensive purposes" actually being "intents and purposes"! That rocked my world when I was eleven, and I don't think I ever recovered.

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  24. Money can in fact buy happiness by seebs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone who thinks money can't buy happiness has never bought a week's groceries for a poor person.

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