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9th-Grader May Face Charges After Homemade Clock Mistaken For Bomb

New submitter bengoerz writes: 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed was led away from MacArthur High School in handcuffs and faces possible charges after teachers, school administrators, and police in Irving, Texas mistook his homemade clock for a bomb. The device — a circuit board, power supply, and digital display wired together inside a pencil box — was confiscated by a teacher after the alarm sounded in class. Despite telling everyone who would listen that his device was just a clock, Ahmed was confronted by four police officers, suspended for three days, and threatened with expulsion unless he made a written statement, before eventually being transported to a juvenile detention center to meet his parents.

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  1. Stupid people are stupid by BubbaDave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, a lot of the stupid seem to have involved themselves in education.

    1. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Rhywden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Last time I look, an actual bomb needed more than just a circuit board. I dare say that those other components (e.g. the actual explosive) might be a bit more important.

    2. Re: Stupid people are stupid by unami · · Score: 5, Informative

      well, here's the principal: dacummings@irvingisd.net and here the link to the administrative staff page: http://www.irvingisd.net/domai... have fun, and don't forget to write them about their 1600 cc-cameras. from an european perspective this sounds like an orwellian prison, but maybe this is normal for the U.S. way to go, educating children towards acceptance for the surveilance state.

    3. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So if I take a motherboard inside a box to my school for a science project, you are saying everyone should insta-suspect I am carrying a bomb, even though I'm a pure-bred caucasian and my name is John Smith? In the school's defense, there's only one thing you can say: 'MURICA. When you live in the US and your name is Ahmed Mohamed, you have better chances of not being mistaken by a terrorist if you changed your name to Nero Bombmaker.

      The ironic thing is that the vast majority of terror attacks on US soil-particularly bombings-have been perpetrated by "pure-bred caucasian John Smiths". McVeigh, Roof, Columbine, Aurora CO, 1996 Olympics, Unabomber, etc. Incidents such as these dwarf the number of incidents perpetrated by Muslims.

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    4. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "His dad sounds like an interesting character "

      Post hoc justification. Police knew it wasn't a bomb when the police dragged him out of school, they admitted that.
      They tried to claim that it might be mistaken for a bomb if left under a car, but it wasn't left under a car.

      So what left now? Try to pretend his dad is a bit dodgy?

      At what point would the police say "this is dumb, its not a bomb it has no explosive mechanism on it... our job is to arrest and prosecute actual *crimes*, not humor fantasists who watch too much TV"?

      And at what point will the school board step in and remove these people who show such poor judgement and can't admit their mistake? Who would actually pay attention to them if they now claimed another bomb, given their history of mindless claims?

      An adult needs to step in and remove these children from the role they are not grown up enough to have!

    5. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Minupla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then at least the cops should have taken the time to check to see if there was a CRIME committed before taking the poor kid into custody. That being, you know, their job and all.

      Last I checked, building an alarm clock is not a crime. Having it go off in class is disruptive, but also not a crime.

      At the very least some sincere apologies are owed the kid from the 'adults' involved.

      Min

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    6. Re:Stupid people are stupid by swillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You think they were going to perform a full forensic analysis of it before they called the cops?

      Who's asking for a "full forensic analysis"? How about just a quick look to notice that there is nothing *other* than electronics. To make a bomb, you have to have, you know, something that can go boom.

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    7. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Yoda222 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't need a digital timer to make a bomb. Why suspect that, and not a shoe or a bag or a pair of glasses? If they are school teachers and not bomb experts, how can they tell that a shoe will not explode?

    8. Re:Stupid people are stupid by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ZERO TOLERANCE!!!!!!!!!

      Perhaps teachers need to sit down and realize that "zero tolerance" really means "intolerance" but it seems that what they are really aiming for is "irrational". Kids arrested for drawing on desks, drawing pictures of guns, shaping their fingers like a gun...etc. Sheesh my generation would not have made it two weeks into school without being locked in maximum security prisons.

      Well congratulations. If this technical minded little boy ends up being processed as a "potential terrorist" you can bet your ass he WILL end up disliking the government that did this to him. Thus America creates another terrorist. Maybe that's the whole idea, I don't know anymore.

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    9. Re:Stupid people are stupid by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did they call the bomb squad and evacuate the school? If not, then it would seem they didn't really think it was a bomb. If they did, then wow that is terrible journalism by the author of the article.

      The initial overreaction is vaguely understandable*. Especially when you take the Iriving Texas and kid with Mohamed in his name parts. The follow on is not.

      He was suspended after they knew it wasn't a bomb. He is being threatened with being charged with making a hoax bomb after they clearly knew it wasn't a bomb (given the proposed charge).

      * That it is, is a good indicator that the US is screwed of course, and apparently succeeding in its attempt to destroy creativity and so on. Holy crap the things we did at school less than 4 decades ago - we'd all be serving lifetime prison terms these days.

    10. Re:Stupid people are stupid by clodney · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You make a judgement call, and the teachers here erred on the side of caution. Imagine if this kid was a terrorist and it actually was a bomb, and they had done nothing. I bet you would be the first first person screaming "A muslim kid who no one knows shows up to school carrying a box with a timer on it and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING??"

      Sorry, but erring on the side of caution would be to look at the clock and inspect it for explosives. Or to politely say that because of nervousness around things that look like bombs, they need to take it away and ask the police to look at it. And then when it turns out to be a clock, apologize profusely and say he can pick it up at the end of the day.

      Intense questioning, perp walk in handcuffs, and fingerprinting at juvie is an epic level of overreaction. Nobody disputes that it was anything more than a bomb. He didn't leave it somewhere where it would be mistaken for a bomb, he had it in his backpack, and it only came to light because it had an alarm he had to silence. I like the notion that somebody else posted - a public apology by everyone involved, either in the form of a letter to all the parents, a student assembly, or both.

    11. Re:Stupid people are stupid by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      These are school teachers, not bomb experts.

      Indeed, and they're fucking incompetent AS TEACHERS because when a star student comes on and proudly says "hey, look at my cool clock!" it's not reasonable to assume it's a goddamn bomb! And -- most importantly -- that applies regardless of how racist the teacher is! Let me make this perfectly clear: IF THE STUDENT WERE A WHITE CHRISTIAN, THE TEACHERS WOULD NEVER EVEN HAVE CONSIDERED THE POSSIBILITY OF IT BEING A BOMB. And that's the way they should have treated Ahmed, too!

      Nothing about this should ever even started to be an issue. The only problem here is that this school is apparently run by ignorant, racist, paranoid, cowardly shitheads.

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    12. Re:Stupid people are stupid by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

      9th grade isn't the place for political protests.

      Go fuck yourself! EVERYWHERE is the place for political protests, especially places that people say "aren't the place for political protests" and 20 feet outside the bullshit "free speech zone!"

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    13. Re:Stupid people are stupid by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The issue here isn't the initial reaction to the clock. The issue is that it's discovered and proven that the device really was just a clock...but the "Authorities" kept on escalating, leading to an ultimately unwarranted suspension, juvenile detention, an official charge, with a court date! If it had been simply dropped at the point of "ok, just a clock like the kid said... we can resume classes now," -- no harm, no foul. No. These idiots have to keep going with it, think they have to save face from a perceived slight against them, even if there were no such thing... and then potentially destroy a kid's life because they could not man up and admit that they made a mistake.

      If someone brings in a questionable item to class, fine, go ahead and question the kid, investigate the item...bring in an expert if you don't think you've the "expertise" to identify an item...even write up a damn report of the incident if you have to. If the item is identified as malicious..then by all means, put the kid under the jail and yell it to the four corners. If what looks like a homemade clock turns out, after investigation, to be just a clock, then write up an incident report that reflects that if you have to...and DROP it right there; No "consequences" for the kid because, hey!, He really actually didn't do a damn thing wrong to deserve any consequences!

    14. Re:Stupid people are stupid by MitchDev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, I see a glowy screen with a clock on that laptop and I can't see inside it, guess we have to arrest you for making a possible bomb and bringing it to school!

      So goddamn sick of this country and the people defending the cops and school employees...

    15. Re:Stupid people are stupid by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah.

      Brown skin, muslimish-sounding name, Texas... My own first thought was: "Well, at least they didn't just summarily shoot him."

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    16. Re:Stupid people are stupid by kilfarsnar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Building a clock is not a crime. However, bringing a homemade clock to school, in a pencil box and having the alarm go off in class, I think, is something that can be reasonably assumed to cause concern. Inciting panic and causing public disturbances ARE crimes - the clock and its maker did both.

      So now it's this kid's fault that everyone around him is fucking hysterical?

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  2. Unavoidable by qbast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Brown skin, name like 'Ahmed Mohamed' and home made electronic clock. He is lucky to be alive actually.

    1. Re:Unavoidable by TheReaperD · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On one hand I wanted to commend you on your sarcasm but, I'm afraid you may be both dead serious and right. There's a lot of islamophobic stupidity in this country at the moment and it runs deep in all government institutions especially involving police or defense.

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    2. Re: Unavoidable by edtice1559 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No it wasn't stupid at all. He built a homemade electronic clock. He was curious about the world and explored it. This desire to create is something we want to nurture not suppress. If the wright brothers were alive today, they would probably be charged with terrorism. That contraption they were making was clearly intended to wreak havoc.

    3. Re: Unavoidable by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have thought about it. My conclusion is that if you have to check twice before carrying something harmless around with you then the terrorists have won.

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  3. That'll learn 'im by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He made the mistake of thinking that school was a place for learning and exploration. It is not.

    He also made the mistake of not having white skin and having a Muslim-sounding name.

  4. Innocent until proven guilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That used to mean something in this country. Now the "terrorists" are out to get us from every corner. Benjamin Franklin's quote about safety and liberty applies more and more every day. If it was a Caucasian kid named Billy Martin, would this even be "news"?

  5. Suspend the teachers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I cannot believe the stupidity of the teachers. They should be suspended.
    The school should pay damages to cover emotional distress and follow up therapy for the kid.

    Well done...

  6. Who to contact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's how to reach out to the Irving ISD superintendent to let him know what you think:

    Jose Parra
    Superintendent of Schools
    972-600-5001
    jparra@irvingisd.net

  7. WTF? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    His clock now sits in an evidence room. Police say they may yet charge him with making a hoax bomb â" though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that itâ(TM)s a clock.

    So, he might be charged ... for not making a bomb ... and for telling everybody it's not a bomb?

    What the actual fuck? He didn't create a bomb, he didn't create a hoax bomb. Morons incorrectly concluded he made a bomb, he told them repeatedly it wasn't a bomb, but these morons now wish to charge him for the non-making of a non-bomb in a non-hoaxing kind of way?

    These police are fucking morons, who if left in public could be accidentally confused with competent law enforcement officers. They should be charged with creating a hoax police department.

    Apparently being a nerdy brown kid is now illegal in America. If this was a white Christian kid, he'd be a national fucking hero.

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  8. What the hell happened to us as a nation? by KenDiPietro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We didn't used to be a bunch of sniveling cowards! There was a time when we used to exude bravery and instead of pissing our pants at the possibility of a problem we shrugged them off and dealt with them as necessary. And now look at us. Some kid brings a science project to school and we have jackasses wondering if he did this to create a stink. Maybe the kid just wanted to experiment with electronics - like a lot of us did when we were kids. Oh right, no one here on SlashDot ever did that. Christ!

    1. Re:What the hell happened to us as a nation? by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It isn't fear of terrorism that causes this sort of reaction. At least, not directly. I don't think the police or teachers were necessarily worrying themselves that they might get blown up. Rather, it was a fear that - if the clock was a bomb used in a terror attack - THEY WOULD GET BLAMED for not doing something about it earlier. It's the same reason our politicians are so willing to pass the most obscenely unjust laws to chase down criminals: the penalty for not passing the law is disproportionately greater than passing it. If even one crime could have been prevented by the non-existent law (or had the clock been a bomb), far more blame is assigned to the people-of-authority who MIGHT have done something about the crime than to the actual criminal performing the act itself. It's no wonder people over-react in these situations. They aren't worried about being attacked by terrorists; they are worried about being attacked by us.

  9. Punish the (really) guilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why punish this kid? He did nothing wrong. Punish the hysterical school officials who lack the sense to tell a clock from a bomb for wasting police time.

  10. Re:Pirates of the Caribbean? by nedlohs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly you lack experience with cops.

  11. Email the school and let them know what you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Recipients: dacummings@irvingisd.net, othomas@irvingisd.net, mespino@irvingisd.net, sheller@irvingisd.net, awong@irvingisd.net, psmith@irvingisd.net
    (from http://www.irvingisd.net/domain/2031 )

    Email message:

    To whom it concerns,

    I had to read this article about a boy who tinkers with electronics as a hobby:
    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school-so-you-tried-to-make-a-bomb.ece

    I hope it is not standard practice of the school to traumatize kids the way this has been dealt with. Kids who take up interests in sciences should be supported. Not jailed.

  12. Reminds you of 2007? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember the 2007 Boston 'bomb'? The LED light sign advertising Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
    When they realized they were just signs, and the police chief and mayor had been idiots, they switched the claim to "intent to plant a hoax device to cause panic", so the panic they were spreading by claiming it was a bomb, they then twisted that to pretend that panic came from the people placing the LED signs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare

    They dig a hole for themselves, and they dig it deeper and deeper until they come across as unfit to run a city or school.

    Here, you see the same thing:

    "Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock, said police spokesman James McLellan. And police have no reason to think it was dangerous. But officers still didn’t believe Ahmed was giving them the whole story."

    “We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”
    "Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman explained:"
    “It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him into custody?”

    ******
    They know its not a bomb, so they go for the "might be mistaken for a bomb if placed under a car" angle. Some fictional extra bit, that might turn a non-bomb into something that might be mistaken for a bomb by someone as idiot as themselves.

    I'm better they watch Fox News.

  13. Re:Gee-zus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Macarthur High School, Irving, TX reviews. Sounds like a terrible place to try to learn.

    "At least half of the teachers should not be teaching kids EVER."

    "Only by threatening to have them arrested. Kids are afraid to take AP classes because they aren't learning anything. They are only reading and taking notes. No instruction at all."

    "My kids hate this school now and would much rather move if we were able."

    "No it's a breeding ground for bullying, fighting and rudeness. The teachers stoop to a child's level to treat them with absolute disrespect."

    "This school has gone from a 10 to a 1 in a matter of 9 months. I blame this 100% on the new Principal. This school is run like a military camp, with horrible food, unrealistic rules, and all 'fun' activities taken away. They are threatened with court and jail if they are tardy. Theft is so rampant at this school that it is unbelievable. AP History teachers give several hours of notes each night, instead of actually TEACHING while they are in class, which means no time for their core class homework or sports. They refuse, and I mean refuse to let your child out of AP, even when you have signed several slips for this to happen. Teachers obviously set you up to fail. They just don't care. This is true for 50% of the teachers at this school. And don't report bullying. Your child will be blamed instead of the child who is actually doing the bullying. And the parent is put down as well. We just don't report theft or bullying anymore. Not worth the humiliation and disrespect that the 'fine' staff at Mac makes sure you endure."

  14. Persecuting that which is not understood by Aaron+B+Lingwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Salem Witch Trials, Mass Murder of Scientists, Islamophobia, 2007 Boston Bomb Scare, and now this.

    The teacher confiscated the "bomb" which sat in their drawer until the end of class when it was taken to administration. If the teacher truly believed that the device could have even remotely been a bomb, they would not have touched it, would have evacuated the school, and would have called bomb squad. The teacher, the administration, and the police are complicit in perpetuating a fraud - a fraud against a child.

    Even in the case that the clock resembled a "movie bomb" or was purposely contracted to do so, the child did nothing wrong as long as he didn't hint at it being a bomb or use it to threaten anyone. There are plenty of clocks on the market that resemble a bomb. Yes, it may have been a lark. Yes, it may have been a protest to create awareness. No, it wasn't malicious. No, it wasn't threatening. And no, it obviously wasn't convincing.

    I seriously hope that he follows in his father's footsteps and keeps challenging the status quo.

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  15. Wow. by jdharm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "He’s vowed never to take an invention to school again."

    Reading that article gave me a sick feeling in my stomach. It sounded like they were describing a grisly murder when they were detailing the exact manner in which a school's ignorance and racism crushed the spirit and enthusiasm of a smart and motivated kid. Then I read that last line. That might be one of the most profoundly sad things I've ever read.

  16. The Cops sure didn't think it was actually a bomb. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    or they would have evacuated the school and sent in the bomb-squad. They knew it wasn't a bomb the entire time.

  17. Indeed I would by dcooper_db9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The school system had the kid arrested. They suspended him for three days and forced him to sign a statement under duress. They allowed the police to interrogate him, on school property, without legal representation or the presence of an adult guardian. You know what they never did?

    Evacuate the school

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  18. Re:What is there to disassemble? by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An ammonium nitrate and fuel oil mix (easy homemade explosive) has something around 40 megajoules per liter energy density.

    That's nice in theory but I can tell you in practice (from when I was much younger) with that exact material in that kind of volume you don't get much of a boom.

    Don't forget we are talking about what fits INSIDE a pencil case, so the equivalent of say 10 No2 pencils...

    Telling people that something with the internal volume of a fewof hand grenades

    The reason hand grenades are dangerous is because of the very thick and heavy metal shrapnel, not the explosion. The volume inside a pencil case IS less than a single hand grenade, and the "shrapnel" from the explosion wouldn't penetrate most clothing beyond a foot or two.

    It's sad that movies have given people a totally unrealistic idea of what is possible with explosives...

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