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9th-Grader May Face Charges After Homemade Clock Mistaken For Bomb
New submitter bengoerz writes: 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed was led away from MacArthur High School in handcuffs and faces possible charges after teachers, school administrators, and police in Irving, Texas mistook his homemade clock for a bomb. The device — a circuit board, power supply, and digital display wired together inside a pencil box — was confiscated by a teacher after the alarm sounded in class. Despite telling everyone who would listen that his device was just a clock, Ahmed was confronted by four police officers, suspended for three days, and threatened with expulsion unless he made a written statement, before eventually being transported to a juvenile detention center to meet his parents.
Unfortunately, a lot of the stupid seem to have involved themselves in education.
Brown skin, name like 'Ahmed Mohamed' and home made electronic clock. He is lucky to be alive actually.
He made the mistake of thinking that school was a place for learning and exploration. It is not.
He also made the mistake of not having white skin and having a Muslim-sounding name.
Please don't be a Arab-sounding name. Shit!
Please don't be in Texas. Fock!
Sigh... well played, stereotype, well played.
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That used to mean something in this country. Now the "terrorists" are out to get us from every corner. Benjamin Franklin's quote about safety and liberty applies more and more every day. If it was a Caucasian kid named Billy Martin, would this even be "news"?
I cannot believe the stupidity of the teachers. They should be suspended.
The school should pay damages to cover emotional distress and follow up therapy for the kid.
Well done...
Here's how to reach out to the Irving ISD superintendent to let him know what you think:
Jose Parra
Superintendent of Schools
972-600-5001
jparra@irvingisd.net
So, he might be charged ... for not making a bomb ... and for telling everybody it's not a bomb?
What the actual fuck? He didn't create a bomb, he didn't create a hoax bomb. Morons incorrectly concluded he made a bomb, he told them repeatedly it wasn't a bomb, but these morons now wish to charge him for the non-making of a non-bomb in a non-hoaxing kind of way?
These police are fucking morons, who if left in public could be accidentally confused with competent law enforcement officers. They should be charged with creating a hoax police department.
Apparently being a nerdy brown kid is now illegal in America. If this was a white Christian kid, he'd be a national fucking hero.
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We didn't used to be a bunch of sniveling cowards! There was a time when we used to exude bravery and instead of pissing our pants at the possibility of a problem we shrugged them off and dealt with them as necessary. And now look at us. Some kid brings a science project to school and we have jackasses wondering if he did this to create a stink. Maybe the kid just wanted to experiment with electronics - like a lot of us did when we were kids. Oh right, no one here on SlashDot ever did that. Christ!
What are the chances he was just making a clock? Clocks are relatively simple projects that are made by millions of hobbyists to learn about electronics. One can learn a lot from such a simple project - soldering, reading and understanding electronic component data sheets, programming- all are required in such a project.
Just as water is a common ingredient in insecticides, the fact that clocks happen to be used in some bombs is testament to their broad range of uses.
You know, cell phones are commonly used to make remote bomb triggers (for some of the bombs that don't have clock timers). Is every kid in that school carrying a cell phone intending to blow people up? Maybe we should put them all in cuffs until we can sort this mess out.
Why punish this kid? He did nothing wrong. Punish the hysterical school officials who lack the sense to tell a clock from a bomb for wasting police time.
Clearly you lack experience with cops.
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To whom it concerns,
I had to read this article about a boy who tinkers with electronics as a hobby:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-9th-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school-so-you-tried-to-make-a-bomb.ece
I hope it is not standard practice of the school to traumatize kids the way this has been dealt with. Kids who take up interests in sciences should be supported. Not jailed.
Remember the 2007 Boston 'bomb'? The LED light sign advertising Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
When they realized they were just signs, and the police chief and mayor had been idiots, they switched the claim to "intent to plant a hoax device to cause panic", so the panic they were spreading by claiming it was a bomb, they then twisted that to pretend that panic came from the people placing the LED signs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Boston_bomb_scare
They dig a hole for themselves, and they dig it deeper and deeper until they come across as unfit to run a city or school.
Here, you see the same thing:
"Ahmed never claimed his device was anything but a clock, said police spokesman James McLellan. And police have no reason to think it was dangerous. But officers still didn’t believe Ahmed was giving them the whole story."
“We have no information that he claimed it was a bomb,” McLellan said. “He kept maintaining it was a clock, but there was no broader explanation.”
"Asked what broader explanation the boy could have given, the spokesman explained:"
“It could reasonably be mistaken as a device if left in a bathroom or under a car. The concern was, what was this thing built for? Do we take him into custody?”
******
They know its not a bomb, so they go for the "might be mistaken for a bomb if placed under a car" angle. Some fictional extra bit, that might turn a non-bomb into something that might be mistaken for a bomb by someone as idiot as themselves.
I'm better they watch Fox News.
Salem Witch Trials, Mass Murder of Scientists, Islamophobia, 2007 Boston Bomb Scare, and now this.
The teacher confiscated the "bomb" which sat in their drawer until the end of class when it was taken to administration. If the teacher truly believed that the device could have even remotely been a bomb, they would not have touched it, would have evacuated the school, and would have called bomb squad. The teacher, the administration, and the police are complicit in perpetuating a fraud - a fraud against a child.
Even in the case that the clock resembled a "movie bomb" or was purposely contracted to do so, the child did nothing wrong as long as he didn't hint at it being a bomb or use it to threaten anyone. There are plenty of clocks on the market that resemble a bomb. Yes, it may have been a lark. Yes, it may have been a protest to create awareness. No, it wasn't malicious. No, it wasn't threatening. And no, it obviously wasn't convincing.
I seriously hope that he follows in his father's footsteps and keeps challenging the status quo.
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Land of the free? Nope.
Home of the brave? Haha nope.
"He’s vowed never to take an invention to school again."
Reading that article gave me a sick feeling in my stomach. It sounded like they were describing a grisly murder when they were detailing the exact manner in which a school's ignorance and racism crushed the spirit and enthusiasm of a smart and motivated kid. Then I read that last line. That might be one of the most profoundly sad things I've ever read.
Maybe the people educating our youth shouldn't be basing their opinion of what is and isn't dangerous from Hollywood movies? Just a thought...
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
or they would have evacuated the school and sent in the bomb-squad. They knew it wasn't a bomb the entire time.
Jose Parra
2621 W. Airport Freeway
Irving, TX 75062
Perhaps they just haven't seen many before, and it would be helpful if we all mailed Dr. Parra a clock so that he could have a baseline for what a clock might look like. Breadboard or wire-wrapped versions preferred.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
The school system had the kid arrested. They suspended him for three days and forced him to sign a statement under duress. They allowed the police to interrogate him, on school property, without legal representation or the presence of an adult guardian. You know what they never did?
Evacuate the school
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I've actually been thinking about this quite a bit lately, and I've come to the conclusion that this is really how America ends. Wallowing in its own stupidity, locked down by the authorities because we're afraid of everything we don't understand (which is everything, due to ignorance), and decrying any interest in something other than pop culture as suspicious.
When I was a kid some forty years ago, it was still possible to learn, make, see, and do things without nine layers of security clearances and being met with "you can't do X because terrorists/drugs" at every turn. Now, the only reasonable explanation for why you're interested in something is because you do it for work. And because some company makes you do it for money, now it's suddenly okay. Building anything with wires sticking out that beeps? Terrorist.
Learning chemistry at home? Terrorist or maybe the next Walter White. Interest in trucks/trains/planes and not a truck driver/engineer/pilot? Terrorist. Interested in power generation/distribution but not a power EE? Terrorist. Interested in computer security research? Cyberterrorist! Aiieeee! I could go on and on and on here...
Hey wait a minute - you know how most of the good people in those fields got there? Because it's what interested them before they did it as a job. In the past, there were always ways to learn about these things, particularly as a kid. Folks willing to show you around, show you what they did, explain how things worked, and sometimes let you help. I can't tell you the number of things I got to try out as a kid that would now get somebody fired and probably grilled by some three letter agency. But it's because of those experiences that I'm a successful electrical engineer today who loves it as both his profession and passion. I didn't just pick a job off the list, say "that looks good and pays well", and then decide to spend my life doing it. The folks I know who did that have already washed out and gone looking for something they enjoy more.
The next generation is boned. Their curiosity about things is being actively destroyed when its met with suspicion and investigation rather than encouragement or better - "Ssh, don't tell anybody, but put this hard hat on and come with me..." This is just one example.
Yeah, there's definitely a racist problem here as well (it *IS* Texas, folks...), but I think focusing on that is missing the real point. It's not just non-white kids. The powers that be have taught us to regard everything with suspicion rather than curiosity. Yet I ask you - how many kids have you seen today who are terrorists vs. how many have you seen who need to learn about the world and figure out what they want to do with their lives?
An ammonium nitrate and fuel oil mix (easy homemade explosive) has something around 40 megajoules per liter energy density.
That's nice in theory but I can tell you in practice (from when I was much younger) with that exact material in that kind of volume you don't get much of a boom.
Don't forget we are talking about what fits INSIDE a pencil case, so the equivalent of say 10 No2 pencils...
Telling people that something with the internal volume of a fewof hand grenades
The reason hand grenades are dangerous is because of the very thick and heavy metal shrapnel, not the explosion. The volume inside a pencil case IS less than a single hand grenade, and the "shrapnel" from the explosion wouldn't penetrate most clothing beyond a foot or two.
It's sad that movies have given people a totally unrealistic idea of what is possible with explosives...
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your numbers are laughably wrong. or, they would be laughable, if they weren't so horribly racist.
if there were "literally millions" of radical muslims that wanted to kill you, we would all be totally fucked. thankfully, the ACTUAL number of radical terrorists is incredibly low, as can be seen by the fact that actual terrorist attacks are virtually nonexistant. a statistical blip. you are far more likely to die from a lightning strike.