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Google Shows Off 2 New Nexus Phones, a New Pixel, and More
Two of the products officially unveiled at Google's much-anticipated (at least much-hyped) release announcement were widely and correctly predicted: a pair of new Nexus phones. The flagship is the all-metal Huawei 6P, with a 5.7" AMOLED display (2,560x1,440), 3GB of RAM, and a Snapdragon 810 chip. The Huawei overshadows the nonetheless respectable second offering, the LG-made Nexus 5X, which makes concessions in the form of less RAM (2GB instead of the 6P's 3), smaller battery (2700mAh, instead of 3450) and a lesser Snapdragon chip inside (808, rather than 810). Both phones, though, come with USB-C and with a big upgrade for a line of phones not generally praised for its cameras: a large-pixel 12.3-megapixel Sony camera sensor. Much less predicted: Google announced a new bearer for the Pixel name, after its line of high-end Chromebooks; today's entrant is a tablet, not running Chrome, and it's running Android rather than Chrome OS. The Pixel C tablet will debut sometime later this year; google touts it as "the first Android tablet built end-to-end by Google." Also on the agenda today, news that Android 6 will start hitting Nexus devices next week.
There are both good and bad things about the new Nexus 5X.
Good things: improved CPU/GPU, good camera (but no OIS, although they say they can't because it's 1.55um pixels), good battery, fingerprint reader, USB type-C.
Okay things: similar screen, same amount of RAM, same amount of storage (I assume hatred for 16gb), no SD storage as before.
Negative things: no OIS (as above), no wireless charging (a deal breaker, for many).
Overall seems like a pretty decent device given the price, but there is room they could have improved.
I'm disappointed by the lack of wireless charging on both the 5X and 6P. Sure, wired USB-C charging may be faster that wireless and the omnidirectional connector is more convenient than Micro-USB, but still, I like being able to drop the phone on my nightstand in the dark without fumbling for cables.
I think I'll wait to see how badly this does on my older Nexus 7.
My experience is Google might want to push it to me, but that the device stands a pretty good chance of being rendered useless with an update which is either badly tested or too damned slow.
Besides, day 1 updates are for suckers who don't realize they get to be the beta testers and find all the problems.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
It would have been much better going Chrome instead of Android. Blown-up phone apps are horrendous on Android tablets. Why would a keyboard cost so much? With all these new keyboard, pen attachments with Tablets, I think MS was on right track on Surface (not the pro). But was executed as usual badly.
"Incorporating a unibody build, it doesn't look like you'll be able to remove the back cover or battery"
Stopped reading right there - do not want.
Battery life and good design are more valuable to the majority of users.
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LG G3s are going for much less money these days, both used and new. They are at the end of their store-shelf life and that's the best time to buy them because the stores and carriers are throwing money a you to buy them.
About the only thing the 5P has on the G3 is the processor but honestly, the processor in my N5 is good enough for me. I don't game or compute PI or do theoretical physics on it. Just about everything else on the G3 is better than the 5P, most notably the 128GB SD card slot. As much as I love the Nexus line, I'm really coming to hate that lack of SD card slot.
So what if the 5P has USB-C. There's nothing about my N5's USB that leaves me wanting.
I don't get why people are so enamored with "wireless" charging.
I put that in scare-quotes because the wireless charging pads all have cords. So instead of just a cord, you have a cord and a pad...
The Apple Watch has wireless charging and I don't find it any handier than using a cable. It can look cleaner but I don't see that it really gets you much.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
They didn't need to. If you need more storage just pop an SD-card in. Oh. Wait...
No microSD, no thanks. You'd think Google would have gotten the memo by now.
I'm all over the $35.00 Chromecast audio dongles as I've got plenty of good speakers lying around. Would have been nice if they could be battery powered... we'll see how long one lasts on the usb charging port of the Klipsch KMC1. Even so.... we can now get synchronized, multi-room sound at a far more affordable price than a Sonos system.
It seems Google is ignoring those people who don't want a HUGE phone. The two models should have been the giant screened phone, and a smaller phone for those who like to actually be able to climb stairs with it in their pocket.
Hi Google, I have been using Nexus 5 since Nov-15. However, no OIS means I am skipping these two phones. See you next year unless I get tempted by the dark side.
They didn't make a 64GB phone because nobody would have bought it outside of this slashdot conversation.
Even though it's wildly off-topic, I guess I'm wondering why you would bother with a host file on each machine versus something at your router - just null-route the shit you would usually put in your host file and be done with it for the whole network at once.
But I guess maintaining a hosts file on hundreds of machines gives you something to do besides AC stalk people on Slashdot?
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
So very cute seeing you trying to claim that I am
"THE GREATEST COMPUTER SECURITY GUY (lol, NOT) on earth"
, something I have never claimed to be. But it is adorable to see you agreeing with yourself over and over again. Sockpuppeting as an AC just really makes my point for me.
I have not contradicted myself, and if you would go back and reread your posts, you would realize I simply stopped responding, which is not the same thing as you being right, no matter how often you claim it to be.
So, how does your hosts file prevent its user from being MiTM attacked by you yourself? Are we as users supposed to go through your 11 mb (according to you) hosts file to make sure you didn't put in an entry for Bank of America or some other banking site that points to your personal server? Or are you claiming we should just trust you?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
No, you're supposed to put all that stuff in the cloud. Then you're not supposed to worry about it when you get charged $$$ because you went way, way over your data plan allowance.
It is convenient not having to carry cables around with you.
I totally agree - which is still why I think cables are better.
In order not to have to carry around cables, I have charging cables set up at home, in the car, and at work...
If those were three charging pads I'd be spending more than I am with cables! For any place you might put a charging pad, there is very little difference to me between putting in a pad and a permanent cable - except the pad is more expensive. It doesn't even look better because wires are still running to hit, though there is some furniture that attempts to artfully hide that. But there is far cables also...
If I do need to carry a cable just in case, cables are much less bulky than even small charging pads.
I have to admit though none of that matters much because I have a large phone now and never really need to charge it during the day.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The Pixel C is almost exactly the A5 ISO paper size. The display is 2560x1800 at 308ppi, and the speaker even mentions the sqrt(2) aspect ratio, so this isn't likely to be a coincidence. Another attractive device, following the 3:2 (2560x1700) Pixel. It is unfortunate that more manufacturers don't follow suit and insist on using TV resolutions.
Sadly, the usual complaints apply: no pen/digitizer, and pitiful storage options. Also disappointing is the still missing nexus7, which was a very nice device at reasonable price point. An A6 replacement for the 16:10 nexus7 would be welcome. The size would be only a bit larger, but with a better aspect ratio for print or web pages.
So in other words you have no response to what I said. Good to hear.
I have not contradicted myself, and if you would go back and reread your posts, you would realize I simply stopped responding, which is not the same thing as you being right, no matter how often you claim it to be.
So, how does your hosts file prevent its user from being MiTM attacked by you yourself? Are we as users supposed to go through your 11 mb (according to you) hosts file to make sure you didn't put in an entry for Bank of America or some other banking site that points to your personal server? Or are you claiming we should just trust you?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
I recommended a DNS zone file, but to APK it is far easier to load a hosts file across a domain.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
A holster doesn't change the fact that I can't operate it with one handed, or that it looks like I'm holding a tablet to my ear while using it, or won't fit in a small clutch. I'm not wearing a holster with a formal/party dress. I want a phone to communicate when I need to, maybe check the weather, look something up or take a picture, not carry a full on portable computer or tablet. If I need that on a job, I take a tablet or computer with me.
Companies need to get it through their heads that many people have very legitimate reasons why they don't want a massive device. That doesn't mean I don't want the latest OS (don't even get me started on this), or a good camera/screen/processor/storage/memory. I just want it all in a smaller device.
I love my Nexus 5.1 except I really wanted some additional storage and some additional battery life. Otherwise it has been a fantastic phone, best I have ever used. Price was amazing. Great quality. Perfect size. Decent camera. Fast processor. Good signaling.
I have been excited to see what comes next... last year they decided all people suddenly want only large phones (6). Now the next Nexus 5 (5x) comes out and it is 16 or 32GB storage still? Two years later- it is almost 2016 and they offer only 16 or 32??? And same 2GB of memory? That for me is bad enough, but NO WIRELESS CHARGING???? That is a feature I absolutely love and use every day. Are they out of their minds?
Meanwhile the Nexus 6p has 64 and even 128GB storage and 3GB RAM? Why is it there is still this belief by most manufacturers that a smaller phone has to be lobotomized? WHY?
I am INCREDIBLY disappointed :( FAIL.
Wow. It took you 30,000 likes of code to manage your hosts file? Talk about inefficiencies. Jesus you suck.
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
So your response is that a user who is concerned about the safety of your hosts file should look through the millions of records just to verify them; every time there is an update as well. Have you ever actually thought this through? Do you even look through the hosts file that is generated by whatever script you use to combine your sources?
It sounds like you really have a handle on this security thing. All it would take is one of your sources to be compromised, and everyone who uses your software is compromised as well. I guess I am glad I don't use it, and will continue recommending against its use.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
In a properly configured domain, the users shouldn't be able to edit your hosts file anyways, so why should the ease of editing it be any factor? DNS zones are much easier than writing a script or setting up a GPO to distribute a hosts file to a domain. Editing DNS is actually even easier than editing a hosts file anyways, so I'm not sure why you would say that the ease even matters.
DNS is required for Windows domains, so its resource usage is already a sunk cost, also, having one copy of the database vs hundreds or thousands means you are saving resources massively over a distributed copy of a hosts file.
You should tell Google about how much of a security problem running the 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 servers causes, I'm sure you are smarter than everyone there and can show them the error of their ways. But for those of us that live in the real world, we know that DNS is required to properly run the internet, and without it we wouldn't have the plethora of services we currently have on the internet.
What does exploitation of an individual router have to do with anything? Windows was exploited yesterday, so we shouldn't use computers anymore, they just aren't safe. I didn't recommend the router method anyways, that was MachineShedFred. But the exploitation of a single router doesn't change what he said, which is a valid way of blocking traffic going to or coming from sites. Since you are so concerned about the exploitation of a router and using that as an argument against using them, I am guessing you will discontinue use of every computer around you as they are very easily exploited.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Prove your security chops yourself. Where is your CISSP? Where is your CISM? GSEC? Security+? CEH?
I don't have this need for internet tough guy acts like you, I have said my experience, now prove yourself if it is so important to you.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
So in other words, you have no proof of your security training. It is good to hear that you admit to your lack of security knowledge.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Users editing host files?
If we're talking about security, that starts with making sure your users can't just edit system files as they please. This is true for all platforms, ever; and possible on all current platforms up to and including Windows.
If some shit website that a user clicks on can just patch a DLL because you gave them admin, why the hell are you arguing about the damn hosts file?
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
menial monkeys
menials like YOU
YOU ARE HELPLESS
YOU are a rookie noob wannabe menial & "ne'er-do-well"
little "ne'er-do-well"
So, still all you can do is insult, while still not getting it. I see now what I am dealing with.
Used by thousands? lol
Perhaps you should peruse:
http://iase.disa.mil/stigs/Pag...
That is the definitive security guide. I'll bet nowhere in there it says to use a hosts file.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
I would suggest that for mobile devices, dealing with dns based blocking at the local router/dns level only works when you are home. Device based dns blocking works even when you're using public wifi. Alternatively, one could set up an outside facing(hosted perhaps) DNS server and make sure your devices use a static DNS pointed at your server, but I'm not sure that's worth it for 2 mobile devices.
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JimFive
Please stop using the word theory when you mean hypothesis.