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Google Helped Cause the Mysterious Increase In 911 Calls SF Asked It To Solve (bbc.com)

theodp writes: Android users have long complained publicly that it's way too easy to accidentally dial 911. So it's pretty astonishing that it took a team of Google Researchers and San Francisco Department of Emergency Management government employees to figure out that butt-dialing was increasing the number of 911 calls. The Google 9-1-1 Team presented its results in How Googlers helped San Francisco Use Data Science to Understand a Surge in 911 Calls, a Google-sponsored presentation at the Code for America Summit, and in San Francisco's 9-1-1 Call Volume Increase, an accompanying 26-page paper.

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  1. Simple by JMJimmy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many Android phones when you press the power button the screen activates with the "Emergency Call" touchable which means it easily enters calling mode. Since emergency services is the only valid call you can make from that screen those are the "butt dials" getting through.

    More annoying is the fact that holding the power button, something that seems to happen often in my pocket, brings up the "silent/airplane mode/power off" options without having to enter the pass key. I've missed so many calls because of this damn "feature". It's a combination of bad phone design and bad software design.

    1. Re:Simple by EthanDemurs · · Score: 1

      I've had this happen to me a few times, though it was never a problem. Try designating a pocket solely for your phone.

    2. Re:Simple by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      It is solely for my phone... it's the pressure when I kneel down against the outside of the pant leg. With my phone the power button is on the top corner so it seems very easy to trigger in this way. There should be a two button option for problem phones (software) and/or a button that has guards at either end to prevent evenly distributed pressure from pressing the button (hardware).

    3. Re: Simple by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      It happens most often in khakis - ie: standard business wear. Also in relaxed fit jeans.

    4. Re:Simple by EthanDemurs · · Score: 1

      You could always buy pocket T-shirts. It's certainly not the most fashionable solution, I admit.

    5. Re:Simple by hackwrench · · Score: 1

      Which pockets do you put things in? I don't understand why people prefer their back pockets to put things into, or else back pocket dialing wouldn't be a thing.

    6. Re:Simple by lucm · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why people prefer their back pockets to put things into

      They try to look like 18 years old chicks, that's why

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    7. Re:Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      My new phone has this problem. The "home" button also acts as an extra power button. There's no need for an extra power button, but apparently they thought it was convenient. But in Lollipop the option to disable that extra power button is removed; you are stuck with it unless you root the phone. So this means the phone can easily power itself on even when it's in your pocket. I have often found myself walking around and hearing a blipping sound coming from my pocket, only to notice that it was trying to let me type in an emergency dial number (and sometimes there is a warning that "133113313122" is not a known emergency number). Sure, I can put a bulky case around it, but then it ruins the point of having a nice phone that fits comfortably in the pocket, and many of the cases interfere with touch screen at the bottom edge or the fingerprint reader.

      I do not understand the attitude from phone and operating system suppliers that they must remove customization and options with each release. Customization is a good thing to have! But I suspect in a few years we'll have just one button for convenience, and it'll be pushed before it leaves the factory.

    8. Re:Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      This does not work. You already designate a pocket only for your phone if you don't want it to be horribly scratched up by your pocket change and keys. This power on accidentally happens in the front pocket, especialy on my phone where the "home" key also doubles as an extra power button. I've slowly gotten a habit of taking the phone out of my pocket when I tie my shoes in the morning, but a couple of times that has led me to forget and leave the phone behind.

      This is without having a bulky case to wrap around the phone though.

    9. Re: Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      This happens to me when I'm wearing loose grandpa jeans. I suspect it doesn't happen with khakis or suit pants, but it definitely does not have to be tight pants for this to happen. It doesn't take much pressure at all to push the power buttons, if it did take pressure someone would complain and then the next model of phone would be back to a hair trigger.

    10. Re:Simple by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Which phone? I've got a Nexus 5 on pure Lollipop and it doesn't exhibit that behavior. Pressing the Home button sends you back to your home screen, or locks the device (from the lock screen - I have Smart Lock enabled). Long-pressing it does nothing. Swiping the home button up takes me to the Google Now screen. I think you're dealing with a modification to Android made by a phone manufacturer or carrier.

    11. Re:Simple by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Many people don't value ergonomics as much as it should be. Most of these annoying problems, and a lot of others, have never been part of the iPhone/iOS, even in the early devices. The iPhone/iOS is still far ahead of Android in terms of ergonomics.

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    12. Re:Simple by toejam13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have the same problem as you. The emergency call button is too easy to activate and the power menu can be activated without unlocking the screen. Both are design faults. Some third party Android editions remedy the second problem, but not the first.

      My ancient Nokia brick phones had a screen lock. They also had a bypass for emergency calls. But instead of automatically dialing 911/999, it brought you to the dialer screen. The only number you could enter was 911/999. Anything else would prompt for the unlock code.

      I've seen people argue that dialing emergency services should be as simple as possible, that a catastrophic injury might make navigating menus and dialers difficult. For every scenario like that, how many times have emergency call centers run out of free operators, with a butt dialer or two being enough to push them to capacity?

    13. Re:Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It's Samsung, and the home doubling as power button is a Samsung feature. But you used to be able to remap it, until the Lollipop release. So not really Google's fault per se, but a continuing part of the trend to remove control and customization from users.

      However, once a phone does get powered on and it's still in your pocket, then all sorts of problems will happen. There must be a way by law to dial an emergency number if if you can't unlock it (ie, you don't know the PIN or can't type it, say you pulled the phone out of someone's pocket who's having a seizure). Since everything is touch screen based now, just light jostling in the pocket is enough to make things start to happen. To emergency dial you just drag the phone symbol up about an inch, then typing a number is just basic tapping. When the phone was new you could also turn on the camera this way.

      I never butt/pocket dialed with it, but it did happen on an older HTC phone that was more normal in how you turned it on. I got a call back from the 911 operators asking if I had a problem or not. Embarrassing.

    14. Re:Simple by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They just need to change the button from a press to a slide or something like that... simple to access but not simple to accidentally press.

    15. Re:Simple by EthanDemurs · · Score: 1

      What if the software were to be redesigned to accept a particular rhythm of your choosing. Anything other than the chosen sequence would be ignored.

    16. Re:Simple by joker784 · · Score: 2

      There is also the recent case where "butt dialing" using Siri actually saved a guys life: http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

    17. Re: Simple by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You probably have metal pocket buttons that are sabotaging you. A capacitive touch screen should have minimum opportunity for this problem if alone in the pocket, so I'm assuming there is some metal getting in there. Maybe you just have too much pocket fluff buildup, and it is holding a charge.

    18. Re: Simple by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I find it works better to revert to an 80s wardrobe. With cargo pants I always can choose a decent pocket for each device.

    19. Re: Simple by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      They're called "grandma jeans." There is no such thing as "grandpa jeans." Grandpas wear normal jeans. Don't let homophobia destroy your communication ability. It is OK to wear grandma jeans.

    20. Re: Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Grandpa wore jeans, grandma wore overalls, and crazy uncle Joe wore his boots backwards.

    21. Re:Simple by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      There are numerous software solutions, you just have to root your phone and loose the warranty on it first.

    22. Re:Simple by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      I agree, and I find it especially ironic and hilarious when those same people complain because they keep breaking their phones screens.

    23. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I had an iPhone way back in the day and it was always calling people without my knowledge, usually those at or near the top of my contacts list.

      I've never had any of my Android phones do this, or call 911, but I imagine it's possible on certain phones. There are so many kinds of phones, so who knows?

    24. Re: Simple by TangoCharlie · · Score: 1

      While that is a very good idea, why can't I simply choose not to have the emergency dialer displayed on my lock screen?

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    25. Re:Simple by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      The case is what makes the difference for me ; without the case, I've had an occasion where the phone factory-reset itself ; not so hard on Android, only requires pushing the power and volume buttons in a particular order.

      With one of those flexible plastic shell cases, pushing the buttons requires more effort than a pants crease can manage.

    26. Re: Simple by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Because the emergency dialler requirement is not intended solely for the person who owns the phone. It's expected that any telephone that you pick up (land line or mobile) will work for emergency calls. This is also why landlines can still make emergency calls even if they are nominally disconnected by the phone company.

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    27. Re:Simple by c · · Score: 1

      They just need to change the button from a press to a slide or something like that

      Seems to be what they've done in 5.1.x... at least, nothing on the lock screen appears to respond to just a press or a press-and-hold. It's all slides or double-tap.

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    28. Re:Simple by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Would a tight warranty be better than a loose one? If it is loose, it might fall off the phone randomly.

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    29. Re:Simple by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      I don't understand it either. I keep my phone in either my shirt pocket or my front pants pocket. I don't want to sit on the damn thing.

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    30. Re:Simple by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      You're just holding it wrong.

      http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/m...

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    31. Re:Simple by omnichad · · Score: 1

      With my old non-smartphone 133113313122 was a valid emergency number! It would ignore all the wrong digits and see: 133113313122, and 112 is the international emergency number. And this was even with a keypad lock engaged. A good design would reset the dial string on an invalid entry. Instead, it could take hours to finish dialing the emergency number, but it would get dialed in my pocket.

    32. Re:Simple by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I've had a Nexus 5. It doesn't have a hardware home button.

    33. Re: Simple by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      why can't I simply choose not to have the emergency dialer displayed on my lock screen?

      Because the phone must be able to dial 911 even if it's locked. That's the law.

    34. Re:Simple by ultranova · · Score: 1

      A good design would reset the dial string on an invalid entry.

      What if your hands are shaking because you're dying because the terrorist who's trying to nuke New York just shot you, and you need to warn Bruce Willis before you do? Getting right 3 in a row might be quite hard in those circumstances. So it's not really a good design, unless you want the nuclear terrorists to win.

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    35. Re:Simple by omnichad · · Score: 1

      You tell my local dispatcher to be more forgiving of butt-dialers, then. They're the ones letting the terrorists win. Instead, they literally told me to buy a new phone.

    36. Re:Simple by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Well then, if there's a possibility of a real emergency then those phones should be constantly connected to the hotline, 24/7. They just keep listening until someone says "help, I can't touch my phone or interact with it but tell someone that the aliens are landing!"

    37. Re: Simple by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about US federal law or some state or local law?

      The reason I ask is because I tested some copper phone jacks that once-upon-a-time had landline service to them but no longer have service, and there is no dialtone (but there is still power to make the lights on the phone light up). Thinking that perhaps one could still call 911 without a dialtone, but not wanting to waste EMS time handling a bogus call I contacted Verizon support (1-800-VERIZON) to ask.

      The representative I spoke with said that a disconnected landline cannot dial 911; that the requirement to be able to do so holds only for wireless phones.

    38. Re: Simple by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      Googling a bit (see, on-topic :-)) brought me to this from 2009:

      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/05/update-about-911-and-disconnected-landlines/index.htm

      At which time it appeared that NY State (where I tested this) was one of the states that had some sort of "soft-tone" requirement. Apparently that is no longer the case.

      As some of you have pointed out in our recent post, Using your cell phone as your home phone comes with a risk, some states do require local carriers to maintain a "soft" or "warm" dial tone, which allows you to call 911 on a line that has been disconnected or is otherwise inactive.

      An up-to-date-list of affected states is elusive; we struck out in obtaining one from the FCC and some industry groups. However, the following are likely states for some form of soft-tone requirement; we assembled the list from data in an FCC report published in 2000 (Adobe Acrobat software required) and a North American Numbering Council (NANCE) report published in 2002 (link requires Microsoft Word or compatible word processing software).
      ...
      However, we can't confirm that coverage is in effect in all those states today. Also, some soft-tone coverage is limited, in time or other respects. For example, according to the NANCE report, emergency service in Oklahoma is mandated for only 30 days following the suspension of service. In Ohio, the period is only 14 days.

    39. Re: Simple by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Sorry kiddo, but I was there. Maybe your neighborhood was just behind the times? MC Hammer had his parachute pants, and people wanted to copy him but they didn't want the weird pants that nobody sold so they compromised with baggy cargo pants. I still have mine. I could fit a pack of 10 5.25" floppies in the big pocket.

    40. Re:Simple by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1
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    41. Re:Simple by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      Try a small pistol holster, maybe of the type that clips inside the waistband. They are strong enough that they should prevent the screen being triggered.
      I bet some of the holster makers already have some made for smartphones, just look around. If not you can probably find one that would work.

  2. Simpler by Edis+Krad · · Score: 1

    Or you could stop putting your phone in your pants pockets. Either or :3

    1. Re:Simpler by JMJimmy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sorry, not going to start carrying a murse.

    2. Re:Simpler by lucm · · Score: 5, Funny

      What about a belt clip? It worked for Batman.

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    3. Re:Simpler by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      These don't work well for the flat pda style of smart phones. Unless you make the thing extra bulky.

    4. Re:Simpler by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If a belt clip is dorky, then an arm sheath is douchey. And shirt pockets don't work if you have tee shirts (ie, 75% of silicon valley). Plus it falls out of shirt pockets when you bend down to tie your shoes.

    5. Re:Simpler by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Where the hell else can I carry it? I've got jeans and a t-shirt. The phone fits in my jeans pocket so that's the only logical place to put it. I guess I could get a belt clip and have it catch on everything but I think not. How about they could just make it where I have to actually unlock the screen to make a call? Problem solved!

    6. Re:Simpler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Those phone are so big these days, why can't they just put wheels on them? It's almost at the point where it's easier to carry my friends than my phone.

    7. Re:Simpler by slazzy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Agreed, I started glueing mine to my head, looks cool and I get better reception!

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    8. Re:Simpler by turbidostato · · Score: 2

      "Where the hell else can I carry it? I've got jeans and a t-shirt."

      That's exactly why I use a fisher-style vest in summer.

    9. Re:Simpler by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 1

      Slipons FTW!

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    10. Re: Simpler by Guignol · · Score: 1

      :)

    11. Re:Simpler by Pax681 · · Score: 2

      Where the hell else can I carry it? I've got jeans and a t-shirt. The phone fits in my jeans pocket so that's the only logical place to put it. I guess I could get a belt clip and have it catch on everything but I think not. How about they could just make it where I have to actually unlock the screen to make a call? Problem solved!

      fucking simple... I buy trousers (or pants to you yanks :P ) with my stuff in min... cargo trousers, the map pocket is great for yer phone when paired with bluetooth headset.
      I also buy shirts/tops at times with phone in mind.It's not rocket science
      But no... it always boils down to.. " WAAAAH... moan moan moan"
      So just for you..... have a gander at this

    12. Re:Simpler by Angeret · · Score: 1

      Heh-heh. Nice one. Bloody first world problems, eh? I've been using belt clips since my first mobile phone and never had the issues mentioned by people. Maybe I'm just not treating my costly hardware like cheap disposable rubbish. If using a belt clip makes me such a horrible person as noted by someone else earlier, well - fuck! It's not like they're the kind of person I'd want to meet, is it?

    13. Re:Simpler by PPalmgren · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If you can't put your phone in your front pocket where you won't ever butt dial and instead put it in your back pocket, news flash, you're already wearing a "murse." Its just in the form of ball-crushing tight pants with no space.

      Free the dangly appendages, wear more comfortable pants!

    14. Re:Simpler by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      I've been using belt clips since my first mobile phone and never had the issues mentioned by people.

      What I've been thinking all this time. I actually use a case with belt loops--that way it can't accidentally pop off my belt.

      No accidental dialing. No cracked or scratched screens. No lost phones. I've got very little sympathy for these people when a simple solution exists.

    15. Re:Simpler by PRMan · · Score: 1

      What about a belt clip? It worked for Batman.

      Why do you think I wear one?

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    16. Re:Simpler by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      I just had by Galaxy S5 fall out of my shirt pocket when I over to pick something up. $130 to repair the cracked screen. Kicking myself because i knew better than to put it in my shirt pocket to begin with. What is the best way to guarantee a phone doesn't get dropped? My daughter carries her iPhone 5s in her hand all the time and drops in almost daily. So far, she has succeeded in destroying a $90 Otter Box case, but not the phone itself.

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    17. Re:Simpler by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Put it in the pants pocket, it makes sense. However the phone makers, who are all shouting "you're holding it wrong!", probably disagree.

      And everyone is different too. I keep my keys in my pockets all the time. All day, all night, then I swap them to new pants. However my father would always remove all his change and keys from pockets when he got home and put them in a tray in the dining room, and retrieved in the morning. Other people put the phone on the nightstand. Some never put the phone down because they use it all day long.

      Smart phones are still new enough that we haven't figured them out yet.

    18. Re:Simpler by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

      Don't bend down in Silicon Valley.

    19. Re:Simpler by operagost · · Score: 1

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    20. Re:Simpler by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Except that I do keep it in my front pocket and it still "butt dials".

    21. Re:Simpler by Angeret · · Score: 1

      Nice. I don't wear a belt otherwise I might have gone that route myself. My current one is a very slim but solid 2-part plastic job with a ribbed surface for grip. (Ooer!) One part is good enough to stay on the back of the phone (Galaxy Note II) with cutouts for speaker & camera on the back, volume & power either side & plenty of space for 'phones, USB & S-Pen top & bottom and also has slightly raised edges to keep the screen from hitting ground if dropped on a flat surface. The other part has a ratchet rotating clip with a kickstand built in - can prop the phone up in landscape when inserted face out. Never had it pop off as the clip has a spring that would make a gin trap nervous. In the hand adds about 3mm width and nothing to length, mebbe about 1mm on depth, on the hip it's nigh undetectable with either a Bluetooth piece or a wired set with the cable running up under a T-shirt. I wear it 1 notch off vertical on the left hip and the phone is dead easy to pull or replace left handed (I'm a natural right) - draws almost like a pistol from a holster but without the corpses.

      It has to be the cheapest, thinnest, lightest thing I've ever used but still affords good protection. Think I paid about £5 for it. Certainly beats the Krusell ones I used to use for Nokia & HTC phones years back. I just don't see the problem with using either a belt or clip type - can't figure why people have so much against them, and like you say - no issues at all with mis-dials or damage and I've had this phone two & a half years, some of that spent in a electrical engineering environment shunting heavy switchgear about.

    22. Re:Simpler by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

      Except that I do keep it in my front pocket and it still "butt dials".

      Wow, you must have a really big butt, if it reaches all the way to the front pockets ;-)

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  3. It was a short presentation by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Full transcript of Google's remarks follow:

    Uhh... We're sorry. We're really, really sorry.

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  4. Re:Or... by sectokia · · Score: 1

    Yes the iPhone and software are perfect and not a contributing factor, you are just pocketing it wrong.

  5. It's your ass calling by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Help! My owner has me trapped in these tight jeans!"

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  6. Re:Or... by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

    You could, maybe, stop wearing those ridiculously uncomfortable skinny jeans and actually leave "room" for your phone, in a FRONT pocket?

    I've never worn skinny jeans in my life and always put it in my front pocket and unintentional calls/commands happen a LOT.

  7. Re:Or... by lucm · · Score: 1

    You could, maybe, stop wearing those ridiculously uncomfortable skinny jeans and actually leave "room" for your phone, in a FRONT pocket?

    Impractical. How are you supposed to play "pocket pool" if you start putting stuff in your front pockets?

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  8. Butt dialing is easy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Butt texting... now THAT"S a challenge.

    1. Re:Butt dialing is easy... by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      But, is it that much harder than talking out your ass?

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  9. Re:It took a team? by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Read the document instead of relying on a poor, click-baiting summary. There's an actual problem with ass callers.

    Although the source data (i.e., whether a call is coming from a landline, cellphone or business) can be passed from the telephone system to the CAD system, technical issues can require human intervention to capture this data in CAD. For example, in 2014, DEM discovered that telephone routers could take 2-8 seconds to transmit ANI/ALI information (which includes source data) to dispatcher phones. However, if ANI/ALI information is not present at the time the dispatcher begins typing in the CAD Incident Entry window, source data is not captured, and dispatchers would need to manually port source data into the CAD Incident Entry window. Given this, source data (particularly for wireless calls, labeled as “W911”) was lacking in the CAD dataset which impacted the ability to identify the number CAD incidents created from wireless calls. Correspondingly, the number of CAD incidents resulting from wireless calls is significantly underrepresented, given that ~60% of DEM’s call volume comes from wireless phones.

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  10. Why have emergency call at all? by Kpt+Kill · · Score: 1

    Emergency Call on my phone takes you to a screen where you can dial only previously manually entered emergency numbers.... on my phone, its empty. I still don't understand why on my device I have no choice on whether or not to have "emergency call" appear on the lock screen.

    1. Re:Why have emergency call at all? by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      Isn't there some US law that all phones have to be able to make 911 calls?

    2. Re:Why have emergency call at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      IIRC it's because all cellphones are mandated by law to be able to make 911 calls even if they're locked, out of service or even SIMless.

      My Android phone can make emergency calls even before the phone's main storage area is decrypted at bootup.

  11. Re:Google phones cause death by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    Are there really that many butt dials to 911? Enough to flood the system?

  12. blackberry... by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

    I accidentally emergency called 911 on a blackberry a few years back. I have no idea how long the call was going before I realized it was on, but there was nobody on the other end.

    1. Re:blackberry... by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      There is a reason that people use "flip-phones", the cover protects the keyboard.

  13. It's the Toyota debacle all over again by s4ltyd0g · · Score: 1

    "Peoples butts are too fat"

  14. Re:Google phones cause death by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

    how many does it take to flood the system?. I would expect in a relatively small volume to be extremely problematic tying up a considerable number of staff, after all they can't just hang up on the person immediately as it could be someone injured struggling to speak or someone in trouble silently dialing in the hope of someone listening in and providing assistance.

  15. Re:It took a team? by lucm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your translation is wrong. The problem is not the 911 software. The problem is the delay in getting the caller id from the PSTN, and this is not something they can accelerate from the 911 data center.

    Imagine that your boss tells you that he wants to receive emails within one second of any client or potential customer sending them. The problem is not his Thunderbird or Outlook settings, the problem is that email has to cross multiple boundaries, from one ISP to another, from one SMTP server to another, and nobody has control over the entire process.

    In the case of 911, how can they fix it? Operators get thousands of hang up calls for which they don't get the caller id immediately when the form pops up on their screen. Instead of spending 20 seconds tidying up the call information they dismiss it with the "ass caller" flag. The call is logged but no details are entered in the database, and while technically they probably are able to reconcile calls using the switch logs or some other mean, it's just a huge pain in the ass that nobody has the budget to deal with. Typical big data problem.

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  16. Re:Google phones cause death by darronb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was out in the woods one day and sitting on a hill for a while. I thought I heard some noise from my pocket, so I checked my phone. I had a voicemail from 911 saying something to the effect of "This is the third time you've called 911! Please check your damn phone!"

    I checked my phone and it had two outgoing calls to 911 in the list. I was pretty horrified.

    They obviously were familiar with butt dials. However, what if I was injured and unable to speak? Hopefully they could tell the difference. At least I didn't get a helicopter flying over me or something.

    The ease at which the phones can dial 911 is absolutely stupid... it's absolutely Google's fault. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to make it harder to do accidentally, but still easy enough to do if you're injured/impaired.

  17. Re:It took a team? by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 2

    Read the document instead of relying on a poor, click-baiting summary. There's an actual problem with ass callers.

    I believe the collective term for these callers is 'ass-clowns'.

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  18. Re:It took a team? by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 1

    also: for the record the difference between an ass-clown and an ass-bandit is red-nose vs bandanna!

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  19. "butt dial" or pocket dial ? by GodWasAnAlien · · Score: 1

    I thought the generic term is pocket dial.

    I'm guessing that "butt dialing" is more for girls or others who wear skinny jeans or those who enjoy sitting on the phone.
    I am also guessing that skinny jeans and "butt"-dialing does not usually apply to slashdot users.

    1. Re:"butt dial" or pocket dial ? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      In my case it's definitely "pocket-dial". I have it in the wrong pocket to "butt-dial" anything.

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    2. Re:"butt dial" or pocket dial ? by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      You prefer to irradiate your anus?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

  20. Android's Achilles Heel by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My biggest gripe with using an Android phone is that the phone unlocks during calls even when they placed/answered via a hands-free Bluetooth device. Answering a call via Bluetooth with your phone in your pocket unlocks it and starts feeding the UI random screen clicks. People have been filing bugs to the Android team over this issue since 2011 and it has never been addressed, and the newer bugs keep getting pushed to lower and lower priority. Its safe to say at this point that Android butt dialing is now a feature and is included by design.

    1. Re:Android's Achilles Heel by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      People have been filing bugs to the Android team over this issue since 2011 and it has never been addressed, and the newer bugs keep getting pushed to lower and lower priority.

      I'm really starting to get pissed at this tendency. They let bugs that lots of people care about persist forever. For instance, there are actually two active bugs for pinless bluetooth pairing. This is a problem that actually predates gingerbread.

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  21. Re:Or... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

    My Skinit Cargo case keeps this from happening. You actually have to purposely press the power button, in the years I've used that type of case I've never accidentally dialed anyone. And until two months ago when I dropped the phone face down onto a gravel covered concrete parking lot, the phone looked practically new. I'm sure other cases provide similar protection.

  22. Re:Google phones cause death by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

    someday soon instead of a call back, a small drone will just show up. Not sure if that's a good thing or not, but it will happen.

  23. The obvious solution! by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 4, Funny

    is to change 911 to 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 instead. It's an easy number to remember, just learn the song!

    1. Re:The obvious solution! by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Or, what about an intelligent screening system that only routes the call to an operator if voice is detected. What could go wrong with that?

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    2. Re:The obvious solution! by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Might make it hard to call for assistance after that home invader ties you up and gags you.

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    3. Re:The obvious solution! by chaotixx · · Score: 1

      Calling is so last century. I just send a quick email when I need a fire extinguished.

  24. Re:Google phones cause death by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    Thanks! That's 3/4 down this thread and you're the first NOT to talk about looks or tight jeans, but about the actual problem!

    Phones are designed to male emergency calls easy - for exactly the reasons you noted. You may have to do a silent call or have an arm and a leg torn off and still need to be able to dial 911. Anything that makes it harder for your butt to dial 911 makes it harder in those situations, too.

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  25. Confirmation that no one at Google Android dev by BitZtream · · Score: 1

    Bothers reading bug reports or they would have fixed this issue 7 years ago when users first started reporting how shitty the lock screen configuration is

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  26. Re:It took a team? by BitZtream · · Score: 2

    I work for the sixth largest teleco in the US ... Phone number portion of caller-I'd comes during the call setup phase, the phone number has been sent before the call connects.

    CNAM dipping turns that number into a name and address using a third party service ... And we send billions of CNAM dip requests a day to them and get the response before call setup completes or we move on without it ... A quick look shows we had a grand total of 8 requests that failed yesterday after 150ms, they were retried and all completed the second try, total lookup time was never over 500 ms

    Anyone claiming it takes a long time to do CID lookups is a liar.

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  27. Never dialed 911 by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    But I did 3 pocket-dials in a short time. I have no idea how that happened, since my iPhone was locked. Those calls were to my GF and my mom, so it appeared to be accessing my Favorites, but how it did that is a mystery.

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  28. Re:It took a team? by omnichad · · Score: 1

    What are you talking about? Read your own quote:

    if ANI/ALI information is not present at the time the dispatcher begins typing in the CAD Incident Entry window, source data is not captured, and dispatchers would need to manually port source data into the CAD Incident Entry window

    That's a SOFTWARE issue, not a butt-dialing issue. When the information finally comes in, it can be recorded on the record asynchronously if the software is designed correctly.

  29. Re:9-1 extension by omnichad · · Score: 1

    You were dialing 9 to get an outside line you dummy. 1 is the long distance / US country code.

  30. Re:FUCK MY ASS WITH A GREASY YODA DOLL. FUCK YOU! by GTRacer · · Score: 1

    Where have you been? This is the sort of copypasta that made this place great back in the day!

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  31. Re: Or... by SScorpio · · Score: 1

    The HTC One M7 don't have a user accessible battery. It's hardwired to reboot the phone because otherwise a software glitch that crashes the phone could brick it until it ran out of power.

    I used to have a Morphie power case for mine, but the power button on it was even more sensitive. My wife with the same setup didn't have issues with her purse. But even the loose extra side pockets of cargo shorts would allow it to get pressed.

    My solution was figuring out that I didn't need the extra power from the case and switching to a $2 silicon case that makes the power button slightly recessed. I haven't had issues since.

  32. Flawed design by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

    I've had this problem myself and at first scratched my head at the odds of random brushes across the digitizer dialing only 911 then pushing call was even remotely possible. Then I realized there is practically no "debounce" and the random brushes are allowed to be registered at uselessly inhuman rates.

    Secondly a proximity sensor is present in all but about 15% of android devices. If the emergency dialer checked this sensor before pocket calling emergency services this problem would be significantly reduced. You could at the very least include an extra on-screen hoop such as long pressing keys that would only be activated if the sensor detected it was in a pocket so that emergency services could still be contacted even if the sensor malfunctioned.

    Another thing is the design just sucks.. if the goal is quickly and easily contact emergency services dialing 911 on a touch screen display can't be even remotely optimal. If your going to mandate anything it should be a single physical button intentionally engineered to be maximally both easy to use and resistant to unintentional use. Drop your phone, fall, get hit by something, get into an accident.. cracked displays and broken digitizers are by far the most vulnerable and failure prone components.. good luck making a call without them.

  33. Re:FUCK MY ASS WITH A GREASY YODA DOLL. FUCK YOU! by zwarte+piet · · Score: 1

    You must be new here.

  34. Re:9-1 extension by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    Way back in 2004 I worked in an office where you had to dial 9-1 before dialing an outside line. Try dialing a 1-800 number after that.

    At my office they changed the "9" to "8" to get an outside line, and I heard that was the reason.

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  35. Fundamental design flaws by aybiss · · Score: 1

    It's now possible to open an app by tapping its notification bar thingo on the front screen.

    You can't call it a lock screen any more because it doesn't fucking lock anything.

    I can guarantee that this idea was the brainchild of some UX hobgoblin.

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