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Walmart Open Sources Its Cloud Platform To Take On Amazon (walmartlabs.com)

Mickeycaskill writes: Walmart is effectively open sourcing its OneOps cloud platform, with the source code set to be uploaded to GitHub at the end of 2015. By making the cloud platform open source, Walmart is taking the fight to Amazon Web Services by giving developers a chance to avoid vendor lock-in. Walmart argues that OneOps has four main advantages: cloud portability, continuous lifecycle management, faster innovation, and great abstraction of cloud environments. The company says that the move should increase competition between cloud service vendors. "We're enabling any organization to achieve the same cloud portability and developer benefits that Walmart has enjoyed,"said Jeremy King, CTO of Walmart Global eCommerce and head of WalmartLabs.

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  1. mommy...what does that cloud look like? by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    lower prices.

    1. Re: mommy...what does that cloud look like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A virtual flotilla of rascal riding basement dwellers!

    2. Re:mommy...what does that cloud look like? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like meself some cloud for $9.99.

  2. Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by sexconker · · Score: 0

    WalMart and Amazon are fucking retail stores, not tech companies.
    I'm not trusting them or their "clouds" with my data.

    1. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually kind of expected the leaders in this area to be porn retailers, not general retailers.

    2. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by HairyNevus · · Score: 2

      That point holds true for Wal-Mart, but since Amazon has always been 100% Internet based (and especially after they started making Kindles) they do count as a tech company. Not saying you should trust their cloud, though.

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    3. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by NotInHere · · Score: 2, Informative

      Amazon is a tech company, Walmart isn't. I guess somewhere at Walmart HQ there has been a conversation like that:

      A) Damn! Our sales are dropping! Which company has taken our customers?
      B) I've heard of Amazon to be successful. Its an internet retail store.
      A) Can we buy some "Internet" for us too?
      B) Internet isn't bought, its a network for communication.
      A) Either way, can we roll it out?
      B) We could, but Amazon has a major head start and has much more experience in that field
      B) Also, they largely benefit from synergies from their cloud services.
      A) We have to get that experience too. And we must get those synergies!
      A) We must become better than them, and win them on their own game! We are longer in the business than those computer-kids!
      B) Ok, boss.

    4. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by QuadEddie · · Score: 1

      It's ok, don't both reading the article or even the summary. Just have a schizophrenic interpret the summary for you and then post your comment.

    5. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Walmart has enough money they can just do it like Microsoft does. Keep throwing money at it. Piles of cash have always made up for innovation and experience.

    6. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they have the funds just workers down to 20 hour weeks so they don't have to pay for the ACA.

    7. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course you just didn't see their earnings report and negative outlook.

    8. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      wal mart has been doing tech before there was an amazon. just not consumer side tech. they pioneered RFID back in the 90's

    9. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 1

      I suspect the piles of cash thing isn't really what's going on. Walmart has a huge revenue stream, but they're not known for pissing away cash. This probably has more to do with helping other companies "liberate" themselves from lock in from a single cloud provider (cough...AWS...cough) without having to pony up for something like cloud foundry. Looking forward to seeing the code.

    10. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. You've just had your head under a rock. In today's world, every company is a technology company.

    11. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Dude, go back to the cows.

      Walmart is first and foremost a tech company . Their computerized logistics chain is the essential technology that enables them to be a multinational behemoth rather than a typical regional discount store chain. This has been true for decades.

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    12. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Fail.

      Walmart is a tech company that happens to sell (a lot of) stuff. Walmart Information Systems Division is 3000+ people, including some highly trained developers, network and systems engineers, and information security specialists.

      It is one of the best tech firms I have worked for in my 35yr tech career. Don't believe me? Spend a week in Bentonville, AR (and another week in San Bruno, CA) and talk to some tech folks.

    13. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by joelito_pr · · Score: 1

      When I worked at Sam's I noticed that a lot of the applications we used were made in-house. I'm surprised they actually released something so publicly.

    14. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Walmart is doing something like $300,000,000,000 per year in sales now, yet I can buy something at a Walmart store, immediately go to a different store for a return and when they scan my receipt the order comes up immediately. All the while about $9500/second in transactions is being dumped into their database.

      Yes, they are a technology company.

      Amazon isn't as big but they're still doing amazing stuff, also a technology company.

    15. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tech Bubble 2.0. If you've looking for a job, you've got about 12 months before it pops. I suggest avoiding anything funded by advertising, or anything like this (though Amazon actually is entrenched enough for it to matter).

      Shit's gonna hit the fan for us soon enough. Save up, pay off debts, be sure you can weather a while with no job or a non-tech job that pays less than you earn now.

    16. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder if their IT staff get locked into the datacenters at night.

    17. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by haruchai · · Score: 1

      "Looking forward to seeing the code" - I remember when a lot of people said that about SAPdb, now called MaxDB.
      And then they did.......some of them got their brains fried and have never recovered.

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    18. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me Sir or Ma'am,
      You seem technically adept. Where can I find the pointy hair sharpeners? Oh, and I'm also looking for a Database. Preferably Mauve. Can you help me?

    19. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by andydread · · Score: 2

      THIS!! a thousand times. People have no clue how tightly controlled their logistics chain is and believe it or not they have some very high tech built in-house to get that beast to be as efficient as it is.

    20. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Playboy's virgin effort, SmutCloud, dispersed rapidly in the jet stream.

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    21. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walmart's IT systems are nothing is laugh at. They are probably just as complicated as Amazon. Walmart's expertise is in supply chain and inventory management and quality control. Amazon is an expert at providing more widgets.

    22. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by perpenso · · Score: 2

      Walmart went digital in the 1970s. Cash registers on a LAN to the mini in the back. The mini on a WAN to HQ. HQ getting complete register transaction histories from all stores every 15 min. Massive data mining to optimize store inventories for local preferences. Automated store ordering of products from a distribution center (DC), automated DC ordering of products from manufacturers (or transfer from another DC with excess inventory). Walmart pioneered this stuff. Its part of how they crushed the competition.

    23. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by lucm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Walmart is the biggest employer of H1B visa workers year after year.

      Foreign workers are not locked in a store, but they are locked in terrible work conditions, low-end housing and basically economic slavery. Meanwhile Walmart is getting in the cloud business to allegedly help customers avoid vendor "lock-in". The audacity of those people.

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    24. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      and everything gets real sticky, and then, while there's no vendor lock-in, no other cloud provider will touch it.

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    25. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you, joe_dragon?

    26. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Just because their stores are dingy and full of ugly people the hipsters assume they can't possibly be technically sophisticated behind the scenes.

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    27. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

      Amazon was an expert of getting the widget to my door without me leaving my couch.

      My time isn't free. Add up the time and fuel it takes to drive to Walmart the time it takes to shop Walmart and the time it takes sometimes just to check out. It's cheaper for me to have Amazon deliver a box of toilet paper exactly when I need it than to remember (and forget) to get some at Walmart.

      Amazon's figured out the 'last mile' to the customer. Walmart still puts that on me to get it from the end of their supply chain. Amazon makes sure it gets to my door.

      I'm waiting for someone to release reusable shipping containers. I should be able to schedule deliveries of products to my house not stand in line in my 'free time'.

    28. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by link-error · · Score: 1

      Cloudy with a chance for meatballs.... ewwww....

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    29. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

      If you didn't already know it, Walmart is planning to launch an Amazon Prime competitor: http://www.usatoday.com/story/...

      I don't think Jeff Bezos is good to his workers and I know the Walton family makes its money by grinding its rank and file employees into powder. So there are no heroes here. I think the fact that they're competing is good, I don't want to see either one establish a monopoly.

    30. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by tibit · · Score: 1

      OK, so they are super-efficient, so they should be able to pay their workers a living wage, right? Right? They can shove their efficiency in the Waltons' butts, as far as I care. It's an enterprise set up for the benefit of the sociopathic owners. It's a public company in name only.

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    31. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by jdavidb · · Score: 1

      And yet when I go to pickup something at site to store, their software still sucks, noone can use it, it lists everything we've ever ordered instead of just what is there to be picked up, and noone can find our order.

    32. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by andydread · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No! Their workers can go get a fucking education and get a job that pays them a living wage just like I did. When i first came to this country I worked 3 jobs (BK in the afternoons at 3.65/hr, back when minimum wage was 3.25/hr, McD's opening in the morning at 4.25/hr, and washing cars on the weekend) and put myself through school at night while working those 3 jobs because I made the determination at that time that I wasn't going to come all the way to America to be making anywhere near minimum wage when i'm 40

    33. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "No! Their workers can go get a fucking education and get a job that pays them a living wage just like I did."

      Yep, you tell that to the friends I have whom have Masters degrees in hard sciences yet can't get any fucking work at all EXCEPT at fast food places.

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    34. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it depends on where you go. Many of the stores in the South are dingy because the employees and customers are retards. West of the Mississippi, they all seem to be nice and clean. The ones in Mexico are great too...actually, I wish they would expand the "20 items or less" checkout queue concept to the US.

    35. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by tibit · · Score: 1

      All of them? Get off your high chair.

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    36. Re: Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by andydread · · Score: 1

      I don't think i'm that special. If I can do so can they.

    37. Re:Has The Whole World Gone Topsy Turvy? by securityVIP · · Score: 1

      WalMart and Amazon are fucking retail stores, not tech companies. I'm not trusting them or their "clouds" with my data.

      I am the security sup. for Amazon in Brazil. Actually Amazon has a much broader operation than it appears to the outside eyes. Amazon has a huge tech infra structure and an amazing security system for all information kept in its hd and ssds. I think Wall Mart will have to develop light years to reach the standards applied in the AWS. Experience counts a lot.

  3. I had to check the calendar.. by subk · · Score: 1

    ..To make sure this wasn't an April Fools' Joke!

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    1. Re:I had to check the calendar.. by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      No...It's the month that cloud computing finally jumps the shark.

  4. Little fluffy clouds by future+assassin · · Score: 0
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  5. Question by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    Forgive me for being ignorant, but if I download this 'Cloud platform', precisely what can I do with it?

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    1. Re:Question by synaptic · · Score: 1

      Well first, build a datacenter...

    2. Re:Question by synaptic · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, it appears to be an abstraction layer on top of the various public cloud APIs. So you could conceivably define an instance in OneOps and deploy that in Azure, Google Cloud, AWS, Helion, etc depending on your needs. I'm not sure how practical that will be in the real world though.

    3. Re:Question by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Read the source code. That's the benefit. Read it, understand it, reuse it, fork it...

      I'm not sure you understand the value of source code. Just having it is potentially valuable, even if all you do is provide it to someone who wants or needs it.

    4. Re:Question by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      An instance of what?

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    5. Re:Question by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's right. If you use this, then you won't be locked in to a single cloud vendor.
      Instead you'll be locked into Walmart's cloud platform. J/K it's open source, so devOps can keep you up; since devOps can do anything.

      It fascinates me that Walmart has such a serious software team, though.

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    6. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An instance of CLOUD! Haven't you been paying attention? CLOUD is the new black! ;-)

    7. Re:Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're famously too cheap to pay for individual hotel rooms for their managers. Did you think they were going to fork out whatever it is that Oracle or VMware charges?

  6. They're open-sourcing some library by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    Ala Netflix, Twitter, etc.. But it probably won't be popular. So in general it's good but in particular more of a meh.

  7. Good luck with that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Walmart can't even do online retail very well.. now they are just going to throw some code into the wind and expect it to result in competition for AWS? Yea... good luck with that one!

  8. There is a potential evil genius to this... by supremebob · · Score: 1

    Walmart and Walmart.com are probably starting to have problems making a decent profit margin on some products because Amazon.com is undercutting them on price. Amazon can do this because they don't have a giant store network with hundreds of thousands of employees to support, and they have a separate giant cloud hosting business to draw revenue from. They are also working on crazy new instant shipping options like bike and drone delivery that threaten Walmart's Brick and Mortar operations.

    Walmart's solution? Try to put a dent in Amazon's hosting business by offering an open source cloud hosting option! If it's successful, you just forced Amazon to offer cheaper cloud hosting to fend off the new competition. Amazon now has less revenue for new R&D, which hopefully keeps them from further expanding into other product offerings that compete with Walmart.

    If it works, it's a genius move. I'm not sure if they have the technical clout to pull it off, though. I guess that we'll have to wait for the code dump to GitHub to see.

    1. Re:There is a potential evil genius to this... by yes-but-no · · Score: 1

      yes, though initially it sounds counter intuitive; walmart knows how to keep the labor costs the bare minimum; it's in their DNA. When most of the tech part [say in a specific cloud solution] is commoditized, the major operating-expense is going to be labor. Walmart can drive this low as they are experts on how to do this. The competition may not have the time to react to this assault. Again the same force which drives the middle-class to vanish will work on the higher and higher white collar tech jobs.

  9. Game on Amazon, Google, Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows the top tech talent is in Bentonville, Ark.

    I mean, you're recruited up and down the west coast and New York City. The choice is clearly Bentonville.

    1. Re: Game on Amazon, Google, Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm, seems like with 'no tech talent', Walmart is somehow limping along....
      http://revenuesandprofits.com/amazon-vs-walmart-revenues-and-profits-1995-2014/

    2. Re: Game on Amazon, Google, Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that this is a &WalmartLabs product out of San Bruno and Sunnyvale in California.

  10. Instance = VPS by tepples · · Score: 1

    In cloud lingo, an "instance" means a "virtual private server", a VM running on someone else's computer.

    1. Re:Instance = VPS by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Oh so it's just for shuffling VMs around.

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    2. Re:Instance = VPS by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "Oh so it's just for shuffling VMs around."

      You haven't been in the need of shuffling VMs around lately or you wouldn't be using "just" to qualify the effort.

    3. Re:Instance = VPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like a container. All cool kinds nowadays use containers.

    4. Re:Instance = VPS by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      WeI support around 500 VMs but they're all hosted in our own datacenters so we're just using VMWare vMotion and stuff, nothing complicated. I'm kind of surprised the cloud is more complicated then that, I thought it was supposed to make things easier.

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    5. Re:Instance = VPS by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "WeI support around 500 VMs but they're all hosted in our own datacenters so we're just using VMWare vMotion and stuff"

      So you are locked to one provider (your own infrastucture). Now, if the need arise, try to move your 500 VMs (a candy, I dealt with x10 that number) to another provider. Then you'll understand what we are talking here.

  11. Wallmart by vasanth · · Score: 1

    I used to deal with Wallmart as a supplier.. Their order management system and accounts is very inefficient. My deliveries routinely get lost in their system and my payments are missed with no proper way to track them.. I have stopped doing business with them as they refuse to acknowledge that I have made certain deliveries for which I have not received payment. Their stores are sometime unable to generate GRN due to system inefficiencies.. I don't trust their IT systems at all..

  12. Typical people think "omg just a store" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The were able to nuke the competition back in the 1990s by being able to computerize and minimize expenses in the entire distribution system, including "just in time" inventory which allowed them to severely undercut all competitors in pricing by using science, statistics and analytics --- being able calibrate their entire supply chain.

  13. Actually Walmart is a tech company, a pioneer by perpenso · · Score: 3, Informative

    WalMart and Amazon are fucking retail stores, not tech companies. I'm not trusting them or their "clouds" with my data.

    Actually Walmart is a tech company, a pioneer in the field. Technical innovation had much to do with their success. They went digital in the 1970s, automated inventory tracking, electronic purchase orders and payments, data mining on sales, etc. All cash registers were reporting sales to a minicomputer in the back, every fifteen minutes the minicomputer sent the data to headquarters. Headquarters had near real time visibility on product sales and could view this data at various levels from national to regional to state to city to individual stores.

    This incredible near real time data is how they got huge multinational corporations to agree to buy into the Walmart digital supply chain, they offered them access to this near real time data for their corporation's products.

    They did extensive data mining. Using the behaviors observed to balance inventory between regional distribution centers. Again, automated. Hurricane forecasted for Florida and/or the Gulf. Shipping orders are automatically generated moving pop tarts from mid west distribution centers to Florida and Gulf distribution centers. Their data mining noticed a spike in pop tart sales, among other things, when hurricanes are forecast.

    1. Re:Actually Walmart is a tech company, a pioneer by coofercat · · Score: 2

      exactly as this thread shows, though, they have a perception problem. They may have arrived at having a cloud offering in the same was as Microsoft (ie. buy it in), but unlike Microsoft, to paraphrase a common expression, you can get fired for buying Wallmart.

      That said, if Wallmart could offer Amazon's list of services at the sort of lower price most people perceive Wallmart as offering, then it could get some traction (at least from the smaller companies).

  14. Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970s by perpenso · · Score: 5, Informative

    Walmart computerized their inventory, supply chain, ordering and payments back in the 1970s. This includes automation, inventory at a store gets to a certain level and a shipment order is automatically generated to resupply from a distribution center. Distribution center gets to a certain level and excess is transferred from other distribution centers or a digital purchase order gets sent to the product's manufacturer.

    Cash registers were networked to the minicomputer in the store, reporting all transactions. Stores were networked to HQ via satellite and reported sales every 15 minutes. HQ did massive data mining at national, regional, state and local levels. Optimizing store inventory for local tastes. Again, 1970s.

    Their data mining was such that recognized patterns were added to the automated supply chain management. For example when hurricanes are forecast pop tart sales spike in florida and the gulf. Their software monitors weather reports and when hurricanes are forecast they automatically ship pop tarts from midwest distribution centers to florida and the gulf.

    Amazon followed where Walmart pioneered. Don't be so sure Walmart can not pose a serious threat with respect to logistics and supply chain management.

    1. Re:Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970s by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

      Walmart is very much into efficiency.

      When they looked at buying trucks for their fleet 0.1% fuel savings could mean it millions in savings. It is very cutthroat between Cummins, Volvo and Detroit Diesel/Mercedes.

      Who stands to gain a lot from automated semis? Walmart. If they can get rid of a bunch of tired, overworked drivers overnight they wouldn't hesitate.

      I want to shop for groceries like I register for Wedding registries and just have it delivered. Walmart already has the supply chain in place for that. They're just missing the 'last mile'. Which for now means you have to go to a Walmart.

      The Walmart City could be a tiny footprint.store that has one of every non-food/perishable item. People in the city walk through with their Walmart branded Android Device on Walmart's MVNO. Use the phone like a barcode scanner and just pick what you want. Want 50 bottles of soda but don't want to deal with loading them into your car? Just hit "Qty. 50" and schedule your Walmart Valet Service delivery.

      Stuck in the mountains and need some matches? Order it on Walmart Express app and a Drone will be there in 2 hours or less.

      Don't underestimate a company with a lot to lose being backed into a corner.

    2. Re:Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970s by tibit · · Score: 1

      They may be competitive in the cloud service provider market, but they are such an unethical company that I personally simply refuse to deal with them.

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    3. Re:Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970s by CaptSlaq · · Score: 1

      They may be competitive in the cloud service provider market, but they are such an unethical company that I personally simply refuse to deal with them.

      And your alternative is...?

    4. Re:Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who are you referring to? Walmart or Amazon?

  15. A good thing... by m2pc · · Score: 1

    I personally believe this is a good thing. Walmart is #1 on the Fortune 500 list so they must be doing something right. Amazon.com is #29 on the same list BTW.

    Having worked in the ERP/Logistics space myself, you don't get to be as big as Walmart without some serious tech in place and working.

    If anything, maybe having more players in this space is good just for the competitive aspect; it will force others to lower their prices to lure customers!

  16. Re: Walmart pioneered digital supply chain in 1970 by afidel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yup, for many years the Walmart data warehouse was the largest in the world. They were the first to hit 1TB (in 1992!), 10TB, 100TB, and 1PB.

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  17. Can I have bean with that? by hughbar · · Score: 1

    I'm expecting a few cans of baked beans or sweet corn, if I spend a certain amount on storage and VMs each month.

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  18. Walmart runs OpenStack by gurubert · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Walmart runs OpenStack (as can be seen here: https://www.openstack.org/summ... ). It will be interesting what they want to open source, maybe they have built a management layer on top of OpenStack or even their own "distribution".

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    1. Re:Walmart runs OpenStack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OneOps is an application lifecycle management product that enables applications to be deployed to one or more cloud offerings. As such, it enables portability between cloud suppliers. OneOps is NOT an OpenStack distribution. OneOps is also NOT an alternative IaaS. It sits a layer above and uses OpenStack, or other cloud vendors, to provide "supply" for customers of the product who represent the cloud "demand".

  19. Walmart isn't asking you to trust their cloud by DuckDodgers · · Score: 1

    Walmart isn't selling cloud services, it's making the code it uses to run its own internal cloud as open source. It's a three way win for Walmart:
    1. Good publicity (we all hate Walmart).
    2. They can use community contributions to their code to make their own internal cloud better.
    3. Some other Amazon Web Services customers might use Walmart's code to run their own internal cloud instead of using AWS. That might hurt Amazon profits - in a small way, of course - without costing Walmart anything.

    Further, Amazon has always been a tech company. Amazon Web Services was originally built for the company's internal use:
    1. Automatically creating, configuring, and adding virtual machines to the amazon.com site when demand spiked around holidays or the release of a hot product. Then automatically shutting off virtual machines and physical servers as demand dropped to save on power and cooling.
    2. Adding redundancy between datacenters, so that a natural disaster or connection failure at one Amazon datacenter didn't interrupt services to customers.
    3. Providing the distributed redundant storage and data streaming to support their streaming video service.

    I don't trust any public cloud with my private data, no matter what company owns it. But in terms of public cloud expertise, Amazon is every bit as good as Google, Microsoft, Rackspace, or any other major player in the cloud space.

  20. OpenStack? by mattwarden · · Score: 1

    TFS is written like this is the first open source attack on AWS. Can someone explain why this is any different from OpenStack from Rackspace?