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Dungeons & Dragons and the Ethics of Imaginary Violence (hopesandfears.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Are people just naturally inclined to be destructive when there aren't any real consequences? Should we be worried about people who imagine such violence? Writer Clem Bastow spoke to D&D experts, psychologists and others to answer these questions. It turns out that playing out violent fantasies in D&D is not only healthy, but could even teach players how to be a better person. “Rather than playing an extension of who you or I are within the game, I see it more as playing a fantasy character who can do whatever they want, and who doesn’t feel inhibited by social anxiety or fear of punishment or rejection. It’s an exaggerated version of how [the player] would like to be, but can’t. The game is a safe way to be this other person,” says Clinical psychologist and games designer Dr. Owen Spear.
But every time I played it, it broke down with inevitable real life fights and arguments.
Will still get parroted by the press - whether it's D&D or GTA or Halo.
Tuesday evenings are usually our AD&D nights. Last session, we met some friendly halflings. Later, we encountered them fighting a bunch of monsters and without question, we jumped into the fight trying to help the halflings. Turns out the halflings had been hunting for these monsters, which were just minding their own business.
Whoops. Since I'm a priest, my god will probably not like it. Now I have to figure out how to make it up :)
I'm almost 40, but since we picked up AD&D with some colleagues, I almost never skip a gaming night. It is sooo much fun!
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If you have an issue with people using graph paper and pencils to pretend to kill magical creatures no one can see in a world all players agree is a shared fantasy, I hope you remain ignorant of the degree of photo-realistic violence video games have been achieved in the last twenty years.
Table-top role-playing games are fine. No harm there. It's all in the head, after all.
But computer games? Whoa! Hold on there. That's far too violent.
Ask me about repetitive DNA
Dungeons & Dragons...
Cool - hopefully it'll be...
Oh shit - here we go again.
This wasn't especially news in the 80s during the "Satanic Panic" years, and it's far less news now. Peer reviewed studies were done then, showing that roleplaying games build social and problem solving skills. There's nothing new or obscure here.
"Are people just naturally inclined to be destructive when there aren't any real consequences? Should we be worried about people who imagine such violence? "
"Rather than playing an extension of who you or I are within the game, I see it more as playing a fantasy character who can do whatever they want, and who doesn’t feel inhibited by social anxiety or fear of punishment or rejection. It’s an exaggerated version of how [the player] would like to be, but can’t. The game is a safe way to be this other person,"
Isn't this, then, the same thing as internet trolling? Taking on a persona (You COWS!!) and running with it?
Yes, it's violent and yes there are REAL people on the other side of the screen the troll is attacking but the same can be said of other people playing D&D on-line! (Or just Counter Strike...)
Please consider this seriously, rather than immediately downmodding it. This is posted in the spirit of improving my understanding of people I don't always understand very well.
I've worked in IT for ages, but I'm what would be considered an "average" or "normal" person by most measures. I have a college degree, I'm married and have kids, I like football and golf, and I shave daily. I don't like to play D&D.
A lot of the people I've worked with over the years don't fit such criteria, though. They'd typically be labelled as "nerds" or "geeks". They're mostly self-taught, they're single, they hate sports, they hate to shave or shower, and they absolutely love to play D&D. They're really into wizards and elves.
What is it about D&D that draws in so many people that would be considered "abnormal"? I don't use that term in a negative way. They aren't bad people, but they are different in their own way, and there are far fewer of them than there are people like them.
Is it the escapism that D&D allows them to experience? Does this allow them to temporarily overcome the powerlessness they have in the real world? Does pretending to be a majestic archer elf give a sense of machismo, for lack of a better term, that such an individual could never experience in the real world?
There are lots of ways to play, play as an extension of yourself, play as someone you might wish to be if you weren't constrained in some way, play seriously as someone you would never wish to be, play as a parody of someone you would never wish to be. It is fine to have a mental shortcut to understanding why people might play but understand also it may not be fully representative.
http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=3
Paper D&D is in the past Video games have more stuff.
heroes of might and magic was and still is fun.
Offtopic, but WTF is the point of shit like http://amzn.to/1NQpuYW ?
D&D board games? Isn't D&D supposed to be roll-your-own type shit?
I've never played, but I think if I did I'd be seriously offended at the idea of a board game version.
If you ever encounter someone who insists on banning some form of media because it supposedly causes those who consume it to become violent/sexist/etc., say that you wholeheartedly agree with them and ask when they will be banning the Bible (or better yet Quran) as that's been responsible for all sorts of violence/sexism/etc. It seems that most of the people who try to make an argument in favor of banning media for such reasons are either religious-hardliner nut-jobs from the Christian conservative camp that will flip shit at the thought of any attack on their Jeebus or wacko authoritarian cultural-Marxist leftists who would never want to appear to say anything bad about Islam.
The mental contortions that follow are spectacular to watch.
Mazes and Monsters seems innocent enough. Right up until Tom Hanks jumps out a window.
Commentary on D&D by a Dr. Spear? That's a pretty suspicious last name, if you ask me.
The Quirkz Handbook of Self-Improvement for People Who Are Already Pretty Okay
Will still get parroted by the press - whether it's D&D or GTA or Halo.
And will get massive kickstarter cash to boot.
Wow, I thought that died back in the 80s.
So the relatively new indie fad PC game Undertale makes some pretty interesting statements in this arena. It gives the player every chance to kill monsters along their path, but puts you in a world that is reasonably shocked and horrified if you actually do that. I've never seen a game so expertly make me feel guilty for resorting to violence instead of searching for another path, and it's pretty emotionally rewarding to finish a pacifist run. If you go the other way, it bends the fourth wall to explore the motivation behind a serial murderer.
It's not impossible. Cults, addictive drugs, new children, 12 step programs all can create massive changes in personality.
Note the only one of those events that doesn't require a massive willing, commitment, intention and effort on the participant is drugs, and well that's why they call it 'addictive'.
Violent games are not biologically addictive. Withdrawal does cause physical symptoms. It does not alter the brain chemistry.
There is no commitment, intention or effort to change your behavior in real life, and thus you get no direct effect.
But as always, people that previously have inclinations toward violence do prefer violent games of all types to non-violent ones.
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The imagination is still far more accurate than any game, or movie for that matter, both in graphics, details and mood.
And that is why it needs to be protected.
D&D does cause violence. I want to punch people who play D&D.
I don't respond to AC's.
Arguably, the most 'deviant' thing about generic D&D, as played by those who have never bothered to go beyond the Tolkien Convention on Hackneyed Absolutist Morality, isn't the relatively unexciting amount of destruction that happens; it's the game's moral framework:
You've got 'Good' and 'Evil' and those just are. Most NPCs will have little or no development that explains why they fall into a given category; but that's just how Orks are(PCs, especially clerics and paladins, will typically be called upon to adhere to a few more rules). Want to kill some people and take their stuff? Are they evil? What more reason do you need? Smite the bastards.
Obviously, this excessively hackneyed version has been improved, modified, actively subverted, etc. numerous times; but it's still a pretty common lazy default. Who needs guilt or innocence, 'motivation' or 'diplomacy' when there are Just Evil things to massacre? There's a fun spoof RPG ruleset that does a pretty good job of skewering this sort of D&D play style "Violence: The Game of Egregious and Repulsive Bloodshed". Not actually very playable; but a good read. Plus, what other RPGs have rules that specifically address how to roll to see whether your attempt to interrogate someone with a belt sander is successful or not?
... no one ever looks at corporations and the rich. Someone should do a study on them because they are the ones who cause violence in the world.
From war is a racket:
"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil intersts in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."[p. 10]
"War is a racket. ...It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives." [p. 23]
"The general public shoulders the bill [for war]. This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations." [p. 24]
General Butler is especially trenchant when he looks at post-war casualties. He writes with great emotion about the thousands of tramautized soldiers, many of who lose their minds and are penned like animals until they die, and he notes that in his time, returning veterans are three times more likely to die prematurely than those who stayed home.
http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/dp/0922915865/
US distribution of wealth
https://imgur.com/a/FShfb
http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
The Centre for Investigative Journalism
http://www.tcij.org/
Some history on US imperialism by us corporations.
https://kurukshetra1.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/a-brief-history-of-imperialism-and-state-violence-in-colombia/
You also get higher verbal/word scores on the SAT ... enough that there have been studies about it.
At least D&D players don't assume you want to subsidize their enthusiasm for choreographed violence on your monthly cable bill.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
During elementary/middle school, I had a DM who was well educated, and part of the campaigns were dealing with various things other than hack/slash/loot. A few examples:
1: As a traveller, how do you behave in a plutarchy versus a benevolant dictatorship, versus a theocracy (especially as a cleric), versus a monarchy? One mistake and you will be doing an "escape from prison" subcampaign.
2: Sailing a ship. How do you set up a clock, how do you navigate by a sextant? Guess wrong, TPW (total party wipeout.) Then there are logistics of sea battles, convincing a place you are about to land that you are not hostile, etc.
3: Map navigation/cartography.
4: Ramifications of combat. The party takes out the orc tower and goes their merry way. Well, said tower is empty, and now becomes a home for very nasty bandits. The party brings tons of treasure into a town (causing an economic boom), then when the party moves on, there is a subsequent bust, and the town now hates the party, sending assassins to bump them off.
5: Dealing with things with various history and likes/hates. Make friends with the local naga, as opposed to killing them, they may have info which can be very useful later on. Challenge the orc chieftain to non-lethal combat and win, the orc citadel now is a trading post, as opposed to just XP.
6: Religions and fanaticism.
7: When to use an aphorism versus an axe.
A good DM is rare, but I learned more about political parties and government oppression from AD&D campaigns than I ever learned in school.
In what universe where Spock has a beard... does an IT guy:
- Play golf
- Enjoy football
I grant you the wife and kids, assuming you're old enough that the young people don't respect you (>5 year difference in age).
The college degree is hit or miss; if you were hired out of college without finishing the degree to be a cubicle warmer, and have been too well paid subsequently to go back, you probably won't have the degree still. Otherwise, generally you don't hire self-taught people if they have to work on a team, wo it's a mix of haves/have nots there.
NT
I don't understand why you were moderated as flamebait, your point is valid and I wish I had mod points to throw at it.
http://www.chick.com/reading/t...
"Intense occult training through D&D prepared Debbie to accept the invitation to enter a witches' coven"
If only I understood the dangers before I started playing! Pretty sure my DM isn't nearly this cool.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Imaginary and abstract violence isn't the problem. The problem in American society is the constant onslaught of violence on television and movies which has created a more violent society. Violence begets violence. Portrayals of violence serve to normalize it and provoke those seeking attention to more and more horrific acts.
We either need some self restraint from Hollywood or we need a return of censorship and a common sense of basic decency.
If you want to blame any one thing in society for influencing escalation of violence in America it should be Hollywood.
Stop trying to cloud the issue with scientific studies and hate facts.
Not D&D, that is stupid, but the only thing that explains the extreme acts of violence that we see is that people are trying to compete with what they are seeing on TV and in the movies for attention. If you want to go out with a bang, then you want to shock people... Can't shock people that have been so desensitized to violence unless you go to greater and greater extremes. So I don't think it is all portrayals of violence, but realistic portrayals of violence on TV and in the movies almost certainly have had an effect on extreme acts of violence.
If your players have no fear of punishment, or rejection if they decide to do unethical things they they are doing it wrong. Murdering the black smith for his weapons is basically asking the DM to write you a ticket to abusive DM land.
Because he's a moral fraud. And gun control has nothing to do with D&D or violence prevention for that matter.
I have seen first hand what damage D&D can wreck on unsuspecting kids.
All-of-a-sudden they get confused. They hear you talk of a game and yet there is no screen to see the game. Then they talk about some RPG games for a computer or console and don't understand how you can do something better with pen, paper and dice.
You begin by describing an alien world that exists only in the mind with a user interface that looks very different to facebook. At this point most compeltely give up...but some are susceptible to imagination and abstract thought and begin to imagine.
Before you know it they start blaspheming and talking about "gods" and pretending to be characters with divine-like powers that do away with rulers or anyone they do not like. Stealing, brutal executions, piracy, killing make-believe flying lizards for this thing they keep chanting like crazed monks "loot".
Piece by piece these kids become attached to their characters, and their character's flying horses or wands of wonder (which only makes sense if you're on crack; possibly a gateway drug) and the inevitable happens. That DM guy explain how something that makes no sense makes sense and your character dies, or you have the easiest battle except all your rolls are utter shit and that fucker DM keeps rolling 18, 19 and 20 and well your character dies because of that DM. (It's always him, he sets the penalties, sets the encounters, the monster actions, even the dice choice to randomly select who gets attacked and then the dice choice to randomly select how many attacks and even the damage, all that asshat's fault) and well...then your character is dead.
When little Timmy's character dies you know this game is evil. He was already socially rejected, isolated, alone, possibly with acne and braces...but when that character dies Timmy seriously loses his shit in the worst way.
Crying, anger, death threats, promises to succumb to the dark side and what not. It's ugly.
All I can say Timmy is that when you chet your DM on the dice roles one day he finds out. One day your level 16 expert theif slips during climbing and rolls downhill being unable to break the fall. He falls, hitting extremely sharp rocks on the way down following the natural curve in the mountain side he falls down a creek (yes on that unexplored side of the mountain and no it's not a creek that;s on the map cause it's too fucking small) and because of momentum he reaches the waterfall...AND FALLS...falling down and hitting some more rockas on the cascading waterfall he struggles to breathe as the current takes him...and washing him down another 8 fucking waterfalls. Yes, with very sharp rocks. Then the very thing that caused your expert climber thief to fall becomes apparent when he finally grabs on to some bush as he gasps for air being mortally wounded and bleeding but just in the real of the living. A loud, low rumble of the impending earthquake that sees half the mountain side come crashing down on you. CRASHING DOWN ON YOU TIMMY! FOLLOWED BY LIGHTNING BOLTS AND METEORS THAT HIT TAHT SMAE SPOT WHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE ALL YOUR MAGICAL ITEMS HAVE CREATED A POSITIVE CHARGE SO STRONG THAT THE AIR CANNOT ISOLATE YOU FROM THE NEGATIVE CHARGE INTHE ATMOISPHERE AND WHE NTHAT SHIT GETS ELECTRIFIED IT CAUSES A HORRENDOUS WAND OF WONDER MAGNETIC ATTRACTION TO NEAR FAERUN ASTEROIDS. YOU'RE DEAD. A SPLATTER CRISP OF A CINDER DEAD. BEYOND RESURRECTION AS THERE IS NOTHING TO RESSURECT. THE SMASHING AND ELECTROCUTION OF ALL YOUR MAGICAL GREAT CREATES A RIFT THAT SUCKS THAT PORTION AND WHATEVER REMAINS THERE ARE INTO THE NEGATIVE ELEMNTAL PLANE. THAT SORTA DEAD DEAD.
Sure that might be hard to imagine but just look what happen to Hitler when his character died; https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
So is D&D dangerous? -you decide. Just a word of advice, don't do the thing your DM hates the most and then keep it a secret and then amke it an inside joke in the group cause th
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
As a life-long tabletop gamer, I've found that Shadowrun tends to reward players who do not resort to violence. In D&D, your rewards generally come from killing monsters in the form of experience points and loot. Shadowrun on the other hand, rewards players for completing the mission. How the mission is completed is largely up to the team. In fact, sometimes violent actions in organized play can adversely affect your reward. The game actually has a reward called karma that can be spent on upgrading.
This difference between D&D and SR was made clear to me after completing a long-slog of a mission with a ton of combat. The GM said the previous group burned through the mission pretty quickly, had slightly better rewards at the end, and they never fired a shot. Incredulous, I asked how they accomplished this. The GM said the previous group simply negotiated with the hostiles...who in fact, weren't really hostile. They were just reacting to our aggression. I didn't expect that to be written into the module. If you want an RPG that teaches you violence isn't always the best solution, Shadowrun is a good one.
That said, the flaw my D&D Goliath Fighter exhibits is, "Violence is my answer to almost any challenge." and charisma is my dump stat. Peace is overrated!
I'm sorry, but your opinion seems to be wrong.
"Quozl", Alan Dean Foster: An alien race claiming to be totally non-violent . . . turns out they use complete simulation technology to be ULTRA-violent in privacy, and get it out of their systems. One of the arguments in favor of playing violent fantasy and/or video games. Problem is, in real life, some people will find it a substitute and some will find it an incentive.
It turns out that playing out violent fantasies in D&D is not only healthy
Well, no, it doesn't "turn out" that way. You've got an expert who asserts this, but that doesn't make it fact.
I'll be the first one to defend D&D and other role playing games (got my dice taken away in school numerous times). I'd never call them "unhealthy." But I really don't like the way people assert opinion as if it were objective truth.
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
A lazy platitude that is virtually the polar opposite of reality.
This wasn't about the ethics of D&D. This was one person's opinion about how alignment should be handled in an RPG, presented as factual, objective instructions.
For the fun of it - and countering his /suggestions/ - how about these definitions:
"Alignment is how you treat everyone who is not in your party." ... and to counter individual suggestions about the impact of alignment:
"Alignment is a rough pigeonholing of your moral and philosophical outlook, used to qualify for magic spells and effects, and can change on a day-to-day basis based on your actions or justifications for actions, but should restrict you in no way - it's a classification, not an attribute."
"Alignment is a silly thing, and it's implementation is overly restrictive, making it difficult to role play realistic, complex characters. So we're not using it in this campaign."
There's no need to make every crime result in moral reflection or in-game (negative) consequences - this is a game, for entertainment, not explicitly a forum for ethical reformation.
It's okay to have a world with full populations of cartoonish, evil beings and villainous stereotypes who can be abused in a number of ways, with joy and abandon.
Since the goal is fun, you can have fun 'beating the game' without even descending into roleplaying, much less worrying about how an arbitrary classification is supposed to straight-jacket your player into behaving in a single, stereotypical way.
I have an idea for you how about we revert to a handful of years ago when in order to satisfy our blood lust we had to actually go out and watch people die, for entertainment. ala Public Execution, Dueling, Lynching, etc..
I hardly think we are becoming more violent. I think that a stupid RPG is a far better fix for the blood lust than the real thing.
They spend far too much time in town bartering for supplies, crafting items, and decorating / renovating their keep.
I'd ask what the fuck you are talking about, but I somehow expect that any answer you might give would be equally incomprehensible,
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Well, there's a difference. CounterStrike puts you in a situation where killing is your only option. Choosing to play the game might be a moral decision, but it stops there. Tabletop RPGs put you in worlds where (depending on the GM) there may be many non-lethal solutions, and choosing to resort to violence above other choices is more morally meaningful while you're playing.
You spend an awful lot of time on the Internet telling me to get off the Internet. Probably more time than I spend on the Internet at all.
Someone is in love with copy/paste. Browse at -1 sometime, and you'll see these messages all over slashdot discussions.
I'm just super tired of having my actions, beliefs, hobbies, and everything else I do micro-analyzed by SJW's who are clearly looking for some 1st world 'problem' to complain about, while women are being literally stoned to death in Afghanistan.
Can we please focus on the really important issues until they are resolved, and then maybe we can look at the small stuff after?
I mean, fuck, priorities much?
Wow... I wasn't expecting to be actually proven right.
Thanks for that.
Oh, and I'm not Jewish.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
There's a lot of different RPGs out there. Of course it depends on the group, but there's a lot of them that are designed to be less combat-y. The World of Darkness games (for all their flaws) often turn out that way, and sure they might be mostly the purview of whiny teenagers, but there's a lot of existential stuff and plotlines that focus on defining who you are and what your place in the universe is. Many of them outright punish you for killing people (without a very good reason) by tying immoral actions to some kind of sanity mechanic. And yeah, while settings like Vampire and Changeling: the Lost have plenty of characters who go around abusing their powers and murdering as they see fit, the PCs are usually the ones trying to reduce the amount of violence in the world, trying to make it more safe for art, philosophy and love. Even if they can't be a part of that world themselves and oh hey now we're back to the whiny teenager part. Also a big emphasis on telling a good story over "winning"; tragic failures are encouraged, which also means more introspection. In any case it's pretty common for an entire session to go by with no combat. ...and then there's Werewolf, but even in that straight-up power fantasy I swear people are twice as moral as your average "lawful good" D&D character. Seems like the setting is better at keeping people accountable for their actions. The bad guys may be irredeemable, but letting violence spill over into the mundane human world just helps the bad guys' cause. I think it's my favorite WoD setting, it's just a good balance overall, as long as you're willing to houserule stuff to simplify the dice-heavy combat.
I think it helps that D&D is one of actually very few tabletop RPGs that ties character progression to killing stuff. GMs that award experience points for advancing the plot instead of killing monsters tend to encourage way less violent games.
Yes because extreme violence has never occurred in the history of humanity before the invention of the television...
I'm not Jewish. And you've proven my point by spending even more time on the Internet checking on what other people say in response to you telling them to get off the Internet.
Exhibit A:
(WARNING: EXTREME VIOLENCE!)
http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/worst-beheading-video-ever-horrific-sound-massive-blood-loss/
Exhibit B:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7OLHhNTEno
See the resemblance?
Didn't think so...
Did you know that apk is a jew?
Did you know that this poster is trying to stop people from using a host file system like yours?
Are you going to sit idly by and stand for that?!?
What are you hoping to accomplish by spamming the same four offtopic replies to every post the GP makes?
Sorry, but that argument is a straw man at best. FPS games can actually also put you into a moral decision. In P&P games it depends on your GM. Yes. In FPS games, it depends on the FPS game. FPS games don't necessarily put you in a situation where killing is your only option, just like GMs don't have to. And likewise in both scenarios you might CHOOSE a violent option.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Though it would probably require some changing of the type of game being played, a little bickering is fine, but if it *inevitably* (rather than hyperbolically "inevitably") results in real life arguments, never mind fights, the DM is not doing their job.
If it means kicking one of the people out, they should do it.
See how well you do in a deathmatch when you won't use violence.
And how often do you NOT get invited back to a team because you try to get everyone to put the guns down and play a running game instead?
SJWs need to go pound sand... somewhere far away. Seriously, STFU. We're tired of your crap.
The more you spew the more it proves the facts I posted, distraction jew bs. fck off.
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Too bad a lot of players don't realize that. Sometimes it is the best way.
What are you hoping to accomplish by spamming the same four offtopic replies to every post the GP makes?
I think he reinvented kibozing, 25 years too late. (Much like his hosts file.)
Or to fund a D&D arena with state/local taxes.
See subject - OR didn't you say:
"Maybe I should change my signature again just to rile him up some more." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 03, 2015 @10:07AM (#50855451) FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
behind my back (I can't see sigs) & KGIII noted it:
"In an earlier thread, I saw that APK quoted your signature" - by KGIII (973947) on Monday November 02, 2015 @10:22PM (#50852845) FROM http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Which I SHUT DOWN due to your lies about me on AD + DNS (GPO too from my security guides I see you've read, that are geared to single stand alone machines NOT networked ones but I advise vs. using external DNS with AD there too, here) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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* You're a disgusting LIAR & burying yourself!
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DEFENSE INDUSTRY? Coren22 from http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
"Theory" here - you working for the NSA/GCHQ now?
They tend to "recruit from within"!
They're KNOWN to attack SECURITY software (like mine) https://theintercept.com/2015/...
(If so THEY PICKED BADLY using YOU as a lapdog - (not theory ->) you're brain-damaged w/ Aspergers as you admit- "the sins of the father" = visited on his kids too)
Dumb - folks like me help SECURE folks via wares like mine - folks in NSA/GCHQ are spying on us is NOT helping folks in the US!
This "theory" of mine wouldn't surprise me 1 bit - considering GCHQ hacked /. https://www.techdirt.com/artic...
Not after proof I put up (IF you're their crony tell your "handlers" they're busting on the WRONG guy for "character assasination" - I help do the RIGHT thing, not the wrong one spying on US folks! I protect 'em)
Wouldn't be a 1st: I've had PROFESSIONAL trolls try it (Cito) & advertisers' cronies (AndyMadigan & RayMorris) do it on /. - I dusted + busted 'em.
APK
P.S.=> You've bring it on yourself (signatures? Punk! I've shown you're technically inept & I doubt you're MCSE, SystemEngineer, & Security - my posts show otherwise)... apk
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it
&
How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
---
"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
---
Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
---
Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides?
I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
You did all that? No!
(& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it
&
How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
---
"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
---
Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
---
Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides?
I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
You did all that? No!
(& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
Nature evolves guilt and the things to be guilty of to increase the successful survival of the species. Religions and governments try to piggyback their rules on nature by demanding that you feel guilty for being politically and religiously incorrect. With millions of these irrelevant laws polluting our guilt space, it's natural that we abandon guilt altogether.
A day is 4 facets of Nature's Harmonic 4-Dimensional Time Cube, you are educated stupid to deny it, world leaders are in conspiring to prevent you from knowing the truth. I'm not sure if we're speaking the same language, but this is the closest I can get.
Lamer. Why didn't he teleport out of it?
And what if I don't "fck off", boy? What are you going to do?
I'll tell you what you're going to do. You're going to whine. You're going to throw a screaming tantrum. You're going to tell comforting lies to yourself about how some shadowy Jewish cabal is the reason you're being mocked and ignored, instead of facing the fact that it's simply because you're a moron.
I know you're going to do that, because it's the only thing you're capable of doing.
Now screech for me, you weak little bitch. Screech as I slap you around. You do not have my permission to stop crying yet.
You scum jews can't distract enough from the facts in my posts so you scum cunts loaded the thread with more bullshit computer gen posts to push my posts down here. That's the idiot cunts you are. Unless dupes make tribes and start slaughtering scum jews everywhere and take back everything you're stolen and kick out your scum immigrant parasites you scum fucks will finish it off with the chemtrail culls. Your distraction is a zero. fuck off jew.
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-- others, see also this thread. yet more links you would never find on your own now.
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/02/1829233/anonymous-begins-publishing-ku-klux-klan-member-details-online
load comments, also slide bar over, you'll see the same jew shit slobber trying to distract. my posts there have mass fact not written out here and far more links. copy link pages to disk they will be gone soon. hand out notes to meet others, make your own tribes -
Yeah! Throw more points! Stick some in his eyes! Yee-haw!
choreographed violence
Hey now... he said baseball not professional wrestling.
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"There's no crying in baseball!" -Tom Hanks in A League of Their Own (1992)
god forbid we actually show them a nipple. even an imaginary one!
Dude, you have some serious issues ...
Political correctness is really just herd psychology pushed by insecure people who desperately seek social conformity.
This is a genuine question APK, and not a dig - do you have autism or asperger's syndrome? You behave in a very unusual way, tracking all these things people have said to you and pasting them back into conversations weeks and months after the fact. I'm just curious about what motivates you.
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
Welcome to the universe buddy. By default, life is cruelty and suffering.
Scum JEW distraction. Proves what I've written, scum jews slobber to distract especially now their scum chemtrail cull plan is going to start.
--
The scum jews do anything to distract because my posts expose their scum tribe and mass of weapons and actual history. You won't see posts like mine anymore soon. You didn't earn this information, use it. If you keep sitting and don't to hand out notes make tribes and do what it takes slaughter the scum in your own area, take back what they've stolen, bash down all 'government' 'states' all of it so you can live and be your own master, then you don't deserve to be alive anymore and you won't be. Natural law. Fight or die. Get off your ass.
The ashkenazi jews are only part semetic, after killing over 500,000 nordic whites in the 'black death' by poisong the wells, killing over half of all whites on earth, they bred with nordic whites to blend in to better do their crimes and world takeover. Don't bother 'searching' all you will find are a few bullshit pages put up by jews sniveling 'blamed da po jew threw them all in the fire'. After the scum jews mass murder of whites, a few of the decimated towns managed to burn a couple hundred jews. A couple hundred, after the scum jews killed half our race, and have since then used scum dupe 'troops' to slaughter hundreds of million more whites in jew fraud 'wars', fraud 'civil war', fraud 'war two' slaughter of Germans, and other races in fraud 'wars' who were trying to be free of the scum jews. This while scum jew bolsheviks killed over 100 million nordic whites, paid for be ameriscums, as with all the more recent slaughter from the jew
'911' and mass murder still going on in the middle east while ameriscums pay for scum jew isreal. The palestinians are full semetic, the jew 'ashkenazi' jew race are only part semtic, making themselves a related but separate race/genetic group from palestinians, and separate from nordic whites so they could later make and use more advanced bio weapons to kill other races while their scum race remains. That's done. see first post and links. The scum jews made up the 'anti' 'racist' meme. The jews are the ultimate racists their 'relgion' made up to to take over the world by enslaving then exterminating other races the same time they screech 'don't be racist' and whites. The scum jews made up anti 'hate speech' bogus 'law' to make it hard for nordic whites and other races to expose them and their mass murder history and current extermination plans. The 'indians' bs is also jew shit. Whites were first on the continent, the indian immigrated and killed them all - 'kennewick man', the scum jews covered it up, the only person with any bones now is a fraud jew named 'owsley' who was part of the Waco cover up. They/he also put up bogus sites pretending to 'fight to keep the bones', same false opposition bs as all the fraud 'activist' bs by jews. Once white dutch came and settled again they had to fend off indian attacks to do it. No one seems to remember 'scalping'. Also it was jews that gave the indians smallpox. Don't bother searching you'll only get a few pages sniveling 'killed a million indians' bs, there never more than 300k 'indians' here. The jew psy ops inflate the number of 'indians' so idiots keep sniveling over bs name 'indians' instead of get straight that whites were here first, managed to immigrate again and fight and survive, then stupidly allowed jews to put up a scum fraud 'government' using a toilet paper 'cons duh too shun' that doesn't apply to anyone and never did. It is fact you are free.
copy to re read --- Use this below to hand out notes, meet others, make your own tribes -
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We are being sprayed, archive.org/details/DontTalkAboutTheWeather_451 - see first 20 mins. The haze in the air is nano chips, other content- www.willthomasonline.net/Nano_Chemtrails.html - older page, semi dumb down, the spraying is mass and worldwide, the contents far more than described. The nano chips are for 'wireless' brain rape and control by 'smart grid' 'wireless
Dark Dungeons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJjtU7vxx-Q
9 okt. 2013
By Popular Demand, Jake and Hugo Read Dark Dungeons
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it
&
How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
---
"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
---
Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
---
Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides?
I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
You did all that? No!
(& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
See subject: Arth1 - here's where I fried you on hosts operating on proxy servers (privoxy does it) http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... AND you can put them on a proxy server and they will obey it as well since they ride on the IP stack like everything else does - you fail #1 vs. me... lol!
Here's where you RAN from being unable to validly disprove my points on hosts files vs. "AlmostALLAdsBlocked" -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
YOU FAIL CHUMP!
APK
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it
&
How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
---
"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
---
Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
---
Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides?
I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
You did all that? No!
(& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
---
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
I think what motivates him is untreated mental illness. He's schizophrenic and he's off his meds. It would be nice if his family or someone would step in and get him some help.
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
YOU say "hosts=bad" (but they add security, speed, & reliability) & bitch on admin privelege to UPDATE vs. threats:
"So, have you figured out why privilege escalation is a bad thing yet?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015 @05:15PM (#50577809)
Hypocrite - You use admin priv admitting it
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How else can I programmatically update hosts minus it in Windows?
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"Of course it requires elevation to write to the hosts file" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015 @05:35PM (#50585879)
You FINALLY later admit there's no other way!
FACT:
Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware (best one) DEMANDS you use admin privelege (you saying it's "bad" too?) it can't do its job fully otherwise, like many security tools do!
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Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET says hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
Oliver Day (Symantec) does-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts hosts & recommends my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
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* HOW MANY SECURITY PROS DO I NEED TO KNOCK THE CHOCOLATE OUTTA YOU?
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Those security pros INCLUDE me: I work w/ guys from malwarebytes' hpHosts on a regular basis!
I've professionally worked for decades as a combined domain-wide network admin & software engineer since 1994 (Even showing you HOW to migrate a hosts across an enterprise-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
I've also been securing computers + WRITING GUIDES using CIS Tool (who took fixes from me http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - bonus) http://www.bing.com/search?q=%...
You told me you learn from guides?
I write good ones that MILLIONS USE & was PAID FOR IT http://pcpitstop.com/news/winn...
+ WARES TO PROTECT USERS that are endorsed & hosted by security pros -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
You did all that? No!
(& that's ONLY a SMALL part of what I could put out)
APK
P.S.=> You're all TALK -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & a "ne'er-do-well" in security... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
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MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
That is what made Thief so awesome.
Tabletop RPG's are just lame nerd circle jerks.
"Because he's a moral fraud. And gun control has nothing to do with D&D or violence prevention for that matter."
Seriously?... gun control has nothing to do with violence prevention? (that is subject to SERIOUS debate)... and you claim HIM to be the moral fraud.. from what I'm reading he was 100% correct. especially when Im modded as flame bait simply for agreeing and you calling someone a "moral fraud" is modded as insightful. Clearly no bias there.
"APK doesn't think that DNS servers are worth running and seems to believe that somehow Microsoft Active Directory can run without DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015 @12:58PM (#50811615)
Where'd I say AD will run minus DNS Coren22? I've said AD = internal network DNS dependent as far back as 2007 http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
(Searching this in BOLD "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers!" referring to OpenDNS suggestions for those using AD stupid in the POSTS BEFORE IT in my security guides for users (geared to stand alone single machines no less), & right there on that page proves it stupid - so even if you posted as myself someplace here on /. "impersonating me", I have your ass NOW, shithead!)
I've also stated MANY TIMES I use remote DNS in OpenDNS @ home (but not @ work on AD networks + exchange/outlook: Free OpenDNS model doesn't work with AD dependent Exchange + Outlook specifically you lying little imbecile).
I also don't hardcode in "every site there is under the sun" is why, so I have to use DNS, but OpenDNS & rarely.
I also RARELY MISS A LOOKUP since I put where I spend a good 95++% of my time online in my favorite sites into hosts @ the TOP of hosts for utmost LOCAL FASTER RESOLUTION SPEEDS and more reliability vs. Open DNS (not OpenDNS) resolvers being abused, Kaminsky redirect poisoned DNS servers (of which 99.999% of ISP DNS are not proofed against to this very day even though a patch exists which OpenDNS uses), rogue DNS servers, and yes ROUTERS with bushwhacked by malware DNS settings (happening a LOT lately).
Hardcodes in hosts are faster than remote DNS, waste less resources than local dns in power, cpu cycles, RAM, & other I/O by FAR considering ALL THE PARTS of such a setup in programs, data, I/O, & power (especially if setup as a separate machine).
APK
P.S.=> You're a disgusting liar... apk
"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware. Good luck getting that removed." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
False positive: I've wrote 'em long ago, no response vs. 60++ REPUTABLE sources (not nobodies) below that fries you Coren22!
Is that your fake site for more lies Coren22?
Lying about me LIKE YOU DID HERE punk -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ??
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MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's safe proven by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
Its 32-bit model too https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
More "SALT IN YOUR WOUNDS" -> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
APK
P.S.=> /.'ers say my work is good too:
"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)
"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)
"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)
"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)
(that is subject to SERIOUS debate)...
So? I was just making an observation about the lack of correlation between presence of guns and violence. For example, US society is more violent than Swiss society, but they have similar levels of gun ownership.
from what I'm reading he was 100% correct.
About what? What wolf are we feeding with responsible gun ownership and fun D&D? I bet it's not the rabid wolf Mr. AC was thinking of.
moral decision [...] more morally meaningful
When there is no harm, there is no morality. If it doesn't matter what you choose, then it's not more moral or less moral.
(that is subject to SERIOUS debate)...
So? I was just making an observation about the lack of correlation between presence of guns and violence. For example, US society is more violent than Swiss society, but they have similar levels of gun ownership.
Let me add to your information... "The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations. However, it is generally not permitted to keep army-issued ammunition, but compatible ammunition purchased for privately owned guns is permitted. At the end of military service period the previously used gun can be converted to a privately owned gun after a weapon acquisition permit has been granted (fully automatic weapons will be rebuilt into semi-automatic ones)."
So if you want there here in the U.S. by all means... instead of a gun in every bubble gum machine, there's serious regulation involved with gun ownership in switzerland.. the same thing that would be considered "grabbing guns" here in the U.S.
About what? What wolf are we feeding with responsible gun ownership and fun D&D? I bet it's not the rabid wolf Mr. AC was thinking of.
Oh so you admit it's about RESPONSIBLE gun ownership now... not JUST gun ownership? FYI, we don't have responsible gun ownership in the U.S... we have "gun nuts" and a God/Constitutional right to arm ourselves to the teeth pretty much regardless of training or credentials.... a recipe for .. drum roll... violence!
You scum cunt jews keep opening your shit mouth to distract. PROVES what I've written. What's more, scum cunt, take your 'fear' bs and shove it. Save your idiot 'fear' shit for dupes. You know there are over ten million of you jew dog bitch scums in this territory, just slobbering for the virus cull aren't you. Yammering shit pretending there aren't millions so idiots don't realize their 'jew' 'neighbor' is part of the smiley distract and mass kill scheme. fck off jew cunt.
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Most every 'white' in scum 'govt' 'state govt' 'media' fake 'alternative media' all the scum cunts with 'sports' 'cooking' 'pets' fake 'science' sites, look at their FACES, they are scum jews, distracting while their tribe sets up the cull.
Since the scum jew decided to keep distracting, more info with mass more links below you would Never find on your own, copy to save all this post -
They are millions in the tribe, they have butchered the world over, now the target is you, and they already killed here, vengeance is mass past overdue. 'civil war' fraud, 'war one' fraud' 'war two' fraud', 'banking' ripoff fraud', the mass 'welfare' scum fraud making whites pay for jews and everyone else, the 'minorities' shit, Waco, Oaklahoma city, all the false flags bs to take guns, their 911 assault. more fraud 'wars' to get more trillions in weapons, mass immigration to replace you, now they are spraying you.
Note to add to posts above, copy, jews using scum dupes, the fraud 'civil' war, the south was seceding to be free of jew 'government', so the jews, who brought and owned the slaves, started screeching 'free the slaves' to set up a bogus 'war' to kill the southerners, the scum northern dupes 'went along' and killed their southern racial white kin. The jews left the south before the killing of the southerners started, then returned afterward, 'hired' back their slaves, and more jews swarmed in to take over the dead southerner's property. Scum dupes killing for the jew. A dozen fraud 'wars' later now You are the southerners. Chemtrail virus. The jews are a race. Extermination of all other races except ashkenazi jews in the tribe and their chinese slaves.
On another thread a scum jew troll replied with this shit - "The good news is that if the Russians do their job, your part of the world will soon be without Internet service."
The scum jews bragging in your face their scum 'russian' jew race bolshevik troops will be raping and butchering including your kids, those left over from the virus. Further, the 'russian' bs, 'cutting off the internet', the scum jews have their own real internet while you have jew shit. They will cut off everything whether you 'go along or not', you are being Sprayed. They take it all and kill you if you keep sitting on your ass. The electric/power utilities are OURS, it is you and I, not the scum jews who build and paid for it, the scum jews schemed them away into their bogus 'cities' or 'private' companies and hide behind 'public stock' scam while they rape your elec rates and give 'free' electric to scum jews in the tribe and mass immigrant parasites. It's all your to take back. If you wait until you're dying from the virus it's too late. You can't do anything without a tribe. That's why scum jews scheme to keep everyone else separated. Make your own tribes, the scum frauds in every 'govt' 'state' 'city' the scum fraud 'skools', the more you sit the closer the slaughter comes. see 'scum jew' post above, mass of information and links you would never find on your own, hand out notes to meet others, make your own tribes -
Here is from all above so you can copy all at once -
The scum jew 'anti semetic' bullshit. The ashkenazi jews are only part semetic, after killing over 500,000 nordic whites in the 'black death' by poisong the wells, killing over half of all whites on earth, they bred with nordic whites to blend in to better do their crimes and world takeover. Don't bother 'searching' all you will find are a few bullshit pages put up by jews sniveling 'blamed da po jew threw them al
Let me add to your information...
So you do admit that there is a lack of connection between gun ownership and violence? Ok.
Oh so you admit it's about RESPONSIBLE gun ownership now... not JUST gun ownership? FYI, we don't have responsible gun ownership in the U.S... we have "gun nuts" and a God/Constitutional right to arm ourselves to the teeth pretty much regardless of training or credentials.... a recipe for .. drum roll... violence!
Gun ownership has always been about responsible gun ownership as you admit here. That doesn't have a thing to do with violence.
So you do admit that there is a lack of connection between gun ownership and violence? Ok."
No, just because you refuse to acknowledge it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
Gun ownership has always been about responsible gun ownership as you admit here. That doesn't have a thing to do with violence.
Nope... no it hasn't... it's been about the right to have a gun.. period (regardless of responsibility)... and there is a direct correlation between irresponsible gun ownership and violence.
No, just because you refuse to acknowledge it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
Which is a meaningless observation since it doesn't support your arguments at all.
Nope... no it hasn't... it's been about the right to have a gun.. period (regardless of responsibility)... and there is a direct correlation between irresponsible gun ownership and violence.
Which simply isn't true. Else we wouldn't have laws against negligent use or storage of firearms, much less laws against assault and murder with firearms.
Which is a meaningless observation since it doesn't support your arguments at all.
Which is about as meaningless to the argument was what you posted.....
Which simply isn't true. Else we wouldn't have laws against negligent use or storage of firearms, much less laws against assault and murder with firearms.
Your argument is that there is no correlation between gun ownership and violence..... ok, fine... please explain the cause of the massive gun violence rate in America and your solution for solving it...
please explain the cause of the massive gun violence rate in America and your solution for solving it...
There isn't massive gun violence in the US (it is merely a moderately higher rate than other countries). As for "solving" it, I would continue to enforce laws against violence - with or without guns.
I would also legalize most recreational drugs and other victimless crimes like gambling and prostitution. And finish with a rational immigration policy that provides a clear, prompt, and rather easy path to permanent residency in the US.
There isn't massive gun violence in the US (it is merely a moderately higher rate than other countries). As for "solving" it, I would continue to enforce laws against violence - with or without guns.
So basically you're saying.. "it's not happening and I wouldn't change anything" Again... just because you choose to bury your head in the sand about it doesn't mean that it isn't a real thing. The U.S. has a horrible gun violence rate, unless you're comparing it to 3rd world failed nations.. is that what you're doing?
I would also legalize most recreational drugs and other victimless crimes like gambling and prostitution. And finish with a rational immigration policy that provides a clear, prompt, and rather easy path to permanent residency in the US.
Just a point, prostitution is not a victimless crime, but like anything else it needs tight regulation in order for it to be closer to being a victimless crime.
am i a jew too? i think you're fucking insane as well.
This APK guy seems like he knows what he is talking about but he doesn't, i have gone through his posts and he just ignores any rational debate and spams his crap over and over.
maybe slashdot could blacklist his ip?