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Turkey Downs Allegedly Intruding Russian Fighter Near Syria Border (reuters.com)
jones_supa writes: Turkish fighter jets shot down a Russian Sukhoi SU-24 fighter near the Syrian border on Tuesday after repeated warnings over airspace violations. Moscow said it could prove the jet had not left Syrian air space. Footage from private Turkish broadcaster Haberturk TV showed the warplane going down in flames in a woodland area. Separate footage from Turkey's Anadolu Agency showed two pilots parachuting out of the jet before it crashed. A Syrian rebel group sent a video to Reuters that appeared to show one of the pilots immobile and badly wounded on the ground and an official from the group said he was dead. This is the first time a NATO member's armed forces have downed a Russian military aircraft since the 1950s. The Guardian is following the developments with live updates.
Also covered by the BBC, which notes Russian aircraft have flown hundreds of sorties over northern Syria since September. Moscow says they have targeted only "terrorists", but activists say its strikes have mainly hit Western-backed rebel groups. Turkey, a vehement opponent of Syria's president, has warned against violations of its airspace by Russian and Syrian aircraft. Last month, Ankara said Turkish F-16s had intercepted a Russian jet that crossed its border and two Turkish jets had been harassed by an unidentified Mig-29.
Let's start World War III over a piece of land in the middle east we all gave fuck-all about five years ago.
Didn't we elect someone to get us the hell out of some sandy region where everyone hates everyone else, and the only people they hate more is anyone who shows up to help? Are we really going to do this all over again with the advisers and the airstrikes and then another Iraq/Libya/Egypt clusterfuck?
U.S., Iran, Turkey, Assad, Russia. All hate ISIS. All have an interest in destroying the ISIS "caliphate."
Can't stop fighting among themselves for even a minute to even consider an alliance.
Meanwhile, ISIS just slips across some other border that the side who happens to be fighting them at that moment can't cross.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Sure Russia won't deliberately shoot down a Turkish jet and risk war with NATO. But an "accident" just might happen.
Moscow says they have targeted only "terrorists", but activists say its strikes have mainly hit Western-backed rebel groups.
I thought the whole Syrian spring thing was about (some) western countries (their governments, at least) backing Daesh against Assad????
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Well, it was bound to happen.
Turkey was very pissed off because Russia bombarded everyone - included syrian Turks.
If this claim is true, then Russians planes are shitty.
(I'm turkish),
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It makes me sick to see the phrase, "Western-backed rebel forces". These are Islamists. When Russia says they're only going after the terrorists, they aren't lying. See, there aren't two sides in Syria's civil war, there are three (major ones). There is Assad's government, who represent a minority that would get massacred if they ever lose power (Russia is backing them), the Islamist rebels (we're backing them *puke*), and ISIS (against everyone). There aren't any good guys. The Syrians who want Western democracy? Laughable.
It continues to amaze me, year after year, all the journalists who simply do not comprehend that there are three (major) sides in the battle. When Russia bombs the Islamists, this is nothing more than a proxy war. Putin thinks Obama is finished, weak, and America is ready to be swept aside. This is all Obama's own fault, of course, for his miserable failure during the Syrian nerve gas crisis of 2013. His "red line" was shown to be nothing that anyone need be afraid of. Russia saw weakness and swooped in. According to Putin, this was America's "Suez Moment" and without it Russia would today not be in the civil war and NATO wouldn't have just shot down one of their aircraft.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Turns out the "pilot" was a corpse stolen from a morgue. And it was remotely controlled by the gay nazi pro-euro mafia! And also, it was never even shot down, and never existed! All lies by the European union.
In Syria.
No Mig-29 has ever locked a Turkish plane in the region. The Russians have none there. A F-16's RWR (Radio Warning Reciever) cannot distinguish easily between a MiG-29 or Su-30 or Su-27 radar.
According to the data the Turks themselves have provided, the Russian plane was in Syria save for a very brief instant (5-20 seconds depending the airspeed of the Su-24). This is normal in operations. Small strays at the bad side of a border are common and are not worthy of an incident. If the Su-24 had been in a straight line towards the deep inside of Turkey then it should have been intercepted -not shot down- and either escorted outside of the airspace or sternly asked to land on some Turkish military airfield pending diplomatic exchange between the two nations.
And you don't "warn multiple times" a plane in 20 seconds.
The Turks are clearly looking for war with Russia for whatever reason. Or their political leaders do not realise Russia is not Armenia and they are going to react. They will think it trough but it won't be pretty.
Until now, if you watch the images of Russian planes in Syria, you see they fly with old air-air missiles (R-27s) which show they didn't really expect anyone would be dumb enough to start a fight with them. That is going to change.
I hope NATO will stay out of this. If they start a WW3, I desert. I won't fight or even pay taxes for islamists.
Let's see some evidence as to actaul position.
If fell into Syria.
Which direction was it flying?
That might give some idea of the position of the missile hit.
What was the flight path before the hit?
This might give an idea of exactly which side of the line it was flying on.
I wonder if everybody's database agrees on the border?
How was the warning given?
Was the Russian jet likely listening.
Seems like operating that near the border, prudence would dictate communicating with both sides.
Moscow says they have targeted only "terrorists", but activists say its strikes have mainly hit Western-backed rebel groups.
I know the American media is still rock-hard in their slathering love-fest with the "Arab Spring" (or, as the the sane world knows it "The Radical Islamic Takeover"). But are you STILL so naive as to not realize that most of those "Western-backed rebel groups" are just Isis or their affiliates? Do you really think there are two anti-Assad rebel factions (one side Isis, one side "good" rebels) that are somehow able to find the time to fight one another?
Do the stupid-ass CIA agents handing out the guns to the rebels make them pinkie-promise that they're not Isis?
WTF? Turkeys can't fly!
Did they use linux to do it?
Why is this story on /.?
blindly antisocialist = antisocial
There's an old curse that seems relevant: "May you live in interesting times." Times are certainly interesting. At this point, it seems like some sort of full-scale war between NATO and Russia is more likely now than it has been any time since the 1980s (granted then it would have been NATO against the USSR but the basic point is the same). Worse, at least historically the military and diplomats spent much of their time making sure that things didn't spiral out of control. Without the Cold War feeling, people may feel less of a need to guard against such issues. Worse, Russian military doctrine currently describes a limited nuclear strike on conventional military targets as a de-escalation http://thebulletin.org/why-russia-calls-limited-nuclear-strike-de-escalation . While in official documents they reserve that terminology for using nuclear weapons to handle direct conventional military attacks on Russia itself, one finds very worrying the level of doublethink where one describes being the first to use nukes as de-escalating a situation.
During the Cold War, one popular explanation for the Fermi paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox, the apparent lack of highly advanced civilizations in the universe, was that species end up blowing themselves up. For most of my life, this belief looked almost quaint but it is not looking disturbingly likely. At this point, the evidence for some sort of serious barrier to civilizations emerging substantially is much stronger than it was a few decades ago. The apparent lack of K3 or K2.5 civilizations is at this point substantially robust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale with around 100,000 galaxies searched and almost no sign of any civilization using a substantial fraction of its galactic energy output http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/alien-supercivilizations-absent-from-100-000-nearby-galaxies/. With this return to Cold War norms, it looks like we need to not only take seriously that there's a Great Filter, but that the Filter might be nuclear war. That's especially the case because a nuclear war does not need to kill every member of the civilization to completely destroy any hope of a technologically advanced civilization. If not enough natural resources have been consumed by the civilization (e.g. the easily accessible coal and oil) then even if the species survives it may not have the ability to reboot itself to a high tech level since getting to a high tech level may actually require access to these resources (in which case one gets essentially one chance to get to be a high tech civilization).
Turkey has shown to be rather itchy about engaging anyone who encroaches their boarder. Except when its ISIS and they sit and watch while ISIS kills and attacks.
Yet, it seems they are willing to quickly engage when a aircraft briefly enters their airspace possibly just because of the air craft maneuvering requirements. I am not discounted Russia air craft may have breached the boarder. But the question is, was this a aggressive act or did Turkey over react to this? Clearly I think we have some fair weather NATO friends in the bunch and I am not sure sometimes which side Turkey is on? This brings up questions in my mind on how much some of these Muslim countries want to defeat ISIS? Obama claims 65 country support. But all I see is France, Russia and US attacking ISIS on a aggressive basis. I thought this air traffic agreement was all worked out between NATO and Russia?
Almost 50% (content varies) of ISIS/ISIL are former Ba'athist that we paid not to fight against us in post Saddam Iraq.
Like that was a great idea!
I'm going into my prepper bunker now. I'd post back, but I was more interested in hoarding ammo than getting my H.A.M. radio license.
When my 30-year shelf-life beef jerky runs out, maybe I'll post back to /. if I'm still alive.
There are no "moderate" rebels.
They are islamists. The only "moderates" are in hotels in Turkey; They have no power and are nicknamed the "five star opposition" because of the five star hotels they live in. For the Russians, a beardie is a beardie.
There is neither "the Russians are bombing moderates while they promised to bomb DAESH" They said form the start there were no moderate islamists and even joked they bombed moderate islamists with moderated bombs "which have more pleasant colors".
Turkey and Saudi Arabia are backing Al Nosra which is a local branch of Al Quaeda. And UK and particularly France with that idiot Laurent Fabius timidly backs them to please the Gulf states so they buy them weapons. Airplanes in particular. Against the advices of their own military. It is changing but slowly.
Lolz
It's a junker, from the cold-war era, shot down by another junker, from the cold-war era. If it shows anything, it's that those old ruskie junkers still have the best WORKING ejection apparatus in the world, bar none! Needed since THEM's junkers always lose to US'es junkers.
Turkey to Putin. Stay the FUCK OUT OF Turkey, turkey!
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We have an opportunity to forge an alliance between former enemies. The only reason the USSR and America were adversaries was the conflict over economic systems. that conflict no longer exists. Russia us just as capitalistic as the West, albeit a but more crude about it. But the point is that we have no reason to automatically line up against then anymore.
We have an opportunity to create a partnership that exceeds Nato and present a united front against Islamic Radicalism. This means not only immolating ISIS terrorists, but also, diplomatically confronting the bigger players in the Mideast that are the ones actually fueling his kind of crap with their fundamentalist nonsense. We could force them all to clean up their act, and reform Islam.
Of course, the US will need to stop supporting "moderates", mostly because there is no such thing.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Flight radar track on downed warplane issued by Turkish military via CNN Türk
So Vladimir Putin ordered fighters into NATO airspace and was shots down.
Where is the storys here?
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And here I am just sittin' at the crossroads waitin' for the Archduke to drive on by.
It is exploding....
It is crazy how a song from quite awhile ago is still so relevant. Somehow it feels that we will foolishly repeat the same stupid pattern over and over again. Simply using some screwed up country for the bigger countries to fight battles, all in the name of the greater good. Seems like if we really cared about solving the problems in Syria we would all join together in a common agreed upon plan. I can't imagine any government standing up to the full force of the world united.
But instead, we are on the eve of destruction.....
The Russians won't do anything to retaliate. I have a healthy respect for Russia and most people should. I grew up during the Cold War not too far from the former Soviet Union. I used to watch the Soviet submarines off the coast when I was a teenager. They would surface occasionally. My father purchased a powerful maritime telescope for my brother and I to see them better when they did surface. Once, a submarine surfaced and broadcasted an emergency. One of the crew suffered a burst appendix. Our guys sent out a helicopter and collected him and took him to hospital where he stayed for two day's time. The submarine waited off the coast, but was joined by 24 hour patrol helicopters and a frigate escort. This was 1983.
The Russians are good people, their military is very capable, and while some of their equipment might be a generation or so behind the West, make no mistakes in thinking this limits them. Russia and Putin have something the West doesn't have at present: will and intent. It doesn't matter why Russia is in Syria, although to my estimation, they are protecting their oil and gas pipeline interests (present and future) through Iran to Syria.
I rather admire Vladimir Putin for his nationalism and his refusal to play nice with islamists. His duty is to kill them and that he will do. Unlike the West, Russia is actually killing ISIS and other islamists and this is to be praised.
It's not as if we are ever going to learn the truth in these kinds of "incidents". Russia will say they were in Syria, Turkey will say they were in Turkey.
However this time since the pilot parachuted in Syria, and got captured by rebels, I tend to believe the Russian story. If the plane was shot down in Turkey, the Turkish army would have recovered the pilot, isn't it?
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As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
why usa and nato get the f out of middle east, and stops making wars and stealing oil?
Please run for president, or at least go explain to the president what a reasonable strategy might be. Based on your understanding, which is more thorough than 99.9% of people's, what do you think would be a reasonable strategy for the US going forward, considering the end game?
It seems pretty clear we don't want Daesh in control of the territory; which group(s) can we support which have a reasonable chance of establishing some stable control and aren't barbaric, and how should we be doing that? As a voter who hasn't heard of most of the groups you mentioned, what main point(s) do I need to hear from a candidate to think he or she might have stumbled on a reasonable approach?
Just days before Thanksgiving and Turkey shoots down a Russian Jet. The turkeys have armed themselves and are fighting back! Thanksgiving meals will be changed forever.
Here's a map of the flight path of the "alleged incursion" by Russia. Not so alleged now, eh? Definite.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-24/unidentified-warplane-crashes-in-syria-near-turkish-border#media-2
When help comes in the form of bombs dropped from above or troops that come in and get out with the periodic civilian casualties... I am pretty sure I would react the same way to that sort of "help". You are either all-in on the ground or supporting some side with some legitimate staying power on the ground. Otherwise you are just killing people for no good reason.
Early last month Hugh Hewitt went on the Sunday show circuit blabbering about a Russian jet shot down by Turkey as a central part of a WWIII "world is ending" rant. There were no follow ups to these serious yet baseless Internet rumors, no apologizes and Hugh was welcomed back.
Meanwhile CNN's Elise Labott was suspended for two weeks for tweeting "House passes bill that could limit Syrian refugees. Statue of Liberty bows head in anguish"
The media does not give a shit about communicating the truth or objectivity. They only care they superficially give a faux appearance of doing so. If they cared they wouldn't open the flood gates to baseless scare mongering from anonymous government goons interested only in affecting public opinion or give platform to partisan talking heads to spew their tired predictable rhetoric unchallenged. But this is the news media. They only care about ratings. Their primary responsibility is baiting the few remaining viewers with hyperbole, controversy and scaremongering.
Belated credit to the Internet rumor mill for predicting a story a month before it happened.. and sorry (not really) for this off topic rant.
There is talk on russian webforums that Erdogan's son is a chief liaison to ISIS/ISIL/Daesh (they even posted a group photo as proof) and the russians will get him.
I think the best option would be for the turkish military to replace Erdogan, try him and forcibly restore secularist rule in Turkey. Either that or Constantiople will very soon become the capital of Bulgaria...
Anyhow, sunni radical islam, which Erdogan heralds, is the most dangerous thing on Earth. If you think the ayatollah was dangerous, think again! The shiite muslims at last have the ancient wisdom inherited from the sage Zarathustra.
First off, Turkey shot down this plane for reasons important to Turkey. The plane may well have crossed into Turkey, though it sounds like it flew over a spit of land on an irregular boarder area, but the Turkish air force pursued it and shot it down over Syria, that is blatantly clear by where it crashed. Sure they "warned" the plane, for 5 whole minutes, but they obviously had the aircraft right there with the finger on the trigger and at the time of the shooting the plane would have been in Syria. Turkey was looking for an excuse an got one. The reason the plane was so easy to down was because the pilot didn't expect them to shoot. The reason for the attack is Turkey is trying to make it as difficult as possible for Russia to use it's air power, not because anyone legitimately thought Turkish forces or civilians were in serious danger. Had Russia actually been dropping bombs in Turkey, that would be a different matter and there would be undeniable proof. If our top priority was to stop ISIS, we would support Assad and simply do our best to make the support conditional on reforms. He clearly only wants to stay in power and has already agreed to any number of reforms. This isn't to say that Assad is a good guy, but rather a statement that our so called allies in the area are pretty weak to non existent. Plus, at the end of the day I don't know that their priorities really match ours, all we really know about them is they aren't Assad and they aren't ISIS. So why are we doing this? This is feeling more like a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia, and less like anyone actually cares about ISIS one way or the other. We aren't going to bomb our way to peace over there, making the war last longer is going to create more terrorists, not less. I don't know what they will call themselves, but I know we are just going to create more people with a grudge against the West, and I suppose Russia as well.
I will likely be downvoted, even though what I write is absolutely true.
Revolution was predicted at least 6 years ago, a result of public land policy changes made 50 years ago and yet nobody talks about it. In fact, if anybody brings it up, they are immediately dismissed as radical, or simply silly.
Starving people are dramatically more likely to revolt than well fed people. Somehow, mentioning this ridiculously obvious fact is universally dismissed.
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
Don't worry, the Serbs and Croatians aren't involved in this fiasco yet. As long as nobody tries to shoot an arch-duke, we should be able to keep this contained to Asia minor.
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One important reason of the destabilization of the area near and including Syria, is to get Putin's influence out of Syria and put Biden's in.
Qatar wants to sell its gas to Europe through a pipeline through Syria, but Assad wants Putin to supply his gas to Europe. So Saudi-Arabia buys a lot of Toyota's while USA (McCain) supplies weapons for some fanatics that were trained and supported by the USA to fight the Russians in Afghanistan.
Of course you can't simply dismiss these people without expecting some major problems, so they are now directed at Assad after a brief period in Lybia.
Saudi-Arabia already saw that the USA was fracking too much and made that a losing proposition by lowering the oil prices through oversupply.
Further, as Brzezinsky writes in his book, the US, in order to maintain its hegemony as a superpower, has to do anything it can to prevent other powers become too strong and successful. Creating chaos is one way of obtaining that goal so no, I don't think the USA would reduce its presence there if there were no oil.
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If, as the article states, the Russian pilots came down in Syrian territory, then why should we believe they were flying above Turkeye?
Further this incident gives Putin the possibility to start downing the French, German, Britain planes within Syria.
The only thing I anticipate 'The Allied Forces' to do is bomb the hell out of Assad's infrastructure and military facilities.
Just like what happened in Syria. 'The Allied' got permission to establish a no-fly zone and took the opportunity to destroy pretty much the whole irrigation system that Ghaddafi had installed.
The downing of the plane is a nice precedent making it easier to down NATO planes once they fly over Syria and bomb or supply the 'wrong' side.
"Trump!!", the new Godwin.
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The shot down the plane not even 1 km inside their border. A fighter jet would be flying casually at 600 Mph, around 900 feet per second or roughly 1 km every four seconds; yet,, the Turks were supposedly warning them for five minutes. And then they shoot them down for stepping an inch into their front lawn? Did they want to start a war or were they trying to protect. whomever Russia was after?
Full disclaimer: I have Russian heritage, but I don't live in Russia.
Russians and Turks are not exactly friends. The nations have had a fair share of issues for centuries. Giving the recent trends--e.g., Russian support for Armenia, Assad--it does not seem to be about NATO v. Russia at all. My only hope that this problem gets resolved quickly, so this does not become another military conflict.
For those who want to point fingers to air-space violations: Please stop. Countries that can rely on air force superiority (think members of NATO, Russia), have at some points of time engaged into this practice either involuntarily or with a specific purpose. There are ways of dealing with such situation that should not involve shooting down aircraft almost immediately, especially if the situation can be put into the context, i.e., on-going military operations in the region.
Did someone in Ankara misunderstand when someone told them that pretty nearly everyone in the US cheers for Turkey this Thursday?
-Styopa
I think this is why Washington advised "Avoid foreign entanglements".
Maybe it would have been paid attention to if he'd prefaced it with "Hey, Dickheads!".
Nah; war is far too profitable for (Raytheon, et al) to stop now.
This is an effort to create hostility amongst NATO nations against Russia, who has become increasingly cozy with the EU leadership after the Paris attacks.
If, as the article states, the Russian pilots came down in Syrian territory, then why should we believe they were flying above Turkeye?
Crashing four kilometres from the border leaves plenty of room for doubt.
Further this incident gives Putin the possibility to start downing the French, German, Britain planes within Syria.
Not remotely. If he does, that's going to result in a very rapid reduction in Russian air power.
The only thing I anticipate 'The Allied Forces' to do is bomb the hell out of Assad's infrastructure and military facilities.
What the fuck does Assad have to do with this? Why would you bring him into it? Are you talking complete shit?
Just like what happened in Syria. 'The Allied' got permission to establish a no-fly zone and took the opportunity to destroy pretty much the whole irrigation system that Ghaddafi had installed.
Ah. Yes, you are.
....Turkey shoots you for Thanksgiving!
Honestly, 325 posts and nobody pulled this out?
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
Hate to say this to you, but Russia's 5th Generation military aircraft are better than anything the Americans, British, or French currently have. I was in and around the military for 25 years. I worked on A-10s and have seen many a Russian plane in my day. Nothing we have can touch the SU-34 and SU-35 for their intended roles. As you pointed out, the SU-24 is a Cold War bird that's been in the air since 1967. The SU-34 and SU-35 are forces to be reckoned with. All things being equal, Russian flight training is far more involved and deeper than Western counterparts. Sadly, the SU-24 was shot down and pilots killed. Let's see that same attempt on one of the SU-34 or SU-35s. Even the F-22 cannot win against these or the F-35, which by all accounts is a POS that they cannot even get to work correctly half the time.
There is some. A lot less than Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya, et al, but that's not the same as there being practically no oil
U.S., Iran, Turkey, Assad, Russia. All hate ISIS. All have an interest in destroying the ISIS "caliphate."
Can't stop fighting among themselves for even a minute to even consider an alliance.
Meanwhile, ISIS just slips across some other border that the side who happens to be fighting them at that moment can't cross.
Turkey doesn't belong in the above list. As discussed elsewhere in this page, they see their main enemies as the Kurds, not ISIS. The Ottoman Empire too was at the center of a caliphate by virtue of controlling Mecca and Medina. So ISIS ain't that much alien to it
1) Partition Syria into Alawite, Sunni Arab, and Kurdish zones (ideally independent states).
2) Purge the Damascus government/army of Alawites (including Bashar Assad) so it can become acceptable to the Sunni Arabs in ISIS territory.
3) Arm and support this government (which would be much more religiously moderate than ISIS, al-Nusra, or any other rebels) as it reconquers ISIS territory.
4) Try to reach some agreement with Iraq where most Iraqi Sunni areas are absorbed into the Sunni Arab Syrian state.
Free healthcare isn't really free because someone has to pay -- but, yes, for those less fortunate it is indeed free.
OTOH you have this magnificent wars to be waged far from your country. Why not kill two birds with one stone?
Just train the people who would need healthcare and send them to these places to die. Just tell them what, er... oh, yes, say that it's for the homeland. Sing an anthem, make them happy and send them.
Wait, how does this not look original to me?
PS: It's not the oil, mmkay? This is called an "excuse". It's about circling some countries you want to surround (and that's what some of the others want to do to you, too). You know, that worked so well the first time with the Crusades. Why not repeat the same blunder, I mean, the same heroic mission?
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Someone suggested. "De-Americanization."
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Imagine, Pentagon Defense Secretary Ash Carter asked the assembled group, "What shall we call our militants?"
Someone suggested. "Moderate Terrorists"
"No! for God's sake," imagined-me protested. "That would really prove the world that you have been support the terrorists." So since it had always been our terrorists, we settled finally on "Moderate Rebels."
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I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...
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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:
Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
APK
P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag:
Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
OR
About how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
LOL... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!
... apk
You are a bit confused, Su-24 not Su-25.
Su-24, a bomber, Su-25 is equivalent to A-10 Warthog (not A-2). The later is close air support aircraft.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/...
> If, as the article states, the Russian pilots came down in Syrian territory, then why should we believe they were flying above Turkeye?
Another poster points out that it's right next to the border, but the bigger piece is that NATO says they were over Turkey, and that Russia has been flying like this for awhile, getting spammed with "gtfo" messages.
It's still very very bad news, though.
Fucking stalker.
He must have a script or something. Every time you post he does too.
Fuck you stupid polish idiot. You stupid polish drunk whore mother got fucked by a drunk russian on the Black Sea, and your wife did the same, and that's why you are so bitter with life and have your head stuck up so far up your rectum it actually goes on top again. Shut the hell up and leave. All Slavic people know that the polish are the worst scum and good for nothing.
Nah, APK isn't that competent.
He's magic compared to you dolts.
We ROCK @ programming -> https://community.topcoder.com... for such a tiny nation especially!
* :)
(... now, go "eat your words", trolling weasel...)
APK
P.S.=> You wish you were me... apk
"Fucking stalker" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @08:56PM (#50998785)
See subject & that quote: R O T F L M A O - "the CRY of the 'Wild "ne'er-do-well"' as seen in its natural habitat once it runs out of "downmod points", lol... that's when their "howls of pain & anguish" start once their puny effete little 'weapon of last resort' is exhausted by "yours truly" (as only I can mind you) - as you can all see from the quote/recording above when their illogical ad hominem attacks begin, lol!
* :)
(You fail - accept it... you will ALWAYS FAIL vs. me!)
APK
P.S.=> It's not EASY being "world-class" (like me) - a burden of perfection the likes of which the "likes of you" (lowest of the LOW online in unidentifiable ac trolls, lol) will NEVER have the privelege of knowing (or the skills in computing either)... apk
I don't know who the AC is, but yeah, he does, my guess is he uses this page:
http://slashdot.org/~Coren22/c...
But occasionally he misses a comment, so it is possible he is just using Google.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
For making ME look so GOOD here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* :)
(That would NOT have been possible minus YOUR help!)
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Lastly - Coren22: You're the one with ADMITTED MENTAL ISSUES, not I ... you're the LAST PERSON who should try to play "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.", lol... you're not only NOT professionally licensed, degreed, & certified to do the job, but you're also damaged goods mentally (& the only real difference between shrinks & normal folks is basically a certificate that says they're sane).
APK
P.S.=> See, I've figured you out (along w/ other trolls like you around here, maybe 10 or so): You guys are really out to make me look good, but it's SO EASY dispatching you all with facts I use vs. your b.s. that THIS VERY THOUGHT occurred to me long ago - since, i.e., a real MCSE or CODER wouldn't have messed up so much vs. me as you have & you're allegedly MCSE... apk
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
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"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like... malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide themselves = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
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"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally say it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
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"why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else can I programmatically update hosts?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it!
Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
APK
P.S.=> You fail Coren22 - this has been YOUR "APKolypse" (& those are only part of your many fails I can put out)... apk
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
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"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM attack his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally say it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
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"why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else can I programmatically update hosts?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts itself need it vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it, not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
APK
P.S.=> You fail Coren22 - this has been YOUR "APKolypse" (& those are only part of your many fails I can put out)... apk
"Against my better judgement, I am going to comment instead of modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015 @04:21AM (#50999997)
See subject: That's what others like Dog-Cow (an old acc't. here no a new sockpuppet from you & yours) thinks of them.
* You're a FOOL...
APK
P.S.=> A trolling FOOL no less, that already LOST vs. myself bigtime -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & nicest part is, you DID IT ALL TO YOURSELF - your 'butthurt' trolling sigs about me project that butthurt of yours, lol...
... apk
So, US imperial map-carving.. gerrymandering the world at large to favor their interests.
The Russians should be just fine with that in their backyard!
Get ready for the new era of peace!
*Rumsfeldian cakewalk **armchair psychotic
Reuters is just wrong to call it " shot down a Russian Sukhoi SU-24 fighter". SU-24 is relatively old bomber, not a fighter, and that is why Turkish F-16s could down it relatively easy. I doubt they could do the same with modern Sukhoi fighters, such as SU-35. Wikipedia it, dammit.
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
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"I guess we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else can I programmatically update hosts?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts needs it vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I literally say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
What others like Dog-Cow (old acc't. not a new sockpuppet from you) thinks of your signatures about me
... apk
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"I guess we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else can I programmatically update hosts?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts needs it vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I literally say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
What others like Dog-Cow (old acc't. not a new sockpuppet from you) thinks of your signatures about me
... apk
My 5 cents
Getting rid of IS should be the top priority - they are the most direct threat to the US and their allies out of these groups. Boots on the ground is not a good idea, but the good news is those are probably not necessary - you can undermine IS using good old intelligence, diplomatic and law enforcement methods:
- shut down their online propaganda machines
- find and shut down their recruitment
- destroy their logistical centers
- disconnect their international support (money, weapons)
- stamp down on their oil business
With the above, you can weaken the enough that the other groups would annihilate them. Other than that it's hard to support any other groups in the fight against Assad - this would effectively be a proxy war with Russia and you know how those go...
It's ironic to criticize our US policy of interfering and training people that later become radicalized and turn against us, then offer "reasonable approaches" that resemble the same type of behavior being criticized, because someone knows a little more than you do about the major players in the conflict.
Do you not think that CIA, having a lot more information than your slashdotter-for-president above, may have attempted a solution that sounded just as reasonable in the past as this one sounds now ? "Arm and support this government" / "purge government of X group" / break out region into smaller states - how can you not see this is exactly how we got to where we are today, because of "reasonable" well-intended decisions like this made 20 years or more ago.
More importantly it was an F-16 FIGHTER (i.e.e equipped for AA) VS a SU-24 BOMBER as that is how it would have been configured, as that was it's mission. It isn't like the Syrian Rebels or ISIS or whomever Russia is against has any air power. Probably hard to win an air battle when not carrying air-to-air armaments, and weighed down by bombs (though he may have unloaded already).
Putin said as much in his immediate news release which said that from now on bombing missions would have a fighter escort. At that point, I am guessing things might turn out a bit differently.
Occupying Eastern Europe was very much Stalin's idea, not Trotsky's. So was his support to Mao Zedong during the Communist Revolution in China, as well as the support to North Korea in the Korean war. After WWII, the Soviets decided that they needed a buffer against the West, and so claimed everything that they had liberated from the Nazis, except maybe Austria, and occupied Eastern Europe and North Korea.
Communism was thought to be a threat b'cos of the idea that Communist countries would fall in the Soviet sphere of influence, and make more easier their attempts to make governments all over the world Communist, and swearing allegiance to them. It wasn't the fear that you'd have Russian troops in Birmingham or Boston or Fairbanks. It would also have meant things like the abolition of the US constitution and entire government set up, and making the Communist Party of the US the replacement of Congress.
The complaints about Poland having a missile defense was made b'cos there was no recognition of the changed geopolitical realities since the end of the Cold War. For the 8 years after they collapsed, Russia had pretty much disappeared from the world map as a major influential power, and was pretty busy subduing the Chechen rebels and trying to resurrect their economy. The new enemy was Islam, which the West to this day refuses to recognize, much less acknowledge. There are still NATO troops in Iceland, Germany and Japan. But the threats to the West are more from resurgent Islamic countries - not just Iran, but potentially other Islamic countries as well via Jihad terrorism - countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Turkey, Yemen, Qatar, Saudi Arabia... Even if their governments may be superficially pro-US, their populations definitely ain't, and are very committed to supporting Jihadi campaigns against the West. Some may do it out of religious fervor, and others may do it just out of a good ole Third World envy and hatred of the West.
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
---
"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
---
"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
---
"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
&
Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
---
"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
---
"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
P.S.=>
"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk
Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
---
"privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015
How else programmatically update it?
"requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015
Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.
---
"secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes
"yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...
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"we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)
60++ reputable sources say different:
64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...
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"MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015
Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.
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"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015
Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007
http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...
See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.
APK
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"modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015
Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me
... apk