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Japanese Company Makes Low-Calorie Noodles Out of Wood

Posted by timothy on from the anything-that-makes-cellulose-digestible dept.

AmiMoJo writes: Omikenshi Co, an Osaka based cloth manufacturer best known for rayon, a fibre made from tree pulp, is expanding into the health food business. Using a similar process, Omikenshi is turning the indigestible cellulose into a pulp that's mixed with konjac, a yam-like plant grown in Japan. The resulting fibre-rich flour, which the company calls "cell-eat," contains no gluten, no fat and almost no carbohydrate. It has just 60 calories a kilogram, compared with 3,680 for wheat.

159 comments

  1. Gluten Free First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Low calorie substance with full calorie taste.

    1. Re: Gluten Free First Post by pollarda · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      I bet it is really tasty when smothered with butter. It probably comes in a variety of flavors: pine, cedar, eucalyptus, oak, maple....

    2. Re: Gluten Free First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Don't forget Hemlock!

    3. Re: Gluten Free First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That was low, no one should be compared to APK

    4. Re: Gluten Free First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget Hemlock!

      Who ever modded you down most likely did so in ignorance but your post brings to light the fact that Tsuga heterophylla (the western hemlock) has a cambium layer that is highly nutritious. Here on slashdot there are very few who actually know squat about trees and the fact that the cambium layer of many trees is a viable food source. It is something which we should not dismiss out of hand. It is obvious that the quality of the audience that frequents slashdot is going for a shit if no one else understands the importance of trees as a potential food source for the future.

      Western Hemlock, Black Spruce (Picea mariana) and many other species of trees helped sustain and were a very important source of starch for most tribes in North America. In our ignorance and stupidity we dismissed and failed to learn the importance of their food gathering methods and sources. In the future if we continue to ignore how they survived and thrived for thousands of years and continue to think that it was purely by means of eating animals then we will miss what is really possible with what was here in North America in abundance. If we learn to slowly augment and change our food culture and agricultural methods to make them more sustainable in our environment then perhaps we can thrive in the future and do less damage to the environment.

      I am posting anon so that I can mod you up to at least try to reveal your original post. Perhaps you did not know the difference between a hemlock tree and a hemlock plant that is in the carrot family but if this is the case the irony of your post is worth the reading at least for those who have some education in North American forest ecology. Here in North America there is no reason why our lumber industry cannot also become a sustainable food industry especially in regards to some species of Hemlock and Spruce which are two of our key lumber tree species. All we have to do is open our minds. We can lead the world in developing ecologically sensitive sustainable food sources if we really learn to look to the past and not dismiss the knowledge of those who came before us.

    5. Re: Gluten Free First Post by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      As far as I recall, from looking at pictures of him, APK is a very large guy. You perhaps shouldn't mix "not fat" with "APK".

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    6. Re: Gluten Free First Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a 'maple walnut' scone once that I would swear was carved directly out of maple + walnut.

  2. What is the food value? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It sounds mostly like indigestible filler

    Kinda like this story!

    Heyooooooo

    1. Re:What is the food value? by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      So, those noodles are from the same matter as cardboard?

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  3. Yeah by liqu1d · · Score: 0

    Sounds delicious...

    1. Re:Yeah by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Seriously, finally. Hopefully they can come up with a bread and a chip substitute. It is astounding how many calories are driven by bread and chips.

      A cheeseburger with this will lose about 2/5ths its calories.

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    2. Re:Yeah by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Not to mention all the dips you eat with them. Low-carb diets work for several reasons, but the simplest is that it's a lot harder to eat junk food.

  4. Woodles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is all.

    1. Re:Woodles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I laughed at all day. Thanks for that.

      ..."woodles", clever.

    2. Re:Woodles? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Wood woodles waste wonderful!

      Sawy, couldn't wesist.

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  5. Next up: Stone candy. by ffkom · · Score: 2

    How insanely orthorectic the world has become! Seriously, the very purpose of food is to supply energy to the body. If you don't want to supply energy, chew a gum or suck some stone candy. Neither this nor the noodle surrogate will trick your body to think it has been supplied with enough energy.

    1. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by RS+Taylor · · Score: 1

      It does seem a bit like eating sawdust on a sliver of potato. Might be good roughage though!

    2. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by DRJlaw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Neither this nor the noodle surrogate will trick your body to think it has been supplied with enough energy.

      Not the point. The point is to reduce the energy density of the food while, hopefully, retaining most of its other characteristics.

      Your body does not instantly know when you've ingested enough calories to be satiated. If your food is highly energy dense, it is easy to overshoot. If you have to actually eat for 15-30 minutes to get enough calories for your meal, the odds are far better that you'll feel full after consuming the appropriate amount of calories rather than the double-whammy-megablast that is that second quarter-pounder with cheese.

    3. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by ffkom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If your food is highly energy dense, it is easy to overshoot.

      It doesn't matter if you "overshoot", as it just means there will be a longer time until you get hungry. The human body is way more precise in long-term energy intake regulation than any bean-counting diet can ever be. Just have a look at groups of people who diet mostly on energy-dense food, like those on ketogenic diets or ethnic groups eating mostly fatty fish and whale meat etc. - those sure don't have an obesity epidemic because of that.

      Combine artificial food with an artificial avoidance of motion, and you are much more likely to become obese.

      These artificial noodles are as useless to fight obesity as are artificial sweeteners and "fat-substitutes" in dairy products.

    4. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by bfpierce · · Score: 0

      "It doesn't matter if you "overshoot", as it just means there will be a longer time until you get hungry." Your brain does not work this way. Good night!

    5. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Layzej · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Germans apparently ate sawdust during WW1: The foul black bread that was served was known as kriegsbrot, which translates to war bread. The recipe is quoted from the records of the German food providing ministry published in Berlin in 1941 was "50% bruised rye grain, 20% sliced sugar beets, 20% tree flour (sawdust), 10% minced leaves and straw" - https://books.google.ca/books?...

    6. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with you in spirit, but disagree in terms of basic caloric intake.

      Once we have the ability to create tasty foods with effectively no caloric value, it doesn't matter how much our bodies tell us to eat. We can only hold so much worthless food at a time. If we can literally gorge ourselves on near-zero calorie foods, we will have solved obesity, simple as that.

      I do have to wonder how our bodies will rebel against this latest way to eat-without-eating, but strictly in terms of energy-budgets, this seems like a win/win.

    7. Re: Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yours might not, because like a fool you subscribe to group think that you must eat three times a day, but in nature this is not how it works.
      Animals are always slightly hungry because they dont know where the next meal is coming from, this translates to humans as grazing, which if controlled is very healthy. Smaller meals/snacks throughout the day and occasionally a bug game kill, or feast. Don't always eat until 'full' just until your not hungry anymore and you will be perfectly healthy.

      Most people have forgotten what real hunger is and have conditioning which when violated they think is hunger but is really their brains going in to panic mode.

      Try fasting sometime. You will learn the difference.

      I have the body of a Greek God, because I am not an idiot. When I don't follow the program and eat with the crowd, I gain weight. When I eat like Gaia or Satan intended I look like Archer.

      Try it, you will thank me.

    8. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter if you "overshoot", as it just means there will be a longer time until you get hungry.

      You are wrong. You have to eat at regular intervals, regardless of how much you ate earlier, in order to correctly modulate blood sugar. This is the entire mechanism of how people get both obesity and diabetes. Please actually read something about this topic before talking about it.

    9. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by nashv · · Score: 1

      Your body never correlates the enough calories signal with the satiation signal while eating anyway. Satiation is mediated by Ghrelin and Ghrelin levels fall rapidly after eating leading to a feeling of satiation irrespective of caloric intake.

      Caloric intake is sensed through a complex interplay involving the liver. Your overshoot theory doesnt seem to hold.

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    10. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by kheldan · · Score: 1

      This. Things like this are just poor attempts at doing and end-run around having to (gasp!) actually change your eating habits (read as: getting the fork out of your mouth), which takes planning, committment, and (shocking!) will-power, along with sufficient exercise to create a caloric deficit. The problem is people never want to give anything up, they're averse to doing any actual work (even paying people to lose weight doesn't work), and have no patience (which is why shitty diet pills that don't do a damn thing still sell like hotcakes). You want to lose weight? Here's the only four words you need to know: Move more, eat less.

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    11. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Stone candy.

      Rocks!

    12. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I wonder what this make to your colon and shit though.

      Because sugar-alcohols completely messes you up. How this affect the colon/poop is what matters the most.

    13. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wrong. You have to eat at regular intervals, regardless of how much you ate earlier, in order to correctly modulate blood sugar. This is the entire mechanism of how people get both obesity and diabetes. Please actually read something about this topic before talking about it.

      Only if glucose is your primary fuel... Ketones are a much better fuel source.

    14. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't matter if you "overshoot", as it just means there will be a longer time until you get hungry.

      Sadly that's not true. The feeling of hunger is based on volume and some chemical signals. Not on how many calories you have eaten. Something like soup will stay in your stomach for longer and so you'll feel fuller for longer. A high protein meal seems to delay you feeling hungry for longer, so a morning fry-up is better than a bowl of cornflakes for getting to lunchtime without wanting a snack. And the modern sugar-rich foods we have mean you can overshoot by orders of magnitude what the body is capable of processing in a given period of time, which is why type 2 diabetes exists.

    15. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of course there is the obligatory bark bread.

    16. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of Germans, the Russians were forced to eat such things during some (Stalingrad and Leningrad, that I know of) sieges that took place in the Great Patriotic War. I think the similarity is that, in both cases, the fault lays squarely on the shoulders of the German government.

    17. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have seen a skinny Inuit?

    18. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

      The human body is way more precise in long-term energy intake regulation than any bean-counting diet can ever be. Just have a look at groups of people who diet mostly on energy-dense food, like those on ketogenic diets or ethnic groups eating mostly fatty fish and whale meat etc. - those sure don't have an obesity epidemic because of that.

      It's cute how reality disagrees with your unsubstantiated bullshit. Especially when these people are not actually eating ketogenic diets and you're bitching about a carbohydrate replacement.

    19. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My great grandfather developed coal-derived (yes, that coal from the mines) foods for the Germans during the WW2.

    20. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Vermonter · · Score: 2

      Don't forget boredom... I find boredom is the biggest reason I eat when I'm not really hungry.

    21. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by jandersen · · Score: 2

      If we can literally gorge ourselves on near-zero calorie foods, we will have solved obesity, simple as that.

      Probably not. Research has shown that when we eat artificial sweetener, the tongue (as well as taste receptors in our gut) sends signals to prepare the body to process the incoming sugar, resulting in certain reactions (increased insulin production, other things); when no sugar turns up, the body begins to adjust to the fact that sugar taste doesn't mean sugar: the body becomes 'sugar-blind' in effect.

      I think in order to overcome the obesity crisis, we should go the other way: we should try to become more sensitive to what calories we consume, not less. Otherwise we end up in the situation we see in the US, where people seem to be obscessed with overconsumption on an epic scale. Breaking out of an obscession like that is not easy, I know, but it is possible. However, to do so, it is probably essential to stay away from foods that lie about their calory content. So: eat sugar, butter, meat etc, but only eat a little. Learn to enjoy feeling hungry from time to time - it isn't dangerous.

    22. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Fross · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm afraid this isn't quite correct and you've got a lot of common fallacies in this.

      Satiety is not a function of calorie intake. While not 100% understood the two strongest indicators we know of are a hormone released on consumption of protein, and the amount of material in the stomach. E.g. "In one study of 38 common foods, both men and women subjects consumed foods with equal calorie contents and their feelings of fullness were recorded every 15 minutes for 2 hours. Highest satiating power was found with high levels of protein, dietary fibre and water and low satiating power was related to higher fat foods." http://www.eufic.org/article/e...

      "Overshooting" with energy dense foods is not regulated well by the human body - the obesity epidemic is extremely obvious evidence of this. You try to attribute this to "artificial food" but that is a very weak strawman - it's the (relatively) recent availability of extremely energy dense foods such as refined sugar, flour, HFCS with high taste appeal and low satiety that cause the issues.

      The groups of people on "energy dense food" you mention are actually predominantly on high protein foods, which control satiety well as above. While it is possible to become obese on it it is unlikely in the real world as they are predominantly poor ethnic groups, or people with a vested interest in their diet. The obese are people on true energy dense foods (high carbohydrate and high fat) - it is a lot easier to eat 4000 calories a day of cakes than on a carb free diet.

      It's obvious that food to humans in the first world is not just a matter of "supplying energy to the body" as you state, people eat for pleasure, and energy-dense foods contribute to obesity by being exceptionally rewarding to the palate to most people. Exercise is a contributing factor but secondary - you can't outrun a bad diet.

      These noodles will help people to cut out energy dense material within their diet, and will therefore help obesity all other things being equal. Of course it's not as good as portion control, sensible diet choices and moderate exercise, but the obese aren't doing these anyway.

    23. Re: Next up: Stone candy. by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      When I eat like Gaia or Satan intended I look like Archer.

      I don't know, he looks kind of skinny.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    24. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by cardpuncher · · Score: 1
      There was a time when unscrupulous jam makers added handmade wooden pips to a coloured sweet slurry that was passed off as raspberry jam.

      Though it would (ha, ha) at least have been calorific.

    25. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Layzej · · Score: 1

      That is strange. Raspberry plants grow like weeds. It seems like it would be easier to pick some berries than hand make wooden pips.

    26. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by paulpach · · Score: 1

      Where are my mod points when I need them?

      Fross, you nailed it.

    27. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... if you are eating your calories mainly as carbohydrates (especially "naked" ones, like starches and sucrose), yes, that is true. The insulin high / sugar low will make you hungry at regular intervals, regardless of how much you ate in a given meal.

      However, I have found out from experience this is not quite the case when most of your calories come from fat, and you are adapted to it properly. If I have a heavy breakfast (eggs, bacon, cheese), I normally don't even feel like having lunch. I'm just not hungry, and by not hungry I mean the sight or smell of food isn't even remotely attractive to me.

      Sometimes I won't even have my next meal until the next day. And this is from a former hypoglycemic, who had to have doses of sugar at regular intervals, sometimes even during the night.

      My hunger also tends to decline very sharply, from one bite to the next. For instance, I'd be having a portion of nuts, and suddenly I won't feel like having even one more. Not so when my diet was mostly carbs. Then I'd have one more piece of cake, to end up being overfull without meaning to.

    28. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      It seems simple, and yet experience proves that it's hard to just eat less.

    29. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Hunger often comes from how full the stomach is rather than sensing being low on calories. There are also compulsive eaters, always nibblinb on something regardless of actual hunger.

    30. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sugar alcohols only mess you up when your body is not accustomed to them. If you introduce sugar alcohols to your diet gradually, your body learns how to process them. Start with maybe chewing a Xylitol gum daily, work up to some daily Xylitol hard candies, and in a few weeks you should have no problems digesting sugar alcohol.

    31. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by ffkom · · Score: 1

      These noodles will help people to cut out energy dense material within their diet, and will therefore help obesity all other things being equal.

      You'll see that energy-depleted fake noodles will not counter obesity, just like all the other "light" products, they will rather promote overweight than reducing it.

      And cooked noodles aren't even particulary energy dense to start with - as they consist of more water than carbohydrates. Walnuts, for example contain far more energy per mass and per volume, and still recent studies showed a long-term decrease of body weight when spoilt first-world people ate 75g of them per day, rendering their diet "more energy dense" than before.

      The sense of a "full" or "empty" stomach is simply different from "becoming hungry" from a lack of energy supply. Actually, food leaves the stomach quite fast, and you can experience hours of not feeling hungry at all even after what was in your stomach has long traveled into the colon. Playing tricks on your sensation of a "full stomach" may have a short term effect on your energy intake during one meal - but sense of becoming hungry again depends on your available supply of engery, not on the fullness of your stomach.

    32. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by ffkom · · Score: 1

      Once we have the ability to create tasty foods with effectively no caloric value, it doesn't matter how much our bodies tell us to eat. ... I do have to wonder how our bodies will rebel against this latest way to eat-without-eating, but strictly in terms of energy-budgets, this seems like a win/win.

      You can easily do an experiment on yourself to prove this would not be a win: Just start a free day without breakfast and perform some aerobic but exhausting activities for several hours, until significantly after your usual "lunch time". Then eat a meal consisting of lots of particulary low-energy dense food - like salad or vegetables.

      You will experience then a situation where your stomach is really full - to the point where you really don't want to stuff more food into you, but at the same time you are still hungry, as in "craving for energy".

      That feeling is quite unusual, I've tried it a few times. Normally there is no good reason to enter such a situation. But it's an interesting experience, because you can then really feel that "full stomach" and "being hungry" are not mutually exclusive.

      And that is what it would feel like to eat fake, zero-energy food.

    33. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      out of season maybe? Too lazy to store any? (but not enough to carve the seeds?)

    34. Re:Next up: Stone candy. by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Not for your brain.

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  6. Wow by Stewie241 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who wood have thought?

    1. Re:Wow by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 0

      Ugh, I hope you were paid by their marketing department to make that terrible joke.

      Cos that would make you a plant...

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    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Leaf him alone. Sadness stems from criticism.

    3. Re:Wow by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Who wood have thought?

      I would love to taste chips made of this stuff!

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    4. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should branch out into comedy.

    5. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such comments stem from deep rooted problems.

    6. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is terrible I'm leafing

    7. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off, reddit.

    8. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes... I bet they'd taste pulpy. Boy, I Pine for the days when we could go to the Beech and eat real food. But, I'm barking up the wrong tree. I can't help it, I get board. That's the plane truth.

      This folks, this is why puns aren't Poplar.

    9. Re: Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You win, take a bough

    10. Re: Wow by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Leaf it to the AC to get to the root of the discussion.

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    11. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > This folks, this is why puns aren't Poplar.

      I cedar making a comeback!

    12. Re:Wow by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Here ya go
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      I wouldn't want to eat them though...

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    13. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a bough

  7. So Asking Her If She Wants Some Wood by zenlessyank · · Score: 1

    is no longer offensive???!!! Sweeet.

  8. It's got cellulose by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's what termites crave.

  9. Save a noodle, by nuckfuts · · Score: 1

    eat a tree!

    1. Re:Save a noodle, by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      eat a tree!

      "Many parts are edible."

  10. Re:This works great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  11. even without cellulose by NostalgiaForInfinity · · Score: 1

    Search on Amazon: there are already dozens of konjac-based noodles. They are indeed widely used for weight loss.

    1. Re:even without cellulose by GrpA · · Score: 1

      Yes, but getting the look and feel right is a challenge. Konjac noodles also smell really terrible before you wash and clean them.

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  12. Famine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    These sorts of technologies always remind me of famine from Good Omens (By Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman )
    "
    CHOW^TM contained spun, plaited, and woven protein molecules, capped and coded, carefully designed to be ignored by even the most ravenous digestive tract enzymes; no-cal sweeteners; mineral oils replacing vegetable oils; fibrous materials, colourings, and flavourings. The end result was a foodstuff almost indistinguishable from any other except for two things. Firstly, the price, which was slightly higher, and secondly, the nutritional content, which was roughly equivalent to that of a Sony Walkman.
    "

  13. Is it soaked by queazocotal · · Score: 1

    in wood?

    1. Re:Is it soaked by Sowelu · · Score: 1

      Come back to imgur, I don't think memes are meant to spread like that :l

  14. What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would someone eat something that contains almost no nourishment? You need either carbs or fat just to survive.

    I see no point to this, but am genuinely curious what it would be.

    1. Re:What's the point? by GrpA · · Score: 1

      Fiber is still good for your body, and many people need to control their calorie intake without wanting to forgo the satisfaction of feeling full. This isn't about starving yourself to death - it's about being able to better control what you eat.

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    2. Re:What's the point? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Why would someone eat something that contains almost no nourishment

      To enjoy the pleasure of food without contributing as much to obesity? cf. the entire diet-foods industry.

      That said, I've had some of these yam-like noodle products, and the ones I got tasted like hell and digested even worse. Hopefully a large dose of cellulose can fix that. I'd love to have some chee cheong fun with the majority of calories coming from the sauce and meats!

      You need either carbs or fat just to survive.

      Or protein.

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    3. Re:What's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would seem that self control is too much to ask.

    4. Re:What's the point? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      You still need carbs, it's just that your body is capable of turning things other than carbs into carbs. Similarly, we need vitamin D to be fully functional health-wise, and that can come from sunlight or milk. That doesn't mean we don't need Vitamin D.

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    5. Re:What's the point? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      Why not eat nutritious food instead?

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  15. Re:Food post but no cow post by penguinoid · · Score: 0

    What is comment section coming to without a post about cows?

    High cellulose foods are for cows. Moo, moo, etc.

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  16. Laying a log by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    will have a whole new meaning.

  17. Famine (Good Omens) by DivineKnight · · Score: 1

    He created nouvelle (which consisted of a string bean, a couple of peas and a paper-thin slice of chicken), D-Plan dieting and various foods that contained no actual nutrition whatsoever. He enjoys the paradox permitted by modern food technology: that people can eat "foodstuffs" which look, smell, and taste like food, yet contain precisely zero on any scale of nutritive value. Obesity entertains him: the concept that people can eat far too much and yet still die of food-related disorders

    http://wiki.lspace.org/mediawi...

  18. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Domino's pizza has been making their crust out of recycled wood for years.

    1. Re:Old news by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pro tip: remove the pizza from the corrugated cardboard box it comes in.

    2. Re:Old news by Jbcarpen · · Score: 1

      I've tried that. It doesn't change the flavor much.

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    3. Re:Old news by Immerman · · Score: 1

      True, but it does reduce the nutritional value quite a bit.

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    4. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's funee cuz u thot he cudnt get the pizza out box! LAL! u r liek andrew diec clay! LAL!

    5. Re:Old news by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Who invited YouTube commenters to Slashdot? They need to be drawn and quartered.

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    6. Re:Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have done this. I admit it tastes better, but it's much less filling without the pizza inside.

  19. Uninteresting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too busy working on new particle board made from rice noodles.

  20. Amazing! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    It gives me flatulence just thinking about it.

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    1. Re:Amazing! by Quasimodem · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, just bottle and market your farts as an arboreal air freshener.

  21. Re: It's KILO-calorie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A food "calorie" is a kilocalorie, you miron.

  22. Keto by SumDog · · Score: 1

    I've been on a mostly-Keto diet for over a year now. I dropped from 70kg to 61kg. The lowest I've been was 57kg but I've occasionally been eating pizza while travelling or drinking more with friends. Overall it's been a great lifestyle choice. I feel better. I have more energy. It's easier to build muscles. I weigh less and if all the data is correct, I have a much lower chance of heart disease.

    I still meet people who sad low-carb is bad. I'm visiting some vegetarian friends who seriously believe that (and one of them teaches health classes in the Peace Corps!). I've been staying with them a month, eating way too many beans and potatoes. I finally went out an bought some meat on my own and next week I fly out. I'll be so glad to cook for myself again. I've gained at least 2kg while here.

    Anyway, if these noodles are the real deal, and they don't taste like cardboard, it would awesome. I'd love to chow down on them with some pesto and feta cheese. Yum!

    1. Re:Keto by swb · · Score: 1

      It would be nice to have a low carb replacement for flour that would provide a convincing replacement for bread, chips and pasta. You can kind of do some stuff with almond flour, but I haven't always been impressed with it.

      I'd like to see something more interesting done with pork rinds, even. They're not a bad replacment for crunchy chips, but it seems like the only kind you can find are really bad BBQ or "spicy" flavors. It would be nice to have some kind of yellow corn or neutral flavorings that could be used with guacamole or salsa. I stumbled across a decent nacho cheese flavor on a trip -- you can order them online, but there's like a 2 case minimum and that's a lot of commitment.

    2. Re:Keto by i_ate_god · · Score: 1

      doesn't keto also mean no alcohol?

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      I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
    3. Re:Keto by Xenx · · Score: 1

      I think that was the point of saying mostly, and then specifically mentioning their weight went up due to pizza and drinking.

    4. Re:Keto by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      You can get then right now!

      www.walgreens.com/store/c/lowrey's-bacon-curls-microwave-pork-rinds-original18-bags/ID=prod6156528-product

      You're welcome

    5. Re:Keto by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      You have too be careful of the type of alcohol, many have lots off carbs.

      That and being seriously keto and drinking lots of... say... vodka and water with a lime can make you seriously black out, but keep going a long long time after.

      We used to call it blackout fuel.

  23. Old news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Cellulose powder/sawdust in food isn't really a new idea.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB...

    http://www.npr.org/sections/th...

    Probably not hurting anything though.

  24. So, Wood Filler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Contains almost no nutrients, why eat it?

    1. Re:So, Wood Filler by Sowelu · · Score: 2

      Same reason people drink diet soda.

    2. Re:So, Wood Filler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it is fizzy and contains caffeine?

  25. Re: It's KILO-calorie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A food "calorie" is a kilocalorie, you miron.

    My bad I had forgotten about this american unit. Now, is a US miron a micromoron or more like a kilomoron?

  26. Nature's Harvest? by blogagog · · Score: 1

    I'm not positive of the name, but I want to say Nature's Harvest made a white bread that claimed to have 400% more fiber than 100% wheat bread in the 1980s. The way they were doing it was mixing sawdust in with the bread. In the ingredient list, they called it simply 'cellulose'.

    I tried it and it tasted pretty much like any other loaf of bread. But once it became semi-public knowledge that there was wood in it, they took it off the market.

  27. Konjac flour already has zero calories by Teppy · · Score: 1

    The big innovation here is adding wood pulp to an already zero-calorie food?? Konjac ("Devil's Tongue Yam") flour has zero calories and noodles made from it already taste good. You can find them in any asian market sold as "Shirataki Noodles" or in a solid block form called Konnyaku. They are traditionally part of Sukiyaki, and are available online from konjacfoods.com and miraclenoodle.com.

    1. Re:Konjac flour already has zero calories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shirataki Noodles (aka Yam noodles) smell like fish, have no taste and are VERY rubbery. If you pan fry them slowly for a while you can reduce their rubberiness but they also shrink significantly during that process. They're 'meh' @ best.

    2. Re:Konjac flour already has zero calories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > smell like fish, have no taste and are VERY rubbery

      liek ur mom

    3. Re:Konjac flour already has zero calories by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      noodles made from it already taste good

      I've had shirataki noodles before. You can get them in small quantities from your local Asian grocery store if you just want to try them out.

      My general impression of them was that there was no taste once properly rinsed, but that the texture ranged somewhere on the spectrum between nauseating and revolting.

      YMMV.

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  28. Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might as well just eat cardboard

  29. Guys! Perfect for breakfast in bed! by jargonburn · · Score: 1

    She'll just love your "morning wood!"

  30. Nope! Stone soup by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Next up: Stone candy.

    It's stone soup. Look it up.

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  31. Cognac Noodles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a pulp that's mixed with konjac,

    It's so close, so close..

  32. Japan this, Japan that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More crap from the manga fapping SJW.

  33. Hmm by sociocapitalist · · Score: 1

    I'm reminded of the food products created by 'famine' in Pratchett & Gaimens' 'Good Omens' which one could eat as much as one wanted and yet starve to death -

    "Nouvelle cuisine (the sort that consists of “a string bean, a pea, and a sliver of chicken breast, aesthetically arranged on a square china plate,” invented “the last time he’d been in Paris,”; diet fads (“D-Plan Dieting: Slim Yourself Beautiful, the book was called; The Diet Book of the Century!”; and new foods (“indistinguishable from any other [food] except for [] the nutritional content, which was roughly equivalent to that of a Sony Walkman. It didn’t matter how much you ate, you lost weight. [] And hair. And skin tone. And, if you ate enough of it long enough, vital signs”

    I strongly recommend the book, incidentally - a great read -
    http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ome...

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  34. This one wierd trick... by RuffMasterD · · Score: 1

    ... will make you shit a brick.

    --
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    1. Re:This one wierd trick... by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2

      2 X 4 more likely..

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  35. Re: It's KILO-calorie by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

    I always understood that a nutrition Calorie was written with a capital 'C', whereas the energy needed to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree C was a 'calorie' (lower 'c'). By this definition the OP is correct.

  36. Great next to a Haitian delicacy by iTrawl · · Score: 1

    These "woodles" (see a post above providing this name) should be an improvement in taste when served next to Haity mud pies. Similar nutritional value, but probably a bit tastier.

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  37. Explodes onto the market by BlazingATrail · · Score: 1

    Explodes onto the market just like Olestra.

  38. Bariatric surgery by a_claudiu · · Score: 1

    The human body is way more precise in long-term energy intake regulation

    Bariatric surgery proves the reverse. Just reducing the volume of stomach makes the body filling full faster. And it's effective.

    Eating energy-dense food combined with exercises and burning calories is a different story.

    1. Re:Bariatric surgery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except... at least a third of people who undergo bariatric surgery (the reduction of stomach volume kind, not the malabsorptive sort, which is more risky long term in terms of multiple deficencies) retake the weight they have lost within one or two years...

  39. Re:This works great by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

    No longer am I held down by hypnotic toad rays, devious Italian subversion, or the enemies of Laura! They fall before me and I squash the toads effortlessly with one foot after another!

    Obligatory Hypnotoad 10 Hours to test your resolve to continue with the starvation diet. As you gaze into those flippy-floppy eyes you will realize that you have been deceived. It is the common toads that you are squashing to clear the ecological niche for Hypnotoad progeny. You will not mind this. Your noddle-starved noodle will revel in it.

    If you also eat the Styrofoam cups you'll be able to swim like Aquaman.

    --
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  40. Cinnamon by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Germans apparently ate sawdust during WW1: The foul black bread that was served was known as kriegsbrot, which translates to war bread. The recipe is quoted from the records of the German food providing ministry published in Berlin in 1941 was "50% bruised rye grain, 20% sliced sugar beets, 20% tree flour (sawdust), 10% minced leaves and straw" - https://books.google.ca/books?...

    What about cinnamon? Woodn't that qualify as wood food too? Definitely more natural than eating shoes or drinking socks tea.

  41. Low calorie noodles already exist by DrXym · · Score: 4, Informative
    This stuff already exists - noodles made from konjac flour and oat fibre. It's gluten free, low calorie etc.

    I have no idea what it tastes like because its ludicrously expensive. Holland and Barrett sell quite a few brands of it. Most are packaged in watery bags which suggests the noodles themselves are saturated with water and lose their cohesion if they're allowed to dry out.

    1. Re:Low calorie noodles already exist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the Linux kernel already exists, but as new versions are presumably superior, we do still get Slashdot stories about them. This, too, might be a case where the new stuff is better than the old. Pure konjac noodles have a very weird mouthfeel, like chewing on rubber bands. Maybe this company has found a better solution. Also, trees might allow you to grow more usable biomass per unit of area than konjac and oats, so that might also be nice.

    2. Re:Low calorie noodles already exist by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Substituting oat fibre for cellulose isn't going to make any difference to taste or anything else. I doubt it would be any more sustainable either. I can believe that konjac is weird in the mouth since lots of sites carry warnings to drink water because it doesn't dissolve the way other gelatinous products do.

    3. Re:Low calorie noodles already exist by MacDork · · Score: 1

      It's only expensive if you buy it there :) Go to an Asian grocery and look near the tofu in the fridge. You'll probably find the Konnyaku there. It comes as noodles or in a brick that you slice. It's a hard jelly.. a bit like agar, but more firm. It doesn't really have any taste unless you have one of those delicate Japanese palettes, unspoiled by sugary American snacks and hot sauce.

    4. Re:Low calorie noodles already exist by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      I've had shirataki noodles before. They are basically tasteless, which is fine for a noodle, but the texture absolutely churned my stomach. It was all that I could do to avoid vomiting.

      Perhaps these wood pulp noodles will have a better mouth feel.

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  42. Re: It's KILO-calorie by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    The EU's unit would be a MegaMoron, such as yourself.

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  43. We Are Termites by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    Termites may be displaced if humans start eating wood. And what will happen to the lowly beaver?

  44. Life finds a way by coughfeeman · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be funny if after extended consumption of this product, the gut biome changes to resemble a termite's and people start extracting nutrients and getting fat from the fermenting cellulose?

  45. This idea is old news by FreedomFirstThenPeac · · Score: 1

    I remembered high-fiber, low calorie bread ... made with wood fiber. See Wood pulp as fiber in bread

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  46. Final Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Nazis used to feed camp prisoners with bread made from saw dust (free of charge) to extract slave labor while guaranteeing eventual death of the prisoners.
    Today lardbutts (yours truly being one of) are being charged (good) money to be fed the same (well, similar) ration.

  47. Evolution will take care of this by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    If for some reason this becomes wildly popular then some gut bacteria will happily evolve to eat the wood. It then may very well provide us with more sustenance. If I understand correctly Japanese people often have a gut bacteria that helps them to better digest Seaweed.

  48. What's the point? by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    Celery already exists, has negative net calories, and tastes better than wood.

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  49. Used to eat konjac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I lived in Japan and used to eat Konjac for dinner in a bid to be an itty bitty white girl in Japan. It worked like a charm. I cooked the noodles in pasta sauce and it tasted like spaghetti. Problem is, this stuff does NOT fill you up. I just got used to being hungry. These types of foods will never solve obesity because you do not feel full after eating it. Same as you will still feel hungry even if you gorge yourself on soup broth. Your stomach may be full but the hunger is still there. Obesity won't be solved until portion control and healthy eating are firmly established as a person's diet.

  50. GOOD! by iq145 · · Score: 1

    So now they can stop eating whales and dolphins!: http://www.newser.com/story/21...

  51. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

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  52. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk

  53. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

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  54. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk

  55. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk

  56. Coren22's impersonation "APKolypse" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coren22 IMPERSONATES RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE SECURITY COMMUNITY http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

    ---

    "privilege escalation's a bad thing" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

    How else programmatically update it?

    "requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

    Hypocrite later admits it - hosts do vs. WFP/SFP not my ware. Users set it not programmatic impersonation. Security wares need it.

    ---

    "secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code & said it looked all good" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes

    "yes I've seen the code & yes it is safe." FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

    ---

    "we should avoid your crap it looks like malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

    60++ reputable sources say different:

    64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    +

    32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

    &

    Installer-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

    MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

    ---

    "MiTM... his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

    Hardcoded favs users provide = REVERSE DNS verified & my ware filters 5,500++ false positives - security site hosts data = false positives filtered.

    ---

    "Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

    Show us where I say it? Not illogic logic but where I say it. I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

    See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there.

    APK

    P.S.=>

    "modding you down for trolling in your signature" - by Dog-Cow (21281) on Wednesday November 25, 2015

    Dog-Cow's (old acc't. no new sockpuppet from you) thoughts of your signatures about me

    ... apk