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Researchers Uncover the Genetic Roots Behind Rare Vibration Allergy (vice.com)

derekmead writes: A team of National Health Institute researchers has for the first time uncovered the genetic roots of one of the strangest allergies: vibrations. The vibration allergy, which is just as it sounds, may be quite rare, but understanding it more completely may yield important insights into the fundamental malfunctioning of immune cells in the presence of allergens. The group's findings are published in the New England Journal of Medicine. In addition to being uncommon, the vibration allergy is not very dangerous. In most cases, the allergic response is limited to hives—the pale, prickly rash most often associated with allergic and autoimmune reactions. Other less-common symptoms include headaches, blurry vision, fatigue, and flushing. The triggering vibrations are everyday things: jogging, jackhammering, riding a motorcycle, towel drying. Symptoms appear within a few minutes of exposure and are gone usually within an hour.

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  1. Wifi allergy by waynemcdougall · · Score: 2

    And what if I have a vibration allergy in the 2.4 GHz range?

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    1. Re:Wifi allergy by brian.stinar · · Score: 1

      Then you must live in the great capital city of my state, Santa Fe.

    2. Re:Wifi allergy by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "Then you must live in the great capital city of my state, Santa Fe. [engadget.com]"

      So Saul's crazy brother is not an aberration there?

    3. Re:Wifi allergy by antdude · · Score: 1

      Or both? :P

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    4. Re:Wifi allergy by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      And what if I have a vibration allergy in the 2.4 GHz range?

      Then you're allergic to LED lights, but only when they're on a wireless router.

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    5. Re:Wifi allergy by ITRambo · · Score: 2

      It's logical to presume that our universe did not create a demon with horns that tortures "bad" people for all of eternity at the whim of a bearded white man sitting on a throne atop a cloud, with his spirit on one side and his son on the other side. The universe is far greater than that, whether it was created by the word of God that gave birth to the universe, or an initial vibration that set off a massive expansion and standing waves that led to the formation of matter when things cooled down.

    6. Re:Wifi allergy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And what if I have a vibration allergy in the 2.4 GHz range?

      Then you're allergic to LED lights, but only when they're on a wireless router.

      I'm getting a bit tired of all the jokes regarding wifi allergy. They are lame and don't deal with the issue. If the issue exist, then you are making fun of handicapped people. If it doesn't exist, then you make fun of mentally ill people. On top of that, it's not even funny when people keep telling the same "joke".

      Medical books aren't flawless. Take for instance phantom pain, as in pain in amputated arms or legs. This was described as lack of nerve ping reply and can appear when nerve pathways are cut. Misshapen people born without fully developed limbs were viewed as mental disturbed when complaining about pain and it was a sign of envy towards "normal" people. At some point one doctor started researching the books for the source experiment for this info and failed to locate it. He then used a brain scanner to see activity in the pain center. While the pain was easy to detect, it turned out that it was impossible to tell from the scan if the limb was present at birth or not. In other words pain is lack of ping reply, but it doesn't have to have ever worked in order to trigger. They don't yell highly about all the people they labeled as mentally ill due to complaining about pain through the years.

      A more "fun" case was a doctor who treats people with back problems. They then to ask about sex and he answered what the books states. At some point he noticed the the single source for "correct" position for minimizing strain on the back turned out to be a single doctor, who assumed the answer without tests. After this discovery he decided to test this with a scientific approach. He made test subjects do it in all sorts of positions and measured strain in each case for each gender. It turned out that the previously recommended spoon was actually the worst of the normal positions. Instead the correct is woman on back, man standing. While not critical, it is still an untested assumption, which made it into the books and used as patient recommendations.

      Cel phones have been tested and it turns out that the brain activity increases up to half an hour after using one. The effect of this is unknown, other than falling asleep is harder than if you didn't use the phone just before trying.

      Slashdot had the story not long ago about the brain communicating with itself using a magnetic field. Comments (for once) actually stated that this test result for once gave wifi allergy some credibility and such comments wasn't even voted as funny or trolling.

      Wifi allergy (or whatever we should call it) is problematic to test. For starters, there are billions on the line for the industry, if not more than that. This naturally results in a risk of bribery. There are also golddiggers, who naturally fails to show effects when tested. Whoever is behind the test can also have personal or political reasons for wanting a certain result.
      All this combined as well as lack of tests, which can be repeated by other labs with the same result makes me question how much we actually know about this issue. I wish and hope for wifi to be harmless, but I would prefer to get a trustworthy proof of that.

      And yeah you can be allergic to LED. It's called prone to seizures, which can be triggered by flashing lights. It can also trigger migraine, which (unlike what some people believe) isn't just a headache. In fact it is much worse and always attack the very same spot on the head, indicating a physical defect related to that area. Bright light or high frequency light can also trigger migraine. Unlike wifi allergy, migraine is a proven medical condition where doctors can test if a patient has an attack right now.

      Still some doctors not working with migraine have no problem stating that the condition doesn't exist. Reminds me of a GP doctor, who told me food allergy doesn't exist and he knew that better than the allergy department at the hospital, who issued the paper stating that I do have food allergy. This is yet another reason not to trust just a single doctor or a single test result unless you have reason to trust the doctor.

    7. Re:Wifi allergy by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      You can't be allergic to flashing lights, an allergy is an immune response. You could be sensitive to flashing lights, and maybe WiFi, but the latter certainly hasn't be shown in any testing I've seen. It seems like pedantry but if you're trying to engage with scientists and medical professionals and they scoff at the idea of allergies to certain things it would be because there isn't a mechanism for that phenomena to interact with the immune system. Things can be unintuitive: iodine is too small to cross link antibodies but people can be allergic. How? It binds to epitopes on your cells that are large enough to cross link antibodies and changes their conformation to something sensitive people's immune systems target as foreign.

    8. Re:Wifi allergy by myowntrueself · · Score: 1

      It's logical to presume that our universe did not create a demon with horns that tortures "bad" people for all of eternity at the whim of a bearded white man sitting on a throne atop a cloud, with his spirit on one side and his son on the other side. The universe is far greater than that, whether it was created by the word of God that gave birth to the universe, or an initial vibration that set off a massive expansion and standing waves that led to the formation of matter when things cooled down.

      Also the modern Christian 'devil' is just that; very modern and did not exist in Judaism nor even European paganism (eg Norse, Celt, Germanic, Greek nor Roman).

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    9. Re:Wifi allergy by JumperCable · · Score: 1

      If it was true, then it would be testable. To date, no person claiming WiFi allergies have been able to tell you when wifi is on or off.

  2. The triggering vibrations are everyday things by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    vibrating

  3. I know someone who has the allergy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Your mom. She gets all flush and blurry eyed when I vibrate her.

  4. Everyday things by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Funny

    The triggering vibrations are everyday things: ... jackhammering

    Really?

    1. Re:Everyday things by Venerable+Vegetable · · Score: 1

      It's part of my morning routine. Wake up, take a shower, eat a sandwich, do some jackhammering, go to work. Isn't his how everyone does it?

    2. Re:Everyday things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The triggering vibrations are everyday things: ... jackhammering

      Really?

      Sometimes vibrator just doesn't cut it.

    3. Re:Everyday things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I usually jackhammer-off before I shower.

  5. wtf is "towel drying" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    and why does it involve vibration... i just hang shit up and thermodynamics happens, how is everyone else drying there towels?

    1. Re:wtf is "towel drying" by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      I think it means using a towel to dry something. Such as their skin.

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    2. Re:wtf is "towel drying" by Rain2 · · Score: 1

      Thatsthejoke.jpg

    3. Re:wtf is "towel drying" by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Oh, I see. I just thought it was a really clueless AC. :^)

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  6. jackhammering? by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    Jackhammering is an every day thing? Maybe to some people I suppose.

    1. Re:jackhammering? by del_diablo · · Score: 1

      You don't have to live in that large of a city before you might encounter jackhammers 3-4 weeks a year, because some construction work is being done somewhere you pass by.
      Occasions include replacing pavement, redigging underground cables, replacing lamp posts, and more.

  7. Re:The democrats are the servants of the devil by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    So she's self-serving? I can believe that about any politician.

  8. Re:wife by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Maybe with you, but with the rest of us she never complains!

  9. Advancing knowledge by LunaticTippy · · Score: 1

    I love stuff like this. Finding a scientific explanation for something that sounds like baloney. All the bogus gluten and electricity allergies have made me very skeptical about things like this, but this is fascinating. It sort of rubs me wrong, it doesn't make sense to me that vibration could induce an allergic reaction, but I cannot deny evidence like this.

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    1. Re:Advancing knowledge by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      I have vibration allergy, you insensitive clod.

      I don't get hives, my response to the allergen is to have a palsy. This, of course, creates a positive feedback loop -- until I explode.

      Yes, much like Kenny, those bastards with jackhammers kill me every time. Good thing I'm a time lord.

  10. Re:Not an allergy by blue+trane · · Score: 1

    Say that when you have annoying physical symptoms associated with exposure to an allergen.

  11. Wind Turbine Illness? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Could this be behind "wind turbine illness" a lot of people now complain about?

  12. tl;dr by Hylandr · · Score: 1

    In short, they literally allergic to physical exertion.

    Reminds me of my Ex...

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  13. Re:Very interesting that this is a real thing. by Major+Blud · · Score: 1

    In most cases where type 1's develop the disease and are not born with it

    I'm Type 1 as well. Although we weren't "born with it", we were most certainly born with the genetic marker that made us susceptible to it (I'm sure you know this).

    I had this odd skin reaction that was like just random inflammation

    Maybe that odd skin reaction is what triggered the auto-immune response that attacked your islet cells? I know correlation-and-causation and all of that, but it makes you wonder about a lot of things that you could catch that would trigger that response (the Coxsackie virus has been implicated, but is somewhat inconclusive).

    Just remember, we're only 10 years away from cure, and have been for over 30 years now ;-)

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  14. Yes, an allergy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Jesus christ being sensitive to vibrations is not an allergy.

    But having a histamine response to vibration is the very definition of an allergy.

    The fuck is wrong with people.

    Your comment makes me wonder the same thing.

  15. Re:Not an allergy by arth1 · · Score: 1

    Jesus christ being sensitive to vibrations is not an allergy.

    I didn't even know he was sensitive.

    The fuck is wrong with people.

    Ok, thanks for the diagnosis. At least there are pills for that.

  16. That's dermatographic urticaria. by denzacar · · Score: 1

    I remember when I was about 12, I had this odd skin reaction that was like just random inflammation, and I could never figure out what caused it. It used to really freak people out.. I could sometimes just take my fingernail and scratch lightly on my arm and write words and about 20 to 30 minutes later the word would swell up and turn red and look like someone had carved a word on me with a knife and then 20 minutes after that it was gone.

    That's dermatographic urticaria. It's relatively common - about 5% of people have it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  17. Is this why mountain biking made my arms itch? by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 1

    It never bothered me much, frankly, but my arms would itch every time I would mountain bike going over washboarded paths. Usually I was hanging on too hard to the handlebars to really pay much attention to it.....

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  18. Oh, crap. Brace for impact by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    "You know what else vibrates? RADIO WAVES!!!"

  19. Not entirely ridiculous, but not an “allergy by Theovon · · Score: 1

    I have “touch urticaria.” Especially at night when I like in bed, the pressure against my skin causes histamine production. I’ve had this checked out, and while my histamine levels are high, my IgE levels are completely normal, so this is NOT an allergic reaction. Something else is putting excessive histamine into my system. A dietician suggested that it could be intestinal flora generating histamine, and a dietary change may help, so I’ve been working on that. But at this point, I have to take Allegra every night so I can get to sleep without itching and scratching for hours. (Fexodenadine is very weak, but it's the only antihistamine I can stand — all others zombify me the next day, including Claritin and Zyrtec.)

  20. Damnit by wkwilley2 · · Score: 1

    My hands swell and get itchy when I use a weedeater for longer than 30 minutes at a time.

    I know this isn't web MD, but I think i finally have an allergy.....shit.

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  21. I think I have this! by pisces22 · · Score: 1

    This makes me sound like I browse WebMD and then believe that I have every malady out there but I've been diagnosed with Exercise-Induced Anaphylaxis and Urticaria (http://www.aafp.org/afp/2001/1015/p1367.html). However, my doctor indicated that even vibrations can set it off. I once broke out in hives while just standing at a concert. The boom-boom-boom of the beats over the course of a couple of hours was, apparently, enough to bring out the hives. Shit sucks. I have to take Zyrtec to exercise, take a flight, go to a concert, or use my jackhammer.

    1. Re:I think I have this! by mcswell · · Score: 1

      I had exercise-induced urticaria, but it was the result of an actual food allergy. I would occasionally break out in hives after a long run, or when taking a hot shower after a run. I went to a dermatologist (or maybe it was an allergist, I forget now) and had the 40-pin skin test. It showed a pronounced allergy to beef and tomatoes. I stopped eating beef and tomatoes before a run (so long Philly cheese steaks...), and haven't had urticaria in over ten years, despite still running distances and taking hot showers.

      Disclaimer: I've never used a jackhammer.