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Sen. Blumenthal Demands Lifting of IT 'Gag' Order (computerworld.com)
dcblogs writes: U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) is asking the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate the layoff and replacement of IT workers by foreign workers at a state energy utility. But he is also demanding that the utility, Eversource Energy, drop a particularly restrictive non-disparagement clause that laid off employees had to sign to receive their severance. This clause bars discussion "that would tend to disparage or discredit" the utility. [emphasis added] He wants the employees, who had to train foreign replacements, to be able to state "honestly what happened to them."
It's a state-regulated energy company. Is the DoJ really necessary here? Can't the state introduce some regulations about how its energy companies operate, e.g. regarding outsourcing or gag agreements?
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Time for unions! and time for enforce the H1-B laws.
If this is a real story, and your management team actually said that, they're either really, really stupid, or they really think that you can't get a new job on short notice.
So, please fuck them over. Thanks.
And by the way, I'm a manager and I think that anyone who pulls that kind of bullshit needs to pay for it. The one thing that keeps good managers from being able to resist these bullshit tactics is that the asshole managers and execs who come up with these plans don't have to pay dearly for their errors as soon as possible, so pressure builds on everyone to copy these tactics to keep down their personnel budgets.
Get a new job ASAP and provide the customary two weeks notice and no more. If they really want you to train this guy... and you want some extra money... let them sign a contract with you for them to pay you a consideration for your training of Rajiv on your off hours. Or don't and tell them to fuck off.
Good luck.
The company forced them to train their replacements, who are non-citizens brought in to the do the same job cheaper because the utility is run by people who apparently feel it's fine to sell out their own countrymen to make a buck.
I don't know what's so mysterious about this. It is what it is. The only question is what are you going to do about it?
I have a really simple solution. Abolish corporate taxes in their current form and replace them with a head count tax. Every US citizen is, say, $1000/year. Every legal immigrant is $2500. Every foreign national abroad, including contract workers on outsourced work, gets a fee of $5,000. If at any time, more than 25% of your work is either performed by subsidiaries or outsourcing firms based overseas that has a sales or some other nexus into the US, you pay FICA on your global workforce including contracted employees.
So carrot and stick. A big, incredibly sweet looking carrot and a stick that has nails driven into it because we want to make the choice obvious.
Sadly, the industries that give to a politician are impacted the most by the committee(s) the Senator sits on.
It's the bit about H-1B visas that the tech companies were most rallying for. The idea is for companies to be able to attract more of the world's brightest minds in engineering and technology and allow these workers to stay in the U.S. (2013 Bill) The bill was written by a bipartisan group of senators called the "Gang of Eight," which included Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.). In the lead up to Senate debate on the bill, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg launched a political action group called FWD.us to focus on immigration reform. As a result, a deep roster of tech executives banded to together to push the bipartisan policy agenda and change how the U.S. approaches immigration.
The group vowed to work with members of Congress from both parties, the administration, and state and local officials. It has used both online and offline advocacy tools to build support for policy changes. FWD.us' list of heavy hitters includes Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman, Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt, Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer, Dropbox CEO Drew Houston, PayPal co-founder Max Levchin, and many more.
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I think you are refering to Approximations https://xkcd.com/1047/
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Requiring employees to sign a non-disparagement clause is proof that the leadership of Eversource Energy has no scruples.
If they wanted to indict themselves, they chose a particularly effective method.
The people in charge of this company should be replaced.
Thank you, Richard Blumenthal.
These agreements don't prevent testifying under oath. Just hold a hearing and subpoena them and they can speak freely without fear of triggering the agreements.
Once you've got your severance, can't you bitch about the company online, anonymously? Even if they find out, how are they going to get the money back?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Nervous? Not really, just updated my resume'
Finding a new job while you're employed is much easier than finding a new job while unemployed.
This is not an example of capitalism. In fact, we're not much of a capitalistic nation anymore. Not since government started placing artificial intensives and disincentives for various business activities, many of which are arbitrary, lack objectively provable benefits, and which inherently place one type of market, product or worker at an advantage over others.
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More likely the ex-employee signed a arbitration clause that will gives the company the upper hand to settle the disputes in their favor while avoiding the public courts with a civil lawsuit.
Once you've got your severance, can't you bitch about the company online, anonymously? Even if they find out, how are they going to get the money back?
They sue you and point to the non-disparage agreement you signed before leaving in court.
> If this is a real story, and your management team actually said that, they're either really, really stupid, or they really think that you can't get a new job on short notice.
I can verify that this happens. Awhile back my manager was replaced by an H1B manager, (true story!) in what might be described as a hostile takeover, and then new manager started replacing locals with H1B contractors, but more open about it -- stated in team meeting that he would concentrate on H1B contractors for all new hires for budgetary reasons -- only pulled from his country of origin, coincidentally. Shortly afterwards, we were all required to document our jobs in minute detail and start providing daily (!) status reports. I started interviewing immediately, but didn't get out in time, got laid off, but since I had started the process ahead of time, was only out of work for a couple weeks. I'd strongly suggest that OP do the same.
Someone else suggested giving incorrect information in the training -- I wouldn't go that far, hm, incomplete might be ok. But my experience, from an outsourcing that I happened to have survived (in a different role), is that, even if you make every good-faith effort to transfer complete knowledge on how to do the job, they'll find a way to screw themselves over. Because to a certain extent, you really do get what you pay for.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
It's about damn time.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
hardly a deterrent. Maybe $10,000 per foreign worker. Hey, if they're truly irreplaceable, that's not a big nut. Of course, if they're truly irreplaceable, by definition the American worker they're replacing can't train them to do the job.
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
Or stop playing the victim game, get a new job while still employed, give a two-week notice to old employer, and get a 30% pay raise from new employer.
Oh that's cute, he thinks that you'll always get paid more just for leaving an old job.
Did you not see the word "or" right after the part about wage amount?
In addition to what others have said, I would start keeping a detailed log. Be sure to note the day you were introduced to Rajiv and who specifically said "teach him everything you know".
It'll come in handy should you choose to file a grievance or sue, down the road.
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Once you've got your severance, can't you bitch about the company online, anonymously? Even if they find out, how are they going to get the money back?
They sue you and point to the non-disparage agreement you signed before leaving in court.
Seems to me the negative publicity generated by suing former employees would be worse than what a former employee (branded with the label "disgruntled") might say.
Oh that's cute, he thinks that you'll always get paid more just for leaving an old job.
As an I.T. support contractor for the last ten years, I got paid more money with every new assignment. In fact, I had to turn down a job because a former coworker still worked at the company, made the same amount of money as I did when I worked with him nine years before, and my starting pay rate was 80% higher than his. Those 2% raises just don't add up over time. The job that I did accept paid $8 per hour more and provided a full benefit package.
That's standing up for what's right, and there's not enough of that in this country, which is how all this crap gets started in the first place
You want to play the hero, get fired and have a pity party, knock yourself out. My obligation tis to put food on the table by bringing home the money. That's capitalism, baby.
This is not an example of capitalism. In fact, we're not much of a capitalistic nation anymore.
Because that's what happens to capitalism. As soon as someone gets enough capital, they want to keep and increase it. A system acknowledged to be built on greed means without any controls, the greediest wins. And there is no limit. Then there may be a revolt.
Capitalism has the seeds of success, but just like a formula one engine, it needs help to keep it from blowing itself to bits. Do some research on the boom and bust nature of pure Capitalism, and notice how especially in earlier times in the US, there were roughly 2 year cycles of boom and bust.
Any "ism" i it's pure form will destroy itself. Except for pragmatism. Pragmatism only deals with things that work.
Which makes it pretty rare these days, especially as those with great financial interests manage to play on idealism. There are people in the USA who believe that Capitalism is based on the Baksheesh paid to politicians to ensure that those who pay it remain in favor and wealth. So - it's complicated, but yeah, it isn't capitalism.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
You libertarians drive me nuts sometimes, and you have to be one to call this the 'victim game'. You know what? When companies do illegal things they need to be held to account for it. That's not playing the victim game.
That's because present day libertarians are merely Republicans who are selfish pricks, who can't put up with anyone telling them what to do
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
That's standing up for what's right, and there's not enough of that in this country, which is how all this crap gets started in the first place
You want to play the hero, get fired and have a pity party, knock yourself out. My obligation tis to put food on the table by bringing home the money. That's capitalism, baby.
I am glad to finally get hold of someone who has all of the answers, as well as has great clairvoyant powers.
What do you do, if the company replaces you and gives you the bum's rush escort by either security or the police? No notice, just 15 minutes to clear the desk and you are out on the street. Because its standard procedure these days.You must have a good resume to be hired in that 15 minutes.
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The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Look, I like capitalism as much as the next fella...however....
I find it really hard to believe that with all the universities in this country annually graduating hundreds of thousands (millions?) in disciplines ranging from engineering to mathematics, comp sci, physics, etc. that it is necessary to import tech labor. When you consider all the additional inefficiency introduced in the form of language difficulties and what I've often found to be poor training (every problem isn't one that can be solved by consultants by the pound excreting bad java code), I find it hard to believe that it's even worth the effort to game the system in the first place. Yet here we are with legions of billion dollar companies that exist solely to exploit loopholes in the US immigration system while taking advantage of citizen workers and taking fat chunks of income ostensibly paid to the poor saps that are being pimped out to line their pockets.
Frankly, I don't believe that a tech labor shortage exists. What exists is a market distortion that's perpetuated by a corrupt group of companies that line the pockets of politicians in order to siphon their share of guest worker salaries. Just say no.
They'll hide it all in a web of contractors, which is exactly what they're doing now. If all else fails they'll fall back on the 'gig' economy and just move the goal post.They'll win, you'll lose. Because you play the game a few yours a day on /. while they do it for a living.
It's like Wargames (if you're old enough to know what that is): The only way to win is not to play. What you really want is tariffs and protectionism, but after 50 years of the right wing (economically speaking) press vilifying them nobody can bring themselves to say it. You will note that China and India both rely heavily on tariffs. They've worked for hundreds of years at their intended purpose of purpose.
Eliminate the H1-B program. For the few real geniuses we want have a lengthy peer review process to prevent the diploma mill graduate loophole. Raise taxes on import goods made with slave labor. Redistribute the wealth in the form of socialized medicine, free education, infrastructure programs and basic income. Lather, rinse repeat. These things work. That's why the 1% is frightened of them; and it's why they want you to be frightened too.
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making all arbitration clauses binding. The US Supreme Court just ruled on it and said it was a perfectly valid because there's nothing in the US Constitution saying you can't sign away your rights. Blame our right wing, pro-corporate congress for all this...
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Someone else suggested giving incorrect information in the training -- I wouldn't go that far, hm, incomplete might be ok.
I've never yet worked anywhere big enough to have an official way to do things where at least some of them weren't at least sub-optimal if not downright wrong. Teach the new hire how to do everything "by the book," and let him find out the hard way, after you're gone, why that's not always a good idea.
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Negative publicity doesn't really affect a power company. What is anyone going to do, boycott them and live in the dark?
The article points out that as long as their paying what's been called the "prevailing wage" (just $60k/yr in Connecticut) it's all nice and legal. Not sure when congress snuck that in but assuming the article isn't lying we're all basically up shit creek in the IT world. Last I checked the only thing holding back the flood was a cap of 300k/yr visas, and every Prez candidate except Bernie and _maybe_ Trump wants to lift the cap.
/.ers aren't worried. Don't tell you you'll just polish your resume and move on. You can only run so far for so long. If nothing else you'll take a pay cut in your new job when all the other displaced tech workers apply for it...
What I want to know is why the hell more
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The article says that so long as they pay the prevailing wage ($60k/yr in Connecticut, which IIRC is a pricey place to live) they can now legally replace you. Not sure when that changed (probably shortly after the pro-Corporate Republicans took the Senate) but assuming the article isn't lying there's no abuse. It's all nice and legal.
.com boom and housing bubble hid the worst of it but it's starting to catch up on us. That's also why Trump & Bernie are doing so well in the polls. Too bad polls don't matter...
This is what we get for pushing 40 years of pro-corporate politics since Reagan. The
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I see what you're saying, which is that it's hopeless. They'll just buy everybody. The way I see it, Vote Left. Vote for the most left leaning, pro-worker candidate you can get. The right wing of America spent 40 years shifting us to the right. It didn't happen overnight, and undoing it won't happen overnight either. Vote Left every chance you get and you'll start to see a change. It's not like you've got anything to lose, right?
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Except for pragmatism. Pragmatism only deals with things that work.
That's still a problem, though, because you have to establish a standard of "what works". Pragmatically, the current system works wonderfully for those with money and power, but not nearly as well for the average citizen.
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Doesn't really matter. I got laid off recently, and I had 125 thousand bucks in liquid assets, as well as about 200k~ in stocks and shit (probably 100k after this last week...fucking crash).
More than enough to pay for my mortgage and other expenses for quite a while. And if things got really dire, my condo's in a high demand area, so even now I could flip it for over a million and make quite a profit after paying off my mortgage.
YET EVEN WITH ALL THAT, saying no to my severance package would have been pretty hard. Spitting in the face of about 20 thousand bucks (the sum that was agreed on) plus various other benefits, isn't easy.
Fortunately my previous employer was actually pretty great, downsized for good reasons (well, they made mistakes leading to the layoff, but they weren't replacing anyone laid off with cheaper workers or anything), so I can, in good faith, just say the truth and how i really feel, and still not be in conflict of anything in the severance contract.
Not everyone is so lucky.
What do you do, if the company replaces you and gives you the bum's rush escort by either security or the police? No notice, just 15 minutes to clear the desk and you are out on the street.
That personally has never happened to me. But I had a string of one-year contracts ended after nine months because I did my job too well.
You must have a good resume to be hired in that 15 minutes.
Hired in 15 minutes? No. Hired in less than 24 hours that the HR paperwork wasn't finalized yet? Yes. I do keep my resume updated and active on all the job search boards, and I typically get ~20 phone calls per day from recruiters. That's somewhat annoying considering that I now work for the government and my contract is fully funded for the next four years.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep that in mind.
That's because present day libertarians are merely Republicans who are selfish pricks, who can't put up with anyone telling them what to do
Eli the Computer Guy on YouTube has made the argument that I.T. workers need to be assholes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_YaNGzplbE
From what I read in the article so long as they pay his replacement $60k/yr it's legal...
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Except for pragmatism. Pragmatism only deals with things that work. That's still a problem, though, because you have to establish a standard of "what works". Pragmatically, the current system works wonderfully for those with money and power, but not nearly as well for the average citizen.
We can observe what happens in the world. I have observed that highly idealistic isms tend to fail, usually because of some fundamental mistakes in determining human nature, as well as ideology needing to become ever more "pure".
Communism does not allow for the inherent wish for humans to advance themselves.
Fundamentalist religion allows for no compromise, and it's need tor enemies and ever increasing purity eventually kills it.
Capitalism, which relies on the greed factor, if unchecked means that once enough capital is obtained, those who have attained it seek to destroy the free market. This should be self evident as the drive that produces the wealth will end up making the most greedy accumulating as much of the wealth as possible, and often by any means.
Socialism comes close, but only because it is the closest to pragmatism. Problem is, there are so many definitions of socialism these days, we have to evaaluate. on a case by case basis.
Libertarianism is another ism that is a little difficult at this point to evaluate, because what passes for modern libertarianism is just a quirky form of Republicanism. I'll note that the downfall of traditional Libertarianism is a miscalculation of human nature, assuming everyone is intelligent and law abiding. Perhaps they would stand a better chance if they didn't have to pander to the social conservative base of the party they choose to identify with. It's been sickening to watch Rand Paul try to pander to the religious right http://crooksandliars.com/2015..., Play George Bush the third by doing the aircraft carrier tough guy biz http://dailycaller.com/2015/03... - the only thing missing was the "Mission Accomplished banner! Then he forgot that there is no compromise, no room for anything that he is told that he has to believe, because if you do not do exactly that, this happens to you. http://teejaw.com/rand-paul-ju....
Actual Libertarianism is not compatible with the Republican party.
And if I'm tough on Paul, he deserves it. Libertarianism comes closest to pragmatism, as long as you remember that you can't run a pure ideology. So in my heretical pick and choose pragmatism, Capitalism with brakes to protect itself from itself, coupled with Libertarianism with it's willingness to respect the individual's rights and obligations (not what currently goes for Libertarianism, and progressive understanding that there are some things that should not be run for profit, and some that should. Banks and producing goods should always be run for profit - health care should not, makes for a pretty good version of pragmatism.
I also have this weird idea that a country becomes wealthy by having as many people have money as possible, not by concentrating it in the hands of a few. And this is not done by taking money from the wealthy at all, but by having as much of the populous enjoy the fruits of their labors by pecuniary renumeration as possible. People with money buy the stuff the job creators make. The present situation of making as many Americans as poor as possible, and having me the taxpayer make up for the shitty wages some industry wants to pay is a race to the bottom.
Pragmatism - its not just for breakfast any more.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Train him in everything I do... I'd ask what the budget it for training, how many years of graduate school to pay for, give him a list of subjects to learn, then wait for the person to get caught up. If one is in a position where a trained animal can do it then it's important to make sure you're an indispensible trained animal. Otherwise you'll be treated like a trained animal. Obtain incriminating evidence on the CEO and store it in escrow, shmooze with the COB, don't write down the passwords, and keep the resume updated just in case.
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Corporation: It was a business decision necessary to appease the stock holders.
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Corporation: Fair enough.
The two week notice is not strictly necessary.
What do you do, if the company replaces you and gives you the bum's rush escort by either security or the police? No notice, just 15 minutes to clear the desk and you are out on the street. Because its standard procedure these days.You must have a good resume to be hired in that 15 minutes.
Even this is more than you may get. Your boss (or HR) might intercept you coming back from lunch and point to your stuff (or most/some of it...) in a box on a cart and tell you to hit the bricks. I've seen that done.
Some places just cancel your badge, and you have to ask security why you can't get in. And then you find out. (This sounds even tougher but it actually fallible since your fellow co-workers will usually badge you in when you tell them you left yours on your desk.) I've seen this too.
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"by the book,"
Reason 5383 to not have 'the book.'
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Sue you into nothingness. Always blow the whistle anonymously if you don't want to be a martyr.
Utilities have lots of people doing PR to deflect negative publicity (*). And the general public will not pay attention to stuff like this anyway. They will sue until the former employee has nothing except a few followers sending consolation tweets.
(*) except for PG&E which seems to have the most incompetent PR ever. Their method of dealing with angry customers is to make them angry at something else (like asking to reduce the very light fine they were given for accidentally killing their customers)
Freedom isn't free. When you take your $70K/year out of college and blow it on a nice car, a party lifestyle, and expensive booze, you should not be surprised to find yourselves in shackles eventually.
Or have children and support a family, like normal people do. Right, nobody ever has a kid with leukemia that runs up huge bills and keeps you tied down just trying to keep her alive as long as you can. Financial disaster strikes nobody ever, its all just a big fucking party.
Asshole.
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teach him everything you do.
Pretty much update my resume and line up interviews. Got that, Rajiv?
Have gnu, will travel.
I try to avoid burning any bridges on the way out. Silicon Valley, in particular, is a very small community. You never know who you will work with again or be your future boss.
Your boss (or HR) might intercept you coming back from lunch and point to your stuff (or most/some of it...) in a box on a cart and tell you to hit the bricks.
I worked at a video game company in Silicon Valley before the dot com bust that transferred a software tester to a development studio in Texas, shut down the studio a month later, and told the guy to hitchhike home if he wanted to come back to California. We took up a collection to get him a Greyhound bus ticket.
They don't care if you can get a new job on short notice. They're planning to lay you off anyways.
From what I have been able to piece together, many Indian people's first language is an Indian English dialect, which is more different from the US/UK/Aus dialects than they are from each other. It can make for some "interesting but stupid" exchanges. What's worse, they are worse than the American stereotype of expecting non-Indian speakers to be able to follow their "crisp" Indian English dialect. They've even got a peculiar notion about self-promotion. What any other person would call self-promotion, they would say is not unless it fits into a strict set of circumstances I'm not particularly clear on.
True, but if you're getting the shaft on the way out do you really want to work the people that did that again?
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> Actual Libertarianism is not compatible with the Republican party.
I knew there was a reason I like you. It's funny. You can fit almost any political ideology into Libertarianism *except* for the Randian and the modern US Republican. But, somehow, they managed to do it. Neither one of those two groups is the least bit interested in liberty, not even close. (Though they'll scream and yell about being supporters of freedom, while not actually understanding what the word means.)
The other day, I wrote a piece (a long novella - surprise!) to David T. on this site. I can dig it out if you're interested in figuring out ways to polish it up. I'm one of those strange people who's actually willing to evaluate their position and change it as new information is gathered. So, insight is always a good thing. (But, a lot of work.) It was long because it was trying to articulate what it was that makes a Libertarian. That's not exactly easy as there are some pretty basic things to cover that lots of people don't seem to have spent much time thinking about.
However, that's the most intelligent thing that I've read on Slashdot all day. Oddly, in a politics article...
But you're not only correct, you're completely correct. I'm really not sure who had the bright idea of trying to shoehorn the most inappropriate political ideologies into Libertarianism. Somehow, they've not only managed to do so but they've managed to make it stick. At one time, I was pretty well considered to be on the "loony left" (even by the Democrats) by virtue of my party affiliation. That really wasn't all that many years ago. Today, someone finds out that I'm a Libertarian and they automatically assume that I'm some sort of ultraconservative fan of corporatism who wants to make people adhere to a bunch of religious beliefs. Err... That's so far wrong that it's about as far from correct as possible.
I've been trying to clear up the misconception for years. Ah well...
Many of the people who self-identify as Libertarians are actually just Republicans with a little bit of shame and don't actually know where they belong. I'd suggest they try to make the Tea Party sane. But, it's not like we can stop them from claiming to hold the affiliation and thus representing the party and ideology. We're a bit pragmatic and not really about to institute a "purity test" or take away the microphone.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Or you can just take your severance...and I don't know...FIND ANOTHER JOB!?!
Pi already has a well known approximation - 22/7 (1 in 800).
Never mind - Just found out 355/113 is also a well known approximation.
I swear, the first presidential candidate to jump on this issue, publicize the hell out of it, and then propose meaningful legislation and/or tax policy designed to discourage it will win the friggin' 2016 election. I'm just afraid one of the dimwit Republican will discover this secret first.
Bernie Sanders, isn't this right up your alley? Why aren't you talking about this more?
I hate to break it to you conservatives & libertarians, free markets are NOT solving this problem. This is one area where government needs to step in.
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Post as AC, both you and all others who have experienced this, company names. I want to avoid companies that do that.
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This is yet another reason I want to get out of the business.
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Another way to do it is to
1) write up the documentation
2) run him through it once on a simple example
3) give him a complex task
4) when he screws up be sure everyone knows about it.
5) If you are confronted just say "I thought you hired a qualified person".
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Blame corporate lobbyists, they're the ones who write the legislation. Google ALEC sometime.
These are not migrants. Migrants come here, get jobs here, live here, rent homes here, buy goods here, pay taxes here. When they leave here, the job stays here for someone else to take.
In this case, however, the not-migrants are coming here only long enough to be trained to do the job. They are then returning to their home land, taking the job with them. Any benefit to the American economy is either transient (i.e. during their training) or restricted to the decision makers in the company carrying it out. In net, it is a loss to the American economy.
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Very true. When you're unemployed, you're tainted goods. This view from employers was prevalent even during the height of the most recent recession .
Sometimes you don't have a choice in who you work with. The best course of action is to remain professional at all times.
this is also the guy that spent a couple of years unemployed and filed for bankruptcy because he went so long w/out a job
I'm the guy who spent two years being unemployed because recruiters and hiring managers looked at my resume, saw three-plus years of help desk experience in the last three positions, made the conclusion that I wanted to continue working in help desk, and, "Oh, sorry, we're not hiring for help desk positions," never mind that wasn't the job I applied for. This was during the Great Recession when there were seven job applicants for every job opening. Yes, I did file for chapter seven bankruptcy after exhausting my savings. On the day my bankruptcy got finalized in 2011, I got a new job and then spent the next two years working multiple jobs for seven days a week. When I got my government job, the two-hour investigative interview lasted four hours because the government thinks it is suspicious for someone to work more than one job and I had to list all contract assignments that I've worked since being unemployed.
When they leave here, the job stays here for someone else to take.
The Wall Street Journal had an article on how the illegal migrants disappeared after Arizona passed tough laws. Only 10% of the job openings were filled by American citizens or legal migrants. The remaining job openings went unfulfilled due to the labor shortage.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-thorny-economics-of-illegal-immigration-1454984443
We should not allow any action which impedes any individual from telling the truth, far and wide. It is important that the public can see for itself, the morals and ethics of any company allowed to have a business license.
When you're unemployed, you're tainted goods.
Unless, of course, an employer need bodies to fill positions to get the job done. I was out of work for two years (2009-2010), where recruiters told me I was unemployable for anything and hiring managers told me I was overqualified for minimum wage jobs. That changed in 2011 when recruiters and employers couldn't find enough people to fill their open positions. At that point, they became less picky and started hiring again.
I know. I know! But I can't. If it's traced back it would be bad for me.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Oh, and the union lobbyists are innocent? The ones that make donations to campaigns, and pressure lawmakers into adding pork to bills to give jobs to their union members? That doesnt happen?
I agree that the systems is corrupted by corporations. But your argument is that unions balance the scales by participating equally in the corruption.
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
So the jobs are still open, just as I said. The job is here. Someone who is willing to accept the going rate can take that job.
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It is time for them to burn down the managers houses.