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Judge Tells Apple To Help FBI Access San Bernardino Shooters' iPhone (engadget.com)
An anonymous reader writes: After a couple shot 14 people in San Bernardino, CA before being killed themselves on December 2nd, the authorities recovered a locked iPhone. Since then, the FBI has complained it is unable to break the device's encryption, in a case that it has implied supports its desire for tech companies to make sure it can always have a way in. Today the Associated Press reports that a US magistrate judge has directed Apple to help the FBI find a way in. According to NBC News, the model in question is an iPhone 5c, but Apple has said that at least as of iOS 8 it does not have a way to bypass the passcode on a locked phone.
"Judge orders arsonist to unburn-down house"
Good luck with that.
Yours,
Flip Wilson
There's no word on exactly which model of iPhone was recovered
Huh? The article clearly states a model:
According to NBC News, the model in question is an iPhone 5c
then apple can render all the help they can but be still unable to provide the help needed?
I wouldn't be surprised if this was nothing more than a joint PR stunt to mislead people into assuming privacy on their cellphone so they wouldn't be afraid to use it for sensitive information. Government has nothing to win by disclosing they have a backdoor, neither does the cellphone manufacturer. Even thinking lo-fi decryption, how long must the passcode be before brute-forcing gets more inconvenient for the government than for the user?
The perp is dead. This is where they should stop investigating.
to revive the dead people.
Apple to setup a cloud system to try to brute force PBKDF2???
Once the phone bricks itself from the tampering, it won't be an issue.
In the USA, we like stuff watered down, like beer, television, and freedom.
Unlock code: 072 (Virgins)
All you gotta do is put the password here and it opens right up. What's that? You don't know the password? Neither do we.
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Is it contempt of court to refuse to try and do something that one already knows they cannot possibly do?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
http://i.imgur.com/KITvkT4l.jpg
I think you just missed the *point* of encryption.
iOS revels how many digits are in the passcode right? If it's a 4 digit passcode that's 10,000 combinations? Can you just try all combinations infrequently enough to not lock the phone? Or am I wrong or ignorant of something, just a thought
Are you dead because of niggerness? Didn't quite understand the rant
I don't understand why he keeps posting dead links.
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Maybe they should ask one of the 5,000,000 various reporters, journalists, and random people eating popsicles if they saw what looked like an iPhone passcode written down somewhere in their house while it was being ransacked live on television a day or two after the attack.
Involuntary servitude is outlawed in the Constitution. The judge has now misbehaved in violation of the Constitution, and should be impeached.
No problem. 0000. Nope. 0001. Nope. 0002. Nope...
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Dang - you'd think that there were no criminals nor terrorists before cell phones. Remember when phones didn't have memory? Besides tapping phone lines (which used to require warrants), what did law enforcement / FBI do to gather intel after such crimes? Absurd request.
But they do have an inflated sense of power and get all pissy when people don't do the impossible if they demand it.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Couldn't they just pull an image of the phone's memory(yes, that means tearing the phone apart), run that in an emulator and try 10 pin combinations, reimage, retry. ad infinitum until they get the phone unlocked? Add some parallelization and you're off to the races...
You can't order someone to do the impossible. For practical purposes, breaking the end to end encryption on an iphone is impossible. Who better than the people who developed the software to know this??
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If the OS was updated to IOS 9 then there's this fun hack...
Maybe Apple could try a web search to find other vulnerabilities.
Just a thought.
Sent from my ENIAC
That's 10,000 possibilities. It seems someone could put together a lego robot to try all 10,000. If they were forced to wait 60 minutes between attempts it would be 416 days at most.
"We did all we could"
Or apple could simply have implemented proper encryption in which they actually can't help. Given that the government is not their primary customer, I don't think they care that much about helping them. If anything, the government probably wants a phone that can't be hacked by Apple (or anyone with Apple's secrets) for themselves, even if they don't want others to have that.
push a forced s/w update to the phone with a special code build that has no delay and brick after 10 trys code.
Then let the FBI play at guessing the password all they want.
Seems like if Apple could get a memory image from the phone, then they could make a program to dump anything they want.
Unless there is something special about the h/w which makes the really hard.
Like maybe they have a special place in the asic to hold the keys and this place limits the tries and timeouts?
Is there anything published about how this security is implemented?
That only works if the key is stored on the device, and the text the user types is merely a password to authorize use of the key, which would be a damn silly implementation.
Actually isn't that how it works on a modern iPhone, the key to decrypt storage is only on-device? What makes it not silly is that to "erase" a phone prior to transfer to someone else all that needs to be done is that the on-device key is destroyed and replaced with a new key by which data on media will now be encrypted/decrypted.
To me the problem is not the inability to crack the information on the iPhone. But the fact these two got into the country with no red flags, no surveillance and not even a hint of what they were doing. This is very troubling and a definite warning that we simply cannot properly verify people entering the country from these areas of question. Europe is facing this ver sobering fact, that islamic extremists can come in forms we do not recognize as potential threats. The question is, will this ever go away?
The FBI is trying to find out whether Apple is telling the truth. If not, great, they have their data. If yes, they at least get Apple to reveal everything about their hardware, firmware and software to provide Big Brother with something to work on.
My question is, will we ever know whether is phone is cracked?
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
Bet the judge owns Alphabet stock
Just so that the debate here is a little more well-informed:
The government is not asking that Apple give out the user's password, or decrypt the phone, both of which they cannot just do (i.e. are incapable of performing). The request is that Apple produce a piece of iOS software or boot image (as I understand it), that would:
1) Disable the auto-erase feature
2) Allow the FBI to brute force submit password guesses to the phone, and
3) Disable or reduce the increasing-delay-between-guesses feature of the passcode lock.
I would be curious to know whether for this iPhone 5c (with iOS 9) this is even possible for Apple to do.
You can see why Apple wanted to get very far away from the business of being in a position to be asked constantly by law enforcement to help decrypt its phones, just for the sheer volume of requests that will be coming if they do....
Yeah, they are so rogue.
I find it amazing you buy that advertising game. So the company our President is happy to brag about like a son is really just an uncontrollable adolescent?
One thing that always seemed odd is the presidential pardon in the Apple vs Samsung case.... You know, that part where big bad American Apple picked a fight with Samsung, and then actually lost and had their IPhones ruled illegal.... Yeah after they lost the president just came out and pardoned the case. Anyone wonder what kind of underhanded deal Apple owed them for that? Perhaps allowing the gov to spy on all the Iphones?
source, http://www.zdnet.com/article/obamas-apple-patent-pardon-reflects-global-ip-hypocrisy/ [ZDNET]
What could be learned from that phone that could not be collected from all the other electronics the couple owned and used?
Without accessing that phone the govt could find who the couple have called and texted, subpena social media sites for their exchanges, and collect who knows how much information under an NSL from Internet Service Providers.
I find it difficult to believe that something so nefarious or so important exists on that phone and that phone alone that can't be gathered elsewhere through other fashions.
This feels like the govt trying to flex its muscle using a high profile case in order to persuade public opinion regarding encryption and back doors.
Remember folks: a backdoor for one is a backdoor for all. And who cares about a back door when you have an intelligence agency monitoring all the comings and goings of the front door.
"If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"
I am apple fan now.
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There was no pardon, pardons are for crimes. This was the one agency exercising its perogative to override another agency under the President's authority. The reason for the veto was that the patents in question were part of an industry standard and thus under FRAND terms. Samsung was violating those FRAND conditions in an effort to squeeze Apple.
Can't Apple just turn over the iCloud backups?
iCloud backups are also fully encrypted. Apple is the only business that 'gets' security it seems like.
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Expect this to become an issue that politicians focus on. They are already saying "there's got to be a way". This will give them more ammo. Just imagine: "they couldn't help us unlock that San Bernadino terrorist's data, so we need them to build in a way around this".
Honestly, Apple is kinda fucked either way, now that the FBI has asked in public. Either they unlock it and prove to everyone that their phones aren't secure, or they say they can't and thus look like they are refusing to help in the Fight Against Terrorism. Either way they look bad. This was a calculated move on the FBI's part, I think.
Yup, and brute force decrypting the icloud backups would be much much more difficult than brute forcing the likely 4 or 6 digit PIN code on the device.
The perpetrators are contained. Finding out why they did it has time and can be done slowly and the old-fashioned way. The only thing they are doing here is to push (again) stupidly for a thing that makes everybody much less safe: backdoors. They must not be allowed to make the current global computing infrastructure even less secure as it is today, just to cater to their laziness. These people are more of a threat than any criminal could ever be.
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If apple did it right, they cannot supply any of that with reasonable effort (or possibly at all).
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It will not. Even full fascism is not enough to screen people reliable in larger numbers. It can simply not be done. Trying to can cause an incredible amount of damage though, as the aftermath of 9/11 demonstrates very nicely.
The answer to crimes like these is resilience: Put them in context, see that they are not more tragic than if these people had been run over by cars (just as horrible, but accepted as an everyday risk), mourn them and move on. But do not panic and sacrifice a free society or give lying snake-oil vendors like the FBI or the NSA more power just because they claim they can do something. They cannot. But it is not required to do anything as these events are so exceptionally rare and society is not threatened by them at all.
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After reading Apple's iOS Security Guide white paper, it is doubtful that Apple can write any kind of software to load onto the device to permit any of those options. This is because once the device is locked, it will not install any updates to the operating system. The boot firmware is already installed and automatically runs when the device is turned on. Updating the operating system requires the device password. These functions are cryptographically secured. See the section "Keybags," subsection "Escrow Keybag" in the paper. The auto-erase and time delay features are enforced by the Secure Enclave in hardware, and cannot be circumvented.
why? guilt is not in question. It's just a precedent thing. fbi is overfunded and now they have something to do. Why don't they use these resources on future crimes unrealated? I'll tell you why. because it's easier and more fun to tinker with this. fuck the fbi, do something useful for us.
All three of those numbered items are hardware-enforced by the secure enclave chip. If they could be disabled in this way, the cryptosystem as a whole would be essentially worthless.
Actually, this might not be right – the 5c uses an Apple A6; the secure enclave was introduced with the A7.
Of course not. This isn't to bring anyone back to life, and most especially not to prevent anything like this from happening in the future.
It's all about setting a useful precedent that ensures companies can't just protect the privacy of their clients.
idk if it's been stated before, but the court order sounds more like "help us brute force the key" not "help us decrypt the data". I guess philosophically it's one in the same, but slightly technically different. Here's the exact text.
important functions: (1) it will bypass or disable the auto-erase function whether or not it has been enabled; (2) it will enable the FBI to submit passcodes to the SUBJECT DEVICE for testing electronically via the physical device port, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or other protocol available on the SUBJECT DEVICE and (3) it will ensure that when the FBI submits passcodes to the SUBJECT DEVICE, software running on the device will not purposefully introduce any additional delay between passcode attempts beyond what is incurred by Apple hardware. Apple's reasonable technical assistance may include, but is not limited to: providing the FBI with a signed iPhone Software file, recovery bundle, or other Software Image File ("SIF") that can be loaded onto the SUBJECT DEVICE. The SIF will load and run from Random Access Memory and will not modify the iOS on the actual phone, the user data partition or system partition on the device's flash memory. The SIF will be coded by Apple with a unique identifier of the phone so that the SIF would only load and execute on the SUBJECT DEVICE. The SIF will be loaded via Device Firmware Upgrade ("DFU") mode, recovery mode, or other applicable mode available to the FBI. Once active on the SUBJECT DEVICE, the SIF will accomplish the three functions specified in paragraph 2. The SIF will be loaded on the SUBJECT DEVICE at either a government facility, or alternatively, at an Apple facility; if the latter, Apple shall provide the government with remote access to the SUBJECT DEVICE through a computer allowing the government to conduct passcode recovery analysis. If Apple determines that it can achieve the three functions stated above in paragraph 2, as well as the functionality set forth in paragraph 3, using an alternate technological means from that recommended by the government, and the government concurs, Apple may comply with this Order in that way.
Subject posted as this classic troll would do it.
I've been critical of you with other posts, but props for stopping the APK spam. I noticed he hadn't been following around a few users the past couple of days. Good work!
Now if only the "Republicans want us to die" troll can be next out the door.
Maybe they shouldn't have shot him before they had the password?
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
In the UK a person has a legal obligation to hand over a password to encrypted data when asked nicely by the people with guns.
However, a block of random data is indistinguishable from an encrypted file. So when asked to "decode" a couple of MB of random numbers it should be reasonable to require the authorities to prove that there is actual content within - and that an unlock key exists. This may sound like a philosophical point, but unless the data in question has been encrypted, a person cannot be asked to provide the key.
politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
Instead of cracking code - why not search for the real one on security camera footage?
Assuming Apple (or carrier) can offer location data and the phone was in use for a few days, then there must be some security camera somewhere in the public which picked up the person entering his code? Looking at location data should give some indication where to check security cameras.
NO!
If he had it on icloud, Apple could turn it over. The icloud backups are encrypted BY APPLE.
Check page 4:
www.apple.com/privacy/docs/legal-process-guidelines-us.pdf
Here's some guidelines:
http://manhattanda.org/sites/d...
There's a part where the document sort of complains that users aren't required to back everything up to icloud, because they can just ask for anything in icloud at all and get it in plaintext immediately (as documented by the first link).
If you promise to encrypt "hunter2" your end with AES-256, is it encrypted? Sure, but it's also here on plaintext, in transit, and if asked, you could certainly retrieve it. Even though it's clearly my password that you can't see :P
If the iPhone 5c had Touch ID this wouldn't be a problem, they could just use the persons finger to unlock the device. This illustrates why Touch ID is a bad idea if you care about your privacy. Since we only have ten fingers and the auto erase doesn't activate until after 10 failed attempts, the only thing needed to get into a Touch ID phone is a court order. The Fifth Amendment protection against self incrimination only applies to the contents of your mind, it's established precedent that it doesn't apply to your body (i.g. blood, DNA, finger prints, etc.) or property.
Just so that the debate here is a little more well-informed:
The government is not asking that Apple give out the user's password, or decrypt the phone, both of which they cannot just do (i.e. are incapable of performing). The request is that Apple produce a piece of iOS software or boot image (as I understand it), that would:
1) Disable the auto-erase feature
2) Allow the FBI to brute force submit password guesses to the phone, and
3) Disable or reduce the increasing-delay-between-guesses feature of the passcode lock.
I would be curious to know whether for this iPhone 5c (with iOS 9) this is even possible for Apple to do.
You can see why Apple wanted to get very far away from the business of being in a position to be asked constantly by law enforcement to help decrypt its phones, just for the sheer volume of requests that will be coming if they do....
One per software release?
Once they have the image that does 1,2 and 3 of your points they don't need to ask Apple to do anything on an individual phone basis.
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Just use the fingerprints of the criminals. Or clone the phone and brute-force the pin-code.
Or use all the rest of the logging taking place to see who they communicated with and when, and ignore the little data on the phone. A phone is just a computer. The problem is, politicians don't realise this.
Are you telling me that the default behaviour of an iphone is to destroy the keys if someone punches in some random unlock shit 10 times?
Imma have some fun with this.
"Hey that's a nice phone, mind if I have a look?"
Russian lawmakers consider banning state officials from using foreign-made smartphones, such as iPhones, over spying concerns: https://www.rt.com/politics/ip...
The FBI tells Apple to decrypt but the attempt "fails". Apple sells more to non-friedly countries. US security agencies open the back doors they previously arranged with Apple, and savour the intel.
they set up a false flag operation and now an iphone is so safe operation,,, this movie is really boring
Gee... I wonder why.
It was just "a couple" who shot fourteen people, not MUSLIMS, of course...
Yeah, and they already have:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/apple-fights-order-unlock-san-bernardino-shooters-iphone-n519881
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To me the problem is not the inability to crack the information on the iPhone. But the fact these two got into the country with no red flags, no surveillance and not even a hint of what they were doing.
What do you mean - "got in"? Unlike Ted Cruz, the guy was actually Born in the USA.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Just so that the debate here is a little more well-informed: The government is not asking that Apple give out the user's password, or decrypt the phone, both of which they cannot just do (i.e. are incapable of performing). The request is that Apple produce a piece of iOS software or boot image (as I understand it), that would: 1) Disable the auto-erase feature 2) Allow the FBI to brute force submit password guesses to the phone, and 3) Disable or reduce the increasing-delay-between-guesses feature of the passcode lock. I would be curious to know whether for this iPhone 5c (with iOS 9) this is even possible for Apple to do.
http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/10/why-cant-apple-decrypt-your-iphone.html:
Addendum: how did Apple's "old" backdoor work?
One wrinkle in this story is that allegedly Apple has been helping law enforcement agencies unlock iPhones for a while. This is probably why so many folks are baffled by the new policy. If Apple could crack a phone last year, why can't they do it today?
But the most likely explanation for this policy is probably the simplest one: Apple was never really 'cracking' anything. Rather, they simply had a custom boot image that allowed them to bypass the 'passcode lock' screen on a phone. This would be purely a UI hack and it wouldn't grant Apple access to any of the passcode-encrypted data on the device. However, since earlier versions of iOS didn't encrypt all of the phone's interesting data using the passcode, the unencrypted data would be accessible upon boot.
No way to be sure this is the case, but it seems like the most likely explanation.
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
Scanning Electron Microscope. I was able to pull the top off some ICs (PALs) to look at the fuses
that were blown, because I was curious. The guys also said if you RAN the chip the different
voltages of the traces could be discerned. The SEM even had a sealed input plug with lots of
connectors for just that purpose. Never tried it, but it seemed plausible. But they also
said you could glue an ant to a slide, put it in, pump it down, and image the sucker before he died,
so I don't know how much they were pulling my leg.
So it might be possible to pull the security chip, extract it from the housing, fire it up, and somehow
read out the bits.
when they use your products to help commit mass murder and the FBI is trying to investigate? There are undoubtedly accomplices of these mutants at large. Information in the phone will help reveal the perps support network. Why does Apple want to keep them hidden? Don't the victim's families deserve better?
Who cares about the pass code?
The NSA has the contents of all the text messages and phone calls.
This is what they are trying to hide. They already have the information.
Although I don't use any smartphone, this is one of the reasons why I advocate iPhone over the spyware-ridden android/windows os - if people MUST have a smartphone.
Apple appears to be the only major company fighting the real terrorists in the government, rather than collaborating and selling their customers' private data to them (unlike Google / Microsoft).
If it wasn't for encryption and companies like Apple / Lavabit / ProtonMail creating products to ensure customers' privacy, we wouldn't have people like Snowden / Assange / Glenn Greenwald / reporters etc, who are able to reveal the terrorist and war-driven / blood-thirsty nature of our western rulers and the crimes against humanity that they constantly commit around the world.
It's funny also the fact that when the UN and America bombs and destroys several hospitals/schools, it's perfectly fine, "because terrorists were hiding there"!
But if (supposedly) Russia/any-other-country does so, it's crimes against humanity!
What utter hypocrisy!
Oh and by the way, America/Britain has butchered hundreds-of-thousands of civilians in countries like Afghanistan/Iraq, and you won't come across a single family in Iraq who's family member hasn't been blown-up to bits by the American terrorist government.
All they need to do is use one of those password cracker devices: http://thumbs.randomenthusiasm...
Great!
Cook's refusal and false claim of the FBI wanting Apple to install a backdoor places Cook in jeopardy of being named an accomplice to the terror act and murders. He can be arrested, arraigned and locked in the "slammer" to await trial.
On conviction, Cook will face the Death Penalty for his aiding and abetting the murders.
Best of all, Cook can be disposed from Apple, leaving Apple to "Clean House" of the "others" within.
Great day for Apple, i.e. the other employees and stock holders.
Ha ha
is Lisa's birthday, right? Everyone at apple should know that one.
-- these are only opinions and they might not be mine.
We'll start at the beginning with the low-hanging fruit, and build from there.
From Apple this translates as follows: "we didn't get what we wanted prowling in the dark corridors".
Assume the Tor position! All your child porn R not belong to us!
Translation: Shit happens. Because human nature. [long sigh]
Where for the love of God is the adamant denial that they can actually build such a thing for the device in question? If the only barrier to accessing this device's data is a long night of hammering out source code, then I think this backdoor already exists, like a door that opens onto the back side of the second floor which is sealed from active use because no exterior stairwell has so far been erected.
"But we'd have to drain the moat and relocate the alligators to set the foundation! It would take weeks." Doesn't matter. If that's your last and most severe impediment, the door in my opinion already exists.
Others would argue that the mere possibility of providing a backdoor after the fact calls the competence and unbending will of your organization into a harsh light.
Pfffffft. What reasonably people find acceptable concerning their physical security in practice seems to have almost no bearing on how people behave with respect to their digital assets. Perhaps eventually as a society—in another generation or two—we'll get there.
Here's one simple distinction. Criminals who break into your house can be shot with a gun. Things you can shoot with a gun go to a different (more vivid) mental lobe in the human brain. Cyberfilth is almost impossible to shoot with a gun. Bleach might be a better option, but you're going to need to bring Dow Chemical Company onside with your plan, just for starters.
William Gibson: Reasonable behaviour is already here — it's just not very evenly distributed.
To avoid flattery, it's probably best to frame this sentiment as "no reasonable person's future progeny would find that acceptable", because I've seen the "reasonable" people now living and breathing among us, and let me tell you, it isn't pretty.
Rhetorically, Apple is in a bit of a rush here to close this one gap sooner rather than later, out of thousands of similar gaps.
You see "irony" here? Wow. Just wow.
News flash for Tom Cook. The "same people" who authored the American constitution granting powers to the American state also engineered its limitations. It's a human process sometimes called "striking a balance".
Furthermore, allow me to hazard a guess: the same people who toiled cea
San Bernardino Shooting Story Shot Full of Holes, Was this a False Flag Event?
WTF?
You can always spot shills when they use the company's stupid terminology.
Fuck off
The Judge has told us to help you get into the iPhone. When you turn it on, you need to guess the passcode. You have 10 attempts. Guess well. You're welcome in advance for the help.
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"Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" = JustAnotherOLDBitch who WENT SILENT & RAN from a simple question -> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...
LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Ah yes, those "POWERFUL FILTERS" by 'whipslash', lol that don't WORK, unlike MY WORK which does and YOU ARE SCARED SHITLESS OF IT WEBMASTER (who doesn't mind AlmostALLAdsBlocked since he's paid by those to NOT WORK RIGHT, like "whipslash's filters", lol, who let its ads thru)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )
See subject & this post of mine cfalcon (so much for "WALLIES" & THEIR INFERIOR 'work' vs. me)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
APK
P.S.=> Little wallys, lol... their "kind"? Makes me laugh (@ them most of all)... apk
See subject (LMAO) - it can't even work vainly & effetely TRYING to 'filter' my posts -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
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(That PUNY Web-Wally "whipslash"? He makes me laugh!)
APK
P.S.=> I'm LAUGHING @ YOU wally... apk
See subject & this post of mine in this very exchange that PROVES my subject-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* So much for "web-wallies" from "sourceforge"... lol!
APK
P.S.=> PUNY wallies... apk
See subject & this post:Cooked & burnt, EASILY, (it doesn't work) since he's a "webwally"-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* As only "yours truly" can manage it...
APK
P.S.=> Web-Wally from "SOURCEFORGE"? Bah... apk
See subject: ASK "WEB-WALLY FROM SOURCEFORGE" what it tasted like "EATING HIS WORDS" (lmao)-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* :)
(So much for "web-wallies" like "whipslash", lol... puny web-wally opened his MOUTH & inserted his FOOT!)
APK
P.S.=> Go on - ask BIGMOUTH that question... lol!
... apk
See subject & SO MUCH FOR HIS "script kiddie" filters http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* :)
(Ask "Web Wally WhipSlash" how it tastes "EATING HIS WORDS" from his BIG mouth now... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> He's a PUNY "Web-wally" from SourceForge - his work? DOESN'T WORK... but mine does (which scares the HELL OUT OF HIM because he's a greedy little webmaster profiting by YOU & all like you)... apk
Ask "Web Wally Whipslash" how it TASTES "eating his words" http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
* :)
(A puny little WEB-WALLY like Whipslash, the greedy little webmasters who is TERRIFIED of my ware, can't stop me...)
APK
P.S.=> He ought to have some MANNERS @ least & NOT TALK WITH HIS BIG MOUTH FULL as he "eats his words", lol... I made him EAT THEM, easily... apk
Do you like StarTrek TOS, Web-Wally? Specifically episode 26 "Assignment Earth" with "The Mysterious Mr. 7"??
See subject & that line from it - IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SHOW EVERYONE I CAN DO TO YOU easily just like Gary 7 temporal agent from that episode - they couldn't STOP HIM from beaming to earth or in my case, writing posts on /. - (& you CAN'T STOP ME, you effete bigmouth fool... lol!)
APK
P.S.=> Especially THIS -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
TELL US: How does it TASTE "eating your words", web-wally from sourceforge (home of malware)? Like YOUR FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH washed down with the BITTER taste of SELF-defeat?? LMAO @ U, web-wally - now go finish your meal (of YOUR words you must eat)... apk
Is it since I can show I made you EAT YOUR WORDS as I have ww/ web-wally whipslash & his puny script-> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
?
(Hahahahaha @ the LOT of you...)
APK
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/quash-apple-iphone-order-disable-security-protocols
So I have limited experience with iPhones. I use on for work to make calls and check email, but that's about it. When I locked myself out of it after being on vacation for a while, I was able to reset it via iTunes and it offered me the option to back up my data. I opted to just wipe the thong since I didn't care and needed to update IOS anyway so I have not done this, but can't the government just subpoena Apple to change the iTunes pasword and then do the backup to iTunes and reset the phone, change the lock code and then log in?
P.S. I bet the PIN is 1911.
I'm no pedo and you're the one "ReAcTiNg" to my making YOU dance to truth, webweasel!
APK
P.S.=> And you KNOW it - everyone else does... lol! apk
use his dead finger to open the phone if it has fingerprint biometrics...
Why not employ hackers, really smart people who can bypass the security and access the content without any problem? All this muscle really.. Brawl instead of brain hmmm...
This is not how I want our government to operate.
Governments must NOT have back doors. The threat of such power outweighs the benefit.
But could the locked data be duplicated several times in order to allow more tries? It might take well over a million duplications, and be quite wasteful in any normal situation...but when dealing with terrorists...
but can they be removed and installed on another device with the correct hardware and software?
nice comment, but it only highlights the elephant in the room- why the fuck doesn't the fbi just do it themselves? Are they really claiming to lack the skill? Sounds to me like they are being embarassingly (to all of us as our nations protectors) lazy.
I could not believe the amount of stupid this story generated here and in the rest of the media. Only 5 posts here referenced the definitive white paper that explains in gloriously gory detail what Apple did to secure the iPhone 5 and later models.
If Apple implemented this encryption system correctly, as described in that document, it cannot be broken*, even with a custom iOS image, because all key material and control over the internal parameters, preferences, and machine-state of the Secure Enclave are dependent on iOS tossing the correct user PIN/PASSPHRASE over the wall to that chip. Until that is done, the only way to decrypt the storage on that iPhone is to brute force AES-256.
IMO: The FBI is pursuing a Hail Mary and the judge is buying it hook line and sinker**, because they are even more ignorant that the FBI and the rest of of us here about how this security system works. If anything this will be used by the Gov. to attempt to stir Legislators to get backdoors mandated. As anyone with half a functioning braincell knows, mandating such is pure, undiluted, stupid! And I think the Gov. knows this. I think they simply don't give a shit.
*without a truly heroic effort from top shelf hackers, who make absolutely zero mistakes in their execution.
**I don't think this judge believes that Apple did what that White Paper claims they did. It will be interesting to see if Apple can prove that the system is implemented correctly, because I think that will be a key factor in how this all settles out, and what comes next.
Latest news is: within 24 hours of getting custody of the phone, a Government Technician, without asking, and having no mandate, no permission, to do so, CHANGED the password!!! That action just might have lost data that had not been uploaded to iCloud since 1-1/2 months BEFORE the massacre in the County "GUN FREE ZONE"!!! Government again inserts foot into mouth, then shoots foot, hits brain!
Why can't they just brute force the AES key using the birthday attack?