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Samsung Unveils Galaxy S7, Galaxy S7 Edge and Gear 360 VR Camera (hothardware.com)

MojoKid writes: Samsung held their annual Unpacked event at Mobile World Congress 2016, officially unveiling their next generation Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S7 Edge smartphones. The Galaxy S7 sports a 5.1-inch QHD Super AMOLED display with 2560x1440 resolution, while the Galaxy S7 Edge wields a larger 5.5-inch dual-edge screen also at 2560x1440. Among the new features are the company's always-on display technology. When you pull the Galaxy S7 or Galaxy S7 Edge out of your pocket or purse, you'll be able to peek at basic information like the time, calendar, or notifications without touching or waking the display. Both devices also feature "Dual Pixel" 12MP cameras. Using dual-photodiode technology, this is an alternative to phase-detection auto-focus that's supposed to work faster and better. Samsung also claims the rear shooters on the phones capture 95% more light through a wider f1.7 lens. Both are powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor, 4GB of RAM with 32GB of internal storage which is expandable via microSD, along with 802.11ac MU-MIMO Wi-Fi, BT 4.2, NFC support, fast wireless charging, and 3,000 mAh (Galaxy S7) or 3,600 mAh (Galaxy S7 Edge) batteries. Both are water-resistant and dust-resistant designs with IP68 certification that will withstand total submersion for 30 minutes. The company also announced a new Gear 360 VR video camera and a partnership with Facebook-Oculus. The Gear 360 sports dual fisheye lenses each with high resolution 15MP CMOS image sensors capable of capturing 360-degree video at 3840x1920 and 30-megapixel (7776x3888) still images. When the Gear 360 is synced to a compatible Galaxy phone, you can preview footage in real-time using the phone as a remote.

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  1. Samsung vs Nexus by WSOGMM · · Score: 1, Interesting
    I may be buying a smartphone soon. I'm considering getting the nexus 6p because you can root it without voiding the warranty, and because I'll be buying my phone independent of the network contract. Also, I'm most concerned about longevity/durability given the price of these smart phones.

    Any reason I should go for samsung instead?

    Or maybe cheapness trumps durability? so the nexus vs moto G?

    I'm looking for your personal opinion if you had any reason for choosing one phone over the other

    1. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by i_ate_god · · Score: 2

      I never had problems rooting non-carrier samsung phones.

      In fact, it was pretty much a necessity, because Samsung loads the phone up with so much crap, it's like buying a new laptop.

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    2. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by ganjadude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ive been a samsung fan for a few generations now however I personally am looking forwards to the LG G5. They are giving us a removable battery whereas samsung has decided we dont want it ( I blame tech journalists who wants smaller and smaller handsets) Same chip as this phone but more versatile IMO

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    3. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by danbob999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nexus is really about getting software support. You will have the latest Android version, while Samsung will be 6-12 months late (and will update only once). You also get monthly security updates.
      Nexus are also less bloated. Samsungs tend to ship with two alternatives for the same program. Samsung's version always suck more.

      But hardware-wise, the S7 is better than the 6P. The 5X might have the best value however, with recent price drop. Moto G is a good cheap alternative.

    4. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Dorianny · · Score: 1

      ive been a samsung fan for a few generations now however I personally am looking forwards to the LG G5. They are giving us a removable battery whereas samsung has decided we dont want it ( I blame tech journalists who wants smaller and smaller handsets) Same chip as this phone but more versatile IMO

      Removable batteries come with the trade-off of a bulkier device and/or reduced battery capacity. The G5 is slightly larger then the S7 (149.4 x 73.9 x 7.7mm vs 142.4 x 69.9 x 7.9mm) , slightly heavier (159g vs 152g) and has a battery that holds a slightly lower charge (2800mAh vs 3000mAh). Personally I prefer a sleeker device with a higher battery capacity to removable batteries. Fortunately unlike the IOS ecosystem, Android is a open platform and there is a plethora of devices out there to satisfy most anyones needs and budgets

    5. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by thaylin · · Score: 1

      I am with you, plus the whole Type C vs microUSB (2.0) Samsung still does not want to get rid of.

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    6. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Xamindar · · Score: 1

      If you want a phone you actually own and one that will last a long time, don't buy any recent Samsung. -While you may be able to root it, because of an extremely anti-ownership feature Samsung calls Knox, it will void your warranty and likely prevent some features of the phone from working.
      -Longevity is severely reduced by the non-removable battery. (in my personal experience, I still use a Note 2. I just replaced the battery on it and am back to a whole day of usage from the 45 minutes I was getting on the original battery.)
      -All Samsung devices use their AMOLED technology. While these screens look amazing, they have a very short life. My Note 2 has severe burn-in that you can easily see on any screen (except black). I will never buy an AMOLED device again. The high prices they are charging for their OLED TVs are laughable. Why pay more for something you will need to replace shortly down the line?

      Samsung designs their phones to only last 1-2 years at best. They plan for them to need replacing. They expect you to buy a new one every year along with all the custom accessories that only work with that phone - Gear 360 for example.

      In short, if you buy a new phone every year or less, then get a Samsung.
      If you like to actually own your device and have the freedom to root and replace short-life parts, get a phone such as the LG G5.

    7. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Soulskill · · Score: 2

      I was in the market for a new phone last year. I was interested in the Galaxy S6, and it ended up high on my list. The biggest drawbacks to the S6 (for me) were: smallish battery, no USB-C, price, and questionable optimization decisions. The biggest drawbacks for the 6P were: no wireless charging, Snapdragon 810, and weight. (There are other downsides shared by both, like lack of a removable battery and the lack of an SD card slot. But that's becoming pretty standard these days.)

      Battery life was a key feature for me, so I ended up choosing the Nexus 6P. I've been really happy with it. The 810 heat turned out not to be an issue. The overall battery life and speed with which it charges over USB-C makes me not mind the lack of wireless charging. I appreciate stock Android, though I think the hullabaloo over Samsung's TouchWiz is vastly overblown. It's not terrible, and hardly even noticeable if you download Nova launcher.

      If the S7 had been out, it would have been a much tougher choice. Still no USB-C, but a bigger battery, and they're bringing SD card slots back. If I'm reading this right, they actually made the phone thicker than its predecessor... which is amazing. I hope more manufacturers stop the thickness race.

      Ultimately, the 6P is a great phone, and the S7 looks like it'll be a great phone. You'll probably be happy with either. Although: if you haven't had a phone with a giant screen, it's worth borrowing a friend's and carrying it around for a while to see how well you like it — hard to get a good idea just from handling it in the store.

    8. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      my complaint is that the phones these days have gotten to skinny as it is, gimme an old candybar size thickness with a battery to match and id be happy.

      to me, its function over form, and when I go out hiking for a few days at a time, a removable battery is a necessity

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    9. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So many issues with Type C cords. microUSB everyone has extra cables laying around if they lose or break one. Also the look up charging speed on the Samsung vs charging speed of other type c devices. Samsung charges faster.

    10. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by thaylin · · Score: 1

      What problem with the cords? You mean the ones with aftermarket vendors? Just research the ones you buy..
      And I know the difference in speed. I would rather have 1 cable in each place I can charge allmy devices then carry 6 cables with me. Dont forget the cable will be workable with pretty much all devices.

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    11. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      They need to be skinnier in order to support the bigger screens. You can't have a 5.5" screen on something as thick as an old Nokia that fits will in a pocket. Function and form are interconnected so it's not really a matter of function over form, but a matter of alternative forms prohibiting certain functions. More people want a large screen device for media consumption, which means the form will tend towards thinner.

    12. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      if a note can have a removable battery, than anything with that screensize can

      as i said above, I blame these tech journalists (AKA bloggers) who seem to praise all things apple to push everyone in that dirrection

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    13. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Nunya666 · · Score: 0

      You can turn a Galaxy S5 into a thicker phone by replacing the stock battery with a 5600 mAh battery.

      The replacement battery is much thicker than the standard one, so it requires a new back cover for the phone. The result is a phone that is about twice as thick as the original, and twice as heavy. Since I always wear mine in a magnetic holster on my belt, I don't care about the extra weight.

      I also carry several external batteries in my laptop bag, but I rarely need them. (I needed them more with my older phones, and for my wife's phone.)
      http://www.amazon.com/Jackery-...
      http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Po...

    14. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by TwentyCharsIsNotEnou · · Score: 1

      Removable batteries come with the trade-off of a bulkier device and/or reduced battery capacity. The G5 is slightly larger then the S7 (149.4 x 73.9 x 7.7mm vs 142.4 x 69.9 x 7.9mm) , slightly heavier (159g vs 152g) and has a battery that holds a slightly lower charge (2800mAh vs 3000mAh). Personally I prefer a sleeker device with a higher battery capacity to removable batteries. Fortunately unlike the IOS ecosystem, Android is a open platform and there is a plethora of devices out there to satisfy most anyones needs and budgets

      Ok, 2mm thicker (though smaller in the other dimensions) I can almost buy, but 7g heavier - are you seriously saying this is important?

      And do you really care about the battery capacity in mAh? It's how long it lasts that matters - until there are relevant battery tests, you don't know if that 200mAh actually translates to something useful.

    15. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of pockets do you have? Those 'I can't put a piece of paper inside' that seem to come with trousers these days? Or are you talking about backside pockets where the most of morons tend to keep their phones?

    16. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      My solution to paper thin phones has been a phone case for some time. Protecting my phone from dropping it is an added bonus.

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    17. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and then you get a crappy-quality 3rd-party back cover, and you lose the water resistance that the S5 is famous for, because apparently the 3rd-party back cover makers are too incompetent to figure out how to replicate that feature.

    18. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      The problem with microUSB is that the charging speed is limited to less than 500mA with that. So you need a special "charge only" cable to actually charge at a higher speed (or a special Samsung-specific charger).

      You can't just take a generic microUSB cable, plug it into some generic charger, and get any decent charging speed on a Samsung phone. I found this out the hard way. The cable has to internally short the data pins for high-speed charging to be enabled. The charger could do it too, but chargers will not do it because that's not the way iPhones work, and the aftermarket charger makers only care about their devices working with iDevices.

    19. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by mikael · · Score: 1

      Maybe having thermal vision on a smartphone will be the next thing?

      http://www.anandtech.com/show/...

      This is designed for architectural consultants to measure heat loss of buildings, but it can also be used to watch cats playing in the dark :)
      I guess there might also be market for trying to find lost pets at night as well.

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    20. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      The G5 has a larger screen, that's mainly why the phone is larger.

    21. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Junta · · Score: 1

      And do you really care about the battery capacity in mAh? It's how long it lasts that matters - until there are relevant battery tests, you don't know if that 200mAh actually translates to something useful.

      While there are many more factors to a device than battery capacity to govern runtime, the batteries contribution is strictly governed by the mAh. The argument is that the mechanical engineering to enable a removable battery necessarily means a smaller battery (among other things). So the removable battery goal runs against the goal of long runtime for a given weight. It is reasonable enough.

      I personally would favor a middle ground. Generally it's either 'you can change out batteries without a tool, no problem' or 'you are going to have to have specialty tools and replacement adhesive, and probably going to break the thing anyway'. I don't need to change out batteries as a matter of course anymore (with the popularity of external battery devices), but after a device is 3-4 years old, battery capacity may diminish. Even then the issues are not as pronounced as they used to be, as charging/rundown logic and better battery chemistry has made them last a lot longer in service than they used to as well.

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    22. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      To piggyback on this, buy a USB voltmeter/ammeter. They are stupid cheap and will tell you exactly what is going on with your wires. I use this because i needed a way to find a right angle USB connector that wouldnt drop below 4.75 volts (still looking btw) when running a Raspberry Pi + touchscreen. http://www.amazon.com/DROK-Mul...

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    23. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by castionsosa · · Score: 1

      I personally am avoiding Samsung, and hoping for the HTC One M10 is as unlockable as the phones before it. My main issues are with Knox (permanently zapping a phone and rendering it forever unable to use services) only hurts legit owners of the device. I also despise the fact that it took a large bounty for someone to make a usable root for the S5, and the difficulty of a bootloader break on the latest models.

      If Samsung allowed for an unlockable bootloader like the Nexus line, didn't fry parts of the phone with Knox (so it could be relocked/resold), their phones are very good in quality. But it is going to be a HTC, LG, or a Nexus phone for me, because of this.

    24. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      imagine a beowulf cluster of these

    25. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

      I have had two Samsung phones, they are well made but are full of bloatware and firmware updates are rare to say the least. I now have a Nexus 6p and love the phone, no more bloat, easy root access and monthly not once every 8-12 months updates like my last Samsung handset.

    26. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by NormalVisual · · Score: 2

      While these screens look amazing, they have a very short life.

      They look amazing indoors. Outside in bright sunlight, they look like a dark piece of glass. I had a hell of a time taking photos at an air show a couple of years ago because even with the brightness on my S4 cranked up all the way, it still wasn't bright enough to be useful for the most part. Fortunately I haven't had any issues with burn-in like you described, so I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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    27. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google->Samsung->Carrier->You You

      I'd never again buy another Samsung smartphone. The support is lacking in every way. Had a defective Note 4 from day 1, regularly dropped gps and the network, proved it to TMobile, they told be to just to Verizon because they couldn't help me. Took to public shaming about a year later and finally got those dirtbags to replace it with a another used one, but only after public shaming on Twitter do they care.

    28. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      The Galaxy S5 is 142 x 72.5 x 8.1 mm and 145g with a 2800mAh battery, removable and waterproof.
      That's 10% bigger in volume, 5% lighter and 7% less battery life, very close. You can recover that battery capacity by changing it after 1 year (batteries degrade), you may keep the old one as a backup.

    29. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Personally:

      Any phone without a physical home button, is defective by design and I wouldn't pay a cent for it. I don't give a damn if it's cheaper, faster or whatever.
      I'd sooner use an iPhone 6S than a Nexus device.
      I think the new HTC M10 has a physical home button again (phew) - otherwise Samsung only for me, regardless of their issues (S7 is an improvement on the S6)

    30. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I'm looking for your personal opinion if you had any reason for choosing one phone over the other

      I prefer a tactile home button so I'm stuck with Samsung .

    31. Re: Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They still have off buttons ...

      #thruhiker

    32. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Removable battery isn't "all that". The increased thickness and mass of the device isn't worth it as it would significantly impact the design. There are enough other devices now like wireless charging, or the portable battery packs that can stretch your standby time to a week or two.

      And this comes from a Palm Pilot III owner where you could run for two to three weeks on a change of AAA batteries.

    33. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      That is incorrect. Since about 2007 the USB spec has allowed for higher charging current. Most modern chargers use that standard. The more expensive ones use dedicated ICs that can detect the type of device connected and go into iPhone mode when required.

      Most phones, including all Samsung ones, actually measure the available current. They start at 500mA and ramp up, watching for when the voltage starts to sag. That's the best way to do it - it handles chargers that can supply different amounts of current, and it handles cables that can carry different amounts of current.

      If you are having issues you might find it is your cables. The cheap ones tend to have enough resistance to cause voltage sag at relatively low currents.

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    34. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still have my HTC One (m8) and have been very pleased with HTC continuing to push out Android updates. From the rumor mill, it sounds like it will even get the 6.0 release soon.

    35. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I'm looking forward to comparing the cameras on these two. Both claim to have better low light performance than other devices.

      The LG G5 looks near perfect too. Wireless charging will probably be an option, like with previous models. SD card slot, removable battery, supposedly good camera...

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    36. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

      "Samsung designs their phones to only last 1-2 years at best."

      "I still use a Note 2"

      *sigh*

    37. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by virtual_mps · · Score: 1

      The 5x would be just about perfect except that it doesn't have an SD card and they artificially limited the internal memory options to segment their market. It's a shame. If 32GB is enough, I agree it's a great value.

    38. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      This post of yours is a perfect example of why Slashdot's moderation system sucks. I'd mod you up if I could. This could very well be why my S4 wasn't charging worth a crap on my new "high current" Scosche car charger (I was using some little generic 3ft cable), but when I got a new, expensive cable with 20awg conductors that advertises itself as a "charge only" cable, it worked great.

    39. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      16GB is enough for me (and is probably still the most popular option). I'd like 32GB more, but they are charging too much. Pictures can be deleted after they were uploaded to Google Photos (for free at full quality up to 16 megapixels). That was my main storage concern. 16GB is enough for a few GB of music and a few GB for applications.

    40. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by virtual_mps · · Score: 1

      My current phone fills up 16G just with apps (to the point I have to delete some to manage space). And I've got a 64G SD card for podcasts & pictures & maps & such. (I spend time in places with poor or metered connectivity, and having a local cache is extremely useful.) But everyone has their own needs, and if you don't need the space the 5x is a great choice. I'm mostly just annoyed when manufacturers 1) charge so much for memory, 2) use memory sizes as a way to artificially segment their product lines, and 3) don't offer SD or other removal expansion options.

    41. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      What kind of apps require 16GB? Sounds like poorly written / bloated apps.

    42. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I'm positive we have different use-cases, and that's okay. To put this into perspective I have a Windows phone (don't ask - it's actually awesome and there ARE apps available for it) and I have exactly one* app installed that did not come with my phone. I email, text, browse, make phone calls, and I just used the GPS a few hours ago when I went out to see how high this house is as compared to the ocean. What apps have you got installed? I can't think of a damned thing that I'd want to install that that's size - I didn't even want to install any.

      * My one application is a browser. It's the only app I found that looked interesting and added a benefit that I'd use.

      Also, I know I'm not typical. The missus says she's "got about a gig" of apps and "umpteen" pictures - but she moves those to a laptop and then she's now got storage on my NAS so there are archives of everything back in Maine. She uses an Android. She's actually quite young. She's "got about a gig." She's on the phone often. 16 GB of apps???

      Where's that apps guy? I'm guessing I'm some sort of Luddite. What am I missing?

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    43. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by virtual_mps · · Score: 1

      Well, when I said "just apps" I meant "apps and their associated data, everything except pictures, music, podcasts, etc." (which I keep on the SD). So on my current 16G system I lose upward of 6G to the OS. Then there's about 6.5G "used", 1.5G "cached" and a little under a gig "misc". That leaves about a gig free, and I just deleted 512M worth of samsung text to speech bloatware yesterday. So it's not completely full, but it's at the point where I'll occasionally have a large application update fail because of low disk space--and I'd rather just not ever deal with that. And all that is without much in the way of games or movies or other really big space hogs. It's possible to get by with less space but at some point I guess you'd kinda just be better off with a dumbphone if you don't want to do anything on the smartphone.

      My wife's 32G 5x has something like 26G available after the OS, so I'd assume a 16G 5x would also have about 10G after the OS. More than enough for her, but the kids these days burn through storage like I can't even fathom.

    44. Re:Samsung vs Nexus by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I think I am using (I'd have to go check) about 2 GB. I do cheat and use POP3 for my email so that I just delete stuff off the local cache and it doesn't actually get deleted from the server. I think I can increase my use if I download all the map data. My 2 GB is including the OS. The missus' numbers are after the OS.

      I'd use a dumb phone but I like browsing and emailing. Those are the only things I do. Oh, I've gone through the app store and looked at a bunch of them. There's just nothing there that inspires me to click the install link.

      As for the missus, err... She's pretty young, actually. She's like forty years my junior - and cute. She's just in it so that she can have my stuff when I die. But, she must be an oddity - she doesn't seem to use much data at all. Lots of texting... Lots and lots of texts. She's always texting someone - and lots of pics but those get shoveled off to the laptop pretty quickly.

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  2. Looks pretty, but... by InfiniteBlaze · · Score: 2, Informative

    if I can't change out the battery, I'll use my Note 4 until it dies, then switch to the new LG.

    1. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Freedom+Bug · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Choose 2:

      - waterproof
      - replaceable battery
      - not crazy thick

    2. Re:Looks pretty, but... by sremick · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      With the Galaxy S5 you didn't need to choose and got all 3. That's why I'm still on my S5.

      Having to "choose" among those things is a falsehood spread by the manufacturers so that they can justify their money-making anti-consumer design practices, begun by Apple and now virally perpetuated by others such as Samsung. These are talented companies quite capable of making thin, powerful phones with removable batteries AND MicroSD card slots. They just choose not to... MicroSD cards mean they can't force you to buy the larger base model where you pay 10X what the storage should cost, and replaceable batteries mean you're more-inclined to just buy a new phone in a year or 2 when the capacity of the battery drops significantly.

    3. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Samsung S5 has all 3. Grated that's 1-2 generation(s) old now, depending on how you count.

      I suppose it depends on your definition of crazy thick I guess, but I will always choose waterproof and replaceable battery on my previous phone (Samsung S3) I put in an double sized battery so obviously an extra thick phone doesn't bother me a bit.

    4. Re:Looks pretty, but... by ProzacPatient · · Score: 1

      and replaceable batteries mean you're more-inclined to just buy a new phone in a year or 2 when the capacity of the battery drops significantly.

      Furthermore people who claim a replaceable battery isn't necessary must be boring city dwellers without a sense of adventure. Having several removable batteries, and an emergency-only battery, for my S5 proved useful when hiking in Arizona and on a long bus trip through Utah in a bus without working 12v receptacles.

    5. Re:Looks pretty, but... by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Replaceable batteries are not necessary. There, I claimed it. Just get one of these.

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    6. Re:Looks pretty, but... by sremick · · Score: 1

      Spoken like someone who either doesn't use their phone much, or is too young to remember the benefits of proper removable batteries.

      I have some power packs like that. However trying to carry around and use your phone while tethered to one is not much better than being tethered to a wall plug. It's utterly impractical. Do you hold the battery pack, wire AND phone all in one hand while talking? Or do you now walk around like holding a Wii remote+nunchuk? Or maybe you get a 6' USB cord and stuff the battery pack onto your body somewhere? It's just ridiculous.

      I can swap the battery in my S5 with a fully-charged one in under 10 seconds then be back on my way using my phone just as before, no wires, no tethers, no hassle.

    7. Re:Looks pretty, but... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Furthermore people who claim a replaceable battery isn't necessary must be boring city dwellers without a sense of adventure.

      Or maybe we think outside the box and buy things things like:

      http://www.amazon.com/X-DRAGON...

      http://www.amazon.com/Nekteck-...

      Which work with multiple phones and even other devices, and tend also to be much more competitively priced than an OEM internal battery which only likely works with one particular model.

    8. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Pulzar · · Score: 1

      Why be limited by the manufacturer's battery, when there are so many options for external battery packs out there? You can get tiny ones, giant ones, and plug in not only your phone, but your friend's phone, your tablet, and any other device that charges through USB.

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    9. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Drethon · · Score: 1

      Yep, sticking to my Galaxy S5 until it doesn't run anymore. And now that Verizon decided to do away with phone subsidies without dropping the prices any, I'll switch to prepay.

    10. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Furthermore people who claim a replaceable battery isn't necessary must be boring city dwellers without a sense of adventure. Having several removable batteries, and an emergency-only battery, for my S5 proved useful when hiking in Arizona and on a long bus trip through Utah in a bus without working 12v receptacles.

      And a monster USB battery pack is out of the question???

    11. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can shut down your phone, remove the back of phone, swap batteries, replace the back of phone, boot your phone and it's up and running in 10 seconds?

      ya....about that.

      How do you use an external battery pack, battery pack in your pocket, phone in your hand (your post implies this part) it works with a 3' cable for me no problem

    12. Re:Looks pretty, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plenty of tiny USB batteries. And plenty of solar charging kits. Replaceable batteries are not necessary.

    13. Re:Looks pretty, but... by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Look at my slash ID. I'm probably older than you. My phone is in my pocket most of the time, and a single charge is just about enough to get me through the day (3 hours of music, maybe 30 minutes of gaming, 20 texts, 10 emails and 1 - 2 phone calls). But, if I'm snowboarding or something -- away from civilization and need extra power, I have the power bank in my backpack or jacket pocket with a long-enough USB cable to allow me to hold my phone and use it.

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    14. Re:Looks pretty, but... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Spoken like someone who either doesn't use their phone much, or is too young to remember the benefits of proper removable batteries.

      I have some power packs like that. However trying to carry around and use your phone while tethered to one is not much better than being tethered to a wall plug. It's utterly impractical. Do you hold the battery pack, wire AND phone all in one hand while talking? Or do you now walk around like holding a Wii remote+nunchuk? Or maybe you get a 6' USB cord and stuff the battery pack onto your body somewhere? It's just ridiculous.

      I can swap the battery in my S5 with a fully-charged one in under 10 seconds then be back on my way using my phone just as before, no wires, no tethers, no hassle.

      And I remember when chargers came with spare battery docks so they could charge your spare batteries AND the phone at once.

      Carrying extra batteries ... how do you charge them? Samsung makes a dock for one phone (the S5, I believe) so you can charge the spare battery without the phone, but otherwise...? Do you charge the phone, then remember to swap the battery afterwards? Or do you just hope you remember to swap the battery and end up with a dead battery you carry along thinking it's full?

      That's why we like external packs - because you can always charge them together with the phone. And unless your phone has an external docking station to charge extra batteries, it's a hassle to charge your phone, then remember 4 hours later to swap the batteries to charge the spare.

      And I had a phone where I had 2 spare batteries. Usually one was dead because I forgot to swap the batteries.

    15. Re:Looks pretty, but... by sremick · · Score: 1, Funny

      Look at my slash ID. I'm probably older than you.

      Maybe, maybe not. I'm 41.

      And: Colt .45 ;)

    16. Re:Looks pretty, but... by sremick · · Score: 1

      Carrying extra batteries ... how do you charge them? Samsung makes a dock for one phone (the S5, I believe) so you can charge the spare battery without the phone, but otherwise...? Do you charge the phone, then remember to swap the battery afterwards? Or do you just hope you remember to swap the battery and end up with a dead battery you carry along thinking it's full?

      I have some separate battery chargers that you pop the battery into separate from the phone. It's pretty painless. They're cheap enough that I keep one at home, one at work, and one for travel.

    17. Re:Looks pretty, but... by ichthus · · Score: 1
      I'll be 42 next month.

      And: Colt .45 ;)

      Can't go wrong there.

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    18. Re:Looks pretty, but... by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      ... and is 10x or more the size and weight of a replaceable battery?

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    19. Re:Looks pretty, but... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      ... and is 10x or more the size and weight of a replaceable battery?

      Compare apples to apples.

      That linked unit is 10,000 mah. And its not hard to find units the same size that holds 20,000 mah. So its several times the power as the replaceable batteries too.

      And the solar model isn't really comparable, because that can keep you going indefinitely assuming sunlight.

      Seriously, you are just looking for something to complain about.

    20. Re:Looks pretty, but... by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      You forget the efficiency. External batteries discharge to charge the internal battery. The efficiency of that process is below 100%. Therefore 10,000 mAh in the external battery might only give you half of that internally.

    21. Re:Looks pretty, but... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Buy a damn portable usb backup battery for $10 on Amazon (made by Amazon) and lay down that torch you are carrying. Hell Motorola makes a backup battery specifically for my phone (moto G). Removable battery is a nice thing to have, dont get me wrong, but its not that big of a problem either. I say this as someone who carried a XV6700 Winphone for 4 years with a backup battery the entire time. Its just not that important anymore when so many options are available now.

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    22. Re:Looks pretty, but... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      As someone who carried a WinMO phone for almost half a decade, I say you are full of it. Amazon makes slim batteries that when attached, simply feel like you have a backpack battery. I use it ALL the time. I carried backup batteries for over 1200 days straight, now i just leave a few usb backup batteries in key locations.

      I have a version of this http://ecx.images-amazon.com/i... for my Moto G, custom made by Motorola and the two work together perfectly. I can still use the phone no problem without it being a hassle or wires everywhere. You simply hold it in your hand normally, its jsut slightly thicker. My option also also omits the shutdown/startup cycle completely.

      You have no idea the options that are available now, open your eyes. There are reasons for wanting a removable battery, you havent put forward any.

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    23. Re:Looks pretty, but... by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      Compare apples to apples.

      That linked unit is 10,000 mah.

      You also have to consider the number of times that one spare battery is insufficient, but 4 or 5 recharges is sufficient. That's very rare for me, but YMMV.

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    24. Re:Looks pretty, but... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      You also have to consider the number of times that one spare battery is insufficient, but 4 or 5 recharges is sufficient. That's very rare for me, but YMMV.

      If you need 5 chargers (5 x ~3000mah) = 15,000 then buy a 20,000 mah pack and you are good. Or buy a 40,000 mah pack. Or go solar.

      I'm not really seeing the problem that you are claiming isn't solved.

    25. Re:Looks pretty, but... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      The Industry standard for these is 80 to 90% efficiency.

      Therefore 10,000 mAh in the external battery might only give you half of that internally.

      So 10,000 mAh gives ~8500mAh; which is 3 full charges of an S5. They make 20,000 mAh packs, and even beyond. Or buy 2. Or buy one with solar... or ...

    26. Re:Looks pretty, but... by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      Way to go, completely misunderstanding the point.

      My point is that having 10,000mAh is only an advantage if I need more charge than one spare battery provides. That never happens for me.

      Carrying 10x the weight is a disadvantage if I don't need more than one recharge.

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    27. Re:Looks pretty, but... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Way to go, completely misunderstanding the point.

      Yup. I did.

       

      Carrying 10x the weight is a disadvantage if I don't need more than one recharge.

      Gotcha.

      http://www.amazon.com/Crank-Po...

      At 2.2oz It actually weighs LESS than than the 2.9oz OEM S5 battery.

    28. Re:Looks pretty, but... by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      I am exactly of the same opinion. I don't replace my phones every two years (in fact, I am about to enter the 4th year with my SIII), because I don't need to and because, frankly, it's a bit inconvenient. So user-replaceable battery is mandatory for me.

      Luckily, we live in a world where LG G5 exists!

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    29. Re:Looks pretty, but... by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Choose 2:

      - waterproof

      Not important.

      - replaceable battery

      That's what matters.

      - not crazy thick

      I don't give a fuck.

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    30. Re:Looks pretty, but... by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      That's cool. I did not know that such devices exist.

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    31. Re:Looks pretty, but... by MightyDrunken · · Score: 1

      Undoing moderation due to laggy browser.

      Sticking with my S5 replaceable battery, removable storage, water resistant, IR.

  3. Hooray for ... by Fudge+Factor+3000 · · Score: 1

    A heat pipe in a smartphone! That must be one hot SOC!

    1. Re:Hooray for ... by macklin01 · · Score: 1

      A heat pipe in a smartphone! That must be one hot SOC!

      Although some of these SOCs reported heat problems, the heat pipe here might have as much to do with the water-resistant enclosure (can't vent air past a heatsink as readily in w watertight case ...)

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  4. Waterproof, micro SD by danbob999 · · Score: 1

    are nice additions from the S6. I also think it's a good idea to offer 2 screen size options.
    I still think Edge is a gimmick however. And they should have used USB-C with video out.

    1. Re:Waterproof, micro SD by sremick · · Score: 1

      The S5 was waterproof too, and had a removable battery AND the MicroSD slot.

    2. Re:Waterproof, micro SD by Solandri · · Score: 1

      The Edge as it's marketed is a gimmick, but it was developed to solve a real problem. The larger phones are very popular in Asia among women, who put a nice cover on them and carry them around in their purses (as opposed to men who want a smaller phone which fits in their pocket). The problem is, what happens when you get a text? You have to open your purse, take the phone out, flip open the cover, then read the text only to discover it was something that you could read/deal with later, close the cover, put the phone back in your purse, and close the purse. With an Edge, you hear the text chime, crack open your purse and peek at the text preview on the edge display, see it can wait, and close your purse again.

    3. Re:Waterproof, micro SD by danbob999 · · Score: 1

      They don't need a cover. But even if they do, then the whole point of a cover is to protect the screen. A good cover for the Edge would cover the whole screen, even the curved part.

  5. 'Motion' pictures by ip_freely_2000 · · Score: 1

    Anyone know if this camera has the 'motion' picture like the Apple 6S or the Microsoft 950? A second of video goes with the picture. ( btw, I own a 950. Do NOT buy one). I really like that feature.

  6. No privacy by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 0

    Among the new features are the company's always-on display technology. When you pull the Galaxy S7 or Galaxy S7 Edge out of your pocket or purse, you'll be able to peek at basic information like the time, calendar, or notifications without touching or waking the display.

    So anyone who can grab your phone will be able to know about your calendar appointments and notifications about personal information, possibly your contacts, messages, etc. Nothing to decrypt, no password needed, it's just right there.

    Sounds neat.

    Signed,
    the FBI.

    1. Re:No privacy by itsme1234 · · Score: 1

      Most Android users will have the contacts and calendar synced with their online google account; both for sure easily accessible to FBI (or at least EASIER) without touching your phone. The same goes for email and SMSes.

      However if you do decide the phone is leaking WAY too much information by announcing the last missed call and the next appointment you can chose to display just the number of notifications per app.

      If STILL is too much that somebody with physical access to your phone (that is including yourself!!!!) has access to see that you've got two missed calls and one SMS withou (gasp!) unlocking the phone then of course you have the option of showing just the clock (well, you can even hide the clock if THAT is too much information leaked).

    2. Re:No privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Odds are you can turn off that feature, or turn off what is displayed in that new mode. You know the same way you can turn off notifications being displayed before you unlock the phone.

      Or you know just jump to conclusions at the first moment any information about the new phone is released...ya probably safe do go ahead and do that

    3. Re:No privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know you can turn this off? Or have limited information?

    4. Re:No privacy by thaylin · · Score: 1

      until you change your password remotely.

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    5. Re:No privacy by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      (well, you can even hide the clock if THAT is too much information leaked).

      Comedy gold

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  7. IPv6 fixed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Let's hope Samsung has fixed their broken IPv6 implementation that drops all IPv6 packets when the screen is off.

    1. Re:IPv6 fixed? by Junta · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think they have a tricky reality they are fighting: overly aggressive RA commonly in IPv6 enabled (or accidentally on) environments.

      Hard to not get hit by battery drain from chatty RA but still work for other things. It's a big problem in battery driven devices and IPv6 as deployed commonly. Hopefully over time people will fix their networks, but phones and stuff will have to do better accounting and blame the network for such things (or warn that excessive activity has been detected and *then* disable IPv6 on screen off with the explanation while connected to a blacklisted network).

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    2. Re:IPv6 fixed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Networks sending RAs too often are badly configured, but according to that thread, Samsung's behavior sort of encouraged people to do exactly that. Sending RAs very often restores an expired IPv6 route quickly on a Samsung device when the screen is turned on after several hours of idle. Sending RAs rarely would leave IPv6 broken for several minutes on such devices since they don't send a RS when the screen is turned on.

      I have read that some other phones rate-limit RA packets in the wifi firmware instead of dropping all IPv6 packets in the wifi firmware. That solution would make much more sense than what Samsung has been doing. The networks that send RA packets too often should still be fixed as the RFC 7772 says. Your idea of having the phones warn about such networks sounds good to me.

  8. Re:Windows Phone? by ip_freely_2000 · · Score: 1

    I have a 950. Windows Phone is a disaster. Go one more generation with something else and then come back and take a look at WP if it's still around.

  9. NSA Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I won't use any type of "smart phone". I have a flip-phone with a removable battery. I check my messages once a day, then pull the battery out, and place the battery on an external charger. The phone, without battery, goes into a metal box, and it stays there until I check my messages again.

    1. Re:NSA Spying by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      So why are you in this thread, then?

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    2. Re:NSA Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what happens if you get a voice call ?

    3. Re:NSA Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So why are you in this thread, then?

      To help combat the stupid people asking the fucking obvious.

    4. Re:NSA Spying by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      I'm not impressed by smart phones but it has nothing to do with spying and more to do with I want a phone that can make good quality sounding calls you know like a phone.

      My wife got a 5.5 inch phone and I would tease her when it rang and say "It's the 80s calling they want their giant phone back". She basically uses it like a tablet most of the time getting calls is it's secondary use.

    5. Re:NSA Spying by drpimp · · Score: 1

      This guy is clearly in a basement (errr ahh bunker?) he doesn't want to talk to anyone anyhow.

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    6. Re:NSA Spying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, nobody is that important that I need to suspend whatever it is I'm doing to speak with a live person, on a phone.

      They can leave a message, and maybe I'll get back to them later when I feel like it, or maybe I won't.

      I don't understand why the average schmuck needs more communication than what is available on Air Force One.

    7. Re:NSA Spying by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Er... you are aware that Air Force One has phones on it right?

      http://www.extremetech.com/ext...

      (And even before the upgrade it had phones. )

    8. Re:NSA Spying by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Ah... elitism, got it.

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  10. Re:Windows Phone? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

    Windows phone is a bigger mess, and has no apps.

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  11. Won't be upgrading by ProzacPatient · · Score: 2

    Still doesn't have removable batteries for some reason. The new S7 has a 3,000 mAh non-removable battery but the old S5 has a 2,800 mAh removable battery you can swap out for a new one.

    1. Re:Won't be upgrading by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

      Some reason = decision on Samsung's part that the downsides of offering a removable battery (less efficient space usage, tougher to make waterproof) outweighed the upside (ability to swap batteries for whatever % of customers actually want to do that).

    2. Re:Won't be upgrading by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I gave the S6 then the Note5 a miss because of the missing SD slot, nonreplaceable battery, and missing antenna jack.

      I don't work on the road any more, so the aux antenna jack isn't an issue now.
      Battery life is an issue but I have a PowerAdd USB charger so it's an acceptable workaround.

      Storage was the key deal breaker for me. Since Samsung corrected their massive error (copying the iPhone's worst defect - no storage expansion) I'm going to be upgrading from my stone-age S4. :)

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    3. Re:Won't be upgrading by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Still doesn't have removable batteries for some reason. The new S7 has a 3,000 mAh non-removable battery but the old S5 has a 2,800 mAh removable battery you can swap out for a new one.

      My Galaxy S still lasts a day.
      My Galaxy S3 still lasts for close to 2.
      My Galaxy S5 is brand new so it doesn't really count.

      What I'm trying to say is that this is sooo not an issue even if you don't buy every single generation of phone. Lithium batteries just don't seem to fail as badly as they used to. And I say that as someone who originally bought an S3 BECAUSE it had a removable battery. Well there's a feature that remains unused for 4 years now.

    4. Re:Won't be upgrading by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's worth differentiating between "removable" and "replaceable". Many phones allow you to replace the battery at end of life without special tools or finding it glued in, but you wouldn't want to be doing it regularly.

      For me that's acceptable because a 3000mAh battery will go all day with heavy use, but I appreciate some people want to swap batteries. I have an external battery for those few times I need it.

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  12. Re:Windows Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's wrong! Windows Phone is the APPIEST app apping app, since it ONLY has worthless 16-color apps that modern app appers app!

    Apps!

  13. Yawn by maharvey · · Score: 2

    Wake me when they add a removable battery AND a microSD slot...

    1. Re:Yawn by thaylin · · Score: 1

      G5, plus Type C USB

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  14. 32 gigs of storage by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

    Be still my heart. What kind of pathetic offering is that on a flagship phone? Yeah, Android 6 adds the ability to use external storage as internal but it's very kludgy. It's better than it used to be but I'd rather have 128 gigs (or, at the very least, 64 gigs) of internal storage and not mess with that.

    Why are Android devices so far behind on storage?

    1. Re:32 gigs of storage by JoeyRox · · Score: 1

      Why offer more built-in storage if the vast number of users aren't asking for it? That only serves to add unnecessary cost to the manufacturing platform. The SD slot is a perfectly viable solution for those users needing more room.

    2. Re:32 gigs of storage by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      It's better than it used to be but I'd rather have 128 gigs (or, at the very least, 64 gigs) of internal storage and not mess with that.

      Why are Android devices so far behind on storage?

      You answered your own question. *You* being one person, the remaining Samsung market share (like me) don't care and would rather not pay for it. If you want more storage, buy an SD card.

    3. Re:32 gigs of storage by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 1

      Put your music, video and pictures on the SD card. Everything else goes on the internal storage.

  15. Samsung No Never Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not with bloatware and touchwizz. I am happy with MI. Bye Bye samsung. Never AGAIN!

  16. I'm in the replaceable category by publiclurker · · Score: 1

    and would like a somewhat thicker phone anyway. These things are slender enough now that I find it hard to keep a good grip on it. If you make them a little thicker you can, perhaps, make them a little more durable too. that way I can forgo the case and possibly end up with something a little thinner than what I have now.

  17. New Smart Phones? Meh... by skam240 · · Score: 2

    The wireless charging sounds nice...

    Honestly, I feel like smart phone companies have run out of reasons for me to upgrade. I'm on an S5 right now and if it broke I'd be more than happy to buy another one rather then pay top dollar for anything newer.

    Now if only some one would bring back smart phones with fold out physical keyboards that are built in rather then this touch screen garbage. I miss my old Motorola that had this feature and I'd be willing to pay quite a lot for a phone with it, even if I had to sacrafice or accept lesser features elsewhere in the phone's design.

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    1. Re:New Smart Phones? Meh... by vux984 · · Score: 1

      bluetooth keyboard cases seems to be where most people who want a physical keyboard go. some people like them some don't.

      It seems to be a decent compromise, some of the ultraportable laptops are doing this now too. My daughters Asus T100Chi for example. Or the surface pro.

    2. Re:New Smart Phones? Meh... by skam240 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they've been around for a good while now. Not the same

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    3. Re:New Smart Phones? Meh... by dylanf · · Score: 1

      Like the Blackberry Priv

  18. Wait... what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Apple releases a product, it gets posted to Slashdot, and there's no less than 10 posts asking why this "Slashvertisement" is on the main page, blah blah blah.

    Samsung releases a product, it gets posted to Slashdot, and not a single ask of the same question. Good to know there's an objective readership here.

  19. I already skipped them and got a G4 by Growlor · · Score: 1

    I also bought my wife a Note4 instead of a Note5 because of the lack of removeable battery and microSD. I don't usually root for major tech products to fail, but I sure do for all these recent "give them bling and remove functionality" phones.

  20. Some retailers still offer subsidies by Growlor · · Score: 1

    I checked at SAM's recently and (at least for some older phones - didn't look at the new ones) they were still offering subsidies for 2 year contracts.

    1. Re:Some retailers still offer subsidies by Drethon · · Score: 1

      I've talked with people with other phones and Verizon seems to the be one for near 100% reliability in my area. Other providers are kind of hit or miss. Plus the cost of prepay is almost low enough to cover what the subsidy would. Though I still wonder if an alternate provider would be worth the less reliable service.

  21. So... some important stuff... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Key tech not mentioned in TFS:

    o Replaceable / upgradable battery?
    o Memory card slot / bay?
    o Standard change connector (or better yet, wireless charging)?

    And finally, as a Note III owner, did they fix the damned over-sensitivity / under-rigidity at the edges so you can hold it without feeding unintended input to the touchscreen?

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    1. Re:So... some important stuff... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      From TFA:

      There's also 32GB of internal storage, now expandable via microSD (up to 200GB), along with 802.11ac MU-MIMI Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 4.2, and NFC support, fast wireless charging capability, a 3,000 mAh (Galaxy S7) or 3,600 mAh (Galaxy S7 Edge) battery that's not removable, and of course Android 6 Marshmallow. All of this comes wrapped in a water-resistant and dust-resistant design with IP68 certification that will withstand total submersion for 30 minutes.

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    2. Re:So... some important stuff... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      2 out of three, pretty good. And the battery... the wireless charging means I can put wireless chargers everywhere I put the thing down and not have to mess with it otherwise. It's not optimum, but it's still pretty spiffy. Guess I know what my next phone is going to be. :)

      Thank you!

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    3. Re:So... some important stuff... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      No prob!

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    4. Re:So... some important stuff... by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Verizon allowed preorder, contract allowed re-upping / new device as of today, so I went ahead and pulled the proverbial trigger. S7 (not the edge) should be here early next month. Really looking forward to it.

      Cost me $200 + 2 year contract, but as we have no other viable cell provider here... contract is the same as "I have a phone" $200 doesn't seem like a bad price for such a thing. Modern phones are amazing.

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    5. Re:So... some important stuff... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Congrats! Hope the new toy works out for you.

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  22. Put me on the list... by toonces33 · · Score: 2

    Of those that are disappointed in not having a removable/replaceable battery. I guess the main thing for me is that I keep phones a bit longer than most people, and it isn't uncommon for the battery life to slowly degrade. Ordering a replacement always fixes it (as long as you get a good quality battery, and not some after-market piece of crap).

    Not being able to replace the battery just seems like planned obsolescence. They want to force you down a path where your only good option is to just buy another phone.

    1. Re:Put me on the list... by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 1

      Not being able to replace the battery just seems like planned obsolescence. They want to force you down a path where your only good option is to just buy another phone.

      Well the way Mobile OS's are going that is the only good option.
      Older OS's stop being supported by App developers, and are too costly to maintain patches for, so become a liability. The best option from a performance/security/supportability point of view is to buy a device outright near the start of an OS release, keep it for 2+ years, then replace.

      Or if you prefer longevity, get a dumbphone.

  23. Very odd camera design by Thagg · · Score: 1

    One of the most essential parts of the 'immersive' experience of VR is 3D. Many VR cameras, like the Nokia OZO, do good 3D -- the cameras are spaced reasonably close to the distance between eyes, and the cameras are wide enough angle that you can calculate good 3D info from the multiple views. It's odd that Samsung is putting out just a 360-degree camera, not one that captures depth, when their display will clearly show 3D.

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    1. Re:Very odd camera design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spherical 3D is hard. I think companies are still trying to find the best way to do it. You mention the Ozo, which indeed *looks* good, but costs 60k, and they havent even released any sample footage!

    2. Re:Very odd camera design by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      Single point 360 cameras are still pretty expensive. Even basic models are in the $300-$400 range. Adding a second set of lenses would make it even larger and more expensive. And single point 360 is still really cool, I'm not sure how much going stereoscopic would add to the effect. I certainly wouldn't call it "essential."

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  24. No replaceable battery? No sale. by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

    I purchased almost every phone Samsung made up to the Note 3, which I still use today. I'm on my fourth replacement battery, which happens to be a Zero Lemon 10,000mAh.

    I'm simply too poor and unwilling to contribute to the e-waste problem to purchase a complex computing device without a user-replaceable battery. I simply cannot justify buying a new device every 18 months as the battery loses significant capacity.

    So, it appears my next phone will be the LG G5.

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  25. Next highly cost phone with the same problems... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not understand how they can release new version of the phone without fixing major issues in design like GPS sensor position glitching, overheating and high power consumption.