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Anonymous Hacks Donald Trump's Voicemail and Leaks the Messages (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson writes: In the run-up to the presidential election, few days go by when Donald Trump isn't hitting the headlines for something he's said or done. The bombastic billionaire looks set to become the Republican candidate, and his journey towards the White House is littered with offense and controversy, and back in December Anonymous declared war on him. The loose collective of hackers and activist made its declaration after Trump announced plans to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. One of the first strikes in Anonymous' war sees the group hacking the businessman's voicemail and leaking the messages. The messages appear to show that Trump had a surprisingly cosy relationship with the more left-leaning section of the media than one might imagine.
There is very little "left-leaning" media in the USofA. Most of it would be corporate-leaning.
And they love him because (exactly as he says) he brings in the ratings for them. He's always ready for a friendly interview.
The Donald got caught with a "hot mic" on a commercial break of the Morning Joe talk show on MSNBC, where Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski were VERY friendly with him. Hell, it almost like it seemed like they were giving him campaign advice during the chat.
I'd imagine that CNN loves him as well, simply for the ratings boost he's given to the Republican debates.
It's cool when it happens to non-politically approved persons... Right slashdot?
Morons.
It's long been traditional to point and laugh when someone who supports something against others gets upset when that thing happens to him.
Trump Won't Rule Out Warrantless Searches for Muslims in the US
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
NSA and all the other agencies are in the executive branch and work for obama. maybe you should shush.
That isn't a problem. The President is free to resign at any time, and the Vice President will then take over as Acting President. It's exactly what Nixon did.
Honestly, I'd be OK with Trump doing that, as long as his VP isn't one of the existing or former GOP candidates. It couldn't be any worse than any of the other current GOP candidates, or Hillary. Trump is likely doing all this for his big ego anyway, but still that's a lot better than the other GOP candidates and Hillary who are really working for special interests.
Don't listen to just me, several studies and reports have said what I'm about to say, including an Ivy league school. The US has become almost text book fascism as defined by Mussolini. Meaning, you can not separate regulators from Corporations because the regulators work for the corporations. Regulatory capture has occurred in every sector of the economy. It is really easy to see, but you have to at least glance at it.
Main stream media simply works for those same interests. Again, it's easy to see if you care to look. "Money" and "Ratings" are a byproduct of the control the establishment has over the people using media.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
There's some merit in that idea. I did propose a solution which would result in my voting for Trump. Put him as VP alongside Sanders - it's just crazy enough to work. It's not like Congress is going to let either one of them do anything meaningful. We might as well give us the best entertainment money can buy, or something like that.
I'm not big on conspiracy theories or things of that nature. I'm really not... However! (You knew that was coming, didn't you?) I know this is probably *not* the case but I have wondered if Trump's actually a spoiler that has gone horribly wrong - or fantastically correct. He's completely disrupted the GOP. I don't watch television or see any ads online but I understand he hasn't even been paying for ads. (That's particularly clever and we were sort of discussing that in a journal post last night/this morning.)
What if Trump's not meant to win but is just meant to take enough votes from the Republicans to make the ride a bit easier for the Democrats? He is good friends with Hillary, after all. I'm pretty sure that's a complete bastardization of the political process but I'd not put it past them. I'm also guessing that we'd not hear about it until well after the deed is done and can no longer be undone.
To be clear, I'm absolutely NOT suggesting that is the case. (Sadly, this is Slashdot and I'm compelled to clarify that.) It's not even an accusation. It's just more of a, "What if?" It's probably not illegal. I'm thinking that it might be adequate for impeachment but this is a Clinton we're talking about. They could even be banking on it not becoming obvious until well after the fact. It really wouldn't even require a lot of other people to be involved and they could easily do it with leaving little to no information behind.
Hell, one or both of them could be in a position where they have either plausible deniability or no actual knowledge to begin with. Heh, almost Manchurian in nature. At the very least, it could be fairly easy to get someone in Trump's position motivated to run and convinced he thought it all up himself. It might actually make an interesting novel or movie.
At any rate, I'd absolutely have no choice but to vote for a Sanders/Trump ticket. I might even vote a Trump/Sanders ticket. Why? It's not that I don't like you but that it would be the most amusing four years in my life, collectively speaking. I bet not a day goes by that I'm not given cause to laugh like hell.
In the words of the immortal Chink: Ha ha, ho ho, he he! (Should not be an obscure reference on Slashdot.)
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
The easiest way to get Americans to vote for someone the outside world does not like is to make it obvious they do not like them. Americans will hold their nose and elect Satan himself if a bunch of foreigners acted like we couldn't. The overwhelming vast majority of Americans agree on one thing, foreigners do not have the right to tell us what to do.
Keep it up and Trump will be president.
Trump is really in a conspiracy with Hillary so that he'll get the Republican nomination & then lose the election, ensuring Hillary's presidency
Who, unlike Trump, is sane and has actual policy positions and ethics he's demonstrated for 30 years.
I don't really like being in the position of defending Trump but when has he said he'd attack foreign people and countries? Specifically?
I checked Google and the only thing I'm seeing is where he said he'd have opened fire on the Paris terrorists. I guess, with some mental gymnastics, one could construe that into saying that he'd attack foreign people and countries? However, I'm pretty sure that even some of the French said that. Actually, I think they did.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I did propose a solution which would result in my voting for Trump. Put him as VP alongside Sanders - it's just crazy enough to work. It's not like Congress is going to let either one of them do anything meaningful. We might as well give us the best entertainment money can buy, or something like that.
A Trump/Sanders ticket would be hilarious; I've thought of that too. Even funnier would be if they both chose each other as running mates, and ran that way: Trump/Sanders vs Sanders/Trump.
However, I disagree about them doing anything meaningful. Even with an uncooperative Congress, the President does have a lot of power, and especially the power to say "no" and refuse action. If Congress wants to start a war in the middle east and the President says "no", that's the end of it: there's no military action without his approval. If Congress or other powers-that-be want to grab Snowden or Assange and torture them in Guantanamo, the President has the power to not do that, and even to pardon them. If Congress wants to pass TPP or SOPA/PIPA or whatever, the President has a lot of power to throw a wrench into the works there. If Congress wants the NSA to spy on all Americans, the President has the power to shut it down.
What if Trump's not meant to win but is just meant to take enough votes from the Republicans to make the ride a bit easier for the Democrats? He is good friends with Hillary, after all.
You're definitely not the first person to think of this. A LOT of people have suggested this for a while now. However, it seems that Sanders has thrown a wrench into that plan. A lot of Democrat voters despise Hillary and will vote for Trump instead of her (or just write Sanders in). According to polls, though, if Hillary dropped out (perhaps because she was in jail) and it became a race between Bernie and any GOP person including Trump, Bernie would win. He's the least unfavorable candidate according to polls; lots of people despise Trump (on both sides), and lots of people despise Hillary (on both sides). Almost no one despises Bernie; they can't even come up with any real dirt on him. They can say stupid stuff about "socialism", they can say his policies won't work, they can say completely idiotic things about 90% tax rates (betraying a complete lack of understanding of marginal rates and also his actual policies), they can complain about his age (even though he's only 5 years older than Trump and 6 older than Hillary who's had a lot of health problems), but no one really *despises* him like they do all the other candidates. The other GOP candidates aren't as unliked, but they're not liked either: everyone thinks Cruz is a liar and a religious nut, and that Rubio is a robot and in the pocket of the establishment.
Hello America!
I'm Italian, pizza spaghetti & poor english, so don't grammar nazi me, please.
I'll go straight to the point.
Thank you all for Donald Trump, I mean it: thank you from the bottom of my heart.
For two decades, wherever I went, everyone who was not italian that I met around the world asked me a question, and I felt silently ashamed facing that simple question: "Why Berlusconi?".
Everywhere.
Italian? Why Berlusconi?
Even in Argentina, in a small gas station in the middle of nothing in Patagonia, a place without Internet, without sat channels, without newspapers: "Italianos? Berlusconi! Las fiestas con las ninas!".
That was awful.
Now, with Donald Trump you will receive from us the Olympic Torch of political silliness, you will rewrite THAT question, you will set us free, at last. Worldwide.
God bless America.
Francesco Lanza, 28 feb 2016
Mastering the English language is fucking easy: all you have to do is to put an f* word in every fucking sentence.
Kasich obviously can't win the nomination outright via the primaries. 99.5% chance Rubio can't either. What they CAN do is stash enough delegates to deny Trump the majority he needs to become the automatic nominee. When Kasich and probably Rubio drop out after the first convention vote, their delegates become free to vote for anyone else. That'll be the agreed non-Trump nominee. That's why they are still getting big-money donations and other support - because by dividing up the delegates four ways, Trump can't get a strict majority and the convention will be free to choose someone other than Trump. That's also why Ben Carson SUSPENDED his campaign rather than ended it- suspending means he can still select a few anti-Trump delegates. Most if not all of the drop outs suspended for that reason, and also if they had campaign debt.
If they all dropped out and supported Cruz NOW, Cruz might win 48% to Trumps 52%. By offering four primary candidates, hopefully Trump will get less than 50%, then at the convention the anti-Trump delegates (the majority) will choose the nominee.
> Vice President will then take over as Acting President.
There was a big fight about that in 1841. John Tyler insisted that he was President, his political opponents insisted that he was merely Acting President. He refused to open the letters they sent him, addressed to Acting President. Tyler won the fight. He was President.
Later, the 25th Amendment removed all doubt. The 25th begins with these words:
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
It's sad, isn't it? I hate the " 'merica" movement that has taken root in the country.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
For two decades, wherever I went, everyone who was not italian that I met around the world asked me a question, and I felt silently ashamed facing that simple question: "Why Berlusconi?".
True story:
I was vacationing in Bulgaria in the early 'aughts, was chatting people up on the street and almost got mugged *twice* because I was American (and specifically because of Bush).
I went right back to the hotel and told my GF: "From now on, we are Canadian. If anyone asks, we're from Canada!"
Didn't have any problem after that.
Love Bulgaria, the people are nice, but don't tell them you're American...
and here's why. He's moving the country to the Left. Our country has gotten to the point where there's Far Right Wing, Really Far Right Wing and Ted Cruz. Assuming (as Bernie said) you realize words like "Socialism" and "Welfare" have meaning and aren't just things to be afraid of then this is a good thing.
Yes, Trump's a jerk. But he's also the only Candidate besides Bernie Sanders who thinks healthcare (not just "affordable" healthcare) is a right. Yes, he's said some racist things, but he's also said them out loud instead of dog whistling.
I'll take Trump over Rubio any day of the week. Rubio's the kind of guy who'd stab me in the gut, twist the knife and then smile; saying it's nothing personal, just business. If Trump's gonna stab me in the gut it's because he hates them. I can deal with Trumps Hate. Rubio's cold hearted unlimited greed? Not so much.
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According to polls, though, if Hillary dropped out (perhaps because she was in jail) and it became a race between Bernie and any GOP person including Trump, Bernie would win. He's the least unfavorable candidate according to polls; lots of people despise Trump (on both sides), and lots of people despise Hillary (on both sides). Almost no one despises Bernie; they can't even come up with any real dirt on him. They can say stupid stuff about "socialism", they can say his policies won't work, they can say completely idiotic things about 90% tax rates (betraying a complete lack of understanding of marginal rates and also his actual policies), they can complain about his age (even though he's only 5 years older than Trump and 6 older than Hillary who's had a lot of health problems), but no one really *despises* him like they do all the other candidates. The other GOP candidates aren't as unliked, but they're not liked either: everyone thinks Cruz is a liar and a religious nut, and that Rubio is a robot and in the pocket of the establishment.
Until the French revolution happens. The problem is that the poor get poorer (debt and ladder rungs get further apart) and rich get richer (rent seeking while not producing anything of value). You're painting the rich elite as some technocratic power with decent foresight, but they're far from it.
Their power is more or less emergent, this whole system is and at some point it implodes under the weight of the monetary tragedy of the commons - you get two piles of money - mountain of debt, mountain of assets/savings and the two mountains not interacting in economy at all. Everything grinds to a halt.
Soon after, food shortages, infrastructure breakdown, the poor do a peasant revolt and string of revolutions until society resets into more equal state - after a lot of bloodshed. Then, after a while, rinse repeat.
Perhaps the time of french revolution is closer than we think.
Yet you're paraphrasing. Do you have a link to the transcript of that comment? I should think you'd have actually quoted what he said. I mean, it's Trump. There's a gazillion things wrong with him. There are countless reasons that people have to not want him to be the president. Some of them are even good reasons. It should be easy to find that quote - and, again, Google's not finding anything using those terms.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Without an actual counter-argument you realize that it's more likely that your post will be modded "troll", right?
A rolling stone is worth two in the bush!
Her effort? Having your testicles removed and your penis mutilated does not make a man a woman.
Yeah, he won a decathlon before he went batshit crazy. Why should we celebrate mental illness?
But you have to admit, politically speaking, your country is a fucking laughing stock right now isn't it?
Ad hominem. Why won't you think of the children of the communist countries ? How many millions dead in the name of Bernies ideas? Oh, but sure, Scrooge, very compelling. Run along child, the cake is a lie.
Sanders' ideal are the Nordic countries. Care to expand on the millions of dead there?
But you have to admit, politically speaking, your country is a fucking laughing stock right now isn't it?
Tough call, actually. We just put over half the government into jail for criminal bribery. Seriously. 14 out of 27 MPs were convicted. On the one hand. Bribery is so common and politicians are so shameless that they collectively walked right into a conviction. On the other hand, we actually showed that crimes among the ruling class have consequences.
Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
I don't really care if I get modded down so far I can't edit my hosts file for moo-ing. [..] Mod me down; label me a troll. But I used to be your neighbour. I used to be your friend.
Well if you really didn't care, then you would have just stated your case without the special pleading, because we all know that whenever you do this the opposite happens and you get modded +5.
You really need to grow up, friends.
Yes, patronizing comments like these are so helpful. Keep it up, "friend".
what IS the point you are making???
the LESS the federal government does, the more free the people are to be free. Gridlock over passing stuff for the sake of passing stuff IS the right way.
the constitution is suposed to mkae it hard for congress to make changes at the federal level for a reason
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Why would anonymous go after Trump? I get that he is a Republican. But Kasich is the candidate who is still in the race and who is still the absolute worst on tech issues. He is openly for forcing tech companies to be slaves of the government and do its bidding when it comes to protecting their customers. If it were up to him, he'd effectively give the government agencies the monkey wrench as the best tool for dealing with encryption (beat em with a monkey wrench until they talk). In fact, even though I am a registered Republican, I would donate money to whoever runs against Kasich in any election (including the next time he runs for governor).
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Yet you're paraphrasing. Do you have a link to the transcript of that comment?
“And the other thing is with the terrorists, you have to take out their families. They, they care about their lives. Don’t kid yourself. But they say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.” link
Asked about it later, he refused to back down
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways