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Anonymous Hacks Donald Trump's Voicemail and Leaks the Messages (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson writes: In the run-up to the presidential election, few days go by when Donald Trump isn't hitting the headlines for something he's said or done. The bombastic billionaire looks set to become the Republican candidate, and his journey towards the White House is littered with offense and controversy, and back in December Anonymous declared war on him. The loose collective of hackers and activist made its declaration after Trump announced plans to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. One of the first strikes in Anonymous' war sees the group hacking the businessman's voicemail and leaking the messages. The messages appear to show that Trump had a surprisingly cosy relationship with the more left-leaning section of the media than one might imagine.
They said exactly what he says in public...
FP!
There is very little "left-leaning" media in the USofA. Most of it would be corporate-leaning.
And they love him because (exactly as he says) he brings in the ratings for them. He's always ready for a friendly interview.
I'll get the pop corn.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
he's really a nice person! :D
Hmm... No condemnation of bullying...
No condemnation of hacking a system...
It's cool when it happens to non-politically approved persons... Right slashdot?
Morons.
Voicemail of a female gets released: It's virtual rape, harassment, gender Shoah!, absolutely horrible, the end of times!
Voicemail of Trump gets released: KEK!
Well, at least we all know what will be in the voicemail: Nothing Trump hasn't said already. To him, it's only more positive self-marketing.
Anonymous wasted their worthless time.
The Donald got caught with a "hot mic" on a commercial break of the Morning Joe talk show on MSNBC, where Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski were VERY friendly with him. Hell, it almost like it seemed like they were giving him campaign advice during the chat.
I'd imagine that CNN loves him as well, simply for the ratings boost he's given to the Republican debates.
I don't think that David Duke would be considered "left-leaning" by many.
NSA and all the other agencies are in the executive branch and work for obama. maybe you should shush.
Too bad it wasn't the NY Times interview where he allegedly says that he's telling everyone what they want to hear to get elected.
Everyone who votes for him says he speaks his mind. The jokes on them, because he speaks _their_ mind, which is why they support him.
i'm so sick of anonymous. they may have strong opinions, but the US election is an internal matter. we'll sort it out ourselves. butt out.
When the candidate in question has said that he'll attack foreign people and countries, it's far from an internal matter.
And he conveniently left the Gawker link out of the summary.... http://gawker.com/voicemails-a... Fucking SEO hound
Actually, Trump is hostile to immigrants of all kinds, but is a dove on foreign policy. He wants Russia to handle ISIS, and China to cool down North Korea. Maybe he doesn't relish the idea of being in charge of the War Room. One thing is for sure - Putin has noticed this aspect of Trump.
Anonymous didn't do this.... read the Gawker story... it was just some 4Chan users
Don't listen to just me, several studies and reports have said what I'm about to say, including an Ivy league school. The US has become almost text book fascism as defined by Mussolini. Meaning, you can not separate regulators from Corporations because the regulators work for the corporations. Regulatory capture has occurred in every sector of the economy. It is really easy to see, but you have to at least glance at it.
Main stream media simply works for those same interests. Again, it's easy to see if you care to look. "Money" and "Ratings" are a byproduct of the control the establishment has over the people using media.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
why? every election in the free world has this. obama has this. gwb has this. bill clinton has this. should foreign agents interfere in every single us election? if so, maybe we SHOULD bomb the world because they are literally trying to take away our freedom to choose our own leadership.
The easiest way to get Americans to vote for someone the outside world does not like is to make it obvious they do not like them. Americans will hold their nose and elect Satan himself if a bunch of foreigners acted like we couldn't. The overwhelming vast majority of Americans agree on one thing, foreigners do not have the right to tell us what to do.
Keep it up and Trump will be president.
Trump is really in a conspiracy with Hillary so that he'll get the Republican nomination & then lose the election, ensuring Hillary's presidency
Who, unlike Trump, is sane and has actual policy positions and ethics he's demonstrated for 30 years.
I don't really like being in the position of defending Trump but when has he said he'd attack foreign people and countries? Specifically?
I checked Google and the only thing I'm seeing is where he said he'd have opened fire on the Paris terrorists. I guess, with some mental gymnastics, one could construe that into saying that he'd attack foreign people and countries? However, I'm pretty sure that even some of the French said that. Actually, I think they did.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Hello America!
I'm Italian, pizza spaghetti & poor english, so don't grammar nazi me, please.
I'll go straight to the point.
Thank you all for Donald Trump, I mean it: thank you from the bottom of my heart.
For two decades, wherever I went, everyone who was not italian that I met around the world asked me a question, and I felt silently ashamed facing that simple question: "Why Berlusconi?".
Everywhere.
Italian? Why Berlusconi?
Even in Argentina, in a small gas station in the middle of nothing in Patagonia, a place without Internet, without sat channels, without newspapers: "Italianos? Berlusconi! Las fiestas con las ninas!".
That was awful.
Now, with Donald Trump you will receive from us the Olympic Torch of political silliness, you will rewrite THAT question, you will set us free, at last. Worldwide.
God bless America.
Francesco Lanza, 28 feb 2016
Mastering the English language is fucking easy: all you have to do is to put an f* word in every fucking sentence.
Kasich obviously can't win the nomination outright via the primaries. 99.5% chance Rubio can't either. What they CAN do is stash enough delegates to deny Trump the majority he needs to become the automatic nominee. When Kasich and probably Rubio drop out after the first convention vote, their delegates become free to vote for anyone else. That'll be the agreed non-Trump nominee. That's why they are still getting big-money donations and other support - because by dividing up the delegates four ways, Trump can't get a strict majority and the convention will be free to choose someone other than Trump. That's also why Ben Carson SUSPENDED his campaign rather than ended it- suspending means he can still select a few anti-Trump delegates. Most if not all of the drop outs suspended for that reason, and also if they had campaign debt.
If they all dropped out and supported Cruz NOW, Cruz might win 48% to Trumps 52%. By offering four primary candidates, hopefully Trump will get less than 50%, then at the convention the anti-Trump delegates (the majority) will choose the nominee.
> Vice President will then take over as Acting President.
There was a big fight about that in 1841. John Tyler insisted that he was President, his political opponents insisted that he was merely Acting President. He refused to open the letters they sent him, addressed to Acting President. Tyler won the fight. He was President.
Later, the 25th Amendment removed all doubt. The 25th begins with these words:
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
It's sad, isn't it? I hate the " 'merica" movement that has taken root in the country.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
i'm so sick of anonymous. they may have strong opinions, but the US election is an internal matter. we'll sort it out ourselves. butt out.
Perhaps you would like to share that point of view with your current government which seems intent on telling Britain how it should vote in the upcoming EU referendum.
For two decades, wherever I went, everyone who was not italian that I met around the world asked me a question, and I felt silently ashamed facing that simple question: "Why Berlusconi?".
True story:
I was vacationing in Bulgaria in the early 'aughts, was chatting people up on the street and almost got mugged *twice* because I was American (and specifically because of Bush).
I went right back to the hotel and told my GF: "From now on, we are Canadian. If anyone asks, we're from Canada!"
Didn't have any problem after that.
Love Bulgaria, the people are nice, but don't tell them you're American...
and here's why. He's moving the country to the Left. Our country has gotten to the point where there's Far Right Wing, Really Far Right Wing and Ted Cruz. Assuming (as Bernie said) you realize words like "Socialism" and "Welfare" have meaning and aren't just things to be afraid of then this is a good thing.
Yes, Trump's a jerk. But he's also the only Candidate besides Bernie Sanders who thinks healthcare (not just "affordable" healthcare) is a right. Yes, he's said some racist things, but he's also said them out loud instead of dog whistling.
I'll take Trump over Rubio any day of the week. Rubio's the kind of guy who'd stab me in the gut, twist the knife and then smile; saying it's nothing personal, just business. If Trump's gonna stab me in the gut it's because he hates them. I can deal with Trumps Hate. Rubio's cold hearted unlimited greed? Not so much.
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That's an ostrich.
He's an isolationist who wants to believe that treating foreign policy as someone else's problem is a viable strategy.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
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According to polls, though, if Hillary dropped out (perhaps because she was in jail) and it became a race between Bernie and any GOP person including Trump, Bernie would win. He's the least unfavorable candidate according to polls; lots of people despise Trump (on both sides), and lots of people despise Hillary (on both sides). Almost no one despises Bernie; they can't even come up with any real dirt on him. They can say stupid stuff about "socialism", they can say his policies won't work, they can say completely idiotic things about 90% tax rates (betraying a complete lack of understanding of marginal rates and also his actual policies), they can complain about his age (even though he's only 5 years older than Trump and 6 older than Hillary who's had a lot of health problems), but no one really *despises* him like they do all the other candidates. The other GOP candidates aren't as unliked, but they're not liked either: everyone thinks Cruz is a liar and a religious nut, and that Rubio is a robot and in the pocket of the establishment.
Until the French revolution happens. The problem is that the poor get poorer (debt and ladder rungs get further apart) and rich get richer (rent seeking while not producing anything of value). You're painting the rich elite as some technocratic power with decent foresight, but they're far from it.
Their power is more or less emergent, this whole system is and at some point it implodes under the weight of the monetary tragedy of the commons - you get two piles of money - mountain of debt, mountain of assets/savings and the two mountains not interacting in economy at all. Everything grinds to a halt.
Soon after, food shortages, infrastructure breakdown, the poor do a peasant revolt and string of revolutions until society resets into more equal state - after a lot of bloodshed. Then, after a while, rinse repeat.
Perhaps the time of french revolution is closer than we think.
Some of the leaked VMs show something scandals.... he donates to children’s charities!
Funny how no one is running with that story.
There is very little "left-leaning" media in the USofA. Most of it would be corporate-leaning.
If it's willing to sympathize with professional victims and smear their critics, it's not exactly corporate-leaning in the traditional sense.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Yet you're paraphrasing. Do you have a link to the transcript of that comment? I should think you'd have actually quoted what he said. I mean, it's Trump. There's a gazillion things wrong with him. There are countless reasons that people have to not want him to be the president. Some of them are even good reasons. It should be easy to find that quote - and, again, Google's not finding anything using those terms.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
That's called "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's the exact same thing as people voting for Trump because they hate Obama. You really need to grow up, friends.
Yeah, that's the only group where he opposes both legal and illegal immigration - TEMPORARILY. I happen to disagree w/ him - I think there should be a PERMANENT ban on Muslims entering the US. But that's the only group where he opposes illegal immigration. He actually supports OPT visa holders i.e. F1 students who get those work extensions - being granted green cards or citizenship, since they happen to be wanted and needed due to their skills.
Her effort? Having your testicles removed and your penis mutilated does not make a man a woman.
Yeah, he won a decathlon before he went batshit crazy. Why should we celebrate mental illness?
You really need to grow up, friends.
Yes, patronizing comments like these are so helpful. Keep it up, "friend".
Anonymous was dismantled a couple years back, so now they are almost certainly a government operation.
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Trump has a cozy relationship with the media? A public media figure has a cozy relationship with the media. Trump plays the news media like a fidlle. Great work anonymous.
Do you think any people has a right to enter a foreign country?
That's exactly what Democrats like to say.
Mod the fuck up.
And he's been involved with several socialist groups and political parties.
Trump is running against right-wing purists. The media doesn't get along with them. Oh, and BTW, there is very little right-wing media. Oh, you mean corporate media? Right, so basically, any media outlet that makes money including Gawker. Oh, wait, you mean internet media which is so well known for facts. But I digress. IMHO, Trump's strategy is quite effective. He talks to the people he needs to get results. He's not the type of person who says, "I won the election. They're going to have to shut up and do whatever I want."
But there is something that a lot of people are missing. Lots of people think he's the next Hitler or Mussolini. Those people really don't understand how our system of government works. If Trump wins in November (and assuming that Republicans retain control of Congress which may not be the case), it's safe to say that he doesn't have majority support in Congress so why would you think that they're just going to go along with everything Trump wants to do? Contrary to popular belief, POTUS doesn't make the law. POTUS is mainly a manager. Most presidents have done nothing but expand the unelected part of government. My guess is that Trump will fire a whole lot of unelected dead weight and he's the only candidate who will have no qualms about doing so. Is that a bad thing?
Why don't you go take 5 minutes to read the aumf for iraq.
Sure, the uneducated give up votes for the best lie and can't measure up front. Sure, the best politicians are the best liars. Sure, money is power so the wealthy exert power in all possible ways. While those things are true, it's also true that revolutions are rarely driven by the uneducated and easily fooled. Revolutions come from the educated middle class. People who are smart enough to see the game, and not quite oppressed enough to be ignorant. These same people are often overlooked and underestimated by the people trying to hoard power.
The founding of the US was not some peasant uprising, it was an educated bunch who wanted to hammer down the top. The French revolutions were much the same, each time led by a different set of intellects. I will say that the Brits are a bit better at relinquishing enough to the masses to stay in power, but the uprisings in Scotland, Ireland, and even the Colonies, were all led by an educated middle.
This is a game of momentum, and at present we are not too far from tipping into a revolt. The people holding power know it and are doing everything they can to maintain control. "Bread and Circuses" can be seen all over, from the current political race to programs like the Obama Phone program. The desire to disarm the populace falls into the exact same reasoning.
I don't own a crystal ball to say when, or even if, something will happen. I will say that when society gets to the point the US is at today, it usually takes something very small to push people into an all out revolt..
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Lots of BS here- everybody has an opinion about the opinion of everybody else.
Where is the text of the hacked documents so I can look at them and make an informed opinion.
Any ideas?
Dave Miller
Why would anonymous go after Trump? I get that he is a Republican. But Kasich is the candidate who is still in the race and who is still the absolute worst on tech issues. He is openly for forcing tech companies to be slaves of the government and do its bidding when it comes to protecting their customers. If it were up to him, he'd effectively give the government agencies the monkey wrench as the best tool for dealing with encryption (beat em with a monkey wrench until they talk). In fact, even though I am a registered Republican, I would donate money to whoever runs against Kasich in any election (including the next time he runs for governor).
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
This is stupid.
Under the Consitution, the Congressional branch is the most powerful, and can certainly stall either a Sanders or Trump.
However, the President controls the Dept of Justice, so can bring significant charges against the banking and medical industries. Imagine an SEC that actually does it's job. Ditto w/ the Dept of Treasury. A President should be able to cause significant disruption for the Federal Reserve.
Were either Sanders or Trump to win, to me the greatest threats are assassination and removal from office by the Senate. Impeachment by the House is almost a given.
Thank you. Someone understand the concept of transcripts. I'm not gonna go watch a dozen videos. That text is more than enough.
And, I guess, that *can* be related to the initial quote of, "he'll attack foreign people and countries." In other words, meaningless rhetoric - from both sides. I'm still not seeing any references for the "countries." I guess we could say those people would be citizens of foreign countries and, as citizens, they are a part of it so then he'd saying he'll attack foreign countries. However, that's pretty meaningless. There's a gazillion reasons to not like Trump, this doesn't appear to be one worth even mentioning. Reading it, it looks like he's saying something akin to, "Kill 'em all and let God sort them out."
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Yet you're paraphrasing. Do you have a link to the transcript of that comment?
“And the other thing is with the terrorists, you have to take out their families. They, they care about their lives. Don’t kid yourself. But they say they don’t care about their lives. You have to take out their families.” link
Asked about it later, he refused to back down
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Do you think any people has a right to enter a foreign country?
When asking that question, make sure you ask it of everyone.
Do Israelis have right to enter Palestine?
Do Americans have a right to enter Afghanistan?
At any rate, the US is free to prevent anyone they want from entering its country. But it must be up to them to enforce it, on their own soil, and their own cost. Demanding that Mexico pays for a wall is just idiocy.
How about when Trump said on air in a Fox "interview" that we should attack terrorist's families, which would constitute a war crime.
http://time.com/4132368/donald...
"Honestly, it's at least the same size as anyone else. Probably bigger. No definitely bigger! Come down next weekend and you can measure it. Actually, make that tomorrow. Screw that, let me know your mobile number and I'll send you a picture I took next to a quarter."
The answer to all those questions is no. I find it very revealing that you didn't ask if palestinians have the right to enter israel. Mexico is not invading the US. We don't have to demand anything. Illegal aliens remit 10's of billions of dollars a year to Mexico. We can tax those remittances and use the funds to build a wall. Not real difficult.
Why should we celebrate mental illness?
Because apparently humans can do great things such as win olympic medals, invent the computer (Turing), tell great stories (first Matrix), and all sorts of other stuff despite what society (or you and 3 mods in this case) thinks of their mental state.
People are attacking Trump since he represents an existential threat to the status quo, which is not a free country, especially when it comes to him speaking the painful truth.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
I never mentioned or implied supernatural creation had anything to do with it. This guy was not born this way. He chose to have it done to him.
I don't question their deeds. Those are great accomplishments.
Look at it this way: If he wanted to cut off any other part of his body, we'd look in askance. Since it's his penis and gonads we're supposed to cheer on the 'diversity'? Sorry, but I smell a bit of an agenda here...or at least the possibility of one.
I suppose it wouldn't be bigotry if he wanted to cut something else off instead of his penis and gonads?
Let me first say that I'm not a fan of Trump. However, it's disingenuous to claim that he "wants to ban Muslims from entering the US". This Politifact article gives some more details.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
Yep.