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9 Open Source Alternatives To Picasa

An anonymous reader writes: After over a decade of ownership of the product, Google announced just a few weeks ago that it will be closing the shutters for good on Picasa, a cross-platform photo viewer and organizer with basic editing capabilities. In the official announcement, Google has set March 15 as the end of support for the desktop client, with changes to the accompanying web-album hosting service set to roll out later in the spring. On Opensource.com, Jason Baker rounded up 9 open source and Linux-compatible alternatives to the popular photo sharing service.

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  1. The alternatives, are they actually _good_?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Are any of these alternatives actually any good?

    Shit, they're already broken up into "viewers", "organizers" and "web albums".

    Does that mean that I'll need to use three goddamn different apps just to get something resembling the Picasa experience?!

    Will I need to run my own web server just to get these fucking "web albums"?! Will I need to pay for hosting?!

    This article reminds me of my experience with the Rust programming language. I was told it was an alternative to C++, but when I went and tried Rust for myself it became clear that it was a dismal failure rather than a real alternative to C++.

    An alternative is only a real alternative if it's as good or better than whatever it is that it's replacing!

    1. Re:The alternatives, are they actually _good_?! by almitydave · · Score: 2

      Alternatives can be worse. The word you're looking for is "replacement".

      Shotwell does a lot of what Picasa did. No alternative is going to match features 1:1, but it does support library organization, editing, photo import, uploading (including to Picasa web albums). Basically all the things I used Picasa for. Picasa had a lot of features, though, so I guess it depends. Shotwell was my go-to photo importing tool until a couple of crippling bugs made it useless for me.

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    2. Re:The alternatives, are they actually _good_?! by ToraX242 · · Score: 1

      Shotwell might do a lot of things right. But it misses one important point: platform/os-support. Linux support was only a sideshow for Picasa. It's main stages were Windows and OSX all of which Shotwell doesn't support. Too bad.

    3. Re:The alternatives, are they actually _good_?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are any of these alternatives actually any good?

      If you have a real camera you may need Lightroom because the raw support is less good in other programs. Neither Darktable nor Google Photos can read the images written by Sony a7II. I know it's probably Sony's fault, but Adobe's MBAs got the deals done to get it working so I have to pay up.

  2. Open source Picasa by nycsubway · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about if Google open-sourced the Picasa desktop program? Then it could continue rather than being discarded completely. I understand why they would ditch and forever bury a cloud service and all of its code, but the desktop program can continue to be stand alone, separate from any of the proprietary google services. It's great at what it does. It's very intuitive to organize photos and very fast.

    1. Re:Open source Picasa by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about if Google open-sourced the Picasa desktop program? Then it could continue rather than being discarded completely

      Why would they want to do that? They want you to use Google cloud services to do that stuff, not an offline standalone program.

      As far as it being fast, a cloud-based photo editing service will be faster at operating on data that's on Google Drive. You say that your photos aren't on Google Drive? Well then you need to put them all on there. You're not supposed to be storing your personal information on your own local machine, you're supposed to be storing everything in the Cloud.

      It makes perfect sense that Google is killing off Picasa and not making the source code available.

    2. Re:Open source Picasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      It uses Google's proprietary libraries - which will never be made available, and are illegal to redistribute. Furthermore, the local code is subject to many copyright issues, which are a minefield. I.e. it's not a case of dumping the source into a tarball and making available, it costs millions to review the code, which no business will do as it is effectively illegal because it's directly against the board's fiduciary duty. Welcome to US laws.

    3. Re:Open source Picasa by ChrisMaple · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They'd do it to generate good will, which is wearing thin on the Google brand.

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    4. Re:Open source Picasa by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2

      What fiduciary duty is that?

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    5. Re:Open source Picasa by acroyear · · Score: 3, Interesting

      well, to get us to use the cloud for that, they would need to have their cloud-editing tools not suck.

      They bought picnik and totally ran it into the dirt, where all that is left is a handful of astronomy-named one-shot filters that make me miss instagram, and i've never actually installed instagram for f's sake.

      Otherwise, you can do more editing on your phone/tablet than you can on your desktop, and that is one gigantic bit of what-the-f round two. The idea that mobile should be *better* than desktop is an attitude I will simply never ever understand.

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    6. Re: Open source Picasa by cdwiegand · · Score: 0

      To retain assets, to not squander money on projects that will make the Company no money. Captalism 101.

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    7. Re:Open source Picasa by KGIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apparently not.

      Well, no... The goodwill is wearing thin. Them doing something like that to garner goodwill does not seem to be likely.

      Gotta be frank, I really don't think Google gives a shit any more. They've got what they want and they're now huge. They're no longer nimble. They're no longer worried about a future. They went from having a six month plan to having a fifteen year plan. A few broken eggs along the way, when we humans are such shortsighted fools with attention deficit, means little to them in the grand scheme of things.

      Hopefully, I'm completely wrong.

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    8. Re:Open source Picasa by pegdhcp · · Score: 0

      They are obliged to protect share holders' profit. While it can be argued that open sourcing program will develop some goodwill towards Google, it is not a quantifiable and/or provable action. Also obligation to protect the share holders' rights are in several Civil Law regulations I had encountered with, so I assume it is codified in every "normal" legal system...

    9. Re:Open source Picasa by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      well, to get us to use the cloud for that, they would need to have their cloud-editing tools not suck.

      No, they don't. They just have to eliminate the desktop tools. After a while, you'll forget all about how much better the desktop tools were and you'll think the cloud tools are just fine.

      Otherwise, you can do more editing on your phone/tablet than you can on your desktop, and that is one gigantic bit of what-the-f round two. The idea that mobile should be *better* than desktop is an attitude I will simply never ever understand.

      You're obviously "stuck in the past"... The Cloud is the future!! It's new, and newer is always better!

    10. Re:Open source Picasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about a corporation giving money to charity, or spending money to protect the environment, or refusing to buy blood diamonds? Is that also illegal? (I'm not arguing - I'm just wondering.)

    11. Re:Open source Picasa by qvatch · · Score: 1

      OTOH, if they want you to use cloud services, they need to have a history of not shutting down said cloud services.

    12. Re:Open source Picasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a wonderful idea. I'm tired of programs like this becoming obsolete - I rather expect it. Why put days of effort into categorizing my photos when I know it's going to be all for naught at some point?

    13. Re:Open source Picasa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any company with the slogan "don't be evil" is destined to be evil. They knew from the beginning that they could be, so they now are.

    14. Re:Open source Picasa by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      Why not open source both sides (Client & Cloud) that way hosting companies and organisations could offer cloud hosting for Picasa clients. Much more sensible but I suppose google won't bother just like with IGoogle.

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    15. Re:Open source Picasa by pegdhcp · · Score: 1

      AFAIK and IANAL... Charity expences has tax advantages so should be no problem. I have no idea on environmental activities' situation. Blood diamonds, and all other forms of conflict metals and/or materials are legally questionable to begin with, so not buying them can be defined as a responsible business practice. And acting responsibly is not just legal but a requirement and obligation in some jurisdictions...

    16. Re:Open source Picasa by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Charity still represents a loss of profit. All it does is reduce taxable income. It's deducted from gross income, but there's still a loss of profits associated with it. If a company donates $1000 and pays 30% in taxes, its tax bill is reduced by only $300. The rest of the $700 is lost profits.

      There are plenty of conflict resources that are perfectly legal to purchase, but which companies choose to source from elsewhere despite higher costs because it's the right thing to do. This is not a case of maximizing profits.

      This is the issue that I have with people that make the claim that companies are required to turn the maximum profit. They're not. Publicly traded companies are required to take actions to try to protect shareholder value, but that does not mean turning over every rock in case a penny can be found under it. People making such claims frequently do not understand how the system works even in the slightest.

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    17. Re: Open source Picasa by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      They're required to attempt to protect shareholder value. They are not required to pursue every last penny of profit from every possible source.

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  3. What's next? by grumpy-cowboy · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    10 steps to build your own ...
    21 days to learn ...
    15 easy ways to ...
    9 alternative to ...

    Come on!

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    1. Re:What's next? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Tell me about it. This site would be so much better if the number isn't mentioned in an article that is of general interest to Slashdot readership. That damn number would never have happened if bizx hadn't bought the site right!

    2. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6. PROFIT!!!

    3. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      7 virgin sacrifices

      captcha: stoned

    4. Re:What's next? by desdinova+216 · · Score: 2

      would you rather Dice still owned slashdot?

    5. Re:What's next? by whipslash · · Score: 1

      I believe he was being sarcastic

    6. Re:What's next? by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

      I know I was

    7. Re:What's next? by whipslash · · Score: 1

      Touche

    8. Re:What's next? by rwise2112 · · Score: 1

      10 steps to build your own ... 21 days to learn ... 15 easy ways to ... 9 alternative to ...

      Come on!

      How about "1 Offtopic Comment from grumpy-cowboy"?

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    9. Re:What's next? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      With that illiterate cretin timothy? No way.

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  4. Just upload all your photos to Usenet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I did, and now they're everywhere.

    You're welcome.

    1. Re:Just upload all your photos to Usenet by salnikov · · Score: 1

      Hello goatse guy!

  5. Ever heard of alternativeto.net? by Nunya666 · · Score: 2
    1. Re:Ever heard of alternativeto.net? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough, that's what I thought the article linked to at first. Then I noticed the URL was not that. I actually find that site pretty handy at times.

      There are often little gems that I've never heard about. (I do not, in fact, know everything.) That's a pretty good site for finding interesting alternatives or replacements. I'd think that it might make a good bookmark for people who are considering switching from Windows to Linux. There are countless little projects, with varied stages of success, and that's a good starting point to find options.

      I'd kind of like to find one that has alternatives to scripts - like PHP scripts. I've not yet come across one that's all that compelling or complete. Being able to find alternative CMS, blog platforms, forums, mailing list, or others would be pretty handy. There are a few sites like that but none seem all that well done or complete.

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    2. Re:Ever heard of alternativeto.net? by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

      The problem with script alternatives is that they do so many things that any one script can often replace any other script, depending on the context. I doubt if a "cross-reference list" would have much value.

      Here are some more options:

      Here's a site for open source alternatives: http://www.osalt.com/
      This is for Linux alternatives: http://linuxappfinder.com/alte...

    3. Re:Ever heard of alternativeto.net? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Nifty, thanks. And yeah, I've not found a script alternative site that does it well. I'm an eternal optimist, sort of, so I'd like to think it can be done. They don't have to be an *exact* match. Maybe I'll take a day or two and see if I can think of a way to knock one out and toss it up for others to maintain.

      Either way, thanks for the links. I knew of Linux App Finder but osalt is new to me.

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  6. Face recognition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    is the feature I will miss most. Are there any alternatives?

    1. Re:Face recognition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook.

    2. Re: Face recognition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OpenCV.

  7. Face tagging? by TREE · · Score: 3, Interesting

    One of the most unique features of Picasa is the facial recognition system. Are there any other systems out there that have it working to the degree that Picasa does? With training and automatic matching?

    1. Re:Face tagging? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Digikam has been able to do it for quite a while, though the UI's been somewhat dodgy in the past. It's getting better. So be sure to get a recent version (Ubuntu, for example, tends to have a pathetically old version in its repositories.)

    2. Re:Face tagging? by skastrik · · Score: 1

      One of the most unique features of Picasa is the facial recognition system....

      Yes, by now Google recognizes the the face of 20% of the worlds population. I don't know if that is cool or scary. Mission accomplished?

    3. Re:Face tagging? by TREE · · Score: 1

      This comment is very relevant, because *Picasa* is actually one of the few tools that can do facial recognition *without* uploading the results to "the cloud". I'm sure Google Photos (or whatever is replacing Picasa in Google's eye) will still do facial recognition in the cloud, but like you I don't see that as a good idea. Facebook etc. do this as well, and tie it to users' accounts.

    4. Re:Face tagging? by pbhj · · Score: 2

      I'm using version 4.14.0-wily~ppa3 from Philip Johnsons PPA, which is pretty well up to date. I rate the facial recognition about on a par with Picasa about 10 years ago (my memory is hazy on exactly how long). It takes a lot of processing power and a lot of time to work for me. Useful but not great and missing some of the niceties that Picasa had way back.

      On the whole I rate Digikam highly, having used it for many years, but the facial recognition has never really lived up to the promise for me.

  8. Is anyone using Google Photos? by gQuigs · · Score: 1

    I like the idea of it being a backup of my Photos, but there is no official uploader on Linux. (They also pitch it as the opposite, backup from your phone to the cloud. I want to get it to my desktop....)

    I want any organization/metadata added to be present in the photos or folder structure itself. Is that possible to do?

    1. Re:Is anyone using Google Photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As you're using Linux, you've probably heard of rsync. Google allow the usage of rsync via gsutil to dump your stuff to their cloud storage etc.

      Regarding meta data, that'll be down to how you handle it locally and the requirement for your online presentation tool. Against, you're using Linux, so you could probably use a trivial script to handle any munging/API work.

    2. Re:Is anyone using Google Photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Digikam can export to and import from Google Photos. It's not so automatic as Picassa's folder sync, but it works pretty well.

    3. Re: Is anyone using Google Photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use an OwnCloud instance running on a server at home. The android OwnCloud app allows instant upload of photos and videos from my phone to the server. The desktop app syncs files from the server to my workstation. This way every picture or video I take on my phone ends up automatically synced to my workstation and backed up on the server without me needing to rely on Google.

  9. Irfanview by malditaenvidia · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not cross platform, but windows users might want to look into irfanview. It's a really powerful image organizer with editing capabilities and photoshop plugin support.

    1. Re:Irfanview by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am in awe of both how great Irfanview's functionality is, and how shit the interface is. Seriously, nothing seems to do what I expect.

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    2. Re:Irfanview by GrBear · · Score: 1

      +1 Amen Brother

    3. Re:Irfanview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very true.

    4. Re:Irfanview by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I tried Irfanview. I was quite impressed at how it turned a modern neat imaging viewing experience into something I hadn't seen since ACDSee 2 on a Windows 2k machine. The interface is garbage. Some of the navigation and control choices are bizarre, I never was able to set it up in a way that it made a decent effort of rendering an image when zooming.

      That said it does have some great file support. And it's not the worst out there either. That crown goes to Windows 10 which seems to have broken the image viewer for images larger than 50mpxl which take ages to load and when zoomed in on an area will retain that level of detail and interpolation even when you zoom out again. Irfanview may make me feel I'm on a Windows 2k machine again, but Windows 10 picture viewer makes me feel like I'm using a dial up modem getting an image that corrupts during download.

    5. Re:Irfanview by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I've used XNView on Windows in the past. Their Linux version is shit but their Windows version is kind of awesome.

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    6. Re:Irfanview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      It's user error. You didn't bother with it, so that's why you "couldn't" configure it.

      IrfanView does everything that you claim it doesn't and the interface is extremely basic, so I have no idea what you mean. More likely you saw a couple of screenshots and never even used it.

      Zooming isn't handled by anything better than IrfanView, as I have yet to see any other image viewer that can use B-Spline and Lanczos resampling. All of the others only do pixel doubling or some shitty bilinear or bicubic resampling garbage.

      IrfanView is the single greatest image viewing application out there, full stop.

    7. Re:Irfanview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not cross platform

      It's also neither open-source nor freeware.

    8. Re:Irfanview by Bitbeisser · · Score: 1

      I am using IrfanView ever since it became available, many, many moons ago. And everything does just what I expect it to do. It is fast, supports pretty much all living picture formats and is incredibly easy to use....

    9. Re:Irfanview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is free as in free beer, but not free as in freedom,

  10. They forgot at least Darktable by ziggystarsky · · Score: 4, Informative

    Darktable is a primarily a great Raw editor. But over time it has become a decent photo manager, too. Darktable supports lossless edits, so you can store your untouched original files, and all derivations are stored by their edit history in sidecar files.

      I used to use digikam, which has many good features. But digikam simply crashes way too often.

  11. Some very good ones in the list. by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    I was a long time user of DigiKam, but it's just become too heavy for the amount of photos I have. Load times were going up and removing the cache and letting it recreate it just wasn't helping much to make it faster.

    gThumb is what I use now. Very simple, but fast and easy for the wife to use as well.

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  12. "closing the shutters"??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's bad enough that "shuttering" now means "closing", but now we're "closing the shutters"?? WHAT FUCKING SHUTTERS!??

    Just say CLOSING!!!!!!!

    1. Re: "closing the shutters"??? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Most cameras have shutters .

      > OVERLOAD ERROR.

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  13. Gimme an alternative to Gallery2 instead by dargaud · · Score: 1
    Having a good and efficient photography workflow is difficult to figure out and set up. I looked up Picassa before it was bought by Google, I liked it but I never liked the idea of having my pictures hosted by someone else. So I have my own workflow: shell script to move and rename the pics from the camera card to the PC, SilkyPix for the RAW edition, PTgui for the panorama edition, Gimp for custom edits, ashell script for archival and backup and Gallery2 for semi-public (friends, family and customers) broadcast, hosted only my own Apache+Php server. I control the chain, the images are mine and I know who accesses them. Great.

    But Gallery2 also has been unmaintained for several years, with Gallery3 going nowhere. It still works fine, but one day it won't after an uncompatible php update or a security leak. So what's the alternative ? I can't care less about Picassa !

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    1. Re: Gimme an alternative to Gallery2 instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OwnCloud has a decent gallery view for pictures and lets you share things by link+password with decently fine grained access control. It does a lot more than picture sharing though so might be a bit heavyweight for your needs.

    2. Re:Gimme an alternative to Gallery2 instead by barra.ponto · · Score: 2

      Piwigo. It can import gallery2/gallery3. My ISP supports it via automatic install. At home installing via the .zip/web installer was fine. If you have way too many files you may need to tweak some php params for the import to work. Took me a weekend afternoon to move everything over. The author of Gallery's GreyDragon theme recommends it, moved over his stuff, and recreated his theme, though I actually now use modus instead.

  14. non issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GIMP + dropbox | gdrive | imgur | flickr | instagram | owncloud...
    srsly...

  15. Why Linux-compatible? by lhowaf · · Score: 1

    Is this really the year of Desktop Linux?

    Picasa ran on Windows so these, for the most part, aren't alternatives at all.

    1. Re:Why Linux-compatible? by Harlequin80 · · Score: 1

      Picasa had a linux version for a long time too.

    2. Re:Why Linux-compatible? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because a lot of us use it.

    3. Re:Why Linux-compatible? by lhowaf · · Score: 1

      I do, too. The point, though, is that those looking for alternatives now are using the Windows version of Picasa. They aren't looking for an alternate operating system - they just want to replace the functionality of the abandonware.

  16. Monumentally Stupid Question by ewhac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is a photo organizer for?

    "For organizing your photos, you dullard."

    Yeah, but what's it for ?

    Seriously, I don't get it. I have a pile of a few thousand (gack!) photos sitting in well-known directories. Except for the ones from a very old phone, they all still have their original filenames and datestamps. Every so often, I let one of these "photo organizers" loose on the lot, and the only evident result is a gallery of thumbnails. Great; now I have double the number of image files to manage (original plus thumbnails).

    "Well, you can organize them by category." Okay, how is the initial categorization done? Or do I have to invent (and remember) my own taxonomy of tags, and apply them to each photo in turn? Assuming I go to that trouble, is this metadata portable in the event I decide to change to another organizer?

    "Well, you can create custom slideshows by selecting photos by category or individually." Uh, all right, vaguely useful. But given how incredibly rarely I do that, I could accomplish the same thing by launching Geeqie on a directory full of softlinks.

    "Well, you can also edit your photos as you review them in the organizer..." Uh, no. Now you're no longer a photo organizer, but an image editor with an index. No thanks; I don't load images into an editor unless I plan on actually editing them. Fewer accidents happen that way.

    I guess what I'm really asking is: What sorts of things do you do with your photos that makes a photo organizer an indispensable tool? How do you use the organizer to make your work easier?

    1. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      Exactly.

      Most "organizers" just get in the way. They destroy whatever organization you managed to have in the first place. iPhoto was especially bad about this. Picasa was nice in that it was an all-in-one-sink app that did not completely destroy your own organizational scheme. It was very unusual in that respect.

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    2. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by pbhj · · Score: 4, Informative

      I use Digikam.

      + It manages meta-data and tags (yes my own taxonomy) that I apply to allow me to easily find images and to give space to write some text.

      + It has an editor that's good for colour correction cropping and similar functions (I use GIMP for more complex changes).

      + It has a print manager to help arrange images on sheets of photo paper, add titles and such.

      + It also has face recognition and tagging, so I can access a folder of images and choose nice pictures based on who is in them, or if I want a picture with a certain group of people in then I can find them all.

      + Search by keywords, or by drawing a rudimentary image and doing image matching.

      + What else, oh, when it's somewhere new I usually add some geo coordinates so that if in the future if we want to remember where we were, or my kids want to find the place we visited, or somesuch then they can

      + Uploading images to Facebook (and in the past to other places like Flickr and a private Gallery2 site) and keeping track of which images were uploaded (by using tags).

      That's about all I use, there's lots more in there including things like date sorting (which ignores the folder structure and lets you view virtual folders by date) and colour searching.

      Tags and such are applied in well-known meta-data regions that can be ported to other applications. In fact one problem I had was that I downloaded a load of image files that were already tagged and the tags were automatically imported.

    3. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      For me, the big advantage of Picasa was the face recognition. Tag someone a few times, and it becomes extremely easy to find pictures of specific friends and relatives.

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    4. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      All my photos are sorted by /yyyy-mm-dd-1st day at kindy/yyyy-mm-dd-IMGxxx.jpg So all my photos are sorted easily. I currently have 115,000 photos dating back to 2004. Every photo is piped through a piece of software that reads the exif data and renames the files to suit as it comes off the device.

      I don't use the tag system that picasa has. What Picasa has done though is allow me to find all the photos with my face in, or my wifes, or one of my kids or any other person we have spent the time training it to recognise. It also has a very nice viewing window that allows you to rapidly scroll through thousands and thousands of thumbnails that are stored in folder trees. It allows me to select photos that are stored in all sorts of random location and export them to a folder somewhere else. I can also search on keywords, such as kindy, and I will find photos that are in directories that contain that word.

      If you have the number of photos that I have and the folder structure than using a file browser is just terrible. You would never ever find the photo you wanted.

      So for me the big loss will be the facial recognition.

    5. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by jabuzz · · Score: 1

      While that is a highly useful feature, we found that in our family no matter how hard we tried it would confuse people. That is it seems for example quite determined to randomly classify my brothers eldest daughter as my sister and vice versa. It also thinks that my sisters eldest is my brother and vice versa. Mind you those two combinations listed above do indeed look alike, so much so that my nephew thought the old photo of my brother was of him but was confused at it was not his jumper (sweater for you Americans).

      It also can't distinguish between a real person and a photograph of a person. So if you take a photograph of say your brothers children opening presents at their grandma's it tell you that your sister is in the photograph because she is in a photo on the mantelpiece. Highly annoying.

      On the other hand it seems to do a better job of correctly differentiating my brothers wife from her identical twin sister! So go figure.

    6. Re:Monumentally Stupid Question by daedalus2097 · · Score: 1

      Picasa doesn't interfere with your existing photo organisation; it complements it. You can drag and drop your photo files all you want, and Picasa automatically and transparently follows suit. And editing a file in Picasa never affects the original photo either unless you explicitly tell Picasa to save the changes to the original photo. All original photos are kept too so there's never a fear of an accident. It's clear you haven't actually used Picasa because you don't have a clue about the basics of how it works. Crop an image and you can still go back to that image 5 years later and undo the crop. I've done it, it's wonderful.

        Most other "organisers" are the opposite - they dictate how you organise your folders, and lose track when you move a photo manually, and I've never liked that approach. I want to organise my extensive library my way, and Picasa lets me do that without getting in the way.

      For me, it's a fantastic tool for quickly finding photos with a certain person in them. Even finding photos of someone who hasn't been tagged yet only takes seconds, and that's with a library of over 100,000 photos. If you don't like using keywords, just stick them in a folder with whatever name you like and Picasa will still show that up in searches. For example, searching for a face with the keyword "2014" will find all photos containing the selected face with a datestamp in 2014, as well as any stored in a folder called "Holidays 2014". Super handy. Or, if you tag someone's name you don't even have to select the face, just use their name as a keyword.

  17. Picasa was about digital cameras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As digital cameras are displaced by smartphones, Picasa is not needed anymore. Picasa was about connecting your camera to your computer and uploading to the cloud. Today that is called Google Photos and its router-killing, but very handy background sync.

  18. Linux version was good while it lasted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1


    Picasa had a linux version for a long time too.

    Yes it did!

    It was shit canned just prior to the Windows version gaining a new feature of making videos. Obviously this would be difficult to replicate on Linux, so the Linux version was discontinued. Now maybe it was discontinued because of this or maybe for some other reason, but I believe this is what stopped it from continuing.

    At the end of the day, though, I had to ask myself, "Is it really worth using a proprietary application on Linux?"

  19. Portable? Tagging? Cross-platform? by Fencepost · · Score: 1

    I've mostly never bothered going beyond just stuffing things in folders, sometimes by date sometimes by subject.

    That's because while I've tried various options in the past (including DigiKam when I was keeping a Linux box running all the time at home), what I'd really like is something that can do the equivalent of ID3 tagging within my picture files. I'd like to be able to set all this assorted metadata about subjects, locations, etc. and have it travel with the picture. Having it in an index file in the storage directory does me no good when I pull stuff over to a Windows box, or perhaps to a phone, or push it to Dropbox for simple sharing.

    Having everything stored in a single database disconnected from the images is not what I want, and not what I want to invest my time in. SQLite may be a wonderful thing, but a SQLite database containing all my photo metadata does me jack bit of good if I'm not at a desktop system where all that crap is stored.

    And cloud. No, I do not in fact wish to store all of my photos in some online nirvana where each can float around on its own little cloud of electrons meditating about the Buddha and hoping to be a single-pixel gif on the next turn of the wheel. I'm not opposed to online storage (particularly for backups) and I know that we're no longer in the age of watching JPGs slowly fill the screen as they download at 48.8 and render on a 386 - instead we're in the age of shitty underperforming peering connections as network carriers and content providers fight over who's going to pay how much for what so that I can get my picture and edit it using tools written in what - Javascript? Adobe Flash?

    Give me something that saves structured metadata within the files themselves in a portable way (no supplemental files, no resource forks, no alternate data streams, nothing that requires concepts that would be difficult to relate to my dear dead grandmother even with broad analogies). If local apps want to load and cache compilations of that data for speed of access, that's fine and dandy as long as the file is the master.

    And while you're at it, get off my damn lawn.

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    fencepost
    just a little off
  20. Nomacs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A cool, stand alone image viewing and organising software is Nomacs Image Suite. Its open source, runs on a plethora of OSes and supports loads of formats, even several RAW formats.

  21. My favorite lightweight photo editor/organizer: by sabbede · · Score: 1
    Still the Microsoft Office Picture Manager. No good for Linux, but free as part of Sharepoint Designer 2010.

    I still don't know why MS stopped including it in Office. It's absolutely ideal for what my users need - fast, easy batch correction/resizing/rotation of photos for upload to real estate multiple listing sites.

  22. Same old Google. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After over a decade of ownership of the product, Google announced just a few weeks ago that it will be closing the shutters for good on Picasa

    And this, in a nutshell, is why I make a point of never ever relying on a Google product.

    As a company, they seem to have no concept at all of the impact of closing down their products, even when well-established and well used. They do it frequently, and sometimes with very short notice.

    I would love to recommend a company to use Google Docs instead of Office 365, but I just don't have enough faith that Google Docs will still be available in five year's time. I do have confidence that Office 365 isn't going to vanish without trace; that even if things do change and there's a different platform in a few years time, that MS will keep supporting it and will provide a sensible upgrade/migration path. Google on the other hand, if they stay true to form, will just get bored of supporting Google Docs one day, and announce that it's closing down, with no migration path, and probably only a month or two to grab offline copies of all your business-critical documentation.

    That's harsh, but it's a simple fact: Google have done nothing to inspire confidence that they have a long-term plan for any of their products.

    I'm all in favour of the "fail fast" thing: things like Google Glass are fine to act like this; if you don't think it's going to work out, kill it before it goes anywhere. But many other Google projects are killed right when they're at the top of their game, when a lot of people are relying on them. I've been bitten more than once. I'm glad I don't use Picassa, because I'd be really annoyed right now if I did.