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Wrecking Crew Demolishes Wrong Housing Duplex Following Google Maps Error (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A demolition company has leveled the wrong housing duplex after one of its employees was misled by a Google Maps error. Instead of bringing down a house destroyed by a tornado in Rowlett, Texas at 7601 Cousteau Drive, the wrecking crew demolished another home at 7601 and 7603 Calypso Drive, a block away. Owners of the second house were waiting for their house to be repaired, since it didn't suffer major damages in the tornado. The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as "not a big deal." The wrecking crew used Google Maps to find the house to demolish because they were brought in from a neighboring town, but failed to double-check with a neighbor before starting their work. A Google engineer confirmed that Google Maps was showing the wrong information.

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  1. Probably in the EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "All information contained with Google Maps is provided for Entertainment purposes only and should not be relied upon for complete accuracy, up to and including: GPS guidance for self-guided weapons systems, Pizza Delivery, and House Demolition."

    1. Re:Probably in the EULA by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      Google does not deserve your help! They've got plenty of money to pay some schlub to fix it. Why should you work for a for-profit corporation for free?

      If you want to volunteer to help improve maps, contribute to OpenStreetMap instead!

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  2. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like you should be using official zoning maps from the city for something like this...

    1. Re: WTF? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or, y'know, check the demolition permit taped to the front door? I don't care who issues those permits, per se, but a crew needs to at least verify that.

      One project I managed involved a demo - there was a ton of paperwork and I had to sign papers, on-site, as owner-representative before the excavator started in.

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    2. Re: WTF? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      He didn't spell it "per say". He's in the top quartile just for that.

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    3. Re:WTF? by aix+tom · · Score: 3, Funny

      And Yes... there was such a time as Before Google Maps, hard as it may seem to imagine.

      Ah, someone else who remembers Mapquest. ;-P

  3. Doesn't anybody double check? by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How hard would it be to go to the nearest intersection and make sure you're on the right street, and double check the street address?

    I think the (former) homeowners should get to stay in "not a big deal"'s house until new houses are built. "Not a big deal" can live in a tent on the construction site.

    1. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by twotacocombo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How hard would it be to go to the nearest intersection and make sure you're on the right street, and double check the street address?

      According to Google maps, Cousteau turns into Calypso, and street view verifies this. The streets form a loop, and there is only one set of signs in that area, in a non-intersection corner where one street name arbitrarily turns into the other. Due to the tornado, this sign pole may not even currently exist. I can completely see where the confusion lies with this situation. While the demo crew are at fault for lack of due diligence, who's the fucking imbecile at the city planning office that approved the same exact street number for two houses within spitting distance of each other on what is essentially the same street?

    2. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Close to where I live, there's a street which starts in one town and runs into another town. Street name does not change at the town border. #1 is neighbours with... #1. Those people get each other's mail and visitors all the time. Nobody saw that one coming.

    3. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you're correct, which is why in my neck of the woods you can't just roll up to a house, say, "this looks like it", and start tearing it down. You need to get a permit.

      The permit application requires a photo of the house you intend to take down. You have to prove you know what you're doing, e.g., that you've had the utilities, especially gas turned off. You have to have a pest control company eradicate any rats nesting in the structure that might move onto adjacent properties. You've got to notify the police and fire department well in advance and if they determine there is a public risk or nuisance you've got to pay for a police and/or fire detail. Then you've got to notify all the abutters by certified ail and post a demolition notice on the actual structure to be demolished seven days in advance.

      Yeah, it's a lot of rigamarole, and I'm sure people in much of the rest of the country can't imagine living under that much regulation. On the other hand, we can't imagine having our house demolished by mistake. And somehow developers still manage to make a living, so I don't think it's too much to ask..

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    4. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by starblazer · · Score: 3, Funny

      It should be a requirement for any developer, house builder, or city planning department to be a delivery person for at least 6 months. You will see the end of stupid addressing and small, hard to make out numbers REAL quick.

      This rant brought to you by someone who has also been mistaken as Mr. Amazon.com man this past winter.

  4. well, it was Nabors Demolition by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Funny

    and they demolished the neighbors.

    1. Re:well, it was Nabors Demolition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you read the article, it has a link to the demolition company's web site. The site still has contact information on it, along with the hideously juicy slogan, "We could wreck the world," which they did for these unfortunate folks.

  5. It wasn't a Google Maps error by hawguy · · Score: 2

    It wasn't a Google Maps error, it was a "failure to identify the address error" by the crew. When you're doing something as destructive as tearing down a house, take a look at the street sign and make sure it matches the address on the work order. Don't blindly follow your GPS.

    Obligatory GPS scene from "The Office":

    https://youtu.be/n5lbShWEGQ0

  6. In the demolisher's defense by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Funny

    Both the houses were white with shingle roofs.

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    1. Re:In the demolisher's defense by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Same physical street, with different street names for different sections. As an ex-taxi driver I can confirm that, regardless of the kind of map you are using, it is very easy to find the wrong address. There should have been a second, more reliable, identifier for the demolition, eg: a demolition notice pinned to the front door.

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  7. Not a big deal? by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is not the first time this has happened.

    I think by law, that whenever this happens, the company 's owner should have their house destroyed - along with all of their personal photos, keepsakes and see if they think it is a big deal.

    Basic rule should be an estimate value of the house x 3 - if they don't sue. x 6 if you have to sue. Because emotional losses are far bigger than the physical ones.

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    1. Re:Not a big deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Given that it was a house with floors ripped out, parts of the ceiling and roof missing completely open to the sky I'm going to assume that anything that was still in the house probably had zero value as a result and it really was not a big deal. Providing the house gets rebuilt. The demo guys may have even done them a favour. Large scale repairs are often harder and take longer than groundup rebuilds.

      But then everyone in this discussion seems to be making a lot of assumptions including TFA which claims a suit is likely because of what the CEO said instead of what the company has done.

    2. Re:Not a big deal? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Insurance company? Why do you think a fucktard who runs such a slack outfit bothers with things like insurance?

      I wouldn't be surprised if his business has zero assets (all the equipment & vehicles being leased from a totally separate company owned by his cat).

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    3. Re:Not a big deal? by Nethead · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I tried that shit back in the 70s. Mostly found a lot of psychos that didn't give shit about anything or suckers of those fuckers. Fuck, I'd take your average Scientologist over them. Unless they are a psycho Scientologist like Miscavige. Fuck Miscavige, that fucking mind fucking fuck of an asshole fucker.(Not to say ass fucking is bad per se, just that any ass fucking by Miscavige is rape.)

      Are we clear on this?

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  8. As Ronald Reagan said about the Soviets... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    "Trust, but verify." The same thing could be said about Google Maps.

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    1. Re:As Ronald Reagan said about the Soviets... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was a Russian proverb they taught HIM.

      You're right that it was a Russian proverb, but it was taught to him by one of his advisors. He would say it repeatedly whenever he met with the Russians just so they didn't get any sneaky ideas.

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  9. self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll get modded down for this, but remember this is the same technology that's supposed to be giving us self-driving cars within the next five years.

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    1. Re:self driving cars by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      There's a difference between driving a car and knowing where to go. This problem is the same whether it's a self-driving car or a demolition truck (well, the scale of the problem is different).

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    2. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's a difference between driving a car and knowing where to go.

      Currently, Google's self-driving car depends on creating a very detailed 3d map of the world. More detail here. I don't like to link to Wired, but they got an exclusive interview, and it confirms what I just wrote. So no, practically there isn't a difference.

      So for a self-driving car to work, there are two choices: either figure out how to make better maps, or create a much smarter car than the one they have now. It has to work a lot better than the Google maps currently does.

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    3. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 2
      For clarity, here's the critical paragraph:

      the car isn’t just seeing and figuring out the world as it drives along. It’s basing its actions on vast amounts of data the Google Self-Driving Car Project has already compiled about every road it travels. Before the car drives itself into new territory, the project team collects detailed information on permanent features: lane markers, the precise location of the curbs, the height of traffic lights, local speed limits, and so forth.

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  10. "not a big deal" translation... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    "we have insurance to cover the fuck ups our crew does all the time. and those people will never get their stuff back..."

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  11. Sounds like the story i heard from my friend by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

    In his version that he observed, the locals who sit in the pub and drink all day got a contract. They went out to tear down a porch after having one more drink. They came back to his pub shaking and needing another drink talking about tearing down the wrong porch. All I can think is that his neighbor will be complaining about the guys who didn't tear down his and asking who his neighbor got to tear down his.

  12. What counts as a big deal? by david_thornley · · Score: 2

    From TFS: "The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as 'not a big deal.'" In what sense is tearing down the wrong house not a big deal?

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    1. Re:What counts as a big deal? by Gordo_1 · · Score: 2

      I'm sure as the demolition company CEO, he's in a good position to determine what a big deal is. We should just trust him at his word. /s

  13. Skin Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You think contractors demoing the wrong house is bad? There's been many cases where people have gone in for surgery and they've removed or operated on the wrong limb!! Crazy!
     
    I work at a place that distributes medical supplies and one of the things we sell is 'skin markers', just small markers to write things like "THIS ARM" on patients before operations. It was such a problem that they actually had to come up with a solution for it to stop happening!

    1. Re:Skin Markers by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Aha," says the surgeon. "So this is the thumb that has something wrong with it?" Ka-chop.

      He made it too easy. Should've written "The other thumb is not the incorrect one." Everybody loves logic puzzles!

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    2. Re:Skin Markers by meerling · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you suggesting that as a rule of thumb?

  14. And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple years back the wife and I were driving in NV, from Topaz Lake to Hawthorne, over a very dirt-track-across-the-desert, scraped every couple years (but still an official state route), road.

    As we approached Hawthorne, going through a pass in a range of hills, the nav system told us to turn left about a mile early and take a little road that went a couple car lengths and then off a cliff, maybe a couple hundred feet high.

    Seems there had been an old road there, back in the pony-express days, which had gone away nn a landslide long ago. We're guessing the USGS still showed it, the map company had included it in their database, and the nav system had computed it could save us a couple tenths of a mile by taking the shortcut.

    Fortunately we are aware of such pathologies, especially in remote areas, and were on the alert for it.

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    1. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Chas · · Score: 2

      ...and then off a cliff, maybe a couple hundred feet high.

      Damn...

      Shit like this is why you never, never NEVER trust your GPS and turn your head off.

      The worst GPS has ever done me is send me down a county route in a truck too big for it.
      Next worst was directing me a mile out of my way east from a light, make an elaborate U-turn, then come back up to a place that was directly kitty-corner WEST of the light.

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    2. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Nethead · · Score: 2

      Yeah, back when I was doing DirecTV installs deep in rural Snohomish county Google maps would try to route me down fenced off high tension line inspection "roads." This was also the time back in 2006ish when there were a lot of new roads planned and on the map but never actually built because of the housing bust. I just went back to the paper map book from 2002.

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  15. Obligitory Dilbert by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Insightful
  16. Re:Had to be said - Apple Maps does not have this by david_thornley · · Score: 2

    Apple Maps has improved considerably since introduction. I find it quite usable now, at least where I go. You're probably talking about when they introduced it, apparently having decided that geographical information systems really couldn't be that hard.

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