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Wrecking Crew Demolishes Wrong Housing Duplex Following Google Maps Error (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader writes: A demolition company has leveled the wrong housing duplex after one of its employees was misled by a Google Maps error. Instead of bringing down a house destroyed by a tornado in Rowlett, Texas at 7601 Cousteau Drive, the wrecking crew demolished another home at 7601 and 7603 Calypso Drive, a block away. Owners of the second house were waiting for their house to be repaired, since it didn't suffer major damages in the tornado. The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as "not a big deal." The wrecking crew used Google Maps to find the house to demolish because they were brought in from a neighboring town, but failed to double-check with a neighbor before starting their work. A Google engineer confirmed that Google Maps was showing the wrong information.

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  1. Probably in the EULA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "All information contained with Google Maps is provided for Entertainment purposes only and should not be relied upon for complete accuracy, up to and including: GPS guidance for self-guided weapons systems, Pizza Delivery, and House Demolition."

    1. Re:Probably in the EULA by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      I never rely on street numbers in maps apps. It may have improved since I cared (circa 2006), but in my experience it's at best interpolated data from a variety of sources that may not be 100% accurate.

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    2. Re:Probably in the EULA by Megane · · Score: 1

      In one neighborhood where I grew up, Google street maps has the house numbers increasing southward when they should be increasing northward. It's the only block of the street, the numbering starts with 1, and it's pretty long, with at least 20 half-acre lots along both sides. I'm going to guess that the other parallel streets in the neighborhood are similarly misnumbered.

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    3. Re:Probably in the EULA by hjf · · Score: 1

      In my city (Resistencia, Argentina) google has *ALL* of the house numbers wrong. "Even numbers on the right hand, odd numbers on the left" is the standard. But google, for some reason, has the opposite. So, Google Street View shows my business as the house across the street.

      Of course, GOOD FUCKING LUCK trying to change that.

    4. Re:Probably in the EULA by Wing_Zero · · Score: 1

      Same here, bottom right, "send feedback" I use it all the time, I’ve sent a few dozen corrections, and i get a email in a couple days thanking me for helping.

    5. Re:Probably in the EULA by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Clearly, google drove their vehicles the other way down every street, so they were trying to follow your convention...next time, also tell them which way to drive...

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    6. Re: Probably in the EULA by shitzu · · Score: 1

      Well. I have tried to fix the error i am having with my business on google maps.

      Its an extremely strange one - google maps finds the business at the correct address. The pin is in the right place. But - and here it goes weird - if you click for driving directions, it takes you to a different location (our previous address from 5 years ago). If you zoom out, it is even visible that the route does not end on the pin, but elsewhere. But no one does that and people drive to the wrong address all the time. It is the same on mobile and web google maps.

      I have contacted google repeatedly. Google my business support finally bounced it to maps team, and that does not have any support, but only "feedback" (which i have left repeatedly). Meanwhile our customers are directed to a wrong place.

    7. Re:Probably in the EULA by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      Google does not deserve your help! They've got plenty of money to pay some schlub to fix it. Why should you work for a for-profit corporation for free?

      If you want to volunteer to help improve maps, contribute to OpenStreetMap instead!

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    8. Re:Probably in the EULA by hjf · · Score: 1

      I already have, but still no answer. I can move the marker on my business though.

  2. This is straight from a scene from by kungfuj35u5 · · Score: 1

    stranger than fiction. Except for the Google part.

    1. Re:This is straight from a scene from by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Not that strange. I had a one-day IT contract assignment at a building next to a freeway. Google Maps guided me to the general area but I couldn't find the building. None of the buildings had addresses that were visible from the street or painted on the curb. The addresses were clearly visible from the freeway. I had to drive into the parking lot each building to discover the address.

    2. Re:This is straight from a scene from by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      No. He means the movie, Stranger Than Fiction.

    3. Re: This is straight from a scene from by kungfuj35u5 · · Score: 1

      You must be new to Slashdot, that was tradition pretty much forever.

  3. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Seems like you should be using official zoning maps from the city for something like this...

    1. Re: WTF? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      or, y'know, check the demolition permit taped to the front door? I don't care who issues those permits, per se, but a crew needs to at least verify that.

      One project I managed involved a demo - there was a ton of paperwork and I had to sign papers, on-site, as owner-representative before the excavator started in.

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    2. Re: WTF? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      "per se"? Huh?

      He paid the workers in Mexican pesos instead of American dollars. Cheapskate.

    3. Re:WTF? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Seems like you should be using official zoning maps from the city for something like this...

      Hell no! Nobody else was looking at the zoning maps. The number on the street, mailbox, etc., is more likely the source of info they used to start with. Grabbing a city map, which was updated to show news housing numbers, possibly years before the post office and homeowners have updated their own information, is a more likely recipe for disaster than what happened here.

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    4. Re: WTF? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

      He didn't spell it "per say". He's in the top quartile just for that.

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    5. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My local governments use GIS systems that contain current and accurate parcel information.

      Use an official source, hopefully not one stuck in the dark ages of paper maps

    6. Re:WTF? by aix+tom · · Score: 3, Funny

      And Yes... there was such a time as Before Google Maps, hard as it may seem to imagine.

      Ah, someone else who remembers Mapquest. ;-P

    7. Re: WTF? by Ken+D · · Score: 1

      where does "percy" or "pursay" land you?

    8. Re: WTF? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think I'm this instance both houses were badly storm damaged so they probably just saw something that looked like it was condemned and got on with it. It might actually save the "victim" money if they get a free demolition and can skip straight to rebuilding.

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    9. Re:WTF? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      And trip scheduling software used GIS-generated mapping then, and it worked very well.

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    10. Re:WTF? by mowchine · · Score: 1

      +1 What incompetent fuck uses google for this. I am reminded of the time our finance department tried to screw people out of mileage when they would use google maps to calculate the distance between point A and point B. Legal had to explain to them that google maps is not a certified resource.

    11. Re:WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're definitely a good source, but they're not to be trusted blindly. I work in GIS and have seen some pretty severe errors, typos in IDs, misread descriptions, switched up records, etc. And that is with a GIS that really cares about eliminating errors. I've seen some GIS departments that don't fret if their lines are off by a 50' when the lots themselves are only 66' wide. I've even seen a case where two properties next to each other sold by the same company two different individuals had their deed descriptions switched up and the individuals were actually occupying the others property. Buildings to be demoed should be clearly marked for several weeks before hand (unless the owner is on site and confirms), if they aren't clearly marked no demo work today. As I would like to tell people (but of course can't), "if you blindly follow these maps you are a moron and you deserve the chaos which may follow."

    12. Re:WTF? by jbengt · · Score: 1

      Nope. Using those government maps won't get you off the hook. Typically, you need a survey by a licensed surveyor submitted and approved by the building dept. Even then, I know of a guy who couldnt move into his condo because it turned out half of his apartment was built on the next door neighbors property.

    13. Re: WTF? by GNious · · Score: 1

      From watching Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, it seems that it's pretty trivial to tear down houses :)

      Of cause, I'm not sure I'd want to live in the things they put up afterwards, but that's just me.

    14. Re:WTF? by jbengt · · Score: 1

      That won't work, either. NY city won a case against a developer who relied on their zoning map to start construction on a building several stories high. Even though they had a permit, and the zoning map said it could be that high, someone noticed that the steel skeleton was getting higher than allowed by the actual zoning ordinance (as opposed to the map) so the city made them dismantle a story or two.

    15. Re:WTF? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      My experience is data quality is always a challenge. Even commercial sources can have errors (free or volunteer sources more so), so I believe that a basic audit is always important before proceeding with any critical work.

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    16. Re: WTF? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      According to TFA (or at least one of TFAs about it; I read it elsewhere) the duplex in question was not badly damaged enough to be worth tearing down.

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    17. Re:WTF? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Seems like you should be using official zoning maps from the city for something like this...

      Obviously the demolisher uses Android, because Apple Maps and MapQuest actually have the right location for it. (No, Google Maps isn't perfect, and Apple Maps is way better now than a few years ago. In fact, Google Maps is just "good enough" but there are plenty of errors on it still).

    18. Re: WTF? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      It is also right in TFS...

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  4. Doesn't anybody double check? by Snotnose · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How hard would it be to go to the nearest intersection and make sure you're on the right street, and double check the street address?

    I think the (former) homeowners should get to stay in "not a big deal"'s house until new houses are built. "Not a big deal" can live in a tent on the construction site.

    1. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by twotacocombo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How hard would it be to go to the nearest intersection and make sure you're on the right street, and double check the street address?

      According to Google maps, Cousteau turns into Calypso, and street view verifies this. The streets form a loop, and there is only one set of signs in that area, in a non-intersection corner where one street name arbitrarily turns into the other. Due to the tornado, this sign pole may not even currently exist. I can completely see where the confusion lies with this situation. While the demo crew are at fault for lack of due diligence, who's the fucking imbecile at the city planning office that approved the same exact street number for two houses within spitting distance of each other on what is essentially the same street?

    2. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Close to where I live, there's a street which starts in one town and runs into another town. Street name does not change at the town border. #1 is neighbours with... #1. Those people get each other's mail and visitors all the time. Nobody saw that one coming.

    3. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There's brain dead mouth breathers working in the planning department of every city. I remember going to a party of a hot girl I met at uni once. She told me she lived in 65 somethingorother street. Anyway I got to the street and drove all the way to the end and it only went up to 40. I was pretty pissed to get blown off like that.

      Turns out after a few minutes of swearing at the situation that the street continued with the same name and continuous numbering one block further down. Two different streets in the same suburb with the same name.

    4. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by hey! · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you're correct, which is why in my neck of the woods you can't just roll up to a house, say, "this looks like it", and start tearing it down. You need to get a permit.

      The permit application requires a photo of the house you intend to take down. You have to prove you know what you're doing, e.g., that you've had the utilities, especially gas turned off. You have to have a pest control company eradicate any rats nesting in the structure that might move onto adjacent properties. You've got to notify the police and fire department well in advance and if they determine there is a public risk or nuisance you've got to pay for a police and/or fire detail. Then you've got to notify all the abutters by certified ail and post a demolition notice on the actual structure to be demolished seven days in advance.

      Yeah, it's a lot of rigamarole, and I'm sure people in much of the rest of the country can't imagine living under that much regulation. On the other hand, we can't imagine having our house demolished by mistake. And somehow developers still manage to make a living, so I don't think it's too much to ask..

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    5. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by starblazer · · Score: 3, Funny

      It should be a requirement for any developer, house builder, or city planning department to be a delivery person for at least 6 months. You will see the end of stupid addressing and small, hard to make out numbers REAL quick.

      This rant brought to you by someone who has also been mistaken as Mr. Amazon.com man this past winter.

    6. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by twotacocombo · · Score: 1

      There's brain dead mouth breathers working in the planning department of every city.... Two different streets in the same suburb with the same name.

      I work in the San Fernando Valley, which is in the northern reaches of Los Angeles city. We've got some streets here that are broken into 30 different parts, and all have the same name because they run roughly in a line. Check out Lurline Ave, Superior St, or Mayall St for shits and giggles.

    7. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by idji · · Score: 1

      Have a look at Cortez Street here. It has a CANYON in the middle of it!! Typical for this area.
      Cortez Street

    8. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the mess at Corbin & Nordhoff where we have Nordhoff St, Nordhoff Pl, and Nordhoff Way.

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    9. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Or an ambulance driver. At least with deliveries, when they screw up, the only thing cold is your pizza.

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    10. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I hated those types of addresses when I delivered for UPS (long before GPS). It always struck me how haphazard city planners could be.

      Another fun one is the N/S or E/W street that is segmented into many non-contiguous streets. You would have to guess at where the number breaks were based on the perpendicular roads. If you missed it, you would have to drive back out and all the way around to find where the next segment of the same street picked up again... real PITA.

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    11. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Man... I would have to imagine that they are in different zip codes, otherwise that is essentially 2 identical addresses as far as mailing systems are concerned.

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    12. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by FlyHelicopters · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's a lot of rigamarole

      No, actually it all sounds quite reasonable.

      There SHOULD be strong protections in place before you start driving around and tearing down homes.

      A professional demo company shouldn't have any issues with what you posted.

    13. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by jnork · · Score: 1

      The house we ended up buying in Wyndmoor, PA was on a street like that. Took us half an hour to find it the first time because not only were there two discontinuities, but at one point the street turned and intersected with the main street. I spotted the correct street name while driving around and quite naturally turned onto it... and got completely sidetracked. At least these days a decent GPS will make that less likely to happen.

      On a different but related note, the neighborhood I grew up in had the house numbers run up one side and down the other. For years I that was normal... but it drove visitors to the street absolutely insane. I think most of them didn't see the pattern and thought the house numbers were random or something.

      What made it even worse was when they extended the street and re-started the house numbers from the next hundred, but I'm not sure what numbering scheme they used. So the house numbers went from 105 on the right side incrementally to about 114, then jumped into the 200s. But start from the left side and it counted from something like 124 backwards to 115, then jumped to the 200s and... I'm not sure how they counted. Second new house on the left was 227.

      Eventually they renumbered the entire street odd/even starting at 3 on the right side... my old address was 109 and is now 7. 227 is now 22. Took years for Google Maps to catch up.

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    14. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      This is VERY common in the Phoenix area. Camelback Drive goes from west of the city center through the Biltmore district (very nice) all the way into the Salt River Reservation (not so nice to us gringos, a nice place to live if you live there). It's interrupted for more than a half mile in some places. You have to pay attention to Google Maps.

      Now, Siri will send you uphill sometimes when there is. no. hill. But that's entertainment.

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    15. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Most every numbered street (mostly Avenues, it seems) in Phoenix has a corresponding way, place, and circle. Add in the complimentary North for South, East for West, and it's logical but sometimes a bit confusing.

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    16. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Rat evictions?

      There is such a thing as too much. You need to stop feeding them, intentionally or not. Let them move in peace.

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    17. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by Megane · · Score: 1

      In San Antonio there are quite a few major streets that do this. In the northeast, just try tracing where Nacogdoches Road goes. A lot of these happen because of roads that had an intersection built where there used to be a curve, so now you have to make a turn at the intersection to stay on the same road.

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    18. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Don't bet on it. At least where I live zip codes don't follow city boundaries.

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    19. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Sometimes history gets in the way of sense. Around where I live there are at least three intermittent streets, and not too far away there's a street called "street of the fea" (in Spanish) because it jumps around so much. It goes jumping around for about 30 miles, but there's no one connected section that's very long. It must be over 100 years old with that name in that many different places, and it must have been quite jumpy even then. And I've no idea when it was originally created or why, but I'm guessing that it was important enough that when there were land slides, people just found a way to keep traveling...but not important enough that anybody ever straightened it out.

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    20. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Every city has those.

      In Ottawa there is St. Laurent Blvd which if you keep going straight it turns into Russell Road. If you want to stay on St. Laurent you actually have to make a right turn at a light. Then there is Somerset which turns into Wellington which turns into Richmond which turns into Robertson but you can stay on Richmond if you turn left (though they call it Old Richmond Road).

      It's just how all the old villages grew together. They didn't rename the roads they connected at the time because they didn't want to inconvenience anyone but now they are confusing people unfamiliar to the area for generations.

    21. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      There's a business park in Denver where *EVERY FUCKING STREET* is named "South Park". I'm not kidding. Circle, lane, drive, street, road, ... you name it.

      Lockheed Martin has a facility in this area. My first business trip there, I literally had to call my contact and have him come and get me, I got so lost.

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    22. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by Aczlan · · Score: 1

      The road I live on goes through towns A and B. There are three sections.
      Section 1: In Town A, in the zip code for Town A - Road named for City A 15 minutes down the road.
      Section 2: In Town B, in the zip code for Town A (there are 3-4 miles like that) - Road named for the State Route number.
      Section 3: In Town B, in the zip code for Town B - Road named for the State Route number.
      I live in Section 2 (Town A mailing address, but physically in Town B). People who use their GPS to find out house frequently end up at our house number in Section 1 or 3. We also occasionally get mail for people in Section 1.
      I have tried to get Google to fix it, but they seem to have no interest (or perhaps they think I am messing with them?).

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    23. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by L.+J.+Beauregard · · Score: 1

      I'm sure people in much of the rest of the country can't imagine living under that much regulation.

      Forget it, Jake, it's Texas.

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    24. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      My neighborhood is old enough to be built with a street grid (as opposed to the tree-like network that idiotically funnels all the traffic onto an arterial road to get anywhere, common in subdivisions built after the '50s). The houses along every parallel street are numbered the same way. For example, 1000 11th Street is one block south of 1000 12th Street, which is one block south of 1000 13th Street, etc. This scheme is perfectly reasonable: it's a grid, after all; what else would you expect?!

      The only weirdness here was that two streets that were supposed to be parallel curved to intersect each other.

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    25. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Atlanta is infamous for naming everything "Peachtree." Peachtree Street, Peachtree Road, Peachtree Industrial Boulevard, Peachtree Parkway, West Peachtree Street, Peachtree Circle, Peachtree Center Avenue, Peachtree Battle Avenue, Peachtree Hills Avenue, Peachtree Memorial Drive, etc.

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    26. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It's just how all the old villages grew together. They didn't rename the roads they connected at the time because they didn't want to inconvenience anyone but now they are confusing people unfamiliar to the area for generations.

      That's not always the reason. Sometimes (especially in the South back in the '50s) they used to take roads that had the same name for their entire length and intentionally rename part of them. Why? So you could tell when you were crossing from the white neighborhood to the black neighborhood, of course!

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    27. Re: Doesn't anybody double check? by alcmena · · Score: 1

      Same thing happens by Disney in FL. There's two intersecting roads, both named Celebration Pl (makes the crosswalk buttons fun since both buttons say, "Press to cross Celebration Pl"). Celebration Pl then intersects with Celebration Blvd on one end and Celebration Ave on the other. It's awesome since many GPS systems ignore or won't let you put in the suffix.

    28. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      There is such a thing as too much. You need to stop feeding them, intentionally or not. Let them move in peace.

      Fuck that. I lived next to a big field that got developed and we got madly overrun by rodents. Where you can actually control that kind of thing, you should.

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    29. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      OK, a typo for flea. But fea would be a reasonable spelling of the pronunciation of vieh (cow) which is probably what made the street in the first place.

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    30. Re:Doesn't anybody double check? by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      I was thinking they should demo the CEO's house. See if he thinks it's a big deal then.

      Having lost the house I grew up in to a fire, there's nothing like it. You never forget it.

  5. well, it was Nabors Demolition by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Funny

    and they demolished the neighbors.

    1. Re:well, it was Nabors Demolition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you read the article, it has a link to the demolition company's web site. The site still has contact information on it, along with the hideously juicy slogan, "We could wreck the world," which they did for these unfortunate folks.

  6. It wasn't a Google Maps error by hawguy · · Score: 2

    It wasn't a Google Maps error, it was a "failure to identify the address error" by the crew. When you're doing something as destructive as tearing down a house, take a look at the street sign and make sure it matches the address on the work order. Don't blindly follow your GPS.

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    https://youtu.be/n5lbShWEGQ0

    1. Re:It wasn't a Google Maps error by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Given they were in an area ripped apart by a tornado what makes you certain that there were still street signs in the area?

      Though I do agree the thought that someone is doing demolition based on a 3rd party map rather than the town's own official zoning map scares me.

    2. Re:It wasn't a Google Maps error by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Don't count on the official town map. There's an industrial-area roadway near where I used to live that ran for a few miles with no connection to other streets - except for the one on the official city street map that didn't actually exist.

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  7. In the demolisher's defense by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Funny

    Both the houses were white with shingle roofs.

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    1. Re:In the demolisher's defense by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      In the demolisher's defense... Both the houses were white with shingle roofs.

      And yet they were on different streets...

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    2. Re:In the demolisher's defense by Walter+White · · Score: 1

      Not any more. ;)

    3. Re:In the demolisher's defense by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Same physical street, with different street names for different sections. As an ex-taxi driver I can confirm that, regardless of the kind of map you are using, it is very easy to find the wrong address. There should have been a second, more reliable, identifier for the demolition, eg: a demolition notice pinned to the front door.

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  8. Street sign by Eyezen · · Score: 1

    Does Rowlett, Tx not have street signs? Google maps is but a back story, up front is the incompentence of the crew and/or company procedures...Checking with a "neighbor" is their backup?

    1. Re:Street sign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      maybe the signs were damaged due to the tornado?

    2. Re:Street sign by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Does Rowlett, Tx not have street signs?

      I'd be surprised if Rowlett, TX had indoor plumbing. They had street signs back in the '50s, but they been shot up so bad by drunk teenagers that they're no longer legible.

      On the plus side, I bet it's easy to get meth down there.

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    3. Re:Street sign by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Meth labs need indoor plumbing as much as their operators.

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    4. Re: Street sign by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Read my post fully and carefully...

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  9. Not a big deal? by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is not the first time this has happened.

    I think by law, that whenever this happens, the company 's owner should have their house destroyed - along with all of their personal photos, keepsakes and see if they think it is a big deal.

    Basic rule should be an estimate value of the house x 3 - if they don't sue. x 6 if you have to sue. Because emotional losses are far bigger than the physical ones.

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    1. Re:Not a big deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Informative

      Given that it was a house with floors ripped out, parts of the ceiling and roof missing completely open to the sky I'm going to assume that anything that was still in the house probably had zero value as a result and it really was not a big deal. Providing the house gets rebuilt. The demo guys may have even done them a favour. Large scale repairs are often harder and take longer than groundup rebuilds.

      But then everyone in this discussion seems to be making a lot of assumptions including TFA which claims a suit is likely because of what the CEO said instead of what the company has done.

    2. Re:Not a big deal? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      the company 's owner should have their house destroyed - along with all of their personal photos, keepsakes and see if they think it is a big deal.

      Your flippant reaction is misplaced. I sincerely doubt there was anything of value left in that duplex:

      From TFA: "the tornado busted the house's windows, ripped the floor and tore away some part of the ceiling, leaving some portions exposed to the sky."

      Sound like a place you'd be leaving your family photos (unguarded while you're living elsewhere)?

      Of course if there was anything of value inside the house, that might have clued-in the demolition crew to their mistake in the first place.

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    3. Re:Not a big deal? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Yes, because 'an eye for an eye' style revenge on an innocent mistake is the "right thing to do". Nobody will be going to court to fix this, the relevant insurance companies will work that out between themselves on a more civilised manner.

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    4. Re:Not a big deal? by dasgoober · · Score: 1

      The CEO and his company should be sued for the cost to re-build the house.
      Will it be "no big deal" then?

    5. Re:Not a big deal? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      The homeowners should get paid for the damage the demolition company did. Exactly how this is done is irrelevant (and needing a lawsuit for this would be inefficient).

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    6. Re:Not a big deal? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Insurance company? Why do you think a fucktard who runs such a slack outfit bothers with things like insurance?

      I wouldn't be surprised if his business has zero assets (all the equipment & vehicles being leased from a totally separate company owned by his cat).

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    7. Re:Not a big deal? by Solandri · · Score: 1

      I think by law, that whenever this happens, the company 's owner should have their house destroyed - along with all of their personal photos, keepsakes and see if they think it is a big deal.

      What if the company owner implements an official policy is to triple check all paperwork, house numbers, road signs, knock on the neighbors' doors to confirm they've got the right street. And the error is made because an employee is lazy and decides to skip some of these checks?

      While it's fun to fantasize about revenge which satisfies your sense of Schadenfreude, the reality is that costs aren't absorbed, they're merely shifted. If you compound the cost of an erroneous demolition by forcing another unnecessary demolition, the cost of that second demolition will just be priced into the original demolitions. Basically, the people who need to have a home demolished have to pay for the penalty you're trying to foist upon the demolition company owner.

    8. Re:Not a big deal? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      "anything that was still in the house probably had zero value"

      Not really your decision, B.O.

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    9. Re:Not a big deal? by Nethead · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I tried that shit back in the 70s. Mostly found a lot of psychos that didn't give shit about anything or suckers of those fuckers. Fuck, I'd take your average Scientologist over them. Unless they are a psycho Scientologist like Miscavige. Fuck Miscavige, that fucking mind fucking fuck of an asshole fucker.(Not to say ass fucking is bad per se, just that any ass fucking by Miscavige is rape.)

      Are we clear on this?

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    10. Re: Not a big deal? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the poor beset demo crew, suffering embarrassment for their mistake.

      They can go home and sleep in their beds.

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    11. Re:Not a big deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Not really your decision, B.O.

      Indeed. Nor is it the grandparents. ... Wait did you just make another assumption? Better add that to the list of shit we don't know but comment on anyway. I think I'm going to need another page now.

    12. Re: Not a big deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the poor beset demo crew, suffering embarrassment for their mistake.

      Yet another assumption (that anyone was deprived of a bed). You're on a roll.

    13. Re: Not a big deal? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      I assumed that since none of what was lost was yours, your opinion didn't matter. And mine was is your opinion...

      Pleeze, correct me. You're good at that.

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    14. Re: Not a big deal? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I assumed that since none of what was lost

      There's another assumption right there which is more core than any other you've made so far.

  10. As Ronald Reagan said about the Soviets... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    "Trust, but verify." The same thing could be said about Google Maps.

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    1. Re:As Ronald Reagan said about the Soviets... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was a Russian proverb they taught HIM.

      You're right that it was a Russian proverb, but it was taught to him by one of his advisors. He would say it repeatedly whenever he met with the Russians just so they didn't get any sneaky ideas.

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  11. using internet to make decisions? by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    what next?
    using wikipedia to learn about economic and military condition of a country and its historical and cultural background, before invading? or to write academic papers that goes in to those decisions by people who used wikipedia to pass examinations?
    using twitter to allocate and channel emergency resources during emergency?
    etc etc

    would be funny if these things are not already happening.

    using a restricted (formal, as in twitter with its "trust & safety council" censorship, or informal as in language cultural, and Internet penetration, barriers in wikipedia and twitter ) sources to make decisions will always end badly.

  12. Re:Measure once... by sims+2 · · Score: 1

    That's a good question did they charge extra to demolish the right house since they demolished the wrong one by accident?

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  13. self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll get modded down for this, but remember this is the same technology that's supposed to be giving us self-driving cars within the next five years.

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    1. Re:self driving cars by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      There's a difference between driving a car and knowing where to go. This problem is the same whether it's a self-driving car or a demolition truck (well, the scale of the problem is different).

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    2. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's a difference between driving a car and knowing where to go.

      Currently, Google's self-driving car depends on creating a very detailed 3d map of the world. More detail here. I don't like to link to Wired, but they got an exclusive interview, and it confirms what I just wrote. So no, practically there isn't a difference.

      So for a self-driving car to work, there are two choices: either figure out how to make better maps, or create a much smarter car than the one they have now. It has to work a lot better than the Google maps currently does.

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    3. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 2
      For clarity, here's the critical paragraph:

      the car isn’t just seeing and figuring out the world as it drives along. It’s basing its actions on vast amounts of data the Google Self-Driving Car Project has already compiled about every road it travels. Before the car drives itself into new territory, the project team collects detailed information on permanent features: lane markers, the precise location of the curbs, the height of traffic lights, local speed limits, and so forth.

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    4. Re:self driving cars by shawn2772 · · Score: 1

      So for a self-driving car to work, there are two choices: either figure out how to make better maps, or create a much smarter car than the one they have now.

      Or, option 3, only self-drive in known areas. Yes, this will somewhat limit the vehicle's utility, but not very much, and it would know whether there's a potential problem as soon as you set the destination.

    5. Re:self driving cars by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Yes, the technology took them to the wrong address but it didn't knock the house down. So a self driving car takes you to the wrong house. It's not that big of a deal. Those things will happen and there will be methods for the maps to be corrected. Emergency vehicles are still going to have a person driving, or at lease an over-ride system, so peoples lives won't be put at risk.

    6. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yes, the technology took them to the wrong address but it didn't knock the house down. So a self driving car takes you to the wrong house.

      You clearly haven't looked much at the technology for self-driving cars. The maps need to be so detailed, that if the map is wrong, it could drive off the street completely. Seriously go educate yourself before commenting again, you moron.

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    7. Re:self driving cars by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      You clearly haven't looked at the technology since they only use the maps in the exact same manner as the GPS systems you have in the cars today. They have sensors to keep the car on the road Sherlock. Maybe that's why all of the self driving cars are using the existing maps and aren't running off the roads. Maps won't tell you about other traffic, construction, changes to the road network that haven't been updated, etc. And I'm the moron?

    8. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      And I'm the moron?

      Yes you are!

      You clearly haven't looked at the technology since they only use the maps in the exact same manner as the GPS systems you have in the cars today.

      And this quote proves it beyond doubt! I posted links in other comments on this story that prove you wrong, but you won't read them, lol. Piss off, idiot.

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    9. Re:self driving cars by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Wow, you've convinced me with your superior debating skills.

      (That was a sarcastic remark because I'm sure that someone who hasn't gotten out of elementary school probably couldn't recognize it.)

    10. Re:self driving cars by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The thing that most fascinates me about you is that finding the right answer is so easy, and yet you still refuse to do it. I'll even give you a link to the place where you can relieve yourself of ignorance, just so I can enjoy the pure spectacle of watching you refuse to learn.

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    11. Re:self driving cars by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      I could see politicians using this defense. I told the google car to take me to a party that my wife was at, not to the prostitute's place where they were doing meth and was busted by the cops.

    12. Re:self driving cars by toddestan · · Score: 1

      Well, Google's proposing cars with no pedals or a steering wheel. Which brings up an interesting question - if said car delivers you to the wrong place but insists it's at the right place, how can you tell the car "no, it's three blocks over"?

  14. "not a big deal" translation... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    "we have insurance to cover the fuck ups our crew does all the time. and those people will never get their stuff back..."

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  15. Sounds like the story i heard from my friend by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

    In his version that he observed, the locals who sit in the pub and drink all day got a contract. They went out to tear down a porch after having one more drink. They came back to his pub shaking and needing another drink talking about tearing down the wrong porch. All I can think is that his neighbor will be complaining about the guys who didn't tear down his and asking who his neighbor got to tear down his.

  16. What counts as a big deal? by david_thornley · · Score: 2

    From TFS: "The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as 'not a big deal.'" In what sense is tearing down the wrong house not a big deal?

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    1. Re:What counts as a big deal? by Gordo_1 · · Score: 2

      I'm sure as the demolition company CEO, he's in a good position to determine what a big deal is. We should just trust him at his word. /s

    2. Re:What counts as a big deal? by Lisias · · Score: 1

      From TFS: "The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as 'not a big deal.'" In what sense is tearing down the wrong house not a big deal?

      Demolishing the wrong 20 stories building, as did by his predecessor.

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    3. Re:What counts as a big deal? by Required+Snark · · Score: 1
      Somebody had to say it.

      1. Tear down the wrong house.

      2. ???

      3. Profit!

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    4. Re:What counts as a big deal? by Livius · · Score: 1

      There's something particularly scary about a CEO saying something like this.

      Not a CEO *feeling* that way - that's a given - but being so clueless about the PR situation as to say it out loud.

    5. Re:What counts as a big deal? by sjames · · Score: 1

      It's still a pretty big deal to the people who expected to see their house and found an empty field. Perhaps you mean "It could have been worse".

    6. Re:What counts as a big deal? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      He believes that his insurance company is going to cover the cost?

  17. Skin Markers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You think contractors demoing the wrong house is bad? There's been many cases where people have gone in for surgery and they've removed or operated on the wrong limb!! Crazy!
     
    I work at a place that distributes medical supplies and one of the things we sell is 'skin markers', just small markers to write things like "THIS ARM" on patients before operations. It was such a problem that they actually had to come up with a solution for it to stop happening!

    1. Re:Skin Markers by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I had a friend who had a weird cancer under his thumbnail, and before getting his thumb amputated, he wrote "WRONG THUMB" on the one without the cancer. The nurse said that was a good idea. (His wife made him a strap-on curtain hook for his thumb. He said it made people uncomfortable when he wore it to work.)

      I had eye surgery that I was conscious for, and the doctor, who'd been treating the condition and knew perfectly well which eye needed the surgery, made sure to confirm that the good eye had been taped shut before starting up the laser.

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    2. Re:Skin Markers by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Aha," says the surgeon. "So this is the thumb that has something wrong with it?" Ka-chop.

      He made it too easy. Should've written "The other thumb is not the incorrect one." Everybody loves logic puzzles!

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    3. Re:Skin Markers by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      They committed a range of criminal offences least of which is trespass. They should be criminally charged being an incompetence idiot is no excuse to break the law. So break and enter and demolish, I'll bet anything you like they also stole a bunch of stuff. Might seem a little unfair but idiots who do stupid things should be taught the consequences of not stopping, checking and confirming. Computer made me do it, is not an excuse. Beside demanding criminal charges be filed makes the whole civil suit thing so much easier.

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    4. Re:Skin Markers by meerling · · Score: 4, Funny

      Are you suggesting that as a rule of thumb?

    5. Re:Skin Markers by mysidia · · Score: 1

      They committed a range of criminal offences least of which is trespass. They should be criminally charged being an incompetence idiot is no excuse to break the law.

      Agree.... they should be required to pay retribution, in addition to civil damages and punitive damages, and people responsible should face possible jail time.

      The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as "not a big deal."

      That further solidifies the need for state prosecutors to pursue them to the full extent of the law.....

    6. Re:Skin Markers by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      I work at a place that distributes medical supplies and one of the things we sell is 'skin markers', just small markers to write things like "THIS ARM" on patients before operations. It was such a problem that they actually had to come up with a solution for it to stop happening!

      You phrase it ("such a problem") as though it would need to happen very regularly for solution like stickers to be needed. " I doubt this is so. Yes, it does happen from time to time, but there are huge numbers of operations taking place every year and these and other errors will occur. The point is that if it happens at all (even once a year) then it's a problem. It doesn't need to be often. So a simple solution to prevent surgeons working on the wrong organ or limb is a very good idea. This can be as simple as a placing a mark on the patient's body with a pen.

    7. Re:Skin Markers by GateGuy · · Score: 1

      I have had 6 surgeries on my left knee.
      On my right knee, I once wrote "Other knee".
      Another time I wrote "Why did you look here?".

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    8. Re:Skin Markers by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      I had surgery on my penis once. I wrote on it in larger letters "This is my penis. There are many like it but this one is mine. Please be careful how you treat it". On the remaining several inches I drew a smiley face.

    9. Re:Skin Markers by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Not the phrase I would use ;)

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    10. Re:Skin Markers by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering how they missed that they turned on the wrong street, I always look at the sign when Google tells me to turn left on Main street.

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  18. Re:Had to be said - Apple Maps does not have this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bwahahahaah you're kidding, right? Apple Maps couldn't find its own ass with two hands and its own maps.

  19. No Slashdit release ance here by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Because it was a Google Maps error, not an Apple Maps error.

  20. And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple years back the wife and I were driving in NV, from Topaz Lake to Hawthorne, over a very dirt-track-across-the-desert, scraped every couple years (but still an official state route), road.

    As we approached Hawthorne, going through a pass in a range of hills, the nav system told us to turn left about a mile early and take a little road that went a couple car lengths and then off a cliff, maybe a couple hundred feet high.

    Seems there had been an old road there, back in the pony-express days, which had gone away nn a landslide long ago. We're guessing the USGS still showed it, the map company had included it in their database, and the nav system had computed it could save us a couple tenths of a mile by taking the shortcut.

    Fortunately we are aware of such pathologies, especially in remote areas, and were on the alert for it.

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    1. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Chas · · Score: 2

      ...and then off a cliff, maybe a couple hundred feet high.

      Damn...

      Shit like this is why you never, never NEVER trust your GPS and turn your head off.

      The worst GPS has ever done me is send me down a county route in a truck too big for it.
      Next worst was directing me a mile out of my way east from a light, make an elaborate U-turn, then come back up to a place that was directly kitty-corner WEST of the light.

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    2. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Megane · · Score: 1

      I take the time to find out where the hell I'm going before I ever leave. I get on Google Maps, find out where I'm going, then figure out the route myself. If the route is complicated enough (like 200 miles across west Texas, where the map looks like a graph from a CS textbook), I may even make a little skeleton map of various waypoints. I may also use the street view so that I know what a place looks like before I get there. I know the main routes around most of the big cities in the main DFW/Houston/San Antonio triangle of Texas because I used to do a lot of day-trip thrift store raids about ten years ago.

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    3. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Nethead · · Score: 2

      Yeah, back when I was doing DirecTV installs deep in rural Snohomish county Google maps would try to route me down fenced off high tension line inspection "roads." This was also the time back in 2006ish when there were a lot of new roads planned and on the map but never actually built because of the housing bust. I just went back to the paper map book from 2002.

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    4. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by Chas · · Score: 1

      The worst route I ever had was actually given out by Rand McNally the one year (as they adjust for construction).

      From Chicago to Virginia. Once I hit Pennsylvania, I got sent down roads that were technically a highway.
      The road's name changed a dozen times, twists and turns and switchbacks all over the place, and I went through every one horse town in eastern PA, WV and VA.

      For the drive back home, I picked up an actual road atlas and dead-reckoned my way back across major expressways.

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    5. Re:And Sync tried to send me over a cliff. by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      Wonder what happened if you had a 'self-driving' car i.e. if the cliff would register as a hazard and the car would come to a stop (a cliff not being on obstacle).

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  21. Obligitory Dilbert by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Insightful
  22. Re:Had to be said - Apple Maps does not have this by david_thornley · · Score: 2

    Apple Maps has improved considerably since introduction. I find it quite usable now, at least where I go. You're probably talking about when they introduced it, apparently having decided that geographical information systems really couldn't be that hard.

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  23. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    traditional the American military just carpet bombed the entire country.

  24. How did the wrecking crew do anything?!? by tlambert · · Score: 1

    How did the wrecking crew do anything?!?

    Isn't Tommy Tedesco dead?

  25. Free life advice: Take your lemons & make lemo by rakslice · · Score: 1

    A company has done something dumb to you. Would you rather:
    1) complain to the press so everyone knows that the company makes mistakes
    2) refrain from talking to the press and then negotiate a large $ settlement with which to fix the actual problem

    You are the CEO of a company that did something dumb, should you:
    1) comment to the press that this is not an extraordinary situation because you have a process in place to respond to this kind of request in due course, so that people will be impressed with how well you carry out your duties as an industrial robot
    2) make a nice statement about how this has never happened before; you work with people like this every day whose problems you are helping to solve, and it's terrible that you have created a problem instead of solving one, but you are working with your insurer to try to get the people a settlement that will fully compensate them for their loss, so that people will be impressed with how great it is that 1 out of 1 companies they know in ${your_industry} are run by such an awesome person

  26. READ IT! by Etherwalk · · Score: 1

    The article said the house was waiting for repairs. It's very possible it had a building permit that looked like a demo permit and the workers didn't bother reading it.

    When you are destroying a house, you should read the thing.

    As it is, best case is they get sued for negligence and their insurance company will pay a few hundred thousand bucks to the homeowner's insurance company. Google will also probably take a hard look at their google maps TOS and make sure that there's are an ironclad consequential damages waiver and a solid indemnity provision in there.

    1. Re:READ IT! by KGIII · · Score: 1

      It's interesting that you point that out. I went and looked and there's a Google Maps for business/work. I'd think there's a serviceability/merchantability obligation there - irrespective of any attempt to attempt to will it away UNLESS they already specifically included some such. So, unless they have a clause in there specifically granting them immunity then a jury might find them partially culpable and there's a damned good chance that they *will* be named in the lawsuit. And there will be a lawsuit. ;-)

      I'm not even sure how they'd word such a thing and I'm not going to invest the time in reading the TOS/EULA for that. I'm not going to read it tomorrow, either. I'm going to assume they've got that covered, but if they don't... It's too bad that we hardly ever hear the follow-up to these sorts of things. Of course, it can also drag out through the courts for years though I'm pretty sure somebody is in the wrong here. It might even be multiple parties. I wonder if there were any mysterious priceless family heirlooms in the one that was also destroyed? ;-)

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    2. Re:READ IT! by mysidia · · Score: 1

      I went and looked and there's a Google Maps for business/work. I'd think there's a serviceability/merchantability obligation there

      Serviceability for a publication or data product doesn't assure the data is 100% accurate or make the publisher responsible for the user's conduct. The user is responsible for their conduct, and a contractor has a duty of care to take steps to fully verify that the building is exactly the correct one, before they gain access, or begin demolition or other modification (Not just find the place on a map).

      Just like your vehicle GPS map provider doesn't have responsibility for the car accident; if you follow the GPS navigators' directions to turn the wrong way down a One-Way street and barrel head-on into a Semi truck.

      There might be a disclaimer on the GPS itself, but that's just CYA.

  27. This way or that way? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    Waverly place, in NYC's "village", crosses itself.

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    1. Re:This way or that way? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      In Milton Keynes, England, the naming convention is that the major roads are designated H<number> or V<number>; the Vs run parallel to the M1 (roughly North-South) and the Hs are at right angles to it.

      But there's a roundabout where a pair of the same kind meet at 90 degrees. Got lost there for an hour.

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    2. Re:This way or that way? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Urban planners. I suspect they are a subspecies of the reviled lawyer class. Up is down, right is left, like that.

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  28. Irresponsible and arrogant by Archtech · · Score: 1

    'The demolition company's CEO dismissed the incident as "not a big deal."'

    I sincerely hope the victims of this piece of irresponsible incompetence sue his company into bankruptcy. Of all the utterly unprofessional, lazy, useless things to do...

    Municipal authorities should also be sure to blacklist this man and any companies he is associated with so that he has no further opportunity to wreak havoc.

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  29. Updated TOS by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1

    Seriously, expect the google maps TOS to get an update over this.

  30. One more thing by sootman · · Score: 1

    Fuck the town planners, too.

    Do you REALLY need houses close to each other with matching house numbers IN THE THOUSANDS and similar street names? Fuck that.

    I live in a small subdivision at 2004 WOO******** and less than 1/4 mile away is ANOTHER house at 2004 WOO********, and less than 1/4 mile away in the other direction is another 2004. We get each other's mail ALL THE FUCKING TIME. What kind of FUCKING RETARDED DIPSHIT thinks that's a good way to lay out streets and house numbers? It's bad enough losing my mail because of that; I'd want to kill someone if I lost my HOUSE because of that shit. There are hundreds of houses with numbers in the thousands. There is NO REASON that any two houses in the ENTIRE SUBDIVISION should have the same numbers.

    Also, what is the fetish with large numbers? There is a court next to me with 7 houses and the house numbers are in the 11,000's. Why?!? I grew up in house #105. Friend at 21 on another street, girlfriend at 56, and another friend at 189. Elementary school was 44. What's the point of large numbers if you're not going to at least take advantage of the benefits they give, i.e. uniqueness?

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  31. What's wrong by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

    with that?