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Report: Intel May Dump Nvidia, Turn To AMD For Radeon Graphics Licensing (pcworld.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from PCWorld: Intel could dump Nvidia for a licensing deal with AMD as the chip giant tries to prop up its patent portfolio. Currently, Intel is under a $1.5 billion licensing agreement with Nvidia, which the two companies signed in 2011. At the time, the two companies had spent years fighting each other in courts over patent licensing, and the agreement put all that litigation to rest. Intel's Nvidia deal is set to expire on March 17, 2017, and a recent report by Bloomberg claimed that Intel is now looking to cut a deal with AMD instead.
Republicans always stand against progress.
That is their platform. No progress!
This pairing makes much more sense then Intel and nVidia.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Progress? Republicans can only ever go backwards.
Never forwards. Only backwards.
Is another man's definition of "Horse shit"
They hate computers so they do these things.
Considering video cards are no faster than they were five years ago, they're succeeding.
THIS is how "switchable graphics" is done. Nvidia, take note!
And patents on software are the first step in outlawing computers!
Please don't!
And games look no better because of those Republicans.
As their xian religion demands.
That is why their kind loves AMD.
AMD might have a bit of an upswing once their new Zen CPUs come out next year, but they'll need to have made some serious strides because they can't afford another Bulldozer.
My guess is that Intel is hedging and looking for a way to keep AMD around in order to avoid becoming a de facto monopoly in the x86 space, which they'd rather avoid. Give AMD enough cash to keep them upright while Intel continues to rake in big profits.
Stop, do not pass go, you lose 20% of your stock holdings.
Patents were created by Republicans to destroy innovation.
Probably just a dream, but this could be a very big step forward. The lack of a standard GPU instruction set have paved the way of dozen of different architectures that each consume ressources in support for a very average quality and very few open source one. A GPU architecture as standard and open as CPU would allow to concentrate the ressource on a open and high quality support.
Please define 'better'.
This. All progress on computers has been stopped by those Republican'ts
Remembering a FreeBSD Radeon KMS hell I'd prefer anything else.
do AMD and nVidia have a bunch of overlapping patents that would let Intel slot one in for the other or something? At any rate the one thing AMD does right is integrate graphics, it's just that integrated can never really compete with Discrete. My GPU is mid-range and still has it's own power supply, fans, and cranks heat out back the case...
Oh, and WTF is up with AMD's stock? It's under $3. Is there something I don't understand here? Their patent portfolio alone makes them worth more than that.
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Wha?
Some years ago nVidia had a massive power bug in their chips causing blue screens of death. Not everyone was affected, but for those who were life was hell. There was a campaign to get them to fix it but they ignored it. Well fuck them. Your mileage may vary, but I wouldn't touch nVidia with a bargepole after that. Fuck those guys. I've stuck with ATI after that so I like this news.
I am so sick of seeing Trump, Bernie, and Hillary here. It's nice to see good old intel, nvidia, and AMD once again. Intel has to engage in quite a bit of strategizing. intel has its own 3d graphics, and can license from nvidia, AMD, or imagination. How does intel make deals to get as little money flowing to nvidia, AMD, or imagination as possible? I don't know, but it is fun to watch. Maybe Trump should get a job at intel dealing with 3d graphics licensing, instead of running for president.
Can someone tell me which one is better, please?
Thank you !
Well now that we no longer have to consider GPU based virtual coin mining and only consider gaming, NVIDIA is better.
I know, I know, that breaks the hearts of *some* FOSS advocates but I was talking about gaming, not licensing based political agendas.
In the late 90s, intel figured they could change around the instruction set for good performance, if they had good compilers. That didn't work out in reality. However, that DOES work out in 3d graphics. The problem is that the animation people want to do different things, the number of transistors keeps changing, and Microsoft changes around its graphics API and operating system.
I would like a standardized framebuffer, or something like that.
... The definition of conservatism.
with a few clever legal tricks and the value of the company plundered. I'm surprised nobody is doing this. I've heard Intel keeps them around for 'competition' so they don't get a real lawsuit. Microsoft might prop them up too. But right now they look primed to be 'Bained'. I guess it depends on who they owe money too though.
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1. amd looks better on paper
2. sometimes its products are actually higher performing
3. the first two are regularly made irrelevant by shit drivers
1. nvidia is way overpriced
2. they're anti open source
3. their drivers do work most of the time, on windows and on linux
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intel wanted better performing graphics?
i've had amd and intel, and radeon and geforce. amd just sucks, period. cheaper? processors usually, gpu sometimes.. but better? no fucking way. dollar for dollar, intel and geforce builds the better gaming rig.
*Republicunts
You keep posting this crap but how about getting some testicular fortitude and post it using your real id. Or are you so pathetic and immature that you have to keep hiding behind Anonymously? Mommy and daddy would like you to take a shower, clean up your mess and please finally get a job and move into your own place. They would to like make use of their basement and computer again.
Their comments are flame bait and you took the bait, don't feed the trolls.
I find your comment regarding anonymity on the same leave as their flame bait. A person is already tracked privately by web companies, why should they post using a username to make it easier for others to publicly track them? Anyone can create a username and claim it to be their "real id" it doesn't mean it is. While there are negatives to anonymity, there are also many positives, try to see both sides before making such comments in the future.
Upwards not forward, and always twirling, twirling into the future.
Mommy and daddy would like you to learn the word anonymity.
Lol, nvidia drivers good? Are you ** kidding me? Their windows 10 drivers did not work at all at launch and for some are still nowhere close to stable, not to mention that some drivers were known for literally burning their cards... and that has happened more than once. That without mentioning the bigger issue of lack or substandard support for previous generation cards, wanton gimping and lying to their customers repeatedly.
Well, I guess they used their time travel device then, because patents were around long before the Republican party. But you are just a stupid troll, so I shouldn't be surprised that you don't let the facts get in the way of your narrative.
Or you could just get over your egotistical, narcissistic self. What matters is the content of the message, not who says it. Anyone that says otherwise has an agenda to kill anonymity.
As opposed to AMD that didn't bother blacklisting APUs they knew didn't support GDI+ in their drivers they pushed to Microsoft. That only resulted in infinite boot cycles.
Good luck supporting that company, fuck face.
However, it's impossible to judge the worth of that content before investing time and effort to read it. That means it's very easy to shut down anonymous discussion simply by drowning relevant messages under a flood of spam. Pseudonymity mitigates that problem, as well as facilitating more complex discussions.
No, but people who ascribe malevolent intent on anyone who disagrees with them are making every would-be tyrant's life easier by normalizing such behavior.
Every forum isn't 4chan, nor should they be.
Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.
This software patent shit is WHY nvidia doesn't have open drivers.
No, it is not.
Software patents HAVE NOT prevented Intel to assemble an entirely separate team and/or subcontract,
so that the Linux drivers are a software stack : entirely separate from the Windows one and almost entirely made of free/libre opensource software. (Minus the mini scandal around recent firmware).
All at the same time as AMD has - in parallel of the old "fglrx" stack - has supported a parallel effort to build an opensource stack, by publishing and providing informations/documentation, and also by having some of the opensource developpers on their own payroll.
They have kept TWO parallel development: the software patent encumbered legacy aquired from FireGL *AND* a newer free/libre opensoure stack.
With so much success to the point that they are now deprecating the legacy stack and replacing it with a new hybrid stack where the foundation (DRM kernel driver on Linux) is opensource, and only the 3D library is either the opensource Mesa/Gallium3D or the closed source Radeon Crimson Driver (the new successor of Catalyst). With plans to to successively reduce the closed source surface to bare minimum (the clearly stated end goal is to have nearly everything opensource, baring a minimal optional part that gamers and workstation can switch if they value raw 3D performance more than software freedom).
Meanwhile Nvidia has done nearly nothing for the opensource world. They have barely put any effort to support Nouveau developers, except for a few limited documentation mostly to help support the embed Tegra series, which has only accidentally sometime helped support for Desktop and laptop GPUs.
No documentations for GPUs released, no material support for developpers, no opensource devs on Nvidia's payroll.
In short: software has never prevented Intel and AMD, why should this suddenly be an acceptable excuse for Nvidia ?
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Real good propaganda to reflect against the liberal left machine which is the one that is really against progress . Racist against anyone who does not agree with them and against free speech when they don't' agree what is said . I can't watch dukes of hazard because it's racist to have a car with the confederate flag on it . Whenever there was a black person in hazZard , the Dukes defending them
No that is what the liberal progressive say is thier platform .
Many people just listen to thier favorite blog that spews propaganda.
A religious person has a right to be against the providing contraceptive to its church member . The should not be forced to do so . This is different than saying no one should have access . Liberal media likes to blur the lines . Yet when the pro black power "blm" racist group spews hate and damages property and makes open threats , that gets brushed aside as nothing the party supports even though Hillary and Obama tweet in support before any facts in . I don't like trump but enough of the propaganda machine . oboma holds few news conferences , hires personal photographer for White House and releases only flattering pictures (like a king and against prior practice ) and controls media . That is what a propaganda state looks like . Rather have a Bufoon that runs his mouth rather than a dictator that lies
Don't be fooled . The blm movement and other black power movement act like a religion . Anti non black movement . Not anti white , anti anyone who is not black . This includes people who are African decent who don't believe in the movement .
Take a look at any area in majority control of black politicians . You will find one common thread . Way above average corruption . Gross misspending of public funds . Terrible schools(incompetent principals appointed based on loyalty ) Government funded not for profits that provide little to no services vs money spent . And resident unhappy , high crime , highe sexual harrasment and adult impregnating young girls . All democrats . Everything except helping people survive in real world . Worked in these communities in from line for 20 years
Once again the propaganda machine wants you think this
How up on computers is Hillary . Deflecting her deliberate attempt to control her handing of foreign affairs by setting up a covert illegal server by saving that wiping a server means "with a cloth "
I'm a card carrying democrat but man of man sick of the double standard that is leading to a police state . The Media is afraid to report on democrat negative issues . People are afraid to say they support anything but status quo it any issues supported by non democrats .
The other side of the coin is anyone who disagrees with groups who want to stop free speech send a henchman and call for someone's job , scream they are a racist etc . Just google the St. Paul mnteacher who a racist black life matter activist called for the teacher to get fired because he posted the truth and something that was bit racist but rather went against the narrative of the group . FYI article will talk of teachers getting beat up in halls
Nobody cares.
Gonna be pretty hard securing Radeon licensing from nVidia... maybe they should have considered switching way sooner.
nvidia actually does use a majority of third-party licensed patents that they are not the owners of in both their hardware and software stacks
The question isn't about their hardware. The hardware could very well be closed or open, that doesn't change the matter of opensource drivers. Nobody is asking nvidia for the VHDL of their chips. Intel's and AMD's hardware are closed too. Very few GPU have open cores in fact (only a few experimental).
They can't just up and say "Here, go use this stuff we don't own nor have permission to redistribute openly!", you silly goose, yet that is exactly what you're expecting them to do.
Again, the question is not (necessarily) for Nvidia to publish the source of their whole driver, including the parts that they don't own. That's not a requirement for having an open-source driver. Though it helps: Intel driver *are* released as opensource from the beginning. But it's not a requirement. AMD still hasn't released the code of the fglrx drivers (which may contain some parts for which AMD doesn't own all rights). But AMD has release documentation documenting their drivers. This documentation has helped writing open-source drivers (which at the beginning didn't share code with the fglrx official drivers. They were 2 different implementations of drivers for the same hardware, only 1 of which is opensoruce). AMD is also paying a few of the developers for opensource driver with their own money (again these are different devs than the closed source one. In fact, they were on diferent teams, before the AMDGPU driver got started. Hence the dramatic differences in code style and quality). the fglrx and open-source drivers only started sharing code recently, and that's an entirely new GPL part of the stack.
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