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The 'Human Computer' Behind the Moon Landing Was a Black Woman (thedailybeast.com)

Reader bricko writes: The 'Human Computer' Behind the Moon Landing Was a black woman (video). She calculated the trajectory of man's first trip to the moon by hand, and was such an accurate mathematician that John Glenn asked her to double-check NASA's computers. To top it off, she did it all as a black woman in the 1950s and 60s, when women at NASA were not even invited to meetings. And you've probably never heard of her. Meet Katherine Johnson, the African American woman who earned the nickname 'the human computer' at NASA during its space race golden age.

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  1. Link? by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm curious, was there supposed to be a link in the summary?
    A link to an interesting and relevant story about Katherine Johnson...
    Or were we supposed to just Google or Wiki her?

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    1. Re:Link? by _anomaly_ · · Score: 3, Informative

      For some reason the link is on the main page, but not when you view the article. Here it is.

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    2. Re:Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're supposed to remember. It's just a few months ago since /. ran this story the first time. If you care, the "NASA policy at the time was to not acknowledge the female contributors to scientific papers" part is a blatant lie.

    3. Re:Link? by MobSwatter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The Senior Statustition on the X-15 with North American Aviation was also a woman, her name was Helen Stratton/Perault and was my grandmother on my mother's side.

    4. Re:Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What does a Statustition do?

    5. Re:Link? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Use mathematics to debunk supersticians.

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    6. Re: Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can just google, you'll probably even get an old Slashdot story - this one is recycled as some kid finds out every year.

    7. Re:Link? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      Use mathematics to debunk supersticians.

      That's a great service! I hate it when my supersticians get all full of bunk...
      and I'm not touching that stuff...

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    8. Re:Link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could link to the article I did on this amazing mathematician after President Obama name checked her in his State of the Union address: http://thenewstack.io/katherine-johnson-president-namecheck/

      She won the Presidential Medal of Freedom, not just for her brilliant work at NASA, but for being a life-long educator and mentor.

  2. Not an article... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not an article...

  3. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    We're not allowed to talk about race or skin colour because that's racism.

    Except when someone non-white does something, in which case we need to have the race or skin colour shoved in our face.

    I do understand it's amazing given the decade it happened in, but still.

    1. Re:So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Except when someone non-white does something, in which case we need to have the race or skin colour shoved in our face.

      Not true. A black female student won a prestigious prize in New York City. Fox News ran the story without showing her picture. Everyone else showed her picture. Go figure.

    2. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know how you don't want Microsoft abusing its monopoly position to 'extinguish' the competition? Same thing.

    3. Re:So... by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if you call it "Melanin-Opulence-Impairment Subjects Television", then you'll just make everyone uncomfortable.

      Long way to go to make that joke, I know.

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    4. Re:So... by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Isn't it racism? As in, Fox News didn't want people to know that a black female student won a prestigious prize in New York City?

    5. Re:So... by kheldan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We have B.E.T. (Black Entertainment Television) on cable tv, but if someone made W.E.T. you can bet it'll be called racist.

      We already do. It's called Spike. :p

      While you're at it, how about 'Lifetime: Television for Women'? For that matter, in a world ostensibly full of equality, and race/gender/sexual orientation blindness, do we need special programming for {insert special interest group here}? Because we live in a world full of racism, bigotry, sexism, and inequality-in-general, that's why. If we actually lived in a world without those horrible qualities, we wouldn't have the vast majority of the problems of the world in general that we're seeing right now, either.

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    6. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      M.O.I.S.T. Sounds more like a pron channel.

    7. Re:So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't it racism?

      Fox News doesn't want to disturb their audience with the idea that black people are smart. Or even capable of being the President of the United States.

    8. Re:So... by butchersong · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

    9. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have B.E.T.

      Well, yeah, because TNN was already taken

    10. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      We have B.E.T. (Black Entertainment Television) on cable tv, but if someone made W.E.T.

      Someone did make W.E.T.

      It's called "television". It took about half a century before a black face showed up on television who wasn't playing a sport. And the only reason they were allowed in sports is because they were so much better than white players it was starting to get a little embarrassing to keep them out.

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    11. Re:So... by butchersong · · Score: 1

      Fox News is a lot of things but racist isn't one of them.

    12. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

      In the 50's "Computer" was a job title.

    13. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think anyone cares enough about BET to actually try that. What are they trying to do, corner the R&B market?

    14. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation Needed.

    15. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or perhaps people just have different interests.

      The fact is, I don't care if there is a BET. And honestly, I'm glad that there is a channel for people who like that, just like I'd be glad that people who like polka would have the ability to have The Polka Channel. The nice thing about BET or TPC is that if I don't watch it, it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but alternately, I can choose to watch it if I please, despite being a white male who is under 95 years of age. Simply having a channel with a different ethnic basis is what I'd call diversity without discrimination.

      There are some actions today that are meant to raise certain populations which come at the expense of someone else. I have a problem with that. While I agree that the past circumstances that put them in their current position was unfair, I have trouble with the idea that unfairness to another group will fix the issue.

      What we need is equal opportunity before the law. Merciless enforcement of laws to ensure that discrimination cannot occur on an unfair basis should ensure that the playing field is more or less even.

      Of course, those who were disadvantaged by background will lag on such a field, but eventually they will catch up, and when they do, there will be no one to tell them that they only succeeded because some law propped them up. If a black woman gets into a college over me because she had a better score than I did, then guess what, I may not like it, but she won, fair and square. If she walks in simply because she's black and/or a woman and had a lower score, then what does that say about what we think of our educational system? It sounds like it is more about supposed "fairness" than achievement.

    16. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. A black female student won a prestigious prize in New York City. Fox News ran the story without showing her picture. Everyone else showed her picture. Go figure.

      Said some bored high school student on the internet. So jeezuz christ! It muse be trues!

      Quote: "Do not believe everything you read (or now hear and see) on the Internet." - Jesus Christ while on the Cross (As recorded by two dozen people standing below him with iPhones.) Yep, it's true.

    17. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, bringing it up as a "thing to be proud of" is racism. When you bring up being black as a "thing to be proud of" that makes *me*, a *white man*, feel ashamed to be white. Fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on.

      Gee, it must be so hard to live in a world where you feel ashamed--ashamed!--to be white. Why don't you come join us in our world? Granted, it's not all rainbows and unicorns for those of us who are white males here, but it sure is much better than what you are apparently getting in your parallel universe.

    18. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is racist is pointing out her race. In a colorblind society we should strive for, it shouldn't matter if a person is white or nigger.

      Ummm,...yeah. Several years back I thought that maybe we were finally moving on to a post-racial society. Then someone says something like this that makes me think we really haven't moved all that much beyond the 1950s. Congratulations! I'm sure your mom is real proud.

    19. Re: So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      Citation Needed.

      I found this one in your high school yearbook.

      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pini...

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    20. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My kingdom for a "-1/2: Whaaaa???" mod option

    21. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not exactly true. At all.

    22. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    23. Re: So... by pjv936 · · Score: 1

      White Entertainment TV (W.E.T.) is all of the channels that are not B.E.T.

    24. Re:So... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      First television broadcast in the US started in 1928.

      African Americans were quite common on TV from the beginning, and by 1939 the Ethel Waters Show featured Ethel Waters, a black entertainer, headlining and starring in her own TV variety show. So 11 years from the first broadcast to the first regular show starring blacks. That's a bit shorter than 50 years...

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    25. Re:So... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Said some bored high school student on the internet. So jeezuz christ! It muse be trues!

      Now this was written by a bored high school student.

      However, the incident was true. Unfortunately, I can't provide a link. A Google search returns too many recent results for Fox News and racism.

    26. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honeymooners, Days of Our Lives, The Carson Show, News anchors, Gunsmoke, General Hospital, Andy Griffith Show, Dukes of Hazzard, Brady Bunch, Hee-haw, Bonanza, Happy Days, Dallas, Gilligan's Island, Hawaii Five-Oh, Perry Mason, The Beverly Hillbillies, I Dream of Jeanie, M*A*S*H, Cheers, The Jack Benny Show, Mission: Impossible, Leave It To Beaver, Hogan's Heroes, My Three Sons, I Love Lucy, Little House on the Prairie, Magnum: P.I., The Golden Girls.

      I think your definition of "quite common" and mine are radically different. Yes, there was Sanford & Son, Benson, and Nichelle Nichols in her tiny Star Trek role, and in the late 1970s Diff'rent Strokes and later The Cosby Show, and a few more shows with primarily African American casts in the 1990s and since. But even factoring in those shows, African Americans are maybe 15% of the US population but a ridiculously tiny portion of screen time and major characters from the inception of American television right through the 1980s.

      I'm not the Demographics Police. It doesn't make any sense to demand that an arbitrarily fixed percentage of shows feature non-whites in major roles. But their absence is indicative of unconscious bias in casting trends.

    27. Re: So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Amos and Andy had their own fucking program in the early 50s.

      "Amos and Andy"

      kek

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    28. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

      Massa loves his singing and dancing and sports.

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    29. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      African Americans were quite common on TV from the beginning

      Common, my ass. It was a minstrel show. Black people to entertain white people. You find many people in dramatic series? Comedy shows besides Amos & Andy (played by two white guys on radio, by the way). How 'bout a Playhouse 90?

      If it comforts you to think of yourself as not racist, I don't care. But just be aware that your counter-examples just draw a big underscore under your bigotry.

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    30. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the fucking article, these were actors performing scenes from a play, and skits. You specified "playing a sport" only.

      Doesn't matter anyway because EVERYBODY loves singing and dancing and sports, nothing racist about that.

      Typical PoopRatzo, can't back up what you actually said, so you have to move the goalposts...

    31. Re:So... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Read the fucking article, these were actors performing scenes from a play, and skits.

      Maybe you should read the article:

      As such, she would find herself saddled with a role, that of a warmhearted maid that misused her talents and, more often than not, distressed the actress herself. But her very presence led the way for everything of color to come over the next half century.

      She had to play a fucking servant and Waters herself was ashamed of the role, but needed the work.

      Your example exemplifies why there is a B.E.T. And it exemplifies your bigotry.

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    32. Re:So... by quantaman · · Score: 2

      These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

      As to whether she's black I'd ask if she self-identifies as black.

      As for the focus on female humans computers and her race you can be certain in a Hollywood movie based on the moon landing the mathematicians calculating the orbits would either be absent from the script or a bunch of white guys. It's exactly what people mean when they talk about "whitewashing" in Hollywood, these stories are important to point out that even in the past there were prominent women and minorities.

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    33. Re: So... by bughunter · · Score: 1

      YMBNH. This site is an all-you-can-eat buffet for trolls. It's like the frickin' Golden Corral around here.

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    34. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, with the moving goalposts.

      You didn't say anything about "fucking servants," only sports.

      And she had her own TV special on NBC the year they started broadcasting.

      So shove your ignorance and condescension up your ass.

    35. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just as White is White, Black is Black.
      Unfortunately for the race war'ers, Black genes regarding external features seem to overpower White genes. So all such are considered Black, Brown, Whatever.
      Probably because Black-ish is generally thought to be Original Peoples... you know, prehistoric Mideast Civilization, Jesus was Black.
      What's most interesting is that she did all this coming up in decidedly racist South... West Virginia, Virginia, Texas, Florida, etc.
      And I don't mean Atlanta (the Black capital of the united states btw, over 50%).
      And she wasn't the sexy hot skirt wearin hairdoo White wifey type that got all the cake jobs either.
      So huge Kudos to her!

    36. Re:So... by nbauman · · Score: 2

      As to whether she's black I'd ask if she self-identifies as black.

      I think the more significant question is whether the bus drivers in Virginia identified her as black.

      http://www.visionaryproject.or...

      On the bus ride to this first assignment (in Marion, VA), Katherine says she had her first experience with racism. She says when they crossed from West Virginia into Virginia, the bus stopped and all of the Black people had to move to the back, which Katherine did. Later, they had to change buses. All of the white passengers were allowed on the bus, but the Blacks were put into taxis. Katherine says the driver said âoeAll you colored folk, come over here.â But she would not move until he asked her politely.

    37. Re:So... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      When I grew up in Brooklyn in the 1950s, I had a fair number of black teachers.

      My favorite biology teacher was a young black woman who had worked as a lab technician. She taught me how to breed fruit flies and grow bacteria. That kind of favor, you don't forget.

      I've also known a fair number of blacks who were successful in science and engineering.

      I had a housemate in college who was studying chemical engineering. Never got to know him. He was always studying.

      I remember a black guy who was working as a computer operator, stuff like changing tapes and printer paper. He heard about a job for a programmer. He got the programming manual, read it all night, lied about his qualifications, and started programming. He pulled it off. Brass balls. I really have to admire that.

      In some ways, there was less racism back then. Blacks, Jews. Italians, Irish, Polish, men, women, they all worked together. If you knew calculus and electronics, you got respect. Unfortunately, identity politics tore everybody apart. The Southern backlash didn't do any good either.

    38. Re:So... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Although at the time, computing was not necessarily a prestigious career choice. Ie, the job of doing computation by hand. It was often repetitive and rote. Those people with prestige figured out the algorithms or problems to be solved and then used the answers for their own work. The viewpoint at the time was probably like comparing an accountant to a mathematician. This is not to diminish what this person did of course.

    39. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. I'm sure you face institutional barriers at every turn, and have to be twice as good as everyone else to get a chance, you poor baby.

      *You* make people ashamed to be white. Actually, not really. You're an entitled clown, born on third base. $100 says you're a Trump voter.

    40. Re:So... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      In the 50's "Computer" was a job title.

      Yes, large organisations had "computer pools" and "typist pools", both were almost exclusively filled with women. Even during the 70's when I went to HS, boys were not offered typing lessons because "boys don't grow up to be typists". Computers (of the human variety) were in very high demand during WW2 to compile artillery tables, the same job that first electronic computers were put to work on.

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    41. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does B.E.T. have token whites playing scientists the way (W.E.T.) has blacks fulfilling that rôle?

    42. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you just proved the GP's point. Would they have shown the picture of the winner if they were a white male? I suspect the answer is "no" - in which case, everyone *except* Fox News was being racist.

    43. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crickets...

    44. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bam, someone just got an old fasion dot slashing. Just accept it and go home otherwise you'll just look more stopid

    45. Re:So... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      We're not allowed to talk about race or skin colour because that's racism.

      Says who?

      It's just a historic fact that white people tend to have not had to overcome racism. Some have of course, and there are stories about them, from historical figures travelling the world to modern day rappers. But it's just a fact of history that in our societies, in the history that matters most to us, non-whites were treated pretty badly. When this woman was born signs saying "whites only" were perfectly legal and not uncommon.

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    46. Re:So... by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      when I went to HS, boys were not offered typing lessons because "boys don't grow up to be typists".

      Funny story TC, I asked and asked because I spent so much time on a keyboard. I got my way, they thought I was crazy going to a class room to learn to type. I was surrounded by lots of very hot young ladies, mum was proud, my mates were jealous, I got better typing on computers and yes I went there - it was fucking awesome.

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    47. Re:So... by N1AK · · Score: 1

      We're not allowed to talk about race or skin colour because that's racism.

      The problem with this kind of reactionary response is that it completely misses context. We already know that their is an unconscious bias towards white males in western society, it's been demonstrated time and again, and it even applies to the views of people who aren't white males themselves (black Americans do worse in tests when they've been asked to state their ethnicity in advance for example). We don't know exactly why this is, but it is widely believed amongst people who study this that it comes down to people expecting what they've experienced in the past. So in this case we've heard comparatively little about important black and important female mathematicians but plenty about important white male mathematicians so we unconsciously expect that to be true in future. A story like this, taken positively rather than defensively as a threat, can help adjust those unconscious biases.

      So in short we should have these kinds of things shoved in our face. We already have white male success shoved in our face constantly: 96/100 Senators are white, 95% of S&P company CEOs are men, and so on and so forth. Highlighting the odd capable black woman doesn't concern me as a white male, the worst thing it might do is remove some unfair advantage I'm getting due conscious/unconscious bias and I don't want or need that to compete thanks.

    48. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're not allowed to talk about race or skin colour because that's racism.

      Hard to be certain whether your agenda is FUD, or you're just a moron.

      Try and concentrate (I know it's hard for you, and that reading more than 120 words will make your lips sore). "Racism" is what illiterate, lazy people call "racial bigotry". By "racist" they mean "someone who believes certain races are inferior".

      Now pay attention. This is the tricky part.... to discriminate by race does not mean that one race is inferior to another. Confused? Try "colourist". Is that someone who believes certain colours are inferior to others? Or someone who discriminates between colours??
      Am I a "colour bigot" if I "discriminate" between colours? And if so how do I find my fucking car in the car park?

      Note: I am "white" (Caucasian, though it's extremely unlikely any of my ancestors came from the Caucasian mountains. Go figure.). I am not being a racial bigot describing myself as white. But then I don't have the same agenda as you.

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    49. Re:So... by dywolf · · Score: 1

      WET sounds like more a porno channel to be honest.

      that said, "white entertainment tv" already exists: it's known as nearly every other channel and show .

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    50. Re:So... by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      pay up, twat.

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    51. Re:So... by rhazz · · Score: 1

      What do they actually show on BET, and what kind of equivalent would you put on WET that isn't already served by the rest of the channels?

    52. Re: So... by KenHansen · · Score: 1

      The Jeffersons represented 3/7ths of the primary cast on All in the Family in the early 70s, and they put George Jefferson in condescending role of successful small business man with a college-educated son and stay-at-home wife. Then when George 'hit the big time' he moved on 'up to the east side' and 'got himself a piece of the pie' - and his own show. And of course, let's not forget 'Good Times' - another shuck-and-jive blacksoitation tv series. Wasn't Garret Morris one of the Original 'Not Ready For Prime Time Players' on SNL? That show started in the mid 70s also. And of course, Sanford and Son was nothing but black vaudeville actors and the top comedian of his day, Fred Foxx. Gawd, blacks were so under-represented on TV in the 70s.

    53. Re: So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha i see what you did there. The nigger network. Hahahahah

    54. Re:So... by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      So, here's the thing. Yes, there are racial institutional barriers in the US. However, they alone don't explain why blacks still have a much higher poverty rate than whites do. Black immigrants from Africa tend to do pretty well for themselves - not as well as white immigrants, generally speaking, but better than black Americans.

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    55. Re:So... by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

      These days it is patronizing but back then I imagine it was fairly remarkable but, maybe not. Looking into this, many of the "computers" back then were women. What I do find slightly offensive is the notion that she was "black". The woman appears more caucasian than african but our society treats anyone with even a smattering of african blood as "black". This strikes me as deeply racist.

      The only vestiges of racism, eg, Black vs White vs Asian vs native American is with the USA. The rest of the north/south American continent sees some wonderful humans and even family. I look at friends as people who are kind, generous, helpful, and with good humour. My friends and I see no colour.

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    56. Re:So... by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      People have no idea today. I remember when there used to be a separate bathroom for whites and blacks. Often a separate water fountain. As if black people were animals or had something contagious or something. I remember asking about it. The grown ups would just say shush. They didn't want to even discuss it. I knew something awful was going on.

      I can remember communities that were gated off. No blacks or Jews. The gates came down in the 1970s.

      Jim Crow, etc. Those were policies of the Democrats in the south. Look it up, Governor Wallace, etc. President Eisenhower (Republican) sent in the Army to allow black kids to go to a white school in the south. Imagine that, they had to send in the army because people were scared of a few black children. When JFK came to power he had a few WTF moments with the Democrats in the south as well. Hitting adults and children with water canons and attack dogs. No kidding, they really did that.

      Some people decided to blow up a few black churches in the south, with people in them. I can't imagine how they would think that was a good idea.

      So many people aren't aware of this and other things that happened, not that long ago.

      For the Men and Women that were black and overcame this stuff, that's really a tribute to them. As with successful people of other races, it should uplift black people. They really can make something of themselves. So many think that being born black is like a terminal disease. They'll never be anything, they'll always get cut down, so why even try. Do drugs, do crimes, go to jail, that's normal. I've heard it many times.

    57. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As to whether she's black I'd ask if she self-identifies as black.

      I'm not trying to be dismissive here, but what does it matter how she self-identifies?

      I could self-identify as a tomato, but that wouldn't make me a tomato.

    58. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were genetically part tomato, you might have that option.

      What "self-identify" means is that, rather than letting other people simple-mindedly put you in a "box" that fits their preconceptions, you say it's more complicated than that, so "I choose my own box."

  4. Wow. Woman, black, empowered, in STEM field... by sciengin · · Score: 1, Interesting

    and what good did that do to her and women or minorities in general?
    Was the discrimination of that time suddenly removed?

    Dont get me wrong, it is not that I mind women or blacks in STEM, but it seems that many believe that if only there were more of those in STEM, suddenly all their problems would go away.
    I think this story is proof that employment in science or technologies and equal rights do not automatically go hand in hand.

    And if that is true, then the opposite must also be true: just because most engineers and scientists today are white males does not mean that it is because women are oppressed in these fields.

    1. Re:Wow. Woman, black, empowered, in STEM field... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop applying logic and reason to things where we are supposed to *FEEL* what is right....

    2. Re:Wow. Woman, black, empowered, in STEM field... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 2

      You might want to take your head out of your ass and RTFA:

      “I just happened to be working with guys,” she said, “and when they had briefings I asked permission to go. They said, ‘The girls don’t usually go.’ I said, ‘Is there a law?’ And they said, ‘No.’ So then my boss said, ‘Let her go.’”

      Did you catch the line: ‘The girls don’t usually go.’

      Fucking moron.

  5. Computers by rupert.applin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's interesting how quickly what was a job title for someone, became so quickly a term used solely the device. Where in the 1940's a "computer" was someone who did math, then by the 1960's, someone who did the same job as her peers 20 years prior was given that as a nickname. http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/hist...

    1. Re:Computers by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points. That is clearly the most interesting aspect of this. I wonder what the effects will be for other jobs currently being automated like waiter, host(ess), etc

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    2. Re:Computers by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points. That is clearly the most interesting aspect of this. I wonder what the effects will be for other jobs currently being automated like waiter, host(ess), etc

      "Waiter" got its secondary meaning long before "computer" with "dumbwaiter".

      Another transmogrified title include "calculator". It's even come full circle with the expression "human calculator" for someone good at arithmetic in their head. All calculators used to be human.

    3. Re:Computers by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, if history is any indication, any job ending in "er" will be replaced by machines.

      Computer, driver, teacher, waiter, progra-GO BACK TO WORK, SLAVES!

    4. Re:Computers by edittard · · Score: 1

      When you say it's interesting, is that because you'd never heard it before? And if the answer is in the affirmative, are you Amish?

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    5. Re:Computers by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess that all the doctors are safe then.

      Also the proctologists, because who really wants to deal with assholes all day?

    6. Re:Computers by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Well, if history is any indication, any job ending in "er" will be replaced by machines.

      how about- lawyer.

      Bring on the machines...

      (quietly changing my diploma to "Enginear" and hoping the robots don't notice...)

    7. Re:Computers by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Thanks to NSA, we are computees

    8. Re:Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Mennonite, you insensitive clod.

    9. Re:Computers by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Seems to undersell her work somewhat. A computer simply computes the results of someone else's equations, but according to Wikipedia she was doing much more.

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    10. Re:Computers by GuB-42 · · Score: 2

      Hooker too?

    11. Re:Computers by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      It's interesting how quickly what was a job title for someone, became so quickly a term used solely the device. Where in the 1940's a "computer" was someone who did math, then by the 1960's, someone who did the same job as her peers 20 years prior was given that as a nickname.

      I want to see proof that this was actually a nickname at that time. In the 1950s and 1960s it was still quite common to refer to humans who did intensive calculations as "computers." The idea that this particular person was referred to as "the human computer" as a laudatory nickname in an era when her job title was likely still "computer" seems really bizarre.

      It sounds more likely to me that TFA was written by someone who didn't understand that people back then were still referred to as "computers," so they misinterpreted her title as a "nickname."

      This is NOT to undermine her achievements at all -- by all accounts, she sounds like one of the most important computers of that time.

    12. Re:Computers by bughunter · · Score: 2

      I was going to reply to the GP that it will truly be the end of humanity when machines start programming themselves.

      Then you had to make it even worse...

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    13. Re:Computers by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      https://www.realdoll.com/ (NSFW*, * work/wife)

    14. Re:Computers by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Human adding machines in a sense. Though they did multiplication and division too and could look up in tables. I think some people look back from the present day with a mindset that computers are amazing, mathematics is very difficult and hard without an electronic calculator, and so think that someone doing this work must be completely amazing. Yet it was very commonplace. Now being very good at that job gets one promotions or opportunities in better jobs, but ultimately there's some more important people who want something calculated and send that work to the less important parts of the building to get the answer.

    15. Re:Computers by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      The name didn't exactly change. Machines that did the job of a computer (i.e. perform computations) were referred to as mechanical computers and then as electronic computers. After a while, electronic computers they became so cheap that there was no reason to employ (human) computers and no reason to build (more expensive) mechanical computers and so the adjective was dropped because there was no longer a need for disambiguation.

      The same thing has happened with the word 'camera' far more quickly. 10 years ago, people said 'digital camera' to distinguish them from film cameras. Now, film cameras are so rare that people just say camera.

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    16. Re:Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems to undersell her work somewhat. A computer simply computes the results of someone else's equations, but according to Wikipedia she was doing much more.

      First, no that's not accurate at all. A computer does (or did) not "simply compute the results of someone else's equations".
      Second, the Wikipedia page does not say she was "doing much more", it's actually a pretty sparse article.
      Also, according to Wikipedia Ryan Gosling is ugly compared to me and I have a 12 inch dick, and make $12billion per year. Go find a better source of information because yours sucks.

      Finally, here's a link to the NASA article, since you seem more adept at shit-posting on slashdot than using Google:
      http://www.nasa.gov/feature/katherine-johnson-the-girl-who-loved-to-count

    17. Re:Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The process of discovery for large cases (financial and patent cases especially) has now caused tons of junior lawyers at large firms to be replaced by machines. There's been plenty of articles on slashdot specifically about this.

    18. Re:Computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, little merit there. Ramanujan started failing once the real source person of his schizophrenic ramblings was away from him. Stress something if there was some math development in the calculus or if the woman alone established the framework/model/procedure. In my experience Africans pass as theirs what Humans do and do not declare their sources. My problems are DIRECT REAL EXPERIENCE OF DENIGRATION AND IMPERSONATION so do not just say no to this. In general Africans are a security risk and threat, but no one wants to verify it or even ask with the intention to PROVE it. These remarks are dismissed just like that when you mention an African. Why not LET THEM DO IT ALONE IN AFRICA? See what I mean?

    19. Re:Computers by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      In the 1950s and 1960s it was still quite common to refer to humans who did intensive calculations as "computers."

      That nickname goes back well over a century before that. Closer to two centuries. There was a fairly major batch of progress in the "Enlightenment" on the mathematics of convergent series for the calculation of the values of trigonometric functions and logarithms, specifically to improve the speed and accuracy of calculations by "computers." Some of this was for navigation purposes, some for surveying (the UK established it's Ordnance survey in 1791, and that sort of project produces a lot of computing to be done), some for science and engineering. And some for bean-counting - Blaise Pascal had invented a mechanical calculator for helping his father, a tax man, in 1642.

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  6. I haven't heard of her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I be fair, I couldn't name anyone else on the Apollo engineering team, either.

    1. Re:I haven't heard of her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She wasn't on the Apollo engineering team. She was a computer. All of the computers were women because stupid calculation was beyond the dignity of engineers and besides, they were worse at it than the computers who did nothing else all day long. She worked the logarithm tables and calculated stuff, digitally. I doubt they even worked with slide rules: too little precision for moon landings.

      Like the other computers, she was extraordinarily skilled and practiced at a subskill every lowly sales clerk had to perform all the time (I was pretty annoyed dozens of years ago when a clerk keyed in the prices of about 5 articles worth $1 to $3 and could not understand why I insisted that her register's claim of about $50 was wrong. These days they don't key in prices at all.). Skilled enough that they were letting her join the group of otherwise white women.

      It's not really modesty when she says that she's surprised about the hubbub they are now making. It was a shit-shoveling drone job delegated to women (since electric/electronic computers were not affordable and thus rarely employed and only moderately trusted), not requiring higher education or engineering skills, but still in need of getting done diligently and accurately.

      That nobody acquires those skills these days because of omnipresent electronic calculators is sort of an excuse to shroud her job in glorioles. For lack of any more important example of "diversity".

      That's the real embarrassing here: those times were racist and filled with male chauvinism, and she was not an exception to that scheme. It's ridiculous that of all the women employed for those tedious jobs she gets the diversity crown because she was good at it and black. Let's just admit that those were embarrassing times and move on.

  7. It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cablepokerface · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ... to write these things as being remarkable. She's black and a woman. Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

    I have no doubt they have good intentions writing this, though. But still.

    1. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

      Well yeah, it sounds stupid today. But there was a time when that sentence was "common knowledge".

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    2. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beat me to it.

      1) Let's flip this around, headline "WHITE MALE is the first human being on the moon!". People would respond that it was racist to identify the astronaut as WHITE and sexist that he was a male. Those same people would be PERFECTLY OKAY with saying BLACK FEMALE is first human on Mars!

      2) People should be judged by the content of their character. That said, I bet MLK is really proud of the #BLM movement. Everything he fought for UNDONE by black racists. Irony?

    3. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      She's not black, she's even whiter than Michael Jackson: picture.
      Maybe she is of African descent, I don't know. But if they want to call her black she should have dark skin...

    4. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by phorm · · Score: 1

      As per the article, it was almost impossible given the attitudes to both people of color and women in those industries at the time.

      It's not unlikely that she was skilled, but more that it was highly unusual for anyone to recognise such at the time.

    5. Re: It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow OK if that's a black woman than I'm Geronimo.

    6. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuckin lold

    7. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by davide+marney · · Score: 1

      Were her calculations any "blacker" than others? Or more "feminine"? No? Then why should anyone care? You might as well talk about someone's shoe size or the length of their nose.

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    8. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by edittard · · Score: 1

      She's very much like Michael Jackson. No, not *that*, and it was never proved anyway.

      Scroll down for the younger photo.

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    9. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      porch monkey

      It's okay. He's taking it back.

    10. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All I see there is a grayed old picture. Her skin may or may not have been darker back then, but it certainly wasn't black. If they want to put focus on her being black, she ought to be that. Call me pedantic, but words have meaning.

    11. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dissy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... to write these things as being remarkable. She's black and a woman. Impossibru, she must be as dumb as a door nail!

      You should probably read a history book or two before making such a stupid comment.

      Of course it was remarkable in 1940!

      Women we're not given jobs doing anything more than trivial tasks, and black people typically were NOT given jobs by white people at all because actually paying them anything was more than their labor was seen as worth.

      You do realize it wasn't even illegal to discriminate against blacks or women until 1964 right?
      It was perfectly common back then to not hire either women or black people and to outright tell them it was because they were a women or black, and they just had to suck up the injustice of it without any recourse.

      The fact she was both brings down the wrath of two groups of discrimination that ran very strong, and continued to do so for decades beyond that point in time, yet did such amazing mathematical work, should give you a slight idea of the effort and work she had to put into her life and career to even get to that point.

      The fact she had a job what so ever was pretty exceptional, let alone a job typically only given to college graduates, which blacks weren't welcome to attend for the most part, and was again perfectly legal to not allow them to, and as a woman the fact her skills knowledge and ambitions were more than "I want to sew or bring the man of the office coffee" was fairly unheard of.

      Unheard of... as evidenced by the fact you and most people haven't heard of her.

      Also the very fact stories like this are so rare is not an indication of how "behind the times" the author is, but a testament to exactly how rare such a situation was at the time.

      Just because you haven't experienced or witnessed discrimination since the year of your birth to now, doesn't mean it was anything close to how it was in the past.

      Again I can't stress enough, you need to read some history if for no other reason than to learn your limits and not make such authoritative sounding yet factually incorrect stupid statements.

    12. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      she did it all as a black woman in the 1950s and 60s,

      You are suggesting she was part of the Slitheen invasion? ;)

    13. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I sort of see what he's getting at. Look at her features.

      I have darker skin, especially in summer, than some Africans. I'm an Anglo-Taff-Paddy, and that's exactly what I look like.

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    14. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Triklyn · · Score: 1

      if she was black enough to have been hanged a century before that, then she's black.

    15. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It makes more sense in the historical context. Remember that in the 50s there were still laws segregating black people. Access to education was difficult for most black people. Feminism and women's lib was only starting to have an effect. Well done to her for overcoming those hurdles, and props to NASA for being progressive.

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    16. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's not black, she's even whiter than Michael Jackson: picture.
      Maybe she is of African descent, I don't know. But if they want to call her black she should have dark skin...

      So says A RACIST. You are judging someone by the color of their skin. Just like a good little Progressive Liberal should, well done. (Racist pig.)

    17. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. I'm not judging her at all. I'm judging the people who wrote that headline and called a white-skinned woman black. I don't care about skin color, I just care about facts.

    18. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. I'm not judging her at all. I'm judging the people who wrote that headline and called a white-skinned woman black. I don't care about skin color, I just care about facts.

      You are so clueless, you literally don't know how clueless you actually are. Darwin at work again. Wow.

    19. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol. You're an idiot. And here's a clue: I'm black. Not that it matters.

    20. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Not in this day and age! It's all about how you self-identify. After all, you can be lily white but still identify as black and be the president of the local NAACP chapter on the basis of a bad perm and self-identify conflicts!

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    21. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you mean? White people set aside a whole month just to show black people they can do things just like white people. If that is not racist why should remarking on her blackness be racists?
              Black people need to be helped and shown how important they are in society. By showing how much we appreciate them we can show them how non racists we as white people really are. Just like I would always help out a retarded child and tell him how great he is, I will always tell black people how awesome they are and remind them of this every February. This is the central dogma of liberalism. It is never considered racist to remind black people just how special they are and remind them that they too can do important things just like white people.
      encourage them to succeed like white people. -encourage them to succeed like white people.
      e white people.

      Seesh, I just don't know what is wrong with some of you guys.

    22. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      OTOH, if you want to find subversive text in all this, I find it a little bit racist to refer to her strictly as a "black" woman, when clearly she's extremely light skinned and only lightly exhibits the typical facial features of african heritage (which is a real thing before the SJ kneejerkers scream racism: http://johnhawks.net/explainer... , as did her parents, which strongly suggests a white lineage as well.
      This doesn't matter academically of course, she did what she did because of who she was, not what she was, but why is it if someone has half, or even just 25% african heritage in the US, they're still typically considered simply "black' for all intents and purposes, and it's as if the Caucasian or Sino-Asian heritage is submersed and dismissed? Both Halley Berry and Obama, for example, are equally half white/black but they're flatly considered black by most accounts. Obama was even raised by his US mother and her parents, who were white. Few other than Morgan Freeman seem to comprehendf that Obama is actually 50/50.
      This can work either for or against someone actually (as in the case of Obama, supporters and detractors alike), but why don't we just honestly refer to mixed race people as mulatto anymore, or maybe "mixed", when that's the simple truth of the matter?
      It seems rather belittling to both races: the white aspect is ignored, and the black aspect is patronized, as the parent post pointed out.

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    23. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you are saying is that living as a black person in the 1940's was the equivalent of being a cracker in 2016. Got it . Thanks for enlightening me on how it must feel to be a black women living in 1940.

    24. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by ncc74656 · · Score: 0

      This doesn't matter academically of course, she did what she did because of who she was, not what she was, but why is it if someone has half, or even just 25% african heritage in the US, they're still typically considered simply "black' for all intents and purposes, and it's as if the Caucasian or Sino-Asian heritage is submersed and dismissed? Both Halley Berry and Obama, for example, are equally half white/black but they're flatly considered black by most accounts. Obama was even raised by his US mother and her parents, who were white. Few other than Morgan Freeman seem to comprehendf that Obama is actually 50/50.

      It's the one-drop rule...and [Democrats|race-baiters|SJWs] are perpetuating it, now that they can twist it into a perceived advantage.

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    25. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by nbauman · · Score: 1

      http://www.visionaryproject.or...

      Though her father had quit school after the sixth grade, he considered education of paramount importance for Katherine and her older siblings Charles, Margaret and Horace. Since the local schools only offered classes to African Americans through the eighth grade, he enrolled his children in a school that was 125 miles away from their home. Katherineâ(TM)s high school was part of the West Virginia Collegiate Institute (formerly the West Virginia Colored Institute). In 1929, the school was renamed West Virginia State College, and later it was renamed West Virginia State University. During the academic year, Mr. Coleman worked in White Sulphur Springs, while his wife and children resided near the school in Institute, West Virginia. ....

      Following in her motherâ(TM)s footsteps, Katherine began teaching in rural Virginia and West Virginia schools. Her first job was at an elementary school where she responded to a telegram that said if she could teach math and French, and play the piano, the job was hers.

      On the bus ride to this first assignment (in Marion, VA), Katherine says she had her first experience with racism. She says when they crossed from West Virginia into Virginia, the bus stopped and all of the Black people had to move to the back, which Katherine did. Later, they had to change buses. All of the white passengers were allowed on the bus, but the Blacks were put into taxis. Katherine says the driver said "All you colored folk, come over here." But she would not move until he asked her politely. Katherine also said her mother warned her, "Remember, you're going to Virginia." And that she said, "Well, tell them I'm coming." Katherine says the racism was not as blatant in West Virginia as it was in Virginia.

    26. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      a black math PhD working for NASA might not be able to multiply.

      They can always adopt...

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    27. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She got the job as computer because she was a woman, and in her case the were specifically looking for black women to open up a new computing oil of black women.

      If she had been a man she would have most likely been given a position as a junior engineer instead.

      So yes discrimination and gender bias definately existed back then, but before you go telling people to understand the historical context and know their facts, maybe you should do that as well.

    28. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dissy · · Score: 1

      Nice story bro. Too bad it isn't at all true.

    29. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It was remarkable because white men generally excluded everyone except themselves. It's not because there is anything inherently surprising about being an intelligent black woman- it was because women were discriminated against and black women were discriminated against even more.

    30. Re: It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SJW Nuclear War incoming in 3....2....1

    31. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cablepokerface · · Score: 2

      I'm well aware of the history. As is any sane person, obviously.

      See, you're doing it wrong. And you're missing entirely why. If you (and many others) keep pointing to history instead of looking forward and keep pointing to racial differences while being well intentioned you're actually keeping them alive. Much more so than actual racists, who are intellectually easier to ignore.

      If we, as people, have the discipline to raise 1 or 2 generations of people who aren't told how truely remarkable it is when a black person does something, they won't see it as remarkable and just view it as normal. google 'morgan freeman black history'. He says it best; stop talking about it. Stop talking about how black history is somehow separate from white history. It is American history.

      Now, having said that, I agree this strategy will cause some historical people (like this woman) to get less credit than they deserve, because only an idiot would argue it was just as hard for her than it was a white male.

      But as long as we keep getting stuck in that mud, we're not getting anywhere.

    32. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it was remarkable in 1940!

      Women we're not given jobs doing anything more than trivial tasks,

      Which is why all of the computers were female in the first place. She was not an engineer, she was a computer. She added, multiplied, divided numbers given to her all day long, brutally tedious work the engineers were too good for. They had a stable of women for that, and she was a pretty good mare in that stable.

      For lack of anything better for prettying the history, they are now making a whole show out of the fact that she did calculations expected from any primary school graduate at that period of time. Just because everybody had stopped being able to do calculations without electronics these days does not mean that it was considered anything but a basic skill those times.

      The fact she had a job what so ever was pretty exceptional, let alone a job typically only given to college graduates,

      Uh, I doubt that there were even college graduates under the all-female computers. You are confusing computing with engineering. The job description is simply gone these days because electronics have annihilated them. Instead anybody who can add a column of numbers on papers, let alone calculate square roots manually, is considered a genius these days.

      Being a secretary would have likely been a better renowned job and she would not have been able to get a job where she would have been visible like that.

      These were shit times and hanging the diversity wreath on her now is plainly ridiculous. She has my respect for being good, dedicated, diligent and important at what she chose to do. But it had awfully little to do with diversity and emancipation. Nobody is talking about the thousands of her all-female "computer" colleagues all over the country in less renowned places, likely also including a number of black women because, you know, nobody needed to actually look at them. You handed in your calculations and got the results at some point.

    33. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Factually inaccurate and riddled with fallacies.

      A computer used to be predominantly female occupation back in the 50s thanks to a little known event known as World War II, which had a tiny effect on the availability of male labor because the young men were busy BEING DEAD on the beaches of Normandy. Even before the war, women computers were commonplace and it certainly wouldn't be exceptional for a female to work as one.

      Furthermore, while blacks were facing some prejudice in the middle of the 20th century, they were still accepted within the labor force. You can tell because they didn't all starve to death.

      You do realize it wasn't even illegal to discriminate against blacks or women until 1964 right?

      Or white. Or male. The premise does not support the implied conclusion that this particular women has experienced some nebulous level of discrimination. 10000 years ago, it was perfectly legal to murder people. The fact that the human species exists to this day is a fine testament that the legality of a certain heinous act does not lead to it's rampant prevalence.

      Also the very fact stories like this are so rare is not an indication of how "behind the times" the author is, but a testament to exactly how rare such a situation was at the time.

      Or uninteresting. A computer is a menial job, even if it's a mental one. History will not remember many $skincolor carpenters, but that doesn't mean $skincolor carpenters are rare.

      Just because you haven't experienced or witnessed discrimination since the year of your birth to now, doesn't mean it was anything close to how it was in the past.

      Just because you haven't experienced or witnessed alien invasion since the year of your birth to now, doesn't mean it was anything close to how it was in the past.

      Logical fallacies are fun!

      Again I can't stress enough, you need to read some history if for no other reason than to learn your limits and not make such authoritative sounding yet factually incorrect stupid statements.

      Oh the irony.

    34. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dywolf · · Score: 0

      trust the idiots of /. to turn it around and present it as somehow being racist to write about someone who overcame the odds someone like would typically face in her society.

      she got lucky. millions of minorities and women are highly intelligent, and perfectly capable.
      but because of biases and attitudes many of them don't get a chance, even today, but especially back then.
      but she got lucky that somewhere, someone, made the decision, the right decision, to hire her even though it was against almost every norm of the day, recognized talent and didn't let those norms get in the way, and as a result she was a leading contributor to the success of the space program.

      the fact that her accomplishments are remarkable is itself an indictment of the way we treated, and continue to treat, minorities and women.
      the reason her story is remarkable isn't because of an implicit assumption that she could not have been intelligent (and its BS that you try to cast that aspersion on the writers). its remarkable because in her time, and in ours still, many women and minorities are never given the chance regardless of their merit. never given the chance, by people like you who try to cover their own racism by writing BS posts like the you just wrote.

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    35. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dywolf · · Score: 0

      racism doesn't go away because you stop talking about.
      not talking about it only lets it continue to exist, to continue to fester.

      because racism isn't your crazy uncle tossing slurs into casual conversation.
      That's bigotry.

      Racism is the system of structural imbalances that prevent minorities from achieving equality.

      Racism is the creation of capital and wealth from over 300 years of forced labor. Capital and wealth that created the wealth of the western civilization. Wealth that they aren't a part of.
      Racism is the implicit cultural fear of a majority of white folks of black people at night.
      Racism is the fact that 1 in 3 black males will be arrested in their lifetime, compared to 1 in 30 whites.
      Racism is the fact that while blacks make up 13% of the population, they are represented in entertainment (tv, Hollywood, stage) by less than 1% of roles.
      Racism is the fact that blacks are 31 times more likely to be shot by police than whites.
      Racism is the fact the white kids abuse drugs at a rate higher than blacks, yet blacks are 5x more likely to be arrested and sent to prison for it. and Of those arrested, whites are less likely to be set bond, bond they can never pay.
      Racism is the fact that blacks make up over half the prison population, but only 13% of the general population.
      Racism is persistent lack of funding to city services, such as police, fire, education, following the white flight to the suburbs.
      Racism is the fact it takes ~400k/yr to be part of the white 1%, but only 60k/yr to be part of the black 1%, and the median wage of the country is 54k/yr.
      Racism is the persistent disenfranchisement of black and miniority voters, through (bulls***) Voter ID laws, gerrymandering, and other tactics.

      And finally, racism is the persistent claim that if we just stop talking about it, it will go away.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    36. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that you're and ass-hole. Got it.

    37. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      I didn't know the KKK knew how to use computers. Nice.

    38. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      So you're saying you're a racist. Thanks for clarifying.

    39. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by rhazz · · Score: 1

      google 'morgan freeman black history'. He says it best; stop talking about it.

      And finally, racism is the persistent claim that if we just stop talking about it, it will go away.

      So Morgan Freeman is racist? Or maybe he just has different opinions on how to combat it?

    40. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's not black, she's even whiter than Michael Jackson: picture.
      Maybe she is of African descent, I don't know. But if they want to call her black she should have dark skin...

      Something which is seldom talked about is the racial discrimination among black people over their skin color. Keep in mind that Africa is a big place and slaves were taken from a wide variety of regions. Some had very light skin, some had very dark skin. Some had features much closer to what you'd find in places like Egypt, and even today those people are often told that they are not 'black enough' and/or are assumed to have mixed parentage.

    41. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Women we're not given jobs doing anything more than trivial tasks, and black people typically were NOT given jobs by white people at all because actually paying them anything was more than their labor was seen as worth.

      Besides the role of being computers (before the machines were worth using), including throughout intelligence agencies (e.g. breaking German encryption in WWII)? And you know that title "Secretary", which is the highest (or near to it) throughout Asia and important in the US and Europe...yeah, the one taken from corporations and now assumed (by Millenial brats) to be a little lady's "oh how cute" job? Well you know it was considered among the most important of roles (and in plenty of corporations, it still is), right? That it was considered suitable only for the highly skilled, and that women tended to hold it "because they have cooler heads and are willing to cooperate rather than fight over work and stab people in backs like the men--damn testosterone!", right?

      I mean...like, your entire, like, conception of recent history doesn't come out of straw narratives and other bullshit, doesn't it? Like you've actually talked to old women from the era or something...right?

    42. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Xabraxas · · Score: 1

      Are you always this stupid or did you hit your head this morning?

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    43. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Xabraxas · · Score: 1

      How did that work out? Not so good as I recall.

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    44. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Because we're denying her "right to self identify race, culture, and heritage". Or some such thing. Microaggression has to factor in as well!

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    45. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dywolf · · Score: 1

      (you cant bury the truth mods. its not flamebait, its not trolling. its cold hard fact)

      racism doesn't go away because you stop talking about.
      not talking about it only lets it continue to exist, to continue to fester.

      because racism isn't your crazy uncle tossing slurs into casual conversation.
      That's bigotry.

      Racism is the system of structural imbalances that prevent minorities from achieving equality.

      Racism is the creation of capital and wealth from over 300 years of forced labor. Capital and wealth that created the wealth of the western civilization. Wealth that they aren't a part of.
      Racism is the implicit cultural fear of a majority of white folks of black people at night.
      Racism is the fact that 1 in 3 black males will be arrested in their lifetime, compared to 1 in 30 whites.
      Racism is the fact that while blacks make up 13% of the population, they are represented in entertainment (tv, Hollywood, stage) by less than 1% of roles.
      Racism is the fact that blacks are 31 times more likely to be shot by police than whites.
      Racism is the fact the white kids abuse drugs at a rate higher than blacks, yet blacks are 5x more likely to be arrested and sent to prison for it. and Of those arrested, whites are less likely to be set bond, bond they can never pay.
      Racism is the fact that blacks make up over half the prison population, but only 13% of the general population.
      Racism is persistent lack of funding to city services, such as police, fire, education, following the white flight to the suburbs.
      Racism is the fact it takes ~400k/yr to be part of the white 1%, but only 60k/yr to be part of the black 1%, and the median wage of the country is 54k/yr.
      Racism is the persistent disenfranchisement of black and miniority voters, through (bulls***) Voter ID laws, gerrymandering, and other tactics.

      And finally, racism is the persistent claim that if we just stop talking about it, it will go away.

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    46. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Or maybe you heard something on social media taken out of context and are the ignorant one.

      THE CLOSING ARGUMENT THAT WAS OMMITTED FROM FACEBOOK REPOSTS:
      Freeman: I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And, I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace and you know me as Morgan Freeman. You don’t say, "Well, ahem! This white guy named Mike Wallace." You don’t say it.

      http://www.zakkeith.com/articl...

      He never said stop talking about racism. He said stop talking about his race.
      He said just talk about Morgan Freeman, not about Morgan Freeman the black man.

      --
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    47. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1
      http://www.visionaryproject.org/johnsonkatherine/

      On the bus ride to this first assignment (in Marion, VA), Katherine says she had her first experience with racism. She says when they crossed from West Virginia into Virginia, the bus stopped and all of the Black people had to move to the back, which Katherine did. Later, they had to change buses. All of the white passengers were allowed on the bus, but the Blacks were put into taxis. Katherine says the driver said “All you colored folk, come over here.” But she would not move until he asked her politely. Katherine also said her mother warned her, “Remember, you’re going to Virginia.” And that she said, “Well, tell them I’m coming.” Katherine says the racism was not as blatant in West Virginia as it was in Virginia.

    48. Re:It always seems kinda racist to me ... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      If you believe that one race is more worthy of mention than another race in someone of mixed heritage, you might just be the actual racist. Or perhaps your lack of comprehension is simply due to a mental deficiency.

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  8. Madlib for future similar posts and stories by bigdady92 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good for who did during .

    That way we can get all the outrage and praise in all at once.

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    1. Re:Madlib for future similar posts and stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > $CURRENT_YEAR
      > using <INSERT COLOR OF SKIN>
      > repeatedly <INSERT ...>ing
      > not standard "any of" variable naming, like $SKIN_COLOR
      "INSERT"ing is triggering to rape victims, you insertative clod!

    2. Re:Madlib for future similar posts and stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't insert WHITE and MALE, because you will be bashed and spit on by an angry mob of liberals.

  9. She wasn't the only one by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Informative

    There was a pool of women (and men) at NASA who were ALL referred to as "computers". NASA didn't start using electronic computers for flight dynamics calculations until 1962, and continued to rely on the pool to crosscheck the electronic calculations until 1984.

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    1. Re:She wasn't the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, and it wasn't just NASA. It was common in many industries. That's where our current use of the term "Computer" came from. They were seen as electronic versions of the people who used to do calculations.

    2. Re:She wasn't the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      There was a pool of women (and men) at NASA who were ALL referred to as "computers"

      Daaaamn. They were doing rocket science under water?! Much props.

    3. Re:She wasn't the only one by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there.

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      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
    4. Re:She wasn't the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Replacing computing employees with mechanical computers?!
      But the workplaces! We must not allow that! Stop the COMPUTERIZM! You are EVIL!

      -- Yours, Democrats

  10. on-board Flight Software by kairis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Margaret Hamilton wrote the on-board flight software.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    To me, all of them are great scientists, regardless of race.

    1. Re:on-board Flight Software by istartedi · · Score: 2

      I've never heard of her. I got off on a bit of a googling tangent, and found the company she started, Hamilton Technologies. They claim to have this thing called Universal Systems Language that incorporates all the lessons learned from developing the Apollo software. Maybe it does, but it's a proprietary language. By no means am I a free software zealot; but this looks like a classic case of holding on too tightly. I could not even find a "hello world" example in that language. Does anybody use it? I suppose it's possible that it might be entrenched in some obscure corners of aerospace, military, top-secret projects. Does anybody here have experience with their systems? Can you tell us without killing us?

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      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
    2. Re:on-board Flight Software by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      "To me, all of them are great scientists, regardless of race."

      I guess that means YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT WOMEN, HUH? /sarc

    3. Re:on-board Flight Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >To me, all of them are great scientists, regardless of race.
      Because you are not a racist.
      Everyone who refers to the race in any unscientific [1] way, both negative and *positive*, is racist. Just like the author of this article.

      [1] Scientific ways are e.g. statistics, where the 'race' is used as a feature of the source data. For example you can say:
      - black people in the U.S. are 13% percent of the population
      - black people in the U.S. are responsible for 50% of homicides
      But guess what, you won't see this published anywhere. Because *science* and *facts* are somehow 'racist'...

    4. Re:on-board Flight Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but even though she's a woman she's white, so that makes her almost male. That's why we'll never hear about her.

  11. Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Is it really necessary to bring the racial component into this?

    She is a brilliant woman who was instrumental in our space program. Isn't that enough?

    1. Re:Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it shows how NASA achieved the impossible.

      Everybody knows white males kept women and minorities from accomplishing *anything* until, oh, 1970 or so.

      That's when it became possible to say, "if they can put a man on the moon, why can't they name a woman CEO" etc.

    2. Re:Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Is it really necessary to bring the racial component into this?

      It's necessary for the apologists who are desperate to trot out the one in a million black person who isn't a criminal and who has actually done something worthwhile.

    3. Re:Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like the first female millionaire in the US?

    4. Re:Necessary? by kamakazi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it really necessary to bring the gender component into this?

      She is a brilliant person who was instrumental in our space program. Isn't that enough?

      There, fixed that for you.

      Seriously, as human beings, the people we look up to and emulate, the people who inspire us, are people with whom we identify in some way. The details are what allow us to identify with them.

      The particular person in this story is more readily inspirational to women, and to blacks, because they can identify with those facets of her identity.

      There are other details of her life that would add additional groups that could identify with her, people from her town, people who went to her school, people who share her hobbies, etc.

      If I reduce all people who do remarkable things to just 'persons' they are all amazing, but I can not identify with or emulate them, that requires details, handles for my emotions to grab on to.

      Currently I am looking for remarkable things done by mid 40s out of shape men, because I can identify with that. That means I can do great things too.

      On a tangent this is also why biographies are crucial reading. History is only history until you can identify with the individuals who made it.

      So in this case, you aren't black, or a woman, so it doesn't apply? Maybe you need to take 20 minutes and see if there is something you have in common with this person.

      (wiki......) Damn this woman was the bomb! She did a bunch of inspirational and important stuff before she went to work at NASA. Went to college to be a teacher, went back to grad school to desegregate it, spent 15+ years teaching, all before deciding to be a mathematician.

      Not really a lot for me to identify with, wikipedia doesn't have enough details. She lost her first husband to brain cancer, there is another detail that means something to a specific group of people. She sang in the church choir, that is something to some people. She had three daughters. I have a daughter. There are definitely things that she and I share in the parenting of daughters.

      Wow, raising three daughters with energy left to accomplish things. I identify with that.

      So is it really necessary to bring race or gender into this? Yes, it really is. Without them she is an achiever, with them she is a role model.

      --
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    5. Re:Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet they didn't even know she was black.

    6. Re:Necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it really necessary to bring the gender component into this?

      She is a brilliant person who was instrumental in our space program. Isn't that enough?

      And I will answer that, just so the clueless in the audience can have a bit of context. She was doing these remarkable things during a time when she regularly had to enter through the back door. And that was when she was even allowed to enter the building. During this time in our history she would often be forced to use a drinking fountain or a restroom that was segregated from whites, just so the white folks wouldn't get black cooties (or whatever). "Separate but equal" had just been struck down by the courts a mere few years prior. While I'm sure the astronauts who went to the Moon were grateful for her contributions, at the time NASA couldn't acknowledge her contributions too loudly in public because it would certainly have upset too many white Anglo-Saxons in America whose public support they relied on to accomplish their mission of putting a man on the Moon and bringing him safely back again. This is the wider context. Unfortunately, we still have with us a bunch of closeted rednecks who ask, "Why should her race or gender even matter to a summary of her accomplishments?" They seem to be wilfully, obstinately ignorant of history. This why it matters.

    7. Re:Necessary? by illtud · · Score: 1

      Mis-modified 'funny' - intended 'informative'. Posting to cancel.

  12. Uhhhh by hercludes · · Score: 2

    All I can think is if she's going to be remembered because of her work at NASA /or/ that she just because she was a black woman. In other words, would this video, this article, her popularity, etc etc, exist if she were not a black woman? Hmm.

    1. Re:Uhhhh by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Let's name all the other people who worked with her.

      What do you mean, we can't? There's your answer.

      It's sort of a first-man-on-the-moon scenario.

    2. Re:Uhhhh by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1
      Can you name another NASA engineer who wasn't a nazi?

      I didn't think so.

    3. Re:Uhhhh by Nkwe · · Score: 1

      All I can think is if she's going to be remembered because of her work at NASA /or/ that she just because she was a black woman. In other words, would this video, this article, her popularity, etc etc, exist if she were not a black woman? Hmm.

      Personally I would have been just as interested in the story if it were titled and about "The human computer that made the moon landing possible". Sure the black woman thing makes it more interesting to a broader audience (maybe), but as nerd (for which this site is supposed to cater to), the fact that it was a human that was used to double check a computer's computations, is interesting enough.

  13. Patently racist and sexist by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    All that headline leave out is the exclamation mark at the end. Why is it that we have to express such astonishment over the fact that a *black woman" (OMG!) calculated trajectories.

          Or is this less about this competent mathemetician's imopressive accomplishments, or it is to, yet again, wring our little hands over the injustice of modern society and how terrible we should all feel about how bad we are?

          The latter, I think

    1. Re:Patently racist and sexist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All that headline leave out is the exclamation mark at the end. Why is it that we have to express such astonishment over the fact that a *black woman" (OMG!) calculated trajectories.

            Or is this less about this competent mathemetician's imopressive accomplishments, or it is to, yet again, wring our little hands over the injustice of modern society and how terrible we should all feel about how bad we are?

            The latter, I think

      It's not about the fact that a woman (who also happens to be black) made the calculation for the moon landing.

      But rather, during the 50s and 60s, a time which was terribly sexist (because women were not treated as equals) and terribly racist (because people who are black were not treated as equals), a person who belonged to both groups did an amazing thing.

      The amazing thing is that much more amazing, not because of what the person was, but because of the environment in which they had to do it.

      For an analogy today, imagine hearing a news story about a Muslim who said "Allah Bless America" to a standing ovation at a Trump rally.

  14. Let's be sincere by OpenSourced · · Score: 1

    If she had been a man, we wouldn't have heard of him a lot either.

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    1. Re:Let's be sincere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she had been a man, we wouldn't have heard of him a lot either.

      As a man, she would have been exceptional. All the computers were women. Because it was a shit job, mindless and strenuous and entirely without glory. Which is why it is done completely by electronics these days. To a degree where a sales clerk these days can no longer do sums or, Lord beware, calculate change.

  15. Don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And neither should you. If you care that it was a woman, you're sexist. If you care that it was a minority, you're racist. If you think it has any bearing on current sex or race relations, you're a fool.

  16. So affirmative action isn't necessary? by swb · · Score: 2

    If she could get so good at math back then, why anyone should be able to do it now, right? We don't need to worry about the so-called education gap or take a bunch of extra steps to help black people overcome so-called obstacles because obviously if she was able to do it then, it should be much easier for even less skilled people to do it now.

    1. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's all I get out of these woman did this or black woman did that. It shows me that if you want it bad enough, your sex or race doesn't factor in. You go out there, work hard and achieve it.

    2. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It never was necessary and makes everything worse.

    3. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      One person overcoming the odds doesn't mean that everyone can do it. That's why they are called the odds.

      Also, if we want to have a meritocracy then everyone has to have a fair and equal chance. Different people start life in different positions (parent's wealth, location, and yeah, race) so unless some effort is made to even things out it's not selection on merit, it's selection on merit + personal circumstances.

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    4. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If she could get so good at math back then, why anyone should be able to do it now, right? We don't need to worry about the so-called education gap or take a bunch of extra steps to help black people overcome so-called obstacles because obviously if she was able to do it then, it should be much easier for even less skilled people to do it now.

      Brilliant... now an entire server farm can be outsourced. There is no need to stop at black people either. How many teraflops do you think North Korea can pull off given proper motivation?

    5. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      For the most part, I agree. And what is more, I think that the only real way to overcome racism or sexism is for someone to sit down and succeed despite disadvantage and then, more importantly, pass on their ethic and their culture of getting shit done to their children and others in their community.

      Every person on Earth, Kings, Queens or otherwise, likely has poor or disadvantaged people in their past at some point. There were days where you could capture white people on the Mediterranean and sell them into slavery in North Africa to Muslims as a common practice. Blacks sold other blacks into slavery. Asians certainly had slavery and other practices of servitude.

      There is nothing inherently superior, or inferior, or disadvantaged about being white or black. What *can* make you disadvantaged is your culture and how you look at life. If you work hard, you may still get fucked over, that possibility is *always* there. But over time you and your children will succeed because you will do what it takes to succeed and not allow temporary setbacks to stop you. And your children will see that and follow that example and they will be even better at it.

      If this woman worked hard, and succeeded, then she increased the chances that both her descendants, women or men, light or dark skinned, will also see that success and follow in her footsteps. But she and people like her, need to stand up for that culture of success and not allow themselves to become rare, and exceptional stories for Black History Month or some feelgood article about their horrid past dealing with segregation.

    6. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by swb · · Score: 1

      There is nothing inherently superior, or inferior, or disadvantaged about being white or black. What *can* make you disadvantaged is your culture and how you look at life.

      I think this is so true. My sense is that most black Americans are caught up in a psychology of failure and victimization which does far more damage than any systemic discrimination does these days.

      Unfortunately, it's a mass culture/sociological phenomenon that entraps individuals in ways that are almost impossible to overcome without abandoning the culture entirely or at least consciously repudiating it in some conscious way.

      What's worse is that politicians encourage it, reinforcing the idea that forces are conspiring to hold back the entire group. Worse than the pandering is the cynical way in which upholding this mindset not only validates it but encourages a patronage and dependency that perpetuates it.

      What's really regrettable is that the worst kind of overt racism probably prevented integration of blacks as members of the mainstream, when aspiration to mainstream social values would have meant assimilation. Now we're stuck with a self-defeating rejection of those values, a demand for equality of a culture that paradoxically produces its own inequality.

    7. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since then the US Government has destroyed the black family structure. But, just wait in a generation or two the US Government will make things equal by destroying the white family structure. Tim S. PS: Already awarded points to others that I did NOT wish to void.

    8. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. I'm sure she had a free ride to Haaaarvard thanks to her family's wealth and connections. Stop bullshitting yourself about the US being a meritocracy. The wealthy simply don't have to contend with the hurdles others face - and that extends to their children. You think George W would have even made it into a community college without the name? Nor do they have to work their asses off in between trying to study, putting them at an immediate disadvantage compared to their peers. Not only that, but think of the exclusion from networks that she would have faced, and others in her position would still face today.

      "Ewww. This sorority only, like, takes people who are like, spending time in Aspen. Duh!"

    9. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pushing this you are going to ruin careers of so many liberals... You must not be allowed to speak.

    10. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >One person overcoming the odds doesn't mean that everyone can do it.
      EVERYONE has the same 'odds' and obstacles to overcome. If she did it, then it is possible. If someone cannot do it, then this is THEIR OWN fault and weakness. Regardless what their skin color is.

      If you think otherwise, i.e. that blacks are somehow INFERIOR at overcoming the obstacles, then you are RACIST. Of course we can go further from there. ACCEPT them as inferior and try to help them using the system. But you won't be able to refer to them as EQUAL anymore. You can't have both, sorry.
      However I'm still for treating them equally and not giving them any unjustified aid.

    11. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by rhazz · · Score: 1

      EVERYONE has the same 'odds' and obstacles to overcome.

      +1 Funny.

    12. Re:So affirmative action isn't necessary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EVERYONE has the same 'odds' and obstacles to overcome.

      No, they don't.

  17. recently already covered on /. ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/01/18/0326231/katherine-johnson-nasas-pioneering-female-physicist

  18. Ah, it's a CASE tool by istartedi · · Score: 2

    OK, googled around a bit more. There's no "hello world" because it's a CASE tool--design abstractly in the GUI, dump out in the language of your choice.

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  19. One small step for black women by frovingslosh · · Score: 1, Funny

    I guess this would be a lot more impressive if we had actually gone to the moon in the 60's. But it's a nice feel good story and helps perpetuate Nixon's myth.

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  20. Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lies. The Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) was built by Raytheon and MIT.

  21. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sad part is that this merits any comment at all. In my experience, neither race nor gender have any bearing on a persons ability. It is pathetic that as a society we have not been able to move past this.

  22. I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by IcarusMoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean, if you are bold enough to spout racially regressive ideology, maybe attach your mostly anonymizing screen name to it. Many of the Anonymous Coward comments in this thread are part of the reason why the accomplishments of minorities and women continue to be seen as remarkable. Racism and sexism are endemic within tech industries, they are part of what drive the high turnover rate for minorities. I for one, choose not to work in private industry as I don't find the casual racism that exists there conducive to my quality of life. You ACs want to tell us one more thing about the negro?

    1. Re:I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've worked in tech for a few years now, and while I've never heard anyone advocating discrimination against women, blacks or hispanics, I have frequently heard people advocating discrimination against men, whites and asians. So I have to agree with you that racism and sexism are endemic within tech industries.

      Fortunately, it seems that a majority still believe that people should be treated the same, regardless of their race or sex.

    2. Re:I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by IcarusMoth · · Score: 1

      Cool, welcome to the club. I've worked in IT and Software Engineering for 22 years. The ideas that all non-white, non-male employees are A) "diversity hires" or B) too sensitive when they inevitably walk into the break room on the tail-end of a "nigger joke", some story about "fucking call center indians" or catching a peek at one of their female colleagues. I appreciate that a lot of it stems from the fact that for a long time technology houses were not just "boys clubs", but "white-only boys clubs"; and as such provided a "Safe-space" for these kinds of attitudes. But, really, it's time to grow up and embrace these very talented people, and not passive-aggressively try to destroy them. You'll have to show me some serious data on discrimination against white and Asian males. The best available empirical data doesn't support that, so I can only assume that you've been hiding it for just the right moment... like your final form.

    3. Re:I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His "data" is just as verifiable as yours (it isn't). Therefore, he has no burden to counter your own personal experience. But if we all really want to argue datapoints, I've worked in tech for over 10 years as a white male and have not been privy to openly discussed discrimination about employees or candidates based solely on their race, religion or gender. Some of my best co-workers (both in technical aptitude and as friends) don't share my race or gender.

      Bonus points for using "empirical" without a cited source.

    4. Re:I see the RACs are out in Full force today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you are being sincere, so please don't take this as a personal attack.
      Of course tech employers aren't *advocating* discrimination against anyone, and I don't think anyone is claiming that they do. They are just *practicing* discrimination, and there is statistical evidence that shows it is happening -- whether it is conscious or not.

  23. Title politically incorrect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not supposed to say "Black" when describing ethnicity. And, "Woman" is borderline. Please correct.

    1. Re:Title politically incorrect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're using "Woman" to describe ethnicity you're very confused.

    2. Re:Title politically incorrect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was supposed to say ... as a gender. Regardless, I think this type of article is racist mongering bullshit.

  24. Equality by kuzb · · Score: 0

    If we're so hell bent on equality, why is it necessary to write an article that specifically extols the facts that she was black and a woman? If we want to get to where equality is actually achievable we need to stop seeing gender and colour as such a big deal and focus specifically on the accomplishments of the person.

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    1. Re:Equality by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      It is supposed to be inspirational.

      Of course, it reads like a morality play about the evils of segregation, so instead of inspiration, we keep having to be reminded of how some smart woman who clearly did a lot of important work, got constantly screwed over because she was black and a woman but somehow managed to do work anyway.

      If this is the inspiration that women and blacks of today are reading, it's no wonder they're mad and disenchanted. Would I have gotten into IT if everyone told me that I would have to be a brave pioneer to do so? Fuck, no. I got into IT because I liked it, and no one discouraged me through horror stories of what it was like.

    2. Re:Equality by kuzb · · Score: 0

      Right. The problem is they're not going to get their equality if all it means is that people who aren't black and/or female are suddenly treated like the enemy who has to feel guilty for crimes they had no part in.

      The cycle of idiocy ends when everyone stops perpetuating it on both sides. Currently the ball is in the Black/Female court, but they don't seem to understand that what they're doing now by treating everyone else like they were directly responsible is just as damaging as bringing back apartheid.

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  25. She isn't black or white, but you are racist. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 0

    I a sick and tired of this American cultural perversion that sees anyone that has any Africa ancestors labelled as if that mattered, when the truth is we are all descended from Africans.

    If you think a persons race is relevant you are racist, period, despite the fact that the entire concept of race is questionable.

    1. Re:She isn't black or white, but you are racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "when the truth is we are all descended from Africans"

      Some recent Scientific discoveries would disagree with you.

    2. Re:She isn't black or white, but you are racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      when the truth is we are all descended from Africans.

      You're not from Texas are you?

    3. Re:She isn't black or white, but you are racist. by rhazz · · Score: 1

      Best I can tell, the other scientific discoveries just change the origin location - e.g. rather than Africa 50,000 years ago, it was Australia 80,000 years ago. etc.

    4. Re:She isn't black or white, but you are racist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've heard about that theory, it's highly speculative because it implies we should find ruins of 80,000-year-old settlements all along the coasts of Southeast Asia and India, and they just aren't there.

  26. Must...make...joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 'Human Computer' Behind the Moon Landing Was a black woman (video)

    She was a first-gen Voodoo-card?

  27. Everyone is special by markdavis · · Score: 1

    >"the African American woman who earned the nickname 'the human computer' at NASA during its space race golden age."

    There are probably a number black women as well as European American women, and all kinds of people people of all races, creeds, religions, sexual orientations, etc behind all the workings of NASA that we have never heard of before.

  28. Abandon all hope ye who enter here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've never seen so many comments from people proudly proclaiming how offended they are that someone who did something historically important was identified as black.

    Apparently we should go back to writing history books that pretend that everyone who did everything important was white. Who needs non-white role models, after all?

    1. Re:Abandon all hope ye who enter here by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Would you have gone into whatever field you were in if someone kept telling you that they had to be super brave just to deal with trying to get a job like you're looking at?

      Sometimes I think these "role-model" stories are written more like cautionary stories that play up the drama of being segregated. Perhaps you don't need the black face of someone who had to struggle through their field to actually do it. Maybe if you told a story of someone who simply enjoyed their work, white or black, you would have a role model and an example that would be encouraging, rather than discouraging.

      You know, when I read an article like this, I am more emotionally moved to become a Freedom Rider than I am be to become a physicist.

  29. Black ? by hagnat · · Score: 1

    i think i need to get my eyes checked
    that women would pass as white anywhere :P

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    1. Re:Black ? by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      As much as I agree, you'd be surprised just how clear her background would have been to the people in the South at that time. There would be a lot of cues, and people at that time would err on the side of considering you "colored" if they even suspected it.

      Of course, it wouldn't have hurt that she probably conformed with the rules and roles about being African so she didn't do something her own, possibly darker, family members could not have gotten away with.

      If there was a law passed that made Latin looking people have to sit at the back of the bus, some of my close relatives would have to go to the back, but no one would question if I sat in the front seat. Nevertheless, you can be sure I wouldn't ditch my family and assume a privilege that they would not have simply because of the accident of my hair and skin coloration and features.

  30. Re:Did white men like us do anything, ever, daddy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just tell him we owned slaves.

  31. Impressive! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Taking into account the IQ distributions of women and blacks, she must have had a few noteworthy mutations which allowed her to perform these surprisingly human tasks.

  32. It means she’s awesomer than you. by Theovon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually it IS amazing that a person who is BLACK and a WOMAN could get into such an important position back in the 1950’s and 1960’s. Today we recognize it as foolish and stupid to prejudge someone’s abilit to DO MATH (for instance) on the basis of gender or skin color. But back then?

    What this tells us is that she’s fucking awesome, more awesome than you and me. She’s so awesome that people at NASA in an era that only valued white men simply were unable to deny the level of her skill. To break through the prejudice required that she have skill way beyond what a white male would have needed to get into the same job.

    So yeah. Kudos to this woman for her intelligence, skill, and persistence in an era that would have otherwise begrudged her a job as a toilet cleaner.

    1. Re:It means she’s awesomer than you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if she was the first black female NASA astronaut, but Mae Jemison was the first such to fly. I had the chance to meet her (before that flight) once at a conference. Yes, awesomer than me (I only made it to astronaut candidate), a medical doctor, and good enough looking to be a model.

      I tell ya, if I hadn't already been married.... (Competence is sexy.)

    2. Re:It means she’s awesomer than you. by YA_Python_dev · · Score: 1

      skin color

      I'm sorry, what color are we talking about exactly? This is what she looks like: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Katherine-johnson.jpg.

      Also your rambling about men at NASA doesn't make sense: most people with job title "computer" at NASA were women, it was a female-dominated field.

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    3. Re:It means she’s awesomer than you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *OR* she was hired because 'muh diversity' and couldn't do any other useful job at NASA apart from being a living calculator.

    4. Re:It means she’s awesomer than you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make no mistake: she was definitely black enough to face significant discrimination. She is clearly of African descent despite her light skin color, and people were definitely paying attention to such things in the time of open institutionalized racism.

      Even if she had appeared completely white, she could easily have run afoul of the "one drop of blood" rule.

  33. RIGHT ON!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    U go gurl!!!!

    congrats on the recognition you so richly deserve..

    best wishes and thank you for your contributions to help further the "cause"

    We in the community..

  34. OHMYGOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Human computer?! So they kept her chained up or something? I can picture it now :( /s

  35. Actually I have heard of her. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From a Slashdot article this last January:
    https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/01/18/0326231/katherine-johnson-nasas-pioneering-female-physicist

    > To top it off, she did it all as a black woman in the 1950s and 60s, when women at NASA were not even invited to meetings.

    And the January article contained bullshit discriminatory assertions about NASA as well. She went to meetings, her name was listed on every paper she contributed to. Fucking racist SJW's don't know history at all.

  36. Pure Racism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Liberals are the true and pure racists.

    Instead of bringing up a story about a remarkable person that did a remarkable thing, it's stated in a confrontational and inflammatory way that she was a woman and was black. (Take that you crack'as.) As also stated by others, there are out-right lies in the article as well.

    Those who see everyone and everything in racial terms are the true racists.

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Too bad liberals do not get what the above quote really means.

    1. Re:Pure Racism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of bringing up a story about a remarkable person that did a remarkable thing, it's stated in a confrontational and inflammatory way that she was a woman and was black. (Take that you crack'as.)

      And this will keep on happening until all the closeted "crackas" get over themselves. We are long past overdue for that to happen. I worry that it won't happen in my lifetime.

    2. Re:Pure Racism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS

      Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  37. Re: Cue thick white men... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not one person to fill your cup.
    You must be sooooo thirsty!

  38. Human computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't anyone who did computations back then called a human computer?

  39. Good ol America - We've not racist........ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but we have to tell you the colour of someone's skin each time we talk about someone who isn't white....

  40. Black Woman are genetically superior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously, this shows that shows that. Otherwise, why would you highlight that as the most significant attribute of this person to be there ancestry and gendwr, two things that were determined at birth.

  41. lem.bas by mdsolar · · Score: 1

    I remember those days. Used to crash into the suface all the time playing lem.bas on a teletype. Glad she was better than me.

  42. Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...would someone doing their job and also being black be news.

  43. Re:Please explain by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Are you aware how racist and ignorant this comment makes you? If you actually believe this nonsense, I feel sorry for you.

  44. Perfect and Thank You! by drainbramage · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately none of the "offended by the obvious racism" will understand what you pointed out.
    Worse yet, the article is obviously false because everyone at NASA was racist and sexist so it is impossible that any woman or other "minority" was ever hired.
    Now days we know there were no black teachers, lawyers, scientists, inventors, or doctors when the Americans fought the war of independence from England.
    It wasn't until Linden Johnson became president, right?

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  45. You're missing the context by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    a black woman in the 50s had the proverbial snowballs chance in hell of doing what she did. It's speaks volumes to her genius that she wasn't shut out.

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  46. Time to update an old saying... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A black woman could put a man on the moon... but she still can't get NOMINATED for an Oscar!

  47. Made me laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "she did it all as a black woman"

    Did she do anything as a white woman? I vote this article, most racist of the year.

  48. the conspiracy goes farther than I thought by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    I knew that they had faked the moon landing and that Stanley Kubrick had been enlisted by Nixon to help win the space race against Russia but now you're telling me that rather than have a real computer plot the course they just used a black woman?

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    1. Re:the conspiracy goes farther than I thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The conspiracy goes even further:
      Up to this day there is a little nigger inside of your CPU.
      Welcome to the real world.

  49. Racism is fine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This article is racist.

    Have you ever seen an article like that:
    - "Facebook founder is a white man"
    - "White male does the very first walk on the moon"
    No? Guess why. Because they would be needlessly racist. And so is your stupid article.

    Who cares what was her skin color and sex?
    You do? Then, by the very definition, *you* are racist and sexist.

    1. Re:Racism is fine? by neminem · · Score: 1

      I disagree. If there was an article about how a black woman *now* did something, it would be sort of how you described it, because duh, who cares, it's not news that someone of a gender and skin color did something noteworthy, there's nothing stopping them.

      But that is because we've come a huge way since the 50s, when there were absolutely *loads* of things stopping them, which absolutely does make this story interesting, newsworthy, and impressive, because back in those days, women and black people were overtly, majorly disenfranchised in pretty much every possible way. Two totally different things.

  50. The author is a notorious RACIST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check the articles by bricko: https://slashdot.org/~bricko
    A liberal or an idiot?

  51. accurate 'mathematician' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >accurate mathematician
    You are not a mathematician if all you do are calculations.
    Go back to school because you are delusional.

  52. Re:She's not black. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THIS
    She is not even really black.
    -1 from liberals not being able to face the truth.

  53. Most of commentators agree with you by Trachman · · Score: 1

    And so do I. Now, for the sake of the thought experimentation, let's imagine we have a second scenario. Same color, however exactly opposite academic and professional achievements. No achievements or accomplishments, to be precise.

    All of the sudden, discussing about racism and underprivileged becomes acceptable. To me, that is the real racism.

    As if women of color are not capable of making decisions. They are more than capable and there are a lot of inspiring examples, let's start from Madam C.J.Walker ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... )

  54. Re:Please explain by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    He's right.

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  55. but was she black? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Black Woman...black woman...black woman...African American woman

    OK, so I got that she was a woman (since you mentioned it 4 times in the post), but I'm a little confused....was she black too?

  56. Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read the comments below...am I the only person in existence who doesn't care about skin colour, and judges people on what they do?

    Seriously, who cares if someone's black or white...if they have talent and ability, they have talent and ability.

  57. article has racist premise by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    The headline implies it is hard to do anything significant as a black woman.

    Or else why do they think this is newsworthy?

    SJWs aren't just anti-white. They're anti-black, anti-hispanic ... in other words, misanthropes.

  58. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are we supposed to give her special attention because she's black and/or female?

  59. Seems unlikely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. It seems unlikely that this is coming out all these years later.

    2. There were many computers on that project.

    3. This is most likely politically correct BS.

    4. None of the black women I know are particularly competent; they gripe to get affirmative action to get a degree, to get a job, and to keep a job. Maybe Apollo was before affirmative action, but I would not trust a gerbil to a black woman's calculations. Sorry, but that is the reality of affirmative action.