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Slashdot Asks: What's Your View On Speed Reading?

Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two? Certainly, many people do that. The phenomenon of speed reading is nothing new with plenty of people claiming that they have grown habituated -- or taught themselves into -- reading things in an accelerated fashion. Not everyone -- including yours truly -- is a fan of this. There are several studies that suggest that 'speed reading' result in people missing out on lots of tidbits. A New York Times article, published Friday, also suggests the same. Jeffrey M. Zacks, and Rebecca Treiman, in an op-ed, citing a recent article in Psychological Science in the Public Interest, claim that "it's extremely unlikely you can greatly improve your reading speed without missing out on a lot of meaning." They write: Certainly, readers are capable of rapidly scanning a text to find a specific word or piece of information, or to pick up a general idea of what the text is about. But this is skimming, not reading. We can definitely skim, and it may be that speed-reading systems help people skim better.Which brings us to the question: What's your view on speed reading?

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  1. From a previous comment on /. by BlackPignouf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I took a speed reading course where you run your finger down the middle of the page and was able to read 'War and Peace' in twenty minutes. It's about Russia.

    1. Re:From a previous comment on /. by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      I don't think you can pin a number on "speed reading". I took a speed reading class in college, and went in reading faster than anyone else came out of it reading. It did triple my reading speed at a slight decrease in comprehension.

      It took me less time to read True Grit than to watch either movie (the book sucked).

  2. No. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two?

    I read fiction for relaxation and to enjoy, become mentally immersed in the story, not just to acquire the text in my memory.

    To be honest, for me at least, the same often applies to technical material.

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    1. Re:No. by Grog6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree that speed reading novels is a bummer.

      The Elementary school I went to had a reading class for the kids that could already read well by third grade; I'm sure it was someone's research project. :)

      The used a tachistoscope to allow reading one line at a time, and gave tests over the content.

      I worked up to 470 something wpm, with 98% comprehension; others in my class did better.

      Several kids could max out the machine. :)

      I've read Steven King's "IT" in a weekend, with sleep. Well, some, anyway.

      Books are over way too quick for me.

      Technical stuff is different; reading doesn't make the math any easier, lol.

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    2. Re:No. by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Another technical journal Scotty?"

      "Aye"

      "Dont you ever relax?"

      "I am relaxing!"

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    3. Re:No. by rasmusbr · · Score: 2

      You know, that really depends.

      If you're literally reading War and Peace you probably want to slow down a lot and think about what's going on. You may want to go back and re-read a particularly good or interesting passage. You will probably need to go and look things on Wikipedia for proper context. The same thing goes for a lot of older literature and literature from other cultures, like for instance the Old Testament books.

      If you're reading Dan Brown's latest masterpiece or something else in that vein, then you're basically reading a hollywood movie script, which is best enjoyed at a very high pace.

    4. Re: No. by UttBuggly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm 60, and was sick a great deal from about 3-8. I was taught a speed reading method to keep up with my class. I also have extraordinary memory skills...not quite Marilu Henner...but close.

      So, I tend to have great retention which has been a blessing and a curse. I mean, school was stupidly easy so I never learned how to study or do research; I could just read the material and take the test.

      Speed reading is good for some folks, I'd say. But, it may cause you to be a little lazy and undisciplined.

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    5. Re:No. by inode_buddha · · Score: 2

      Cheesy to reply my own post, but I seem to have attracted some random twink with no sense of humor and the tenacity of APK.

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    6. Re: No. by KGIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I... I understand. I don't think many realize how introspective, almost profound, your statement was. I test like a genius. I really am not that smart. I don't even have long-term memory, it's like it holds it long enough to be dumped. When it no longer needs it, it cycles out the unimportant (it thinks) stuff and leaves me with vague recollections. On paper, I'm a genius. My thesis was the hardest thing I've done in my life - I'm also not even very creative.

      In classes where I could get away with it, I used to read the books in the first week of the semester/year and just leave it and not bother with it for the rest of the year. That was rather effective until I hit college. I have my Ph.D. but it was a pain in the ass. On paper, I look like I'm brilliant. That's not even remotely the case. I just seem to retain things really well - until it gets dumped. Once it's dumped, it quickly fades unless there's a reason for me to keep using it.

      It's why I'll reference stuff like, "It was in that documentary, by what's his face - the guy who has the photo technique named after him... Burns, yeah, him... Anyhow, it was in that documentary but I'll be damned if I can remember what it was about but I know they mentioned it and had several references for it. Oh, it was also about the rum-running, so it must have been his prohibition documentary or, wait, wait... It might have actually been about the period before and during prohibition - but it was about it, nonetheless. And that's what it reminds me of."

      It's like my brain functions a bit like RAM. I liken it to a hard drive that needs to be defragged or given a full low-level reformat but it's more like RAM in that once it is used and no longer needed then it is freed up for another application with no remnants left behind unless you have special forensic tools. :/ Once the test is over, the paper's handed in, the questions asked, and the data no longer needed - it's fading, fading with an alarming speed. I'm a couple of years younger than you, I swear it feels like I can feel my brain plasticize. So, I keep doing things to ensure my memory is getting a work out. I keep learning new things. I've returned to doing some programming - I've been retired for eight years now. I've even started to put a few things online and I'm working on a few other projects - all to keep the memory from going.

      I fear that more than I fear death. I don't think that's vanity speaking, I seriously need what memory I have. I've just never really retained it, not very well, unless it was something that got lots of recollection, work, or emphasis. Even then, it's tough to be motivated when you can just reread it and retain it well enough for the next exam. How very true, it can (and might) foster laziness - and apathy.

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    7. Re:No. by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      If I'd had to buy all the books I've read I wouldn't have been able to read 99.99% of what I've read. When I was about 12 I'd visit the library daily and bring half a dozen books home.

      I don't think e-books should cost, because you don't actually OWN anything (I give my own e-books away for free on my web site). Reading has always been free. Physical objects have monetary value, virtual objects like e-books and MP3s can't be legally given away or resold, so are completely valueless in a monetary sense.

    8. Re: No. by Kvathe · · Score: 2

      It's amazing how well the comments in this thread describe me.

      During my middle-high school years I read voraciously, mostly fantasy, about 2-3 books per week. My memory is poor enough that after a few months I would only have vague ideas about the plot, and could happily re-read a book after a couple years and still be surprised. However, I never had any problems with school. I learned very quickly and tested extremely well. Like the parent, I was very good at quickly grasping concepts, so testing was easy since answers were all intuitive. I was accepted into a university with two scholarships and was admitted into the honors college.

      Unfortunately, what worked in high school doesn't really cut it anymore. I'm currently a senior in mechanical engineering and having trouble passing classes. Concepts are too complex for me to grasp in lecture anymore, and I never learned how to study. It takes time and practice to really understand the coursework, and it's time that I'm not used to putting in. Assigned work takes multiple days to complete, when I'm used to doing everything the day before. It's past time for me to buckle down and learn how to work for it like everyone else does, but habits are hard to change.

  3. There's meaning and there's 'meaning' by FireballX301 · · Score: 2

    If all you want to do is figure out what's happening, speed reading does what you want - tells you what's going on. You isolate the actual actions and events of the story from the cruft. Writing generally has a ratio of meaningful descriptors versus 'words for their own sake' nonsense, ranging from technical writing to Finnegan's Wake, and speed reading lets you handle most of the former quickly.

    Does it help you figure out what's going on in Finnegan's Wake, no, but I find that works on that spectrum of the scale aren't really worth bothering with anyway. If it literally cannot be speed-read because there's not enough clear descriptors (in an attempt to infuse their work with some variant version of 'meaning'), it's just an linguist's mental masturbation on a page

  4. enjoy the book again and again by lkcl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i like speed-reading. i used to read 2-3 sci-fi / fantasy a week, except the 800-1000 page monsters like the robert jordan series, which often took me 4-6 days of continuous reading, and except asimov's detective stories about elijah bailey, which were incredibly dense logical reasoning (necessary for a detective and his partner). the thing i like about speed-reading is that when you come back to the same book in 4 to 12 months time, it's enjoyable - again - because you find things that you missed the first time. so the point that this article is making i see is an *advantage*... not a disadvantage.

    1. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the thing i like about speed-reading is that when you come back to the same book in 4 to 12 months time, it's enjoyable - again - because you find things that you missed the first time. so the point that this article is making i see is an *advantage*... not a disadvantage.

      It also means that you didn't enjoy it to its fullest the first time around.
      It also means that there is a high probability that you can "read" a book and miss the good part about it, thinking that it was crap.

    2. Re:enjoy the book again and again by bidule · · Score: 2

      It also means that there is a high probability that you can "read" a book and miss the good part about it, thinking that it was crap.

      If there's only one good part, it's crap anyway. If there's 10 good parts in a chapter and you miss half of them, you still have 5 reasons it's not crap. The "high probability" you missed them all is 0.5^5 = 3%.

      Maybe if you repeatedly skimmed the good parts, for instance fauna & flora descriptions bore you to tears. But then, the good parts are crap to you.

      So no, it's not possible to miss enough parts to turn a good book into crap.

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  5. My view by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot Asks: What's Your View On Speed Reading?

    I think more should be spent on determining the correct limits for different roads, and that red light cameras make things worse. Next question?

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  6. It works by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

    1. Re:It works by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 2

      But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

      I'm going to go ahead and disagree on that one. My basement library is just shy of a thousand novels and by no means contains all that I've read in my life. I have a philosophy that I don't give up on a book, no matter how crappy it is. There's almost always a nugget of "worthwhile" somewhere in there. But some authors are bad at various things. From realistic dialogue to exposition to dialogue, there's often something that's really not worth reading. I've become very good at catching on what's bad within a few chapters, and skimming through that type of material.

      Sure, you don't speed-read/skim through say... Douglas Adams. The whole point is the intricate wordplay. It takes a lot of time for me to make it through good writing, such as Iain M. Banks. On the other hand, I can plow through lesser works rapidly and derive enjoyment. Some mediocre books I re-read, simply because - like The Princess Bride - the "just the good bits" edition can be much, much better than the original.

      So don't assume. I often get more pleasure out of skimming... which is why I do it.

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  7. my view on speed-readers is by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Funny

    that they can use any public bathroom with which they identify.

  8. Be Careful What You Wish For by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I spent several years trying to get help for dyslexia. A lot of school counsellors assumed it was what I was dealing with.

    Right up to the point one caught that what I was actually doing was self taught speed reading everything and couldn't switch the damn thing off.

    You have no idea how annoying it is to know a piece of information MUST exist within a passage but no amount of rereading, trying to slow yourself down, will get you to stop skipping over it because your brain has already decided it knows what is said.

    As a simple example: Bob has $10. He pays dollars in tax. What percentage does Bob pay?

    It's a standard question pattern. You know damn well that there must be an amount of dollars Bob paid in tax. You know the question likely has something like TWO in there and the answer would be twenty percent. But you read it over and over and the TWO never reveals itself because your brain has already decided it knows what the passage says.

    It made chunks of my degree miserable. I knew the concepts, could study faster than most others, yet kept missing key parts of often simple questions in the exams.

    Once I learned what I was doing, a hell of a lot of practice has weeded most of it back out at the expense of reading slower.

    So, yeah, speed reading is great. Until it isn't. And then really isn't when you can't stop it.

    1. Re:Be Careful What You Wish For by kiphat · · Score: 2

      I had to read your comment at least 10 times to realize that you actually omitted the number TWO(2) from the problem... Or did you?

  9. As a kid I was reading with a "buffer" by Kartu · · Score: 2

    My eyes were about a sentence ahead of the point I was understanding (comprehending? whatever, not a native English speaker).
    At some point I stopped reading a lot and had lost that skill and now I read about 1.5 times slower than back then.
    I can't recall any negative side effects, such as rememberiing or missing out things.
    Mother told me, one of the librarians, who was suspicious about little kid (10 years old) reading so many books so quickly ("maybe he just skims through for pictures?"), asked questions about stories in them. I gave correct answers to all questions. I don't remember the episode, although I remember librarian that was extremely kind in helping me find something interesting to read.

  10. TLDR by darkain · · Score: 5, Funny

    TLDR

  11. I can't believe I actually read that by mandy2tom · · Score: 3, Funny

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  12. Any other symptoms? by iam_TJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That sounds like the reading equivalent of 'jumping to conclusions' in spoken conversation where the subject believes they already know how a sentence is going to be completed and jumps in with an answer before the speaker has finished.

    How did you combat it? Does word-counting help? Does it affect both printed and electronically displayed text? Do you get any other symptoms like headaches?

    It reminds me of some of the symptoms of Visual Stress a.k.a. Meares-Irlin syndrome [0].

    I helped a friend many years ago (2002) who was thought to be dumb because he seemed unable to absorb written material and after 1/2 a page would switch to light skim-reading ("speed reading") and/or distract himself in any way possible. Being questioned on the material later he would be unable to answer many questions due to skimming over the material, leading to the 'dumb' tag.

    He would also sometimes complain of severe headaches that could last days. Since childhood parents, teachers and doctors had tried to find a cause and subjected him to all sorts of tests with no result.

    One day whilst we were focused on some programming he complained of a headache. Being the first time I'd witnessed his symptoms I asked him to describe exactly what he was experiencing. It turned out the printing would begin to swim around and blur in and out of focus and get worse the longer he tried to focus on it. He'd never been asked this question before and had assumed everyone experienced this and had not mentioned it.

    After some research I discovered Professor Arnold Wilkins at Essex University, U.K., had developed a diagnostic test that identified the cause and possible counter-measures.  Meares-Irlen syndrome is a visual acuity abnormality that can be partially or fully re-mediated with the use of colour filters, with each sufferer needing filters tailored to them - rather like a lens prescription for glasses.

    We visited the university and my friend undertook the test and immediately noticed an improvement once the correct colour filter was identified. These tests were done whilst placing permutations of coloured transparencies over printed material (black text on white paper).

    As a result I wrote a program that detected and applied the correct colour overlay to the computer screen and it worked as well as the transparencies but the colour required was quite different - due to the differences between reflective and transmissive light.

    [0] "Colour in the treatment of visual stress" http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/
    [1] "READING THROUGH COLOUR" http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/book2.pdf

  13. Re:Ellen Wood Speed Reading Course.... by Xojo · · Score: 2
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  14. Speed vs retention by Chas · · Score: 2

    The big tradeoff most people get with speed reading is lack of the ability to actually retain the information beyond cursory information (see the War and Peace joke above).

    While my reading speed is accelerated, it's not as fast as it possibly could be. But my general retention is quite high.
    There's also the fact that, with my preferred material, I tend to re-read books over time. So my overall retention of material tends to increase with subsequent exposures.

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  15. Slashdot Takes Speed Reading to the Next Level! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 2

    Here at Slashdot, no one ever RTFA at all. It's much faster that way.

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  16. No fan either by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    "Not everyone -- including yours truly -- is a fan of this. There are several studies that suggest that 'speed reading' result in people missing out on lots of tidbits."

    I'm not a fan either for recreational reading, but for work or science stuff, where most of the words are 'filling' and not much of it real information, it's OK.

    And now for a joke that you can't speed read.

    Last week I was in a zoo, where they had just a single animal, a dog.
    It was a Shitzu.

  17. Re: None the less it works by mcgrew · · Score: 2

    how do you know that people reading out loud can't also see and hear what's going on in their minds?

    Because I wasn't born with the ability to read and can remember not knowing how, and can remember learning.