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Slashdot Asks: What's Your View On Speed Reading?

Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two? Certainly, many people do that. The phenomenon of speed reading is nothing new with plenty of people claiming that they have grown habituated -- or taught themselves into -- reading things in an accelerated fashion. Not everyone -- including yours truly -- is a fan of this. There are several studies that suggest that 'speed reading' result in people missing out on lots of tidbits. A New York Times article, published Friday, also suggests the same. Jeffrey M. Zacks, and Rebecca Treiman, in an op-ed, citing a recent article in Psychological Science in the Public Interest, claim that "it's extremely unlikely you can greatly improve your reading speed without missing out on a lot of meaning." They write: Certainly, readers are capable of rapidly scanning a text to find a specific word or piece of information, or to pick up a general idea of what the text is about. But this is skimming, not reading. We can definitely skim, and it may be that speed-reading systems help people skim better.Which brings us to the question: What's your view on speed reading?

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  1. From a previous comment on /. by BlackPignouf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I took a speed reading course where you run your finger down the middle of the page and was able to read 'War and Peace' in twenty minutes. It's about Russia.

    1. Re:From a previous comment on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The joke is from a previous comment on Slashdot, but they likely got it from Woody Allen.

    2. Re:From a previous comment on /. by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I do read very fast. Significantly faster then most people can speak or understand spoken word. Is it speed reading? Some might think so. Do I miss anything? No. I just process the information faster then others do visually.

      This is why those videos of people holding up cards to read DRIVE ME NUTS!

    3. Re:From a previous comment on /. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's not that far off. Though I've never taken a course or anything, I am able to read really quickly. I can eat a Stephen King novel in an afternoon. I retain it for a few hours, maybe a day and that's it. If I read at speedy rates, I retain very little of it. I'll remember the gist of it but I won't even remember character names, locations, or things like that. I recall some specific events - probably enough to be almost conversational so long as I'm honest about having not actually read it with the goal to retain it.

      I do so quite frequently, even here on Slashdot. If it's a thread or a person's name then I slow down and pay more attention but the average comment is just one that I glance over. If it looks interesting (and not too stupid) then I'll slow down and maybe even restart that post and read it again but a bit slower. I find it comes in handy as I'm not always out to learn something. Sometimes, I am just wanting to be entertained. My brain is already full of silly things. I don't need to try to cram more stuff in there all the time. Sometimes, I just want to be entertained.

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    4. Re:From a previous comment on /. by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      I don't think you can pin a number on "speed reading". I took a speed reading class in college, and went in reading faster than anyone else came out of it reading. It did triple my reading speed at a slight decrease in comprehension.

      It took me less time to read True Grit than to watch either movie (the book sucked).

    5. Re:From a previous comment on /. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I'm the opposite. Although I read very fast ("The Green Mile" took a few hours) it sticks. But show me a photodocumentary or a talking head and it will NOT stay in my brain at all.

    6. Re:From a previous comment on /. by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

      Well, that's a relief. Now I don't have to post anything.

      Oh, wait ...

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    7. Re:From a previous comment on /. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Speed reading is about ten times faster than your impression of reading.

      Everyone can read significantly faster than he can talk.

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  2. No. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two?

    I read fiction for relaxation and to enjoy, become mentally immersed in the story, not just to acquire the text in my memory.

    To be honest, for me at least, the same often applies to technical material.

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    1. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I agree wholeheartedly. Reading is fun relaxation for me. Sure, I could speed it up. I could also speak triple the speed I normally do in chatting with friends, and they could speak triple the speed back...but would I enjoy it just as much? No.
      I can walk down the street for fun, if I run as fast as I can is it triple the fun? No.

    2. Re:No. by Grog6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I agree that speed reading novels is a bummer.

      The Elementary school I went to had a reading class for the kids that could already read well by third grade; I'm sure it was someone's research project. :)

      The used a tachistoscope to allow reading one line at a time, and gave tests over the content.

      I worked up to 470 something wpm, with 98% comprehension; others in my class did better.

      Several kids could max out the machine. :)

      I've read Steven King's "IT" in a weekend, with sleep. Well, some, anyway.

      Books are over way too quick for me.

      Technical stuff is different; reading doesn't make the math any easier, lol.

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    3. Re:No. by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Another technical journal Scotty?"

      "Aye"

      "Dont you ever relax?"

      "I am relaxing!"

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    4. Re:No. by inode_buddha · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Like you said, I think it depends on the material and the circumstances. For example, I read goatse very quickly and I couldn't close the browser fast enough. Other things, I slow down.

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    5. Re:No. by rasmusbr · · Score: 2

      You know, that really depends.

      If you're literally reading War and Peace you probably want to slow down a lot and think about what's going on. You may want to go back and re-read a particularly good or interesting passage. You will probably need to go and look things on Wikipedia for proper context. The same thing goes for a lot of older literature and literature from other cultures, like for instance the Old Testament books.

      If you're reading Dan Brown's latest masterpiece or something else in that vein, then you're basically reading a hollywood movie script, which is best enjoyed at a very high pace.

    6. Re: No. by UttBuggly · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm 60, and was sick a great deal from about 3-8. I was taught a speed reading method to keep up with my class. I also have extraordinary memory skills...not quite Marilu Henner...but close.

      So, I tend to have great retention which has been a blessing and a curse. I mean, school was stupidly easy so I never learned how to study or do research; I could just read the material and take the test.

      Speed reading is good for some folks, I'd say. But, it may cause you to be a little lazy and undisciplined.

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    7. Re:No. by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

      I've never had any special speed-reading training but I remember being tested with a tachistoscope and timed reading tests in high school. My teacher was curious about just how fast I could read. I scored 1200 wpm with 90%+ comprehension when I intentionally read quickly. When I read for recreation, I loaf along at about 600 wpm. There is one drawback to this, though. In the past, my weekly bookstore trips would usually result in buying four to six paperback books. That was an expensive reading habit until ebooks came along.

    8. Re:No. by Jeepster77 · · Score: 1

      Back in the early '70's, my father bought 2 learning machines for me, one English, one Math. The English machine had scrolls that were displayed through a window as they wound from one spool to another at a measured speed by a windup mechanism. It maxed out at a little over 750 WPM, and I was always waiting on it. In high school, I was tested at 1500 WPM and 90% comprehension. When I read, I read lines, not words. I still run about 100 pages per hour, and read at least 5 books per week, depending on free time.

    9. Re:No. by bloodhawk · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two?

      I read fiction for relaxation and to enjoy, become mentally immersed in the story, not just to acquire the text in my memory.

      To be honest, for me at least, the same often applies to technical material.

      Could not agree more. I learnt to speed read back in my university days and while it was useful for absorbing vast quantities of material quickly I never speed read anything I am doing for relaxation, I like to meander through the story at a leisurely pace.

    10. Re:No. by Jeepster77 · · Score: 1

      You and I are a match! I peaked at 1500 wpm pushing it about about as fast as I could back in high school. I read extensively on my phone screen, which is not quite optimized for reading, and my reading app (Moon Reader+) tells me I'm running 500-700 wpm in general. Ebooks are a godsend! Usenet binaries e-book groups are the greatest!

    11. Re:No. by inode_buddha · · Score: 2

      Cheesy to reply my own post, but I seem to have attracted some random twink with no sense of humor and the tenacity of APK.

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    12. Re:No. by epine · · Score: 1

      The standard word count given to authors of genre fiction to estimate finished page count from word count is 250–300 words per page. Your 100 pages per hour at 300 words per page works out to 500 words per minute.

      I just looked at Explode the Phone which I have on my desk, and I estimate this book at 400 words per page, somewhat denser than the typical book. I recently read it in a single session at a rate somewhere around 60 pages per hour, or about 400 words per minutes, without missing many words.

      My opinion is that most people who think they're reading much faster than 600 wpm are being enabled by shallow testing practices. Most of the science shows that 600 wpm is the upper end of "normal" comprehension.

      A proper test would involve exposing the reader to a test where a small percentage of the claims were altered in some fairly outlandish way, such as this modification of the book mentioned above:

      The project eventually resulted in something called the Intel 8008, an early microprocessor that Intel began selling for $1200 each in 1972.

      I suspect most so-called speed readers coming across that sentence in the middle of a long book would hoover up the incorrect decimal point without blinking.

    13. Re:No. by Gryle · · Score: 1

      I'll second this. My reading speed varies based on the "density" of the text, for lack of a better term. I can blow through a Jim Butcher or a Ben Bova novel in a matter of hours. Granted, my information absorption isn't complete and in subsequent readings I pick up on foreshadowing I didn't notice the first go through. Denser fiction ("A Farewell to Arms") or anything translated into English ("Three Body Problem", "All Quiet on the Western Front")* requires me to slow down and think about the context to understand what's going on.

      My speed reading with non-fiction is similar. I can burn through modern non-fiction in a matter of hours or days, depending on the length of the text. Reading Greek philosophy, like Epictetus' "Discourses" takes significantly longer, weeks or months sometimes.



      *Shakespeare occupies a weird middle ground, as my difficulty with that is mostly translating the vernacular into modern English in my head as I read along.

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    14. Re: No. by KGIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I... I understand. I don't think many realize how introspective, almost profound, your statement was. I test like a genius. I really am not that smart. I don't even have long-term memory, it's like it holds it long enough to be dumped. When it no longer needs it, it cycles out the unimportant (it thinks) stuff and leaves me with vague recollections. On paper, I'm a genius. My thesis was the hardest thing I've done in my life - I'm also not even very creative.

      In classes where I could get away with it, I used to read the books in the first week of the semester/year and just leave it and not bother with it for the rest of the year. That was rather effective until I hit college. I have my Ph.D. but it was a pain in the ass. On paper, I look like I'm brilliant. That's not even remotely the case. I just seem to retain things really well - until it gets dumped. Once it's dumped, it quickly fades unless there's a reason for me to keep using it.

      It's why I'll reference stuff like, "It was in that documentary, by what's his face - the guy who has the photo technique named after him... Burns, yeah, him... Anyhow, it was in that documentary but I'll be damned if I can remember what it was about but I know they mentioned it and had several references for it. Oh, it was also about the rum-running, so it must have been his prohibition documentary or, wait, wait... It might have actually been about the period before and during prohibition - but it was about it, nonetheless. And that's what it reminds me of."

      It's like my brain functions a bit like RAM. I liken it to a hard drive that needs to be defragged or given a full low-level reformat but it's more like RAM in that once it is used and no longer needed then it is freed up for another application with no remnants left behind unless you have special forensic tools. :/ Once the test is over, the paper's handed in, the questions asked, and the data no longer needed - it's fading, fading with an alarming speed. I'm a couple of years younger than you, I swear it feels like I can feel my brain plasticize. So, I keep doing things to ensure my memory is getting a work out. I keep learning new things. I've returned to doing some programming - I've been retired for eight years now. I've even started to put a few things online and I'm working on a few other projects - all to keep the memory from going.

      I fear that more than I fear death. I don't think that's vanity speaking, I seriously need what memory I have. I've just never really retained it, not very well, unless it was something that got lots of recollection, work, or emphasis. Even then, it's tough to be motivated when you can just reread it and retain it well enough for the next exam. How very true, it can (and might) foster laziness - and apathy.

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    15. Re:No. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Same here. Speed-readers are missing out on any but the most superficial entertainment and educational value. Both need integration of what you need and that often takes more time than slow-reading. If you speed-read, you do not even notice what you miss.

      But I am not surprised many people do not understand this: Many people only understand "quantity" (as in "better" numbers), but are completely oblivious to the meaning of "quality". This is not a new problem, people have always been this stupid. The only difference is that with the Internet the stupid ones become more visible.

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    16. Re: No. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I think you were screwed over. My condolences. If you have the intelligence to do more than just remember facts, then it is a tragedy to never learn to do so.

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    17. Re:No. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Same here. It is not that getting good in any STEM area requires this directly, it is that the people that have the potential to get good enjoy doing this and hence get good anyways. There are not a lot of us around though and others do not get it (just as Kirk here). For example, one way to recognize a coder that has it is to just ask whether they code things in their spare time for fun. People that do not do this will always struggle to even be mediocre at it and they will never truly care bout their craft.

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    18. Re:No. by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      If I'd had to buy all the books I've read I wouldn't have been able to read 99.99% of what I've read. When I was about 12 I'd visit the library daily and bring half a dozen books home.

      I don't think e-books should cost, because you don't actually OWN anything (I give my own e-books away for free on my web site). Reading has always been free. Physical objects have monetary value, virtual objects like e-books and MP3s can't be legally given away or resold, so are completely valueless in a monetary sense.

    19. Re:No. by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      If I read that I would assume that it was indeed $1,200.00, as I have no idea what chips cost back then. I did stand in the middle of a computer in 1972, one that ran a C5-A simulator. Picture a library with printed circuit boards instead of books.

    20. Re: No. by chihowa · · Score: 1

      That's an interesting take on your memory situation. My memory is much worse, which led me to get very good at problem solving.

      Early math and science courses, especially the ones where you need to memorize formula were hell until I got really fast at rederiving them on the spot. Such tests are typically timed for people who don't need to do any more than recall the formula, so I often didn't complete them at first. My teachers would comment on how I was clearly intelligent and they couldn't understand why I did so poorly on the tests. Before too long, I got fast enough for it not to be an issue anymore. School was easy, even getting my PhD was easy, but I talk more about potential solutions to the problems that are being discussed instead of rattling off papers and authors like a typical academic. Bringing up a great paper written by that guy, you know, from that one university, doesn't quite have the same effect.

      I'm ok with losing the little memory that I have because I rarely use it. I'm terrified of losing my ability to quickly think through problems.

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    21. Re: No. by lsllll · · Score: 1

      I can SOOOO relate to this. Never could remember formulas and had to derive them during test time, but eventually resorted to cheating in a final. It was 1985 and the university had acquired an HP laserjet. Using WordPerfect I was able to print the formulas with symbols and everything in the smallest font I could. I then used a copier to reduce the print size by 70% twice, enough that I was able to fit 20 or so formulas on the face of my watch.

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    22. Re: No. by jouassou · · Score: 1

      Apropos, I remember reading about some research into "neurogenesis" some time ago (generation of new neurons in the brain). Sorry don't have a reference, but it should be possible to google it. The research indicates that people with high neurogenesis tend to learn new things very fast, which is kinda obvious. But perhaps less obvious, they also found that people with high neurogenesis tend to forget their old memories very fast. So apparently, there's a tradeoff between learning new things fast (average child), and retaining old memories well (average adult). Their hypothesis was that this is because adding new neurons to the network incurs some damage to the existing information stored in the network, so if you don't refresh and repair those memories often enough, they become too damaged to restore. But the faster you generate new neurons, the fewer old memories you have time to refresh in time, and so the faster you also forget your old memories. So I think people like us just have a higher neurogenesis than most adults :).

    23. Re: No. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Knowledge that is not used just fades like muscles that are not used.

      Astonishingly doing body exercises like martial arts or rock climbing or canooing or similar stuff keeps the brain very active. Probably horse riding, archery etc. goes the same way.

      The old joke is: 'I forgot more in my life than you ever knew.' Probably it is the same with you?

      BTW: I miss your email :D checking later again if it got lost.

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    24. Re: No. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Tests usually test only how good you are at tests.

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    25. Re: No. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I'll resend it when I'm at that PC - just in case it got eaten. And yes, yes I've forgotten everything. :/ I was wondering why you'd not replied - I figured you were busy. Now I know you didn't get it. Email really needs to be more reliable or, maybe, I need to we need to run our own servers to make sure we control the rules.

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    26. Re: No. by Kvathe · · Score: 2

      It's amazing how well the comments in this thread describe me.

      During my middle-high school years I read voraciously, mostly fantasy, about 2-3 books per week. My memory is poor enough that after a few months I would only have vague ideas about the plot, and could happily re-read a book after a couple years and still be surprised. However, I never had any problems with school. I learned very quickly and tested extremely well. Like the parent, I was very good at quickly grasping concepts, so testing was easy since answers were all intuitive. I was accepted into a university with two scholarships and was admitted into the honors college.

      Unfortunately, what worked in high school doesn't really cut it anymore. I'm currently a senior in mechanical engineering and having trouble passing classes. Concepts are too complex for me to grasp in lecture anymore, and I never learned how to study. It takes time and practice to really understand the coursework, and it's time that I'm not used to putting in. Assigned work takes multiple days to complete, when I'm used to doing everything the day before. It's past time for me to buckle down and learn how to work for it like everyone else does, but habits are hard to change.

    27. Re: No. by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I grab stuff and learn it very, very quickly. It's the retention that gets me. If I don't work, legitimately work, to retain it then it's gone. It must still be there, some of it, because sometimes there will be a trigger that reminds me of something and a whole rush of memories will come flooding back. Also, if I write something down then the physical act of writing it means that I remember it longer. If I wrote your number down, I'll remember it in 6 months. If I typed it, entered it into my phone, or just quickly memorized it then it's gone in 6 hours.

      But I "learn" very, very quickly. I just don't retain it well. I don't retain it unless I make significant effort to do so.

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    28. Re: No. by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Did you use the mail address given here as sending address?

      I just sent a mail from my normal mail address.

      Nice to meat you.

      Angelo

      P.S. I suggested /. should support messages, but well so far it does not.

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    29. Re:No. by LienRag · · Score: 1

      Actually, speed-reading techniques are quasi-mandatory if one is to read Slashdot without losing too much time...
      Once you find a really interesting commentary it's better to go back to normal reading, but that doesn't occur that often!

  3. There's meaning and there's 'meaning' by FireballX301 · · Score: 2

    If all you want to do is figure out what's happening, speed reading does what you want - tells you what's going on. You isolate the actual actions and events of the story from the cruft. Writing generally has a ratio of meaningful descriptors versus 'words for their own sake' nonsense, ranging from technical writing to Finnegan's Wake, and speed reading lets you handle most of the former quickly.

    Does it help you figure out what's going on in Finnegan's Wake, no, but I find that works on that spectrum of the scale aren't really worth bothering with anyway. If it literally cannot be speed-read because there's not enough clear descriptors (in an attempt to infuse their work with some variant version of 'meaning'), it's just an linguist's mental masturbation on a page

    1. Re:There's meaning and there's 'meaning' by dinfinity · · Score: 1

      Honestly, the whole focus on novels or technical writing is stupid. Speed reading (training) is amazing for the daily consumption of news, blogs, websites emails, etc. The signal to noise ratio in a lot of these is very very low, which makes being able to find and only consume the signal a superb time saver.

      Even in quality books or articles there are passages that are unnecessarily long or just not that interesting. Knowing the speed reading techniques and being able to switch from attentive reading to speed reading allows fast-forwarding through the crappy bits, whilst still being reasonably aware of when the content turns interesting again.

      Beyond that, some of the speed reading 'tricks' are just improvements to reading and information processing in general. Training your brain to use more of your peripheral vision for letter and word processing, to do more chunked processing, to better detect signal words and key elements, and training your eyes to move in efficient patterns works for all reading, including attentive reading.

      So I urge everybody to look beyond the gimmicky part of speed reading (read a novel in minutes? Screw that) and just invest some time in improving reading skills in general (which is easily done through speed reading apps and courses). Considering the amount of text you process and read in a day, it seems like a no-brainer to make that process more efficient.

    2. Re:There's meaning and there's 'meaning' by gweihir · · Score: 1

      You do not know what you miss. I pity you as you are losing out on one of life's greatest pleasures.

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    3. Re:There's meaning and there's 'meaning' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      There are people out there who get immense sexual gratification at being bound, whipped, and having their genitals flogged.

      I imagine they, too, think I'm losing out on one of life's greatest pleasures.

  4. enjoy the book again and again by lkcl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i like speed-reading. i used to read 2-3 sci-fi / fantasy a week, except the 800-1000 page monsters like the robert jordan series, which often took me 4-6 days of continuous reading, and except asimov's detective stories about elijah bailey, which were incredibly dense logical reasoning (necessary for a detective and his partner). the thing i like about speed-reading is that when you come back to the same book in 4 to 12 months time, it's enjoyable - again - because you find things that you missed the first time. so the point that this article is making i see is an *advantage*... not a disadvantage.

    1. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the thing i like about speed-reading is that when you come back to the same book in 4 to 12 months time, it's enjoyable - again - because you find things that you missed the first time. so the point that this article is making i see is an *advantage*... not a disadvantage.

      It also means that you didn't enjoy it to its fullest the first time around.
      It also means that there is a high probability that you can "read" a book and miss the good part about it, thinking that it was crap.

    2. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Hentes · · Score: 1

      Do you also watch movies fast forward?

    3. Re:enjoy the book again and again by umghhh · · Score: 1

      I actually do that. If find the version I got with sampling and ff-ing good I may rewind few times. AFter 3rd time I usually got all of the worthy parts of the story. I suppose this is faster for bad movies as I stop and never come back. It is slower for good ones tho.

    4. Re:enjoy the book again and again by bidule · · Score: 2

      It also means that there is a high probability that you can "read" a book and miss the good part about it, thinking that it was crap.

      If there's only one good part, it's crap anyway. If there's 10 good parts in a chapter and you miss half of them, you still have 5 reasons it's not crap. The "high probability" you missed them all is 0.5^5 = 3%.

      Maybe if you repeatedly skimmed the good parts, for instance fauna & flora descriptions bore you to tears. But then, the good parts are crap to you.

      So no, it's not possible to miss enough parts to turn a good book into crap.

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    5. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Luthair · · Score: 1

      That volume doesn't really sound like speed reading to me unless you're only spending a couple hours a week reading. For me the biggest hurdle in recent years is actually locating good books, at a certain point you cover most of the interesting books already written and are stuck waiting on the handful of decent authors to put out books.

    6. Re:enjoy the book again and again by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "asimov's detective stories about elijah bailey, which were incredibly dense logical reasoning"

      I'll make you a favor and will consider that you finding Elijah Bailey's stories to be "incredibly dense logical reasoning" are just probing those studies' authors right: speed reading does in fact miss a lot of meaning or, in other words, dumbs you down.

    7. Re:enjoy the book again and again by bidule · · Score: 1

      I was more thinking about that some books are more about the way the story is told than the actual story.
      You will not just miss the good parts by speed reading those, you will miss the entire point.

      That is true. You must pace through poetry and play to fully appreciate them.

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    8. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Maow · · Score: 1

      You can't even use proper capitalization; either you don't pay attention to what you read, or what you write isn't worth even speed reading.

    9. Re:enjoy the book again and again by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Quite frankly if the good part was a tiny overlookable detail then it can't be all that good.

      I enjoy movies a lot. It's the engaging plot that for me drives a story. The details are irrelevant and interchangable. A book however can't create a movie via graphic and needs to describe every detail even ones that aren't relevant in order to paint a stage. In many cases a book or story is just as good when you fill in the gaps.

      This is obviously not true for detective stories where the colour of someone's dress is probably quite relevant but then I don't read those books.

    10. Re:enjoy the book again and again by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Yes but they got to enjoy it just as much, if not more, the second or third time around.

      To put this into another light, there are whole documentary series (some of great length) that I've watched multiple times and each time been able to enjoy it - and learn more things from it. You've a very narrow definition of what's good and what is not good if you insist that you get maximum enjoyment the first time around. I can think of many things that I've enjoyed many times over and I'm grateful for that.

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    11. Re:enjoy the book again and again by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      It also means that you didn't enjoy it to its fullest the first time around.
      No, it does not mean that.

      It word by word only means he missed some words. How much pleasure he had only he knows. Not you.

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    12. Re:enjoy the book again and again by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Very common on Youtube these days.

      Videos at normal speed consume huge amounts of time. Viewing videos faster gets the same content but takes much less time.

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  5. My view by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot Asks: What's Your View On Speed Reading?

    I think more should be spent on determining the correct limits for different roads, and that red light cameras make things worse. Next question?

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    1. Re:My view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How dare you say that about my Mother, she's never even seen a water buffalo.

  6. Chris High's Vortex MARS by redelm · · Score: 1

    Generally, I agree speed reading is skimming, potentially missing important details. However, there is Cliff High's Vortex Machine Assisted Reading System (1995) that flashes one word at a time centered on a small box. By getting rid of line following and other eye-mechanics, it has considerable potential but needs refinements such as punctuation delays and other automagic speed controls. It is relentless but thorough.

    1. Re:Chris High's Vortex MARS by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      I think what your refering to is called rsvp there are several free apps for ios so you can probably get it on android too if you wanted.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

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    2. Re:Chris High's Vortex MARS by redelm · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, but this seems to be of images or single letters, while I was referring to whole (but single) words flashing.

    3. Re:Chris High's Vortex MARS by spaceman375 · · Score: 1

      I wrote a program that did this exact thing in 1993. I got the idea from a tv spot about someone in australia who did it. It really does drop entire sentences into your brain faster than your inner voice can pronounce them. It's truly amazing.

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    4. Re:Chris High's Vortex MARS by redelm · · Score: 1

      Good for you. I'm thinking of making an App for Android -- the small/low-res screens will be no disadvantage. I want to add punctuation delays and speed controls to make breaks, pausing & slight rewind egonomically easy. Otherwise, it is like drinking from a firehose. Do you have any details on the 1993 Oz TV spot?

  7. Reading is for old people by Kohath · · Score: 1

    Get a VR headset grandpa!

  8. What's this about? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    What's this about? I read too fast.

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  9. Download vs Indexing by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    Speed reading is like downloading data but not indexing it. You get the general gist, but it is NOT the same as reading for comprehensive.

    Someone that speed reads a text book has far inferior recall - both immediately and years later.

    Note this is something that many people do not understand about AI's either. They won't be able to just download something and learn/understand it instantly. Like humans, they will have to spend a lot of processing cycles integrating the information into their memory.

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    1. Re:Download vs Indexing by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Speed reading is like downloading data but not indexing it. You get the general gist, but it is NOT the same as reading for comprehensive.

      The first is correct, the second isn't. Real speed-reading does give comprehension. The only thing it doesn't give is immersion.

      Of course if you increase if the speed-reading rate, you move into skimming territory and then you lose details and comprehension too.

    2. Re:Download vs Indexing by meburke · · Score: 1

      Your rudeness is greatly exceeded by your ignorance and arrogance.

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    3. Re:Download vs Indexing by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Funny, when in actual reality it is you that is trying to con people into harming themselves.

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  10. It works by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

    1. Re:It works by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 2

      But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

      I'm going to go ahead and disagree on that one. My basement library is just shy of a thousand novels and by no means contains all that I've read in my life. I have a philosophy that I don't give up on a book, no matter how crappy it is. There's almost always a nugget of "worthwhile" somewhere in there. But some authors are bad at various things. From realistic dialogue to exposition to dialogue, there's often something that's really not worth reading. I've become very good at catching on what's bad within a few chapters, and skimming through that type of material.

      Sure, you don't speed-read/skim through say... Douglas Adams. The whole point is the intricate wordplay. It takes a lot of time for me to make it through good writing, such as Iain M. Banks. On the other hand, I can plow through lesser works rapidly and derive enjoyment. Some mediocre books I re-read, simply because - like The Princess Bride - the "just the good bits" edition can be much, much better than the original.

      So don't assume. I often get more pleasure out of skimming... which is why I do it.

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    2. Re:It works by Kjella · · Score: 1

      But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

      That assumes you've already decided this is a text you need to fully comprehend cover to cover like a textbook. If you're given a lengthy draft and asked for your opinion you're not going to read everything. You're going to look at the index and summary, the headlines and then you're going to skim some chapters and maybe read a few in great detail. For example I recently had to read a lengthy legal proposal, much of it was background information and known to me but I knew there were some contentious areas I wanted to find the decisions on and if there were any major surprises compared to what I was expecting. Same thing when I get asked to give input on some idea or project or design or whatever, I don't have infinite time. I'm not looking to understand every detail. It's just to box it into "okay/uhhhh/not okay" so I can quite quickly get back to them to say these are the obvious issues I see, this is where I'm not really sure but the rest sounds okay to me. Very often the latter doesn't mean it's how I'd do it, but basically it's good enough for me and won't cause us grief down the road.

      I don't know about your daily work but for me there's more than enough to fill my day and if I engaged myself in every issue that came my way I just wouldn't get anything done. Instead of picking up one or two items and getting involved properly it's better to skim over ten looking for the "oh hell no" cases and just let the minor things slide. Particularly when I'm working on major changes that I know will ultimately mean more than doing small-scale fire fighting all over the board. Not to mention sending off a few well placed remarks often end up with the people who actually should be doing it realizing they haven't really thought this through properly. In fact getting back to them with key flaws quickly typically enhances the effect, like if it was that obvious shouldn't we have caught it ourselves. Because there is way more work than for one man, there's no point in trying to carry the weight of the world alone. I'm just trying to be as useful as I can be for the overall progress.

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    3. Re:It works by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      Some mediocre books I re-read, simply because - like The Princess Bride - the "just the good bits" edition can be much, much better than the original.

      Except there isn't an unabridged Princess Bride.

      Right your are. Huh.

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    4. Re:It works by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      But speed reading reduces enjoyment and comprehension, so removes the pleasure from pleasure reading, and the comprehension from technical reading. So there ends up being no advantages.

      I took a speed reading class and came to the same conclusion. It was strenuous to keep up the pace and made reading no longer enjoyable. I quickly found myself going back to my normal reading pace.

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    5. Re:It works by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      And yet your point still stands, kind of. The whole premise that The Princess Bride was abridged is basically a gimmick that allowed the author to write "just the good bits" for the reader and skip over anything either he didn't feel like writing or thought the reader wouldn't enjoy reading.

    6. Re:It works by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      "Speed reading" used for skimming can be replaced by non-speed reading skimming. Read the first 5 words of every paragraph. Move to the next. Reading at normal speed and skipping unintelligently will give a similar result to speed reading. And yes, I've done speed reading. I just don't do it becauase it's useful for so little of my regular reading. I can speed-read TFA and get a result similar to slow-reading the headline. And most of my reading is pleasure reading, which gets no benefit from reading fast, except when I pick a book to read before seeing the movie, and have limited time, though usually, I find I like both the book and the movie better when I read the book after.

  11. my view on speed-readers is by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Funny

    that they can use any public bathroom with which they identify.

  12. Be Careful What You Wish For by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I spent several years trying to get help for dyslexia. A lot of school counsellors assumed it was what I was dealing with.

    Right up to the point one caught that what I was actually doing was self taught speed reading everything and couldn't switch the damn thing off.

    You have no idea how annoying it is to know a piece of information MUST exist within a passage but no amount of rereading, trying to slow yourself down, will get you to stop skipping over it because your brain has already decided it knows what is said.

    As a simple example: Bob has $10. He pays dollars in tax. What percentage does Bob pay?

    It's a standard question pattern. You know damn well that there must be an amount of dollars Bob paid in tax. You know the question likely has something like TWO in there and the answer would be twenty percent. But you read it over and over and the TWO never reveals itself because your brain has already decided it knows what the passage says.

    It made chunks of my degree miserable. I knew the concepts, could study faster than most others, yet kept missing key parts of often simple questions in the exams.

    Once I learned what I was doing, a hell of a lot of practice has weeded most of it back out at the expense of reading slower.

    So, yeah, speed reading is great. Until it isn't. And then really isn't when you can't stop it.

    1. Re:Be Careful What You Wish For by kiphat · · Score: 2

      I had to read your comment at least 10 times to realize that you actually omitted the number TWO(2) from the problem... Or did you?

    2. Re:Be Careful What You Wish For by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      The same principle makes it generally difficult for writers to copy-edit their own work. Their brains know what's supposed to be there, and their eyes don't notice that it's not.

    3. Re:Be Careful What You Wish For by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I wonder, then, would software meant for speed reading, like Spritz, actually benefit you, because it feeds you the words.

  13. After Bill Gates recommended it, I took a look by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Bill Gates recently recommended learning how to speed read during a Q&A on Reddit. Bill's a pretty intelligent and respectable guy, so I decided to check it out. What I found was several sources consistently explaining that serious, magical, life-changing speed reading is an almost savant-like process that only works for a small number of people. The witnesses, who as far as I know are not neuroscientists (neither am I), go into pretty detailed explanations about how it supposedly works for people who are able to retrain themselves and more or less move the reading process from the auditory parts of the brain to the visual parts, eventually encoding and storing information using a visual mnemonic process. Also supposedly, people who succeed with exceptional results tend to be the Aspergers type (Bill Gates is rumored to be an Aspie). It sounds plausible (though as I said, I'm not a neuroscientist).

  14. As a kid I was reading with a "buffer" by Kartu · · Score: 2

    My eyes were about a sentence ahead of the point I was understanding (comprehending? whatever, not a native English speaker).
    At some point I stopped reading a lot and had lost that skill and now I read about 1.5 times slower than back then.
    I can't recall any negative side effects, such as rememberiing or missing out things.
    Mother told me, one of the librarians, who was suspicious about little kid (10 years old) reading so many books so quickly ("maybe he just skims through for pictures?"), asked questions about stories in them. I gave correct answers to all questions. I don't remember the episode, although I remember librarian that was extremely kind in helping me find something interesting to read.

  15. Anecdote by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

    My wife is a self taught speed reader (basically as a kid she thought everyone could do it). She can also recite passages verbatim from books that she read years ago. Being a speed reader doesn't mean that you HAVE to speed read. For things that are important, you slow down and concentrate on the words, like a normal reader. So how can it be bad? Use it when appropriate, and read normally when not.

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  16. I Believe in Speed Reading, Here's Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I totally believe in speed reading. I'm a slow reader -- I read at the average WPM. I know because I tested with a book on speed reading, and the score I got was exactly in the mid-range for ordinary subvocalizing readers.

    My partner is a fast reader. She read Harry Potter far, far quicker than I did. She LOVED the book. And she knew every detail of it after her one, fast read of it. She was immersed in it.

    We would talk about it, and I had a hard time remembering names, sequences of events, and so on, despite having immersed myself in it for longer.

    She was whip smart about it. Remembered everything, big and small. If I had a question, I'd ask her, and she knew it.

    So, for myself, I'm completely convinced that people can not only read, but enjoy reading, and remember it all, without the subvocalizing.

    I've tried to do it many times, but without subvocalizing, I don't feel like I'm reading anything at all. So I don't get how it works for her, -- but it does.

  17. Nope. by EnsilZah · · Score: 1

    I read pretty slowly, and even so I sometimes catch myself having read a few lines of text but haven't really fully processed them so I go back and reread them.

    I've also noticed a certain change of the pace of my reading as the scene plays out in my mind, I might read faster if things are happening quickly from a character's point of view.

    So I think I'd lose the nuances of both the meaning and pacing if I tried to read faster.

    Also, it's quite possible to follow the plot of a movie while watching at 2X speed but I wouldn't consider doing that unless there was some sort of artificial time constraint that required me to know the plot rather than enjoy the experience.

  18. TLDR by darkain · · Score: 5, Funny

    TLDR

    1. Re:TLDR by Bearhouse · · Score: 1

      Thank you; Slashdot...still rocks

  19. I wish by Livius · · Score: 1

    I read a novel in French by reading the printed edition while following along with the audio book, which forces you to read at a much slower rate than normal. It was astonishing how much I got out of the book and how much I enjoyed it, far beyond normal reading experiences.

    I thought I was a fast reader, but now I know I was wrong.

  20. Just read the title by mandy2tom · · Score: 1

    Did I miss anything?

  21. Not if you want to enjoy the style of writing by oddaddresstrap · · Score: 1

    I learned to speed read in 5th grade about 50 years ago. A few kids were chosen for some sessions that taught us how to skim for meaning and comprehension. There was a special projector that would scroll a column of text while showing us a narrow window of 1-2 lines. I really worked at it and could "read" most novels in a day or two. This worked okay until I ran into All the Pretty Horses. The weird style made me slow down just to be able to read it. I came to really enjoy the lack of punctuation and occasional long, stream-of-consciousness passages. I know it drove a lot of people crazy, but it brought back a love or reading and is one of my favorite books of all time. It changed the way I read non-technical stuff.
    Speed reading is great when you're skimming for information, not so much when you're supposedly reading for enjoyment.

  22. Good and bad. TL;DR: damned expensive by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    For some reason I went on a sort of long hiatus from reading fiction regularly, which has been a thing I've done all my life. I've been into story-based video games, because I wanted to get closer to living the story than just reading it. But right now I'm finally getting around to reading Seveneves, which I bought back when it was fresh on the shelf, and I've been thinking about this very issue again.

    When I was in elementary school I was part of the group which met in the library and used the speed-reading machine, the sort which would project some text onto a pull-down screen; a bit of a line at a time, and at varying speeds. Then we'd take a little multiple-guess test to see how our short-term retention was, and move on to the next. Three or four of these, and it was back to class. The machine absolutely did work, and now I can digest most novels in extremely short order.

    As the subject line suggests, the obvious problem is that this can make reading an expensive habit, especially if there is a dearth of good used bookstores in your area. I grew up in Santa Cruz, which means I had access to Logos, a genuinely great book store with a really massive used selection. What's more, only the very oldest and most collectible used books are sold for anything other than the usual fraction of the cover price, which makes elderly paperbacks highly accessible.

    The up side is that books which would make good movies play out quickly — perhaps not as quickly as a movie based on a book should do, let alone as rapidly as they tend to actually do, but certainly in good time for the emotional to and fro to flow together naturally — and engagingly.

    Anyway, short form is, speed reading makes reading more expensive, but it does make it more entertaining. The problem is, that's a little bit like making cocaine more expensive, yet more addictive. It isn't in that it is relatively difficult to OD on books (they can fall on you...) but it is similar in the ability to drain your wallet.

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  23. Some people just read fast by reemul · · Score: 1

    Reading fast is not the same as speed reading. I have a naturally high read speed. If undisturbed, I can read a typical paperback novel in 1.5 - 2 hours, often while eating lunch. I can skim much faster, that's my normal speed for pleasure reading. I honestly wish that books took longer for me to consume, my book habit is fairly expensive. The limiting factor for me is mechanical, not cognitive - my speed is more affected by page and font size (how far do my eyes need to travel, time spent turning pages) than the density of the material. Don't lump in everyone who reads faster than you as somehow cheating or just showing off but not actually understanding the work.

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    1. Re:Some people just read fast by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      I think that says more about the quality of reading material than anything else. Density definitely has an effect. Classics take much longer to read because they pack more substance into the same number of words. Some of the philosophical ramblings require you to stop reading and actually think about what they're saying. It happens all the time with research papers too. Try reading this in 10 minutes or less (hint: you can't).

  24. I can't believe I actually read that by mandy2tom · · Score: 3, Funny

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  25. It worked for me by Gim+Tom · · Score: 1

    I was given a speed reading class as a high school graduation present in 1965. It was the Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics course and at that time it was a very nice and expensive graduation gift and it was in a class room setting at least once and maybe more often per week for perhaps two months. I was a bit cynical about the techniques taught but I did practice and do all the exercises. About a year latter while a Freshman studying engineering I found myself far behind in some of the required non-engineering courses such as History and Political Science. I had not read most of the assignments and was looking at a complete failure on the final exams. One professor even told me that to even get a grade of "C" in their class I would have to get an "A" on the final exam. Using the techniques I learned the previous summer I read the books two or three times in the week before the final. I got a "C" in the class that required an "A" and I think I got a "B" in the other one.

    During my career I used this technique to get up to speed very quickly on a new subject and it did work. It was not fun, I never used it for recreational reading, but the time I was told that management had decided to convert our infrastructure from Token Ring to Ethernet and that I was hosting the bidders conference in a week I was able to learn enough about Ethernet to understand what was being discussed and soon thereafter my BS filters were pretty well tuned to deal with the sales weasels that a large contract always attracts.

    As always your mileage may vary, but I found it invaluable for situations such as this.

  26. Double your pleasure, double your fun... by ToughRat · · Score: 1

    Not with chewing gum, but by reading any serious book, especially including novels, twice.

    The first time, which speed reading serves well, is to set the context.

    The second time, which involves savoring the interplay of topic (or characters) and context, is for learning (the topic; or the beyond-words experience that a serious novelist attempts to convey.

    Learning research suggests a least one night's sleep between the first and second times works best. It seems that we "digest" the first time into our cognitive "background" during the night. It is against that background that the topics (or characters, their actions and relations) stand out.

  27. Re:Ellen Wood Speed Reading Course.... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 1
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  28. On the other hand, it can be beneficial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm a case for the exact opposite, I actually am (very) Dyslexic and looked into speed reading techniques as a way to allow me to read at a normal pace.

    Also, opposed to you, despite many, many, many warning signs and even threats of being held back (despite decent grades), not one of my teachers realized I was Dyslexic, including one who specialized in reading comprehension problems, someone should have seen it. I enjoy learning, but by 4th grade I was starting to shut down and by 7th grade I was getting almost nothing from going to class and was instead teaching myself. This got me bad grades and trouble in grade school, but I was up for Valedictorian in later education where I was expected to learn on my own.

  29. Yeah by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    Speed "reading" is what stupid people do because they cant burn through a novel in a night like people with make brain good.

  30. Speedreading before it was cool by allo · · Score: 1

    Without any cool technique, i just read a 200 pages book in one long evening. More than two hours, but still just one evening ...

  31. Speed Reading is Rubbish by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    I have to read a lot of scientific papers and it would be great if I could read them faster. However, this is not possible, because I have also to understand them. Speed reading implies that I can increase the number of words read and understand, but this is not possible, as my thinking device is not getting faster. Sometimes I have consider a sentence for some time to understand all its implications. Therefore, it is not applicable to that type of text. I also cannot use it for technical manuals and standards, as you also need to know everything. Speed reading might work with newspaper articles, as they often do not contain much information, but you can normally decide if it is important to read it at all after the teaser or one or two sentences. That leaves me with works of fiction. Those I read slowly to enjoy the content and immerse myself into the story. Maybe speed reading works with economics papers. Economics is more like a set of cults or religions. Therefore, it is not super important to get every nuance.

    1. Re:Speed Reading is Rubbish by meburke · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but I disagree. I've met people who can read and absorb technical material a rates varying from 4000 to 12,000 words per minute. Most people read prose faster than they read technical material. If you are well grounded in the technical material and have mastered the vocabulary, you can practice on the subject and get very fast.

      I met a Chemistry Professor from India in an Evelyn Wood reading Dynamics program in Chicago in 1978. He only achieved about 1200 words per minute with 90% recall on prose, but he demonstrated a speed of 10,000 to 12,000 words per minute with 90% recall (or better) on Chemistry, Biophysics and Biochemistry texts. We had to borrow material from Strick Medical Center to find subject material that he wasn't already very familiar with, but that's what he ended up showing us. Even on subjects that he were totally out of his field (Oceanography, Geology and Astronomy) he could absorb the material at varying rates starting at about 3500 words per minute. And the more Math, the faster he read. When he started the course he was reading prose at about 200 words per minute with about 70% recall, and tech material at about 1200 words per minute with 80+ % recall. Notice the big improvement in only 9 weeks!

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    2. Re:Speed Reading is Rubbish by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      I do not doubt the reading speed. I doubt that understanding works so fast. I normally need to read and use stuff to improve understanding. However, I can understand that it is hard to tell someone like me how it feels like, as I have not experienced speed reading myself. Maybe I give it a try.

  32. Of a similar vein to 'exam technique' by John+Allsup · · Score: 1

    It is harder to learn a discipline than pass a test in said discipline. Passing said test is easier if you know it's nature in advance. In the case of speed reading, you may be able to grasp certain salient details of a novel by skimming, but I would like to see that done with a maths textbook: speed read an undergraduate textbook in a subject you have not studied yet, and answer exercise questions on the topic. That kind of thing takes thinking through, as does recognising any subtlety to a novel rather than just the superficially obvious plot. But if the test probes nothing other than the superficially obvious plot, it will not pick this up.

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  33. Any other symptoms? by iam_TJ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That sounds like the reading equivalent of 'jumping to conclusions' in spoken conversation where the subject believes they already know how a sentence is going to be completed and jumps in with an answer before the speaker has finished.

    How did you combat it? Does word-counting help? Does it affect both printed and electronically displayed text? Do you get any other symptoms like headaches?

    It reminds me of some of the symptoms of Visual Stress a.k.a. Meares-Irlin syndrome [0].

    I helped a friend many years ago (2002) who was thought to be dumb because he seemed unable to absorb written material and after 1/2 a page would switch to light skim-reading ("speed reading") and/or distract himself in any way possible. Being questioned on the material later he would be unable to answer many questions due to skimming over the material, leading to the 'dumb' tag.

    He would also sometimes complain of severe headaches that could last days. Since childhood parents, teachers and doctors had tried to find a cause and subjected him to all sorts of tests with no result.

    One day whilst we were focused on some programming he complained of a headache. Being the first time I'd witnessed his symptoms I asked him to describe exactly what he was experiencing. It turned out the printing would begin to swim around and blur in and out of focus and get worse the longer he tried to focus on it. He'd never been asked this question before and had assumed everyone experienced this and had not mentioned it.

    After some research I discovered Professor Arnold Wilkins at Essex University, U.K., had developed a diagnostic test that identified the cause and possible counter-measures.  Meares-Irlen syndrome is a visual acuity abnormality that can be partially or fully re-mediated with the use of colour filters, with each sufferer needing filters tailored to them - rather like a lens prescription for glasses.

    We visited the university and my friend undertook the test and immediately noticed an improvement once the correct colour filter was identified. These tests were done whilst placing permutations of coloured transparencies over printed material (black text on white paper).

    As a result I wrote a program that detected and applied the correct colour overlay to the computer screen and it worked as well as the transparencies but the colour required was quite different - due to the differences between reflective and transmissive light.

    [0] "Colour in the treatment of visual stress" http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/
    [1] "READING THROUGH COLOUR" http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays/book2.pdf

  34. Wait by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Hold on, I'm not done with the headline yet

  35. None the less it works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You can not speed read physics, economics, and "Wat and Peace"
    However for many of the texts in school, much of the internet, and other "lighter" subjects it works with full comprehension and it saves time.

    1. Re:None the less it works by umghhh · · Score: 1

      what is normal speed?
      I was 'nrmal' reader when I attended the school. I have learned what accounts for fast reading at some point then. Not sure why maybe some articles about auditory reading not being optimal although still faster than what you seem at bad readers - they try to speak out words they read in their minds - that is the slowest. So I did start trying and I can read some texts really fast although not for big distances - I keep on stopping and analyzing what I just read. I noticed sometimes to read efficiently means slowly too because we like to think about each word etc. As with everything else there are people that can do that very fast but there are limits to that too and all that goes faster than that, is skimming not real reading. You can do it with some parts of literature (at school I glossed over most of descriptions of nature etc). I also noticed that I cannot do it efficiently in all languages I mastered. German is out of my reach in this - but you cannot read with comprehension what the authorities send to citizens here - with any speed - it is just garbage.
      So some clear terminology would help in discussing that too. Some people make it almost impossible to comprehend what they mean whatever the speed - Emmanuel K was one. I recall reading sentence of his work spreading over pages and going back many times. Even footnotes were like this. Good luck speed reading that.
      In other words if one claims to seed read anything and everything one most likely lies or is a simpleton that reads only one type of text where that, for this one person, makes it to speed read it.

    2. Re:None the less it works by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Not sure why maybe some articles about auditory reading not being optimal although still faster than what you seem at bad readers - they try to speak out words they read in their minds - that is the slowest.

      I maintain that if you sound out the words, you're not really reading. Reading is much deeper than that. Reading Asimov's Youth a true reader doesn't hear the words "There was a spatter of pebbles against the window and the youngster stirred in his sleep. Another, and he was awake." Rather, he hears the pebbles on the window and sees the kid stirring in his sleep, then waking up.

      I feel sorry for those who move their lips when they read.

    3. Re: None the less it works by jouassou · · Score: 1

      If a good storyteller tells you about someone throwing a pebble at a window, you can also hear that pebble hit the window in your mind, even though in real life your ears are listening to the storyteller's words. How is that different from reading a story and hearing the pebble hit the window? If it is not, then how do you know that people reading out loud can't also see and hear what's going on in their minds?

    4. Re: None the less it works by mcgrew · · Score: 2

      how do you know that people reading out loud can't also see and hear what's going on in their minds?

      Because I wasn't born with the ability to read and can remember not knowing how, and can remember learning.

  36. Dilbert strikes again (last panel) by mhotchin · · Score: 1
  37. Speed Reading by juntaka · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't want a speed reader to be my doctor!

  38. Speed reading is pseudoscience. by bipbop · · Score: 1

    Speed reading is a fairly popular bit of pseudoscience. There's no evidence that people can actually read at superhuman speeds while retaining comprehension. At best, you can skim. Sure, skimming can be useful, but don't call it "speed reading".

    1. Re:Speed reading is pseudoscience. by meburke · · Score: 1

      There has been a lot of controversy about what actually constitutes "reading." The speedreading systems I'm familiar with have this criteria: If you can look at the page and visually get information from it, then you are "reading." The more information you glean from the pages, the better you read. The less time you spend looking at the pages, the faster you are reading. In the Evelyn Wood System (which is what I took back in the early '70's) my goal was to read as fast as I could at speeds appropriate to having 90% or better comprehension and recall. However, in the EW system it was also considered to cover the text multiple times (called "layered" reading) if that is what it took to understand the text. So I take a 1200-page textbook, read it and take notes (which is also taught at EW) and finish in about an hour. Then I do it again. I may do it again. and when I've done I've understood about 90% of the text. in about 3 hours total time. (Doing the exercises and skill-building are not reading, but are probably necessary for mastering the subject.)

      On the other hand, according to Mortimer Adler in his famous, "How to Read a Book," the criteria are different and speedreading would only be considered as one part of the reading process. Adler claimed that you must be able to reproduce the author's thought exactly, or you haven't competently read the source.

      So, it is not "pseudo-science" as much as "badly-defined" science. (I refer you to Alfred Korzybski's "Science and Sanity." I defy anyone to speed-read that! This is a book where Adler prevails over Wood.)

      --
      "The mind works quicker than you think!"
  39. Re:Ellen Wood Speed Reading Course.... by Xojo · · Score: 2
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  40. I resemble this remark!!! by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

    I regularly read technical works just to learn more about the world.

  41. I think speed reading is a hoax by Beeftopia · · Score: 1

    I think speed reading is a hoax. It *may* be an ability of those with some weird cognitive ability, like photographic memory or some such. But for anyone other than that, I think it's a hoax. My reading speed and comprehension has always been towards the top of the class and I've scored very highly on standardized tests. And I'm not a spring chicken. These are my conclusions on the various types of reading:

    1) There's skimming - that's not reading. If I were skimming a document, looking for keywords, I'd miss a lot of meaning but see my keywords. Were I tested on the document I'd "speed-read"/skimmed, I would fail. Apparently some people are referring to skimming as speed reading. Very low comprehension level reading.

    2) There's reading for long periods. That's not speed reading, that's just sustained reading. Like I've done when reading thick fiction novels over a weekend.

    3) There's pleasure reading, where the concepts are not complex and one is not tested on comprehension, one is doing it for pleasure. This is a faster rate of reading.

    4) Then finally there's dense academic reading. Reading the Dragon book, for example, or some other information-dense tome. That's the slowest pace, and the pace at which one attempts to uptake the most detail and absorb complex concepts.

    As best as I can make out, skimming is being sold as speed reading, in a most generous scenario. And it's not really even reading, other than scanning for keywords or scanning every third sentence or some such. Information uptake in such a scenario would be absolutely minimal.

    The ability to uptake information at a pleasure reading level, while moving through the document at skimming speed is what, as best as I can tell, supposed to be speed reading. And that is simply not possible for anyone, perhaps barring those with some very unusual cognitive capability along the lines of photographic memory and the like.

  42. Recall speed limits true input speed. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

    The nature of your brain circuits makes recall the inverse of the original input so you can't learn at any greater speed (or volume) than you can recall information. This basically proves that beyond a certain point that "speed reading" is impossible. However one can prime the brain with information at a high rate so that when related but more structured input is received it is better able to retain it. In other words speed reading could improve recall if you then read the material at a normal rate the next day after a good sleep.

  43. Speed vs retention by Chas · · Score: 2

    The big tradeoff most people get with speed reading is lack of the ability to actually retain the information beyond cursory information (see the War and Peace joke above).

    While my reading speed is accelerated, it's not as fast as it possibly could be. But my general retention is quite high.
    There's also the fact that, with my preferred material, I tend to re-read books over time. So my overall retention of material tends to increase with subsequent exposures.

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    THANK GOD!!!
  44. Just read a lot - you'll get better at it by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Just read a lot - you'll get better at it.
    Attempting to just hunt down key words will lead to disappointment in the long run.

  45. Speed reading is awesome by dwheeler · · Score: 1

    Speed reading is awesome, but there's more than one speed. There's at least "speed with full comprehension", and "skimming to get the gist". I strongly recommend training yourself, overtime, to increase both speeds. You CAN'T do this all at once, but you can train your brain to recognize words more quickly. I used a training device so that I could recognize individual words more quickly, and that really helps you to read more quickly with full comprehension. Basically, as brain gets faster recognizing individual words, you'll naturally read faster with full comprehension. (You should also know how to sound out unfamiliar words, but familiar words should be recognzied quickly.) When you're skimming to get the gist, it's more about strategy - figuring out what parts of the text you need to read first (in most technical documents you read the abstract carefully, then skim the conclusions, then skim the introduction if looks like it might be useful.

    I also recommend training listening speed. I listen to lots of podcasts, and I've slowly increased my listening speed by +10% over time. I can now listen to podcasts, with full comprehension, at 2x through 2.5x (depending on the original speed of the speakers).

    Your brain can be trained to do things more quickly, but you have to train it. It's worth it.

    --
    - David A. Wheeler (see my Secure Programming HOWTO)
  46. Reader's Digest Condensed Books by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    "Wouldn't it be great if you could read a novel in an hour or two?"

    You used to be able to. Reader's Digest used to publish Reader's Digest Condensed Books. In effect, they did the speed-reading for you. I have to say that they did a very skillful job of the editing, too. Very impressive. But not really that enjoyable to read.

    They don't seem to be around any more.

  47. Re:75k wpm/99% comprehension by juntaka · · Score: 1

    Right, cause you can turn the pages that fast.

  48. Slashdot Takes Speed Reading to the Next Level! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 2

    Here at Slashdot, no one ever RTFA at all. It's much faster that way.

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  49. It's useless to me now by EdwinFreed · · Score: 1

    I learned how to speed read in high school. For me, it only works on straightforward fiction, and (a) I miss stuff and (b) The effort involved spoils the enjoyment of reading. It had some limited value in lit and history classes, but now that I'm no longer in school it's useless to me. And I get annoyed if I catch myself doing it with a book to get to the "good parts"

  50. THANK YOU! by tlambert · · Score: 1

    THANK YOU!

    I have exactly the same thing: I normally read very quickly. I can still recite the entire first chapter of "The Hobbit", which I read in 5th grade, from memory, or the Edward Gorey poem "The Wuggley Ump", which I read in 7th as a dramatic reading exercise on cold reading text.

    250 pages in 1.5-2 hours, depending on grade level.

    I can speed-read as well, but I tend to get that number down to about 15 minutes. I don't enjoy speed reading, since it tends to blow my book budget, and I miss things -- but as I said, I don't normally speed read, unless I'm getting dropped into a meeting in place of someone else, and they are likely to try to "pull one over on the substitute person" (then I enjoy it immensely, but not for the reading itself).

    Please don't lump people who read quickly with those who speed-read. It's not my fault your teachers taught you "whole word reading" in school.

  51. Re:75k wpm/99% comprehension by tlambert · · Score: 1

    LOL.

    This was my coping mechanism for dyslexia! I follow along in my head and on the page at the same time, and when they don't match, I know there's a problem.

    PS: Also read very fast, as previously stated; same comprehension level as you.

  52. Speed anything by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    It's about as good as anything else. Speed eating. Speed cooking. Speed sex. It's one thing to race to the finish and say you're done. It's another thing to say you actually had the experience and savored it. Practice practice practice will get your reading speed up. I finish the typical paperback in 8 hours or so because I've been reading for years. My wife can't believe the amount of books I go through in a month. I can read faster, but I end up missing bits. When I reach a well written passage, or when I read technical documents, I read slower or re-read to be sure I understood.

    But if you're the kind of person that has to say the words you're reading out loud... no, just.... no.

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    Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
  53. Books or tech? by meburke · · Score: 1

    OK, (self-directed pointer ALERT!), 3 years ago I wanted to learn a little about WordPress, and I I wrote my first and only (to date) blog article; http://rocomai.com/wordpress/ I criticize Blio for not being as good as it needs to be. It does not meet the needs of modern learners, and all the apps I've tried preclude decent speed reading.

    Speed reading works especially well for gathering information, but not so well for absorbing skills or know-how.

    Reading and learning are different, but related and overlapping, skills.

    My experience is simple: When I'm in practice, I can absorb huge amounts of information and facts very rapidly using speed reading techniques. I get out of practice because my use of speed reading is not totally relaxing and stress-free, and I tend to do it only when I need to.

    --
    "The mind works quicker than you think!"
  54. Fad by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    My 6th and 7th grade classes were big on the educational fads and tried to get me into speed reading. None of their techniques worked that well. Probably because I actually rather enjoyed reading and didn't care to rush through it. If really felt like one of those new-age hippie fads.

    Funnily one time I was paging through a log file at full terminal speed. My boss came in and said "There is no possible way you could be reading it that fast." I said "I'm not reading it. I'm looking for a change in the pattern." and then stopped and showed him how the exception I was looking for clearly stood out from everything else in the log.

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    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

  55. Re:Ellen Wood Speed Reading Course.... by AstroSurf · · Score: 1

    > Circa 1976/1977

    No, no. It was earlier than that. In fact, when the Batman show was on the air in the '60s, Burt Ward (who played Robin) was said to be a graduate of Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics and a MUCH speedier reader than is claimed for the system today ($700. http://www.ewrd.com/ewrd/evely... ). The claim was VERY high, like 10,000 wpm, equivalent to reading Hamlet in 1 minute.

    I read avidly before I went to school and was pretty much a black hole for text until the Interwebs went public and text became a black hole for me!!! So I've been FASCINATED with the idea of such overachieving reading since I first read that Robin could do it. Sadly, it was well out of my price range (and still is!) though I dearly wanted to read that fast. Thanks for bringing the system up and letting me find out its status today (still too pricey).

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    Astro
  56. Re:Ellen Wood Speed Reading Course.... by meburke · · Score: 1

    Sorry, typos I went from 1200 wpm to over 800 wpm and the blog is at http://www.rocomai.com/

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    "The mind works quicker than you think!"
  57. Rarely useful by sjames · · Score: 1

    In many ways, speed reading is everything wrong with modern education summed up. It's all about how to cram facts in quickly so you canm regurgitate them 30 minutes later and forget them by tomorrow.

    If you really want to know the material you have to relate it to what you already know and that takes thinking going on in parallel with reading. Otherwise, it's only slightly less ephemeral than last night's dream.

    It can somewhat improve your base reading rate if you allow yourself to fall back to an unhurried pace and stay there, and if you need just a few bits of information out of a poorly formatted manual, it can help you skim for the bits you need so in that sense, it's not a total loss.

  58. Cut the waffle by petes_PoV · · Score: 1

    it's extremely unlikely you can greatly improve your reading speed without missing out on a lot of meaning."

    So many articles today are padded, just to make the word-count.

    When reading these, it is frequently annoying to have to wade through paragraphs of irrelevant material, searching for the few lines of new information, or the single insight. For texts like this, skimming, speed-reading, or going sraight to the conclusions makes a lot of sense and saves a great deal of time.

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  59. Voltaire's Bastards by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    One of the most informative, worldview changing books I have ever read was Voltaire's Bastards. It took the author 10 years of research to write it. While very well written it took me much longer than normal to read it as the book is not only information dense but you really have to give your brain a while to digest the information almost like learning math; there is no speed reading a math textbook, unless you already know the material.

    So I would argue that speed reading might be possible where the author has done the classic: why use one word where twenty will do. But for any real information or learning I don't think it will be of much help.

  60. It works, it takes practice. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

    Speed reading works.

    I was trained in highschool and greatly increased my reading speed. But it took 90 days of practice and training.

    But it's real.

    --
    She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
  61. No fan either by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    "Not everyone -- including yours truly -- is a fan of this. There are several studies that suggest that 'speed reading' result in people missing out on lots of tidbits."

    I'm not a fan either for recreational reading, but for work or science stuff, where most of the words are 'filling' and not much of it real information, it's OK.

    And now for a joke that you can't speed read.

    Last week I was in a zoo, where they had just a single animal, a dog.
    It was a Shitzu.

  62. Re:For me it's shit.. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    problem it that my brain have serious problem processing that amount of test input.

    Speed writing sucks too.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  63. Some can by nature, some need a little training. by Whuffo · · Score: 1

    Most people can not speed read; it's just not possible for them and they'll never be able to understand what it means. For the fortunate ones - it's not skimming or skipping words or anything like that, it's reading - just faster. I get all the meaning and pleasure from a book, it just takes more books to keep me happy. If you're running a finger down the page, using cards, or applying any other tricks, you're faking it. And if you can't do it, that's OK. The important thing is being able and willing to read.

  64. Re:For me it's shit.. by gweihir · · Score: 1

    You are one of the lucky ones that notice they are missing out. Most that can do speed-reading apparently do not even notice. Speed-reading is truly the big-mac of literacy.

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  65. Re: E.g. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    If you're referring to the first thing Google throws at you, that's a typo. If you look carefully, it uses titbits twice lower down.

    The t variants are used by proper English speakers and the d forms by puritanical nutbags.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  66. You should try 'Speed Writing' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... I took a speed reading course where you run your finger down the middle of the page and was able to read 'War and Peace' in twenty minutes. It's about Russia ...

    Try Speed Writing to double the fun
     
    ... and yes, you can write with your fingers

  67. Obviously by nintendoeats · · Score: 1

    I knew somebody who said that he read the sixth Harry Potter book in 3 hours. I quizzed him. He failed. You cannot read faster than your mind can process information. My girlfriend reads creepily fast, but that's because her mind works very fast. Not even she would claim to be able to pull off a feat like that.

    1. Re:Obviously by treczoks · · Score: 1

      The HP books have a certain information density to them, so I dropped the speed of reading them down to about 100 to 120 pages per hour, And I have read them in English, which is not my native language. You could have quizzed me back then, and I would expect not to have failed (I actually won a radio quiz on the first HP volume which I had read weeks ago). Because I do read, not skim the text.

  68. Speed reading is just a tool by morbingoodkid · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why people think it is a either or situation. Depending on exactly what you consider to be speed reading of course ?

    1. Being able to speed read allows you to take in a lot of knowledge at a rapid pace but just like regular reading you need to go back and read the book again if you want to retain more knowledge.

    2. Speed reading does not mean that you lose the ability to read slowly and carefully.

    3. Even when doing regular reading the amount of knowledge retained are not that great.

    4. Speed reading when used correctly and effectively allows you to decide how much knowledge you wish to retain per reading and overall decrease the time you site passive while reading.

  69. I'm a 'natural' speed reader by treczoks · · Score: 1

    I've always been a fast reader. I actually started reading English books as an adolescent to reduce my reading speed (I'm not a native speaker of the English tongue). Even as a kid I did not need my members passes at the local libraries (they all knew me), and I was exempt from rule "children may only borrow two book at a time". In university, I attended a course on speed reading for fun, and my initial test was way faster than the tutors, and I still managed to gain an additional 10-20% boost by the course.

    So I read about 100-200 pages per hour in English and 600-800 pages per hour in German. All while remembering a lot of details and enjoying fine points that even 'normal' readers might miss. I can sit down with the Lord of the Rings right after lunch and have read it by dinner, and still see the fine linguistic differences between the individual people in Middle Earth. And you can ask me about different scenes, and I can e.g. tell you that this scene is about _here_, on the lower left side.

    This is also quite power consuming, i.e. my heart frequency and body temperature rises, and I actually absolutely cannot do this with a clogged-up nose, making having a cold many times as miserable...

    I would not say that I miss out on things because of the speed reading - I do not skim, I _do_ read. And having information and storylines 'more present' due to the short temporal distances usually helps understanding a story better. I cannot imagine how people can cope with a story like Ted Williams Otherland when they have to spread reading it over weeks and months - all the issues of normal life in between reading a few pages here and there must be horrible (I spread reading the series over four days).

    Over time, the detail knowledge of a story fades, of course, usually after having read some more books in the mean time. But something is always kept, and pops up when I re-read a book, or when I need the knowledge.

  70. It isn't any fun but it works. by MensaMoron · · Score: 1

    Back in the 60s I was part of a program in our school district. The idea was to see how fast kids could read and still past comprehension tests. Kids who scored in the top 1% on aptitude tests could be part of the program.
    I was shown books a few grades above my current 5th grade level. The pages were projected and timed. The speed was increased until my test scores slipped below 80%. As I got better the speed was increased again and so on. After a while I was reading a page in 3 to 4 seconds. I could read a 100 page book in 5 minutes and pass a test on it.
    I have used the faster reading in math, science and computer classes ever since. It is useless for enjoying fiction. This drains all of the fun. I slow down to conversation speed for those kinds of books. It is like running through the Louvre.

  71. It's real by cwsumner · · Score: 1

    Speed reading is real, but the definition varies.

    It's not a speed, but a technique. It's not "scanning" for words or phrases, that's different. It's better than the beginner's way of sounding out words one at a time, but that might still be necessary in unfamiliar subjects.

    It actually involves training the eyes and brain to read multiple words from one "snapshot" of vision. Once practiced (with the help of special projectors) we could read several words from a flash at 1/10000 sec. That means a whole sentence in one or two "focus points" on the page. "Flash" into memory and then read from the memory, while the eye is focusing on the next spot. This also reduces eye fatigue.

    The best way to read is to adjust your speed so that it "flows" smoothly, with good comprehension. Comprehension is different from memory retention, though, and you can tell the difference. As you read the speed should change as the subject and material change. This becomes automatic with practice, find something you like to read about and that will give you the practice.

    Comprehension is different from memory, and if tested should be done immediatly. Test memory the next day.

    I had a course called "reading improvement" after highschool, in a 2 year tech school. I was amazed at the results for the class. We started at speeds of 120 to 300 wpm. By the end we were at 400 to 1500 wpm. Even the slowest students improved a lot. It did include comprehension testing.

  72. Never wanted to speed read by whitroth · · Score: 1

    I timed myself, in my teens, as maxing at about 250 wpm. Speed reading? Hell, I'd never be able to keep myself in books! And, from all I've heard and read over the decades, you certainly don't get it.

    I don't like voice books. As fast as I can read, I sometimes want to glance back a paragraph, or a page, so that something makes sense.

                          mark

  73. I am a very slow reader. by cabazorro · · Score: 1

    When I read King's "The Stand" I pictured people crucified in the electric posts along the highway. I imagine birds pecking at their heads as the sunset sets in. I heard in my head the whirring sound of a motor bike puttering along the highway. It felt normal, and yet foreign. I reminisced of Planet of the Apes forbidden zone with the furry warning effigies. The bongos, the drums, the ocean waves deafening sound as bright eyes falls on his knees. It felt like an eternity. Then I turned the page.

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