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Hacker Collective Attacks KKK Sites (theepochtimes.com)
An anonymous reader writes: A KKK web site went offline for several hours Saturday, part of an ongoing attack campaign being attributed to "several hacker collectives, including Anonymous and BinarySec, under a loosely-coordinated operation theyâ(TM)re calling #OpKKK." The Epoch Times newspaper reports that "Over the course of the last couple months, websites belonging to the KKK flicked off and on, members of the hate group have had their identities posted online, and their recruiting efforts have been attacked." Saturday's DDoS attack and others are being chronicled on Twitter with the hashtag #OpKKK, prompting the newspaper to describe the collective as "very active".
"Part of OpKKK is bringing attention to the fact that these groups are not dead and are in fact finding a new life online..." one attacker told the newspaper. "We private citizens have the right to pass judgment and respond to hate speech and those who perpetuate these dangerous ideals...and there are consequences."
"Part of OpKKK is bringing attention to the fact that these groups are not dead and are in fact finding a new life online..." one attacker told the newspaper. "We private citizens have the right to pass judgment and respond to hate speech and those who perpetuate these dangerous ideals...and there are consequences."
Even the KKK deserves their freedom of speech. I might support a temporary disruption of service purposes of raising awareness of an issue - the online equivalent of a sit-in protest - but I think everyone is already aware that the KKK exists.
FTA: "Groups like the KKK are protected by free speech. Zombie Ghost said, however, that only the government isn’t allowed to infringe on free speech, and that “We private citizens have the right to pass judgment and respond to hate speech and those who perpetuate these dangerous ideals and there are consequences.”"
I've been hearing this misunderstanding of free speech more and more. He is right, in that we have a right to pass judgement as private citizens. He is wrong in the part left unsaid. Private citizens do NOT have a right to impose "consequences", especially when those consequences are illegal.
Shocked they haven't tried to change the pages with support ad's for trump to try to push he is racist some more. At this point KKK has been pretty peaceful and certain other group won't say (#blacklivesmatterbutnottootherblacklives) are ones that loot and burn buildings down when they find an something that happens they can protest for even when the something is for a criminal that played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
How's that working out?
> Even the KKK deserves their freedom of speech.
Exactly this.
If KKK (or Nazi, or anyone) are so wrong, you should prove it with ease - and by doing so make everyone hate them. Simple?
But liberalism is afraid some of the things they say might be right. While it it wrong itself.
Fuck liberalism and their hypocrisy.
LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
Terrorists, yes. "Arm of the Democratic Party" means you're insane. It's like saying white Americans are slave owners today, because different white people hundreds of years ago in the same geographic region did own slaves. They are very clearly not aligned with the modern Democratic Party.
By attacking their web sites like that, you reinforce their world view. The only potentially effective action in that list is identifying them; force them to justify the KKK to their family, friends, co-workers, and voters.
"white Americans are slave owners today" it is not completely false.
USA does kiss Saudi ass. And in Saud's emirates/Yemen the slavery is practically legal. So while US citizens do not hold slaves, their regime directly supports and protects several countries using slave labor.
Also, one could argue that inmates in the American prison system are in fact, slaves. A permanent, un-escapable underclass to be exploited by the capitalists. Just like USSR =)
Other then that, nope no slavery in USA... But they don't oppose it, when its profitable. Just like USSR =)
No, it's not a media campaign, it's deliberately denying them a right. It's not, in substance, any different than you gagging them. Your line of illogic lead to Kuchners death squads. It's not the government, so it's okay.
in this case, it’s one private group (a loose affiliation of Anonymous and some others) waging a media campaign against another private group.
They're note "waging a media campaign" they're breaking the law. Like all SJWs you appear to think it's fine to break the law when the victims disagree with you.
even the most unblased judges are going to have some trouble sympathizing with the KKK.
Clearly you believes that groups who have different views to you should not be entitled to justice. Nobody should be denied the right to justice.
Next, we need a female president. (There are male candidates I align with better, but she would do the job adequately, certainly better than GWB.)
So you're voting for your presidential candidate based on their sex and not on their policies? That's clear sexism. Of course, you SJWs believe sexism is fine when it aligns with your goals.
In your post you condone sexism, discrimination against groups based on their opinion and denying justice to anyone who disagrees with you. This once again shows that SJWs are the most intolerant, discriminatory and vile people on the face of the earth, but you're so blinded by the belief that you're right that you're unable to recognise how truly evil you are.
I know who'd be on my priority hit list
Why do you say we "need" a female president? How is she more qualified because she has a vagina? That is the definition of sexist right there! If you actually cared about equality you would look at qualifications, values, and character rather than sexual organs.
You are part of the problem right here. Thinking that we have some sort of "need" to check off some box of certain criteria for a person, female, black, gay, rather than look at the quality of their character or their qualifications to do a job. That is a dangerous game you are playing. Also, curious that you only mentioned black, female, and gay. What is wrong you have something against, hermaphrodites, Brazilians, Chinese, Eskimos, Indians (Native or Asian), Australians, Irish, Colombians, or any others? Why are any of them not deserving of your special qualifying check marks that we are in "need" of achieving?
The presidency is not an achievements based game of equal opportunity, it is highest level of office for the Executive Branch, now start treating it as such. Skin color, racial makeup, sexual preference, hair color, and underwear choice have nothing to do with it. But the propensity to commit felonies during and in order to make into a public office sure do show the character of the candidate.
This should prove interesting
CCC = Chaos Compter Club, a German hacker collective.
I am guessing that groups like the KKK are monitored by federal law enforcement.
Could such hacking muck with ongoing investigations?
Not long ago, the feds told hacktivists to stop trying to take down ISIS communications. These actions interfere with the people who can actually do something to stop terrorist organizations.
BTW: what has the KKK done in the last 50 years? A few pointless marches?
How is that appropriate? The government is not suppressing anybody here.
Karma: Terrifying (mostly affected by atrocities you've committed)
Meh, outlet. Did the KKK burn any nigger lately? Or are they these days just nostalgic people dressing up in white costumes with pointy hats?
Where? The only people i see constantly silencing anyone who doesnt agree with them is the left. Who blocked access to political rallies because they didnt like the speaker? The left. Who constantly puts false labels on people to silence and discredit them such as mysoginist, racist, homophobe, just for disagreeing. The left. Who creates buzzwords such as mansplaining to literally silence the opinions of half the population from discussion. The left Who says that only white people can be racist because some bullshit about power dynamics which doesnt exist, to silence the views of people. The left Who sets up "safe spaces" that literally segregate themselves and not allow people with different opionions in based solely on sex and race? The left Who yells cultural appropriation at things not even part of their culture and deems everyone a bigot. The left.
In the fight against supremacists, choosing one's battles is as important as it is in any other war. I would suggest that the kind of supremacists that are currently imposing social theories from central government, regardless of how benign or "beneficial" we might, personally, believe those theories to be, are far more dangerous than "hate" groups. After all, "hate" is the emotion of the powerless.
Toward this end, I would suggest that sorting proponents of social theories into governments that test them is a much nobler objective.
This would include permitting those individuals who believe a "white" (whatever that means to them) society is better for them, to enjoy, or suffer, the consequences of that social theory so long as they are willing to accept the testing of other social theories. Sure, there are reasons to believe those calling themselves "KKK" believe not only in "white" supremacy, but in slavery. However, until proponents of alternate social theories cease imposing them on these "KKK" members, it is quite plausible that many of these "white" supremacists would actually be quite happy to see a fair, empirical, comparison of social theories put in to practice by mutually consenting adults.
Indeed, given the present power structure, those who are attacking the "white" supremacists rather than the on-going violation consent by central government imposition of social theory, are moral cowards, hypocrites and supremacists deserving of even more intense counter-attack.
Seastead this.
The fact that the quote applied originally to one set of thugs that happened to be the legal government of Germany doesn't mean that it isn't appropriate for another set of thugs who aren't a government.
Well said. Wish I could mod it up - /sarcasm and shoot the people who moded it down... /sarcasm off
I am guessing that groups like the KKK are monitored by federal law enforcement.
At this point, most of the members are probably FBI agents.
Could such hacking muck with ongoing investigations?
Yup.
BTW: what has the KKK done in the last 50 years? A few pointless marches?
Indeed. This is just pointless if not counter-productive moral preening by SJWs high on over-hyped racism/"white supremacy" bullshit. It's the modern version of '50s McCarthyites seeing a Commie under every bed. It's the same mania that recently led college students to mistake a priest with rosary beads for a KKK member with a whip.
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So it's purely an accident that there has been precisely one black president since the 13th Amendment was passed over 150 years go, and no female presidents since the 19th Amendment nearly 96 years ago, right?
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Also:
Who redefines words - and promulgates the revised meanings through media and educational institutions - so Constitutional provisions and the debates that went into their construction seem to say something different than - and often the opposite of - what they actually said? The left.
Who came up with the concept of "code words" and used it to redefine the meaning of ordinary words spoken by anyone arguing a position they disagree with, so they can edit their arguments even as they're being uttered, leaving their opponents with a language crippled by "holes" where necessary and convincing words used to be? The left.
Newspeak is doubleplus alive and well.
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It should be interesting when one of their number goes to the federal pen and they learn that one of the first things a new inmate will face is people looking into the charges to see if they're "solid." When they find out what they are convicted for they will surely let the guys on G-Block know about it. Who are the guys on G-Block? Well, I don't really know but, in my head, that's where they house the confirmed members of the Aryan Nation or Aryan Brotherhood. In other words, the prison gang that's the equivalent of "Extreme Difficulty Level" of the KKK is what is housed on G-Block.
Some staffer (I kind of doubt they still call 'em screws like a 60s movie) will probably find some entertainment value in ensuring that this pasty kid (who's probably white) gets housed on the afore-mentioned G-Block. If there's one thing the Aryan Nation or Brotherhood really, really, really like it is the people that they consider to be "race traitors." About the only time these White Supremacy groups interact with people of other races is when they want to collect rent, go to war, or buy/sell drugs. It's also not gay if it happens behind bars.
Now, I am not saying that I wish that to happen. I am saying nothing of the sort. I'm saying that, if convicted at the federal level and sentenced to serve time, that's the probable outcome. No, the days of a "hacker" being a privileged inmate and being housed in the white-collar pods are long over. These guys aren't Kevin Mitnik and they're not afraid that they can chitter like a MODEM and set off nuclear weapons. The government is well aware that they're just script kiddies with LOIC and broadband. They're just common criminals in the eyes of the government.
It's not right that the staff will amuse themselves by tossing these kids into G-Block to be their new plaything but that's what's going to happen. They may even just make sure that a copy of the kid's paperwork gets dropped off. They also, these G-Block residents, make it a point to only admit member who are rather well built and rather violent - as in, requiring proof of past violence or acts of violence as a condition of entry. The slang, "Blood in, blood out?" Yeah, that's not a joke. That's not just a slogan for marketing purposes. I'm thinking that these "hackers" have not actually given a whole lot of thought to the potential consequences of their actions. Alternatively, they are completely ignorant of the consequences of their actions.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
How young are you? When I was young, the Democrats were the ones who (literally) didn't want me going to school with their children.
My point is that it was not "hundreds" of years ago. Hell, when I was a kid there were still people alive who could remember bits and pieces of the American Civil War. It wasn't that long ago that they were rolling out the red carpet for Strom and the other guy - both avowed KKK members. I think one was Grand Wizard at one point. This was, what, in the 2000s?
There are still a ton of racists who align with the political left though, I suppose, that's a topic for another day.
You're correct in that the KKK has nothing to do with the Democrats today. That is correct. However, it was not that long ago when they were certainly happy to take the votes from those who were. It's no longer politically expedient for them to be racists in that particular manner. That's the reason for the change, not any underlying beliefs.
To touch on that, I'm sorry but that shit called Affirmative Action is just saying that minorities can't do it on their own and need help to be competitive. There was a time when it was necessary, perhaps, because they were given no opportunity. Those generations are now not in charge - and they haven't been for a while. The belief in inferiority is still there. It's just expressed differently. It's called pandering. Specifically, pandering to a voting bloc. It'd appear lots of people are dumb enough to fall for it - that's not an accusation of you, not at all. That's in reference to the larger subject which is, unfortunately, going to take more time than I have available.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I've skimmed through all one-hundred-and-something comments; I'm surprised no one has made one joke about whether these guys should be considered black-hat or white-hat hackers...I thought the KKK had priority when it comes to white hats...
By "not so long ago", you mean half a century
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I like how these stories always bring out the racists.
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I looked up SJW, and one thing I noticed was the tendency to throw insults at people who disagree with them. You may be falling into that same trap.
Now, while it's certainly denying the KKK a right, keep in mind that this will ultimately resolve itself. It's not like they're going to be denied this right permanently. Also, by doing this, Anonymous is using their usual moral gray area practices to do social justice. The ultimate effect is that it'll draw both Anonymous and KKK practices more into the public eye, and both will be scrutinized.
Is it okay to DDoS *anyone*? Yes. DDoSing terrorists is definitely something we should do. They're killing people. Are the KKK killing people? Are they recruiting people to hurt others? If so, then there's criminal activity, and a DDoS attack would be appropriate. If all they're doing is spouting racist bullshit, then denying them civil rights is not appropriate, but making OTHER websites that shame them is.
That is, unless you're advocating racism.
Those without maturity worry most about what others say about them. Experience proves that it is often simplest to let the hate-filled mind vent until their folly is self-evident to all. Repression of speech will often serve as validation to some audiences.
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I can see why you post as an AC.
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Fucktard.
Oh, they're not related to the Circle-K food stores are they?
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