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Fired Reddit Exec Launches Competing Site (thenextweb.com)
An anonymous reader writes: "Dan McComas, the former second-in-command at Reddit -- and vocal critic of its more inflammatory groups -- wants to build a better Reddit, one that focuses on 'healthy, positive communities,'" reports TheNextWeb. Raising $3 million, Imzy.com quietly launched earlier this year with over 500 discussion forums, aspiring to become an advertising-free space where content creators can interact with their fans. Moderators and users of Imzy can be "tipped" with online payments from other users, while the site hopes to remain advertising-free by taking a cut from on-site transactions. But "at its core though, Imzy wants to provide a safe place to share and discuss without the fear of being harassed, a problem Reddit has struggled with for several years."
oh, and positive, too.
A social media platform that excludes the hate machine element?
As much as I agree with the idea, I wonder if people would get behind something like that.. Anonymity is very good at fuelling assumptions that the other party is in a fighting mood and quickly results in people being defensive instead of constructive.
Also it sounds like something where constructive criticism might easily get confused for "malicious opinions" and be discarded, resulting in a filter which removes far too much of the message along with the noise.
I clicked the link and visited the site. It looks like it was designed for Barney fans.
We need something better than Usenet... Oh wait, nothing has been better than usenet, as not a single damned "service" allows you to easily filter information.
All because a site that regularly has comments and/or topics pruned due to "questionable" speech had people bitch at him because threads like /fatpeoplehate existed.
What a joke. Let people have their speech. This is the internet, where you DON'T have to click and "listen" to what others say.
FTFY.
Sound like a pretty bad idea to me at first glance.
Reminds me of a newspaper startup back in the 80's(?) called Good News, that only printed uplifting and cheerful stories. Needless to say that experiment didn't last long.
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This sounds like fun.
Everybody pick a persona and a trigger or three.
I'll get to work building a Troll API. I'm thinking a way to instantiate trollbot instances and run trollscript. Now that I think about, this has to already exist. Anybody know where?
Going to need distributed spidering, will they let us post from TOR, doubt it...we're going to need a lot of sacrificial IP addresses...
In the mean time, lets grab as many admin/moderator roles as we can, while the grabbing is good.
You can never escape the assholes. It is impossible. There is always going to be someone there to hate on you.
So his plan is to make a community of people who are afraid of "harassers", and need to be protected by them via censorship. They then combine that with having users mods exploit for cash. Does nobody else see how poorly these two things go together?
I understand the value of a place like this. A positive, clean environment where I can feel safe. I'm tired of the harassment and constant fighting I see in other sites. I can't wait to join. I just have a quick question. The lobotomy, does it come free with membership or do I have to pay separately?
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
I went to the page, and my browser immediately started asking me for "permission to send me notifications", ala "in-browser nagging and begging".
Instant turn off. Jesus fucking christ, can't you even wait until someone joins before starting to pester the shit out of them??
Also, alll the stuff about "healthy, positive communities" sounds like codespeak for "SJW's run this place". As if Reddit wasn't already infested with all the "safe space" and "triggering" and "micro-aggression" bullshit, this looks to be built for SJW's from the ground up.
Yeah, umm thanks, but I'll pass on this.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
What with blackjack and hookers?
As we've learned from the new Social Justice Warriors movement, many people feel "harassed" just by comments or actions that aren't intended to be harassing... hell, I've probably scared at least three people to their safe place just by this post alone.
Karma: Excellent. 15 moderator points expire sometime.
If it's another "everybody can upvote/downvote every post, all the time" site, then it'll end up the same as Digg and Reddit.
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...is that “Imzy” is a shite name for a web community.
Will it start with fake posts about cats? That's how reddit got started and look what that got them - forums full of retards.
Voat.co already exists. Way better than reddit in terms of layout and features
it looks like someone used craigslist css to for a forum and tried to make it seems like Usenet?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
If you have to ask you will never know. But your credit card will be charged regardless. Welcome to the new age of safe places.
The site's footer has "Copyright © 2016". Since when has it been 2016?!
Horrible domain choice. In a helvetia, sans-serif world, is that an "i" or an "L"? Hell, even typing this comment I had to mix-case to get the point across.
It's already dead, it just doesn't know yet.
The term "safe space" makes me think of a place that's moderated for ideas certain people don't agree with, as opposed for just trolls and harassment. The people who make a website interesting are the ones who are willing to have real discussions, and you aren't going to draw those people in by censoring ideas. The only way for a popular "safe space" to form on the web is if it starts out as an open discussion board, becomes successful, and then the "safe space" people come in and demand that it be made safe for them.
getting tired of people railing against social justice? Anyway, I'll just leave this here.
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Yeah, I'll pass on that.
This sounds like a good place to run confidence scams.
It's called Tumblr. At least for the values of "Healthy" and "Positive" that he's likely solving for.
Unfortunately the press got just about everything wrong here. We are not a safe space, nor are we warmer or fuzzier.
Your reaction is to a reporter who hasn't even used the site, which is a bummer, I think you all know how wrong the press can be.
No off topic post.
That should be the final nail in what was a good site.
The unhealthy balances the healthy by providing an outlet. Maybe there is some spill-over, but I find that in a discussion on Python Programming there is very little politics, racism, etc. There are excellent forums where people can crap on Trump supporters, or others where they can kiss the Trump ring. For the most part I would say that the "healthy" parts of reddit stay more pure than similar discussions in Slashdot. I don't know how many slashdot threads I have seen that started out with a metallurgical breakthrough where someone's comment mentioned Ayn Rand, and then proceeded into a huge libertarian knife fight.
So maybe 4chan levels aren't needed but if someone wants to set up an area where they hate some group, then great, now it will be less likely to spill over into my discussion of new features in C++.
"wants to build a better Reddit, one that focuses on 'healthy, positive communities,"
So he's building a retirement community then...
Certainly nothing on the internet.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I remember when disgruntled guys creating new USENET groups didn't end up getting $3 million for their trouble.
who is his target audience? children under 12?
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
So it'll be like Twitter from back before Twitter was a microblog host.
Everybody's concentrating on the pie-in-the-sky dream of removing bad actors from social commentating. But look at the differences in this platform. No anonymous posts, although it seems possible to send a nameless post. Writing a community board, it seems, costs money. To that end, it's similar to WordPress. Monetizing subscribers will eliminate the braying donkeys from the web-site but how many sincere subscribers want to pay to speak? If people were willing to do that, Facebook, 4chan, Reddit, etc would all be pay-to-say. It's not the echo chamber mentality threatening this site, it's the entirely reasonable demand for compensation.
... are the moderators
nobody complains about a roast, because it's understood you're there for fun. It's the random bit of nastiness thrown out at LGBTs that Gaiman and thoses "SJWs" are railing against.
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what people and what groups. Specifically. I'd like to know. I do see them angry at Nazi's. And I do see them angry at police officers who feel they can get away with extra force against blacks. You'll noticed I said 'extra', not excessive. The problem being that cops feel safe using _more_ force and that makes the likelihood of things getting out of hand higher...
You're words are hollow. What I hear is the same technique Karl Rove pioneered. I'm not even sure I'm aware you're doing it. It's a simple technique: Whatever negative traits you're side has you accuse the other side of having. See "Swift Boating" for the best known example of this ever (and by no means the most egregious).
So again, you show me a case of a "Social Justice Warrior" treating someone who deserves respect with disdain. Be specific, and citations would be nice.
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by serviscope_minor (Score:0, Troll)
I think your post has been analyzed and rated appropriately.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
hope that group of speech nazis tears itself apart.
What is this, the official My Little Dragon website? The front page looks like a place for five year olds to play, not educated adults to converse. I really don't see any good conversations or arguments coming from that place, so I'll not be signing up for an account.
--- Keep the choice with the user..
Try to tell some rightwingnutjob that they're wrong, or there's no god, or that there IS AGW, and they rush off to grouphug mode then come back as a pack of ravening chihuahuas to rip the "heathen" in a concerted "attack".
When I go to http://lmzy.com/ I get a Chinese web site.
"Bro". Basement dwelling geek/nerd. All the "you'll never have sex"/"never know what a girl is".
Seems like shaming language is used wherever it can be shoehorned in. It may well be used to nuke a conversation because there's nothing to win with by the one doing it, but there's absolutely nothing indicating that this is only used against SJWs.
Before you go with this argument, there's a distinction that should be addressed:
When someone creates a "space" in the real world, such as a golf course or a bakery, one has consumed that space within a physically limited territory; it may be, as with a bakery, that one has also reduced the survival capacity of a similar space due to lack of sufficient customers, etc. Now you have somewhere, and at times some service, in an actual physical space that can only support a certain number of such services, that some class(es) are not welcome in. This reduces opportunity in a very concrete way for the denied class(es.)
When someone creates a "space" online, in no way have they reduced the available spaces or access that already existed; they have in no way reduced the potential for new spaces to continue popping up; the potential users of that space come from a pool so much larger than any local, physical space that any well crafted space is likely to be able to survive, regardless of other spaces already existing, and there is nothing but the quality and features that determine who ends up going to which space.
Because of this, the outrage at dedicated spaces rings somewhat hollow. There are only a few (Facebook comes to mind) where the denied class(es) are seriously inconvenienced or disadvantaged due to what are near-monopolies on that particular type of space. Facebook is the most extreme example I can think of, with policies that actually separate friends and families, parents from kids and brothers from sisters. Yet people do get along without it. There also exist competing spaces that don't have the restrictions that Facebook does so there are similar options for those people; it's only a near-monopoly, not a full monopoly.
One last thing: Society has decided (wrongly, it seems to me, but, still) that certain types of spaces are to be classed. Bathrooms, for instance. This is pandering to those who are subject to neurosis about someone else of the opposite sex being near them when they perform their natural bodily functions. This is more of a social ill than anything else, but still, society says "okay." The message is clearly that it's okay to create spaces dedicated to this class or that class. And inconvenience? If you have to go, and the bathroom for your sex is occupied, and you can't go in the other one even if it is empty... oh yeah, that can be inconvenient, all right. :)
So online spaces dedicated to this class or that? Meh.
You have just provided the perfect definition of a SJW.