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Yahoo's Marissa Mayer In Line For $55M Severance If Fired Within A Year Of Sale (nytimes.com)

whoever57 writes: A Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing on Friday revealed that Yahoo's board has agreed to a $55 million severance package for Marissa Mayer if she loses her job within a year of a sale. That's a lot of money for a chief executive who hasn't been able to keep Yahoo's stock from falling. In 2015, the value of Yahoo's stock fell by 33%. Worth noting: most of the money from the severance package is composed of restricted stock units and options -- there's only $3 million in cold hard cash. Also, Yahoo revealed Mayer received a significant pay cut last year. Her "reported pay" was $36 million, but her "realized pay" is closer to $14 million.

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  1. Bah! by DaMattster · · Score: 2, Informative

    She shouldn't get jack shit! Tossed out on her ass. She upended many people's lives by discontinuing the work from home option. She only cares about Marissa Mayer.

    1. Re:Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      About the same time getting 55 million dollars for tanking a company?

    2. Re:Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe golden parachutes should be based on performance (long-term, over the course of employment).

      They shouldn't automatically get millions just for taking on a risky job.

    3. Re:Bah! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      About the same time getting 55 million dollars for tanking a company?

      Golden parachutes for corporate executives has been the norm for decades. Working from home is not the norm for most Silicon Valley employees. I only had one job in the last 20+ years that allowed working from home.

    4. Re:Bah! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Informative

      This happens because directors who sit on many boards want to make sure that when they get the boot, the huge payout will be easier to justify - "Just look at what they got for tanking the company." It has zero to do with performance, or they would have just fired her. It's not like they had to agree to this deal

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    5. Re:Bah! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      So because you didn't get it, fuck everyone else who did, right?

      No, I asked when it became a right to work from home. If your employment contract allows you to work from home, take advantage of it. However, that's not the norm for most Silicon Valley workers.

      Sounds like you're the one with sour grapes here.

      I would love for the hipsters in my office to work from home so they can stop complaining about how bad their 30 minute commute from San Francisco to Palo Alto was. I commute from the opposite direction and it takes an hour on the express bus (or two hours on the local bus), but I don't go on a daily hissy fit about my commute.

    6. Re:Bah! by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This. The guys sitting on the non-exec boards or renumeration boards are mostly from the same pool of people who are directors themselves in other companies. One hand washes the other... They're basically stealing from the shareholders, who mostly don't mind because the large institutional investors like pension funds are run by the same guys.

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    7. Re:Bah! by sphealey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Yahoo Board that rejected Microsoft's $43 billion takeover offer are the parties who committed breach of fiduciary duty. Everything that came after that has been a desperate attempt to stack sandbags in front of a tsunami.

      sPh

    8. Re:Bah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bingo! The biggest tell to this is asking the shareholders what they think of this deal. I mean, there are in fact the owners of the company, right?

      This is an organizational problem where boardmembers can decide the fate of one of their own, and they are completely shielded from the actual owners.

      There is a case to be made about the balance of power between the business and the shareholders, and the board is meant to balance the concerns of the two.

      But as of late, it has translated into excessive CEO pay and golden parachutes, and until the SEC decides to grow a pair and start prosecuting for racketeering or investor throw up their hands in disgust and refuse to give money to these assholes, nothing is going to change.

    9. Re: Bah! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

      So do thousands of janitors. Sadly your experience is about as worthwhile as theirs.

      If you want to make money in IT, cleaning up messes is part of the job.

  2. What's Yahoo?! by headkase · · Score: 2

    And therein lies the problem. Yahoo! isn't relevant any longer. I don't even know the last time I even thought of it.

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    1. Re:What's Yahoo?! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yahoo! had around $5bn in sales last year with a 56.65% gross profit margin - they made around $2bn in profits from their ad business alone. That's not exactly a failing company. They're small in comparison to the likes of Google, but a big part of their financial trouble is that they own 20% of Alibaba, which turned out to be a spectacularly good investment and they made more money from their investments than they did from operating the company. This makes investors nervous (if they wanted to own a stock whose value tracked the performance of Alibaba, they'd have bought Alibaba, not Yahoo!). The doom and gloom pronouncements have more to do with Wall Street than Silicon Valley.

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  3. That's a lot of money by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a lot of money, full stop. Nothing else needed to be said after that. Where can I get a job like that? I mean since the price of labor is going down and all... This is PROOF that ability and hard work has exactly jack shit to do with compensation or the Majick Fairytale Free Market.

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  4. But.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does she have to train her replacement?

    1. Re:But.. by tylersoze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That shouldn't be too hard. It's not like CEO's really do anything.

  5. $55 million severance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's that in MALE failed CEO dollars? 71 mil?

  6. Should probably have gotten negative compentastion by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That would be adequate for all the damage she did. But CEOs these days cannot fail anymore, no matter how stupid and destructive. They just get a few ten millions less in compensation, but still get indecently rich.

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  7. This is crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is one of those things that in one hundred years time people will look at with a similar kind of horror that most of us feel about the matter-of-fact slavery state of affairs in 19th century America. The system is ridiculous - those who decide the CEO's compensation package are, by and large, the members of the board. And who are the members of the board? By and large, CEOs of other companies. Shareholders have something to say, of course, but unless you own a sizeable chunk of a company, you might just as well ignore the whole thing. At any rate, if your chunk is big enough, you will have a seat on the board.

    Behold the robber barons of the 21st century.

  8. Re:Should probably have gotten negative compentast by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But CEOs these days cannot fail anymore, no matter how stupid and destructive.

    I got laid off along with 2,000+ employees from a Fortune 500 company several years ago. As for the CEO, he got 60% raise for having a lousy fiscal year. Rumor had it that he needed a new yacht to keep up with his peers, which is why these golden parachutes keep going up in value over the years.

  9. Some horrifying Key Statistics by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A TV pundit recently observed that each CEO of Yahoo has walked away with significant compensation after a short term, yet the stockholders have gotten nada in the form of dividends. And they may not get much when it's eventually sold off, or will get nothing if it goes bankrupt (which is less likely.)

    Ironically, I rely on Yahoo's "Finance" section for much of my own stock-picking: its "Key Statistics" page is by far my favorite one-page stock statistic summary. Here are some highlights (read: lowlights) for YHOO itself:

        Profit Margin (ttm): -87.74%
        Return on Assets (ttm): -0.16%
        Return on Equity (ttm): -12.82%
        Trailing Annual Dividend Yield3: N/A

    This paints a picture of a company that is losing money (negative profit margin), hasn't managed its assets well (negative return on assets and return on equity), and doesn't treat stockholders well (see ROA and ROE, together with no dividend.) Next, throw in a history of expensive golden parachutes to short-term CEOs and you've got a stock that no one (IMHO) should ever own.

    Sadly, those of us who have part of our money in S&P 500 funds have a few bucks that get to go along on this horrifying ride.

    1. Re:Some horrifying Key Statistics by kencurry · · Score: 2

      New and data aggregator: is (and was) the only thing Yahoo did well.

      I always liked their sports app and sports news. Seems like they never really figured out how to make money in the web 2.0 world like the other bigs managed to do. They sure spent money like crazy tho. Alibaba was a good investment for them, all the rest seemed to fizzle.

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  10. Correlation != Causation by PPH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Has anyone done a careful study to determine if high CEO compensation results in better company performance? The issue of correlation will have to account for the desire of greedy candidates for a CEO job to get on board with a company that is or will generate a lot of cash and profit so as to make a multi-million dollar pay package look justified.

    Anecdote: Many years ago*, I read a story about a small California oil company that had been driven into bankruptcy. The CEO had walked (or been canned) and a bankruptcy court judge assigned. As is customary, the judge appointed an interim manager to oversee the company through what was probably going to be a dissolution. But the company was such a basket case (and the potential pay so low), the only person he could find was a friend of his who was a janitor. The janitor proceeded to go through company records, find underperforming assets to sell, reorganize the core organization and bring the company out of the bankruptcy process as a profitable business. All for what was no more than a few times his janitor's salary.

    *This predates the birth of the Internet by some years, so I'm having trouble searching for a story on-line. IIRC, it was written up in the WSJ.

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    1. Re:Correlation != Causation by Lucidus · · Score: 2

      There was a study, published in 2014 by the University of Utah, which found a negative correlation. Companies with highly paid execs did significantly worse than companies run by mere mortals. You should Google it; the details are interesting.

  11. Re:The actual numbers don't matter by hambone142 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Naw. Failed female CEOs run for Governor or Vice President.

  12. Demote her to janitor by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make her earn her pay cleaning toilets. Eliminate her personal daycare and require her to report 7am every day.

    She'll quit the next day.

    Q.E.D.

  13. Huh? by s.petry · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I took GPs comment about a magic free market as I will explain.

    There is not a "free market" by any stretch of the imagination. We have Fascism, not "Free Market". Businesses spend billions of dollars putting in politicians that pass laws benefiting them. "Regulator" positions and top level executives are a revolving door, ensuring that businesses control regulation in addition to politics. Corruption is rampant, and average people are shat upon.

    Mayer's Golden Parachute for running a company downhill, and Yahoo's requirement to pay her more money than most families can make in a lifetime just to go away, is an example of corruption and a system which is morally bankrupt.

    Before you say it, Socialism is inherently fascist and won't fix the problems. Capitalism can correct fascism, after numerous heads get lopped off.

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  14. Re:Don't understand how they are still around by Agripa · · Score: 2

    The exodus has started from Yahoo Groups. They have not made their horrible interface worse in the past couple of weeks however there is every expectation that they will be discontinued or destroyed shortly.

    I wonder what will happen to the email services they provide to ISPs like AT&T which already work poorly or not at all.

  15. Re:The actual numbers don't matter by radarskiy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Used to be only failed male CEOs could run for governor or president.

  16. Re:Another Carly Fiorina in the making... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    Didn't she run against Jerry Brown for Governor at the same time Carly ran against Boxer?

    You're thinking of Meg Whitman, formerly of eBay and currently at HP.

  17. Stock value has jumped since July 2012. by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

    For all the people talking about how she's tanked the stock...She came in while the stock was at 15 and a half, and today the stock is at 36 and a half. OK, big surprise, she wasn't able to turn the company into the next Google. But the market cap has climbed from $14 Billion to $34 Billion under watch. I don't think you can call her an abject failure. An abject failure would be losing her shareholders value. Like maybe she sold Yahoo's investments that are the core of its modern business, in order to fund one of her relatively minor pet projects that didn't work out.

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  18. A CEO vs... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

    She was hired to be the CEO. And CEOs severance packages, in big companies, are usually within that range. This is the job to have in the industry, where incompetence is not seen as a failure, but rather a "failed try". Not so many jobs carry that amount of "tolerance", but yet there are some: football/base ball/tennis/.... player who doesn't perform as expected (and yet is (pre) paid a lot), an expensive actor/actress who plays badly, ...

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