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Gas Delivery Startups Want to Fill Up Your Car Anywhere, But It Might Not Be Legal (bloomberg.com)
Eric Newcomer, reporting for Bloomberg: A new crop of startups are trying to make gas stations obsolete. Tap an app, and they'll bring the gas to you, filling up your car while you're at work or at home. Filld, WeFuel, Yoshi, Purple and Booster Fuels have started operating in a few cities including San Francisco, Los Angeles, Palo Alto, Nashville, Tennessee, and Atlanta, Georgia. But officials in some of those cities say that driving around in a pickup truck with hundreds of gallons of gasoline might not be safe. "It is not permitted," said Lt. Jonathan Baxter, a spokesman for the San Francisco fire department, adding that if San Francisco residents see any companies fueling vehicles in the city, they should call the fire department. "We haven't talked to them. I don't know about that. It's news to me," said Nick Alexander, co-founder of Yoshi. "You can never ask for permission because no one will give it," said Chris Aubuchon, the chief executive officer at Filld. The Los Angeles Fire Department said it's drafting a policy around gasoline delivery. "Our current fire code does not allow this process; however, we are exploring a way this could be allowed with some restrictions," said Capt. Daniel Curry, a spokesman for the city's fire department.
Gas stations have environmental controls to keep fuel from leaking into the environment...
When I read the headline, I immediately thought of this:
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What they say:
"Our current fire code does not allow this process; however, we are exploring a way this could be allowed with some restrictions," said Capt. Daniel Curry
What they mean:
"We will soon let you know how much we are going to tax your new business opportunity!"
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I'm going to start a competitor named FillDD. The two D's are for a "double-dose of pumpin".
They don't typically whip out a hose and start pouring out pints, though.
with pumping gasoline is the spillage. In the Netherlands, all gas stations are required to have non-porous paving to make sure spills don't end up in the ground.
The other problem is that it's inefficient. Instead of people filling up at the next station they come across, some guy has to drive everywhere to fill up one customer at a time.
A new crop of startups are trying to make gas stations obsolete.
Where then are they getting the gas from? If we're talking about pickup truck beds full of (large containers of) gasoline I would expect they are still filling them at gas stations. They are then just up-charging the people who are paying for it for their own cars. The gas stations are still selling just as much gas, and in fact might do better as this process could involve more consumption.
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Look, OBVIOUSLY it is possible to get permission to legally drive a vehicle around full of gasoline. That's how the gasoline stations get their gasoline. They usually need special tested equipment designed to carry hazardous liquids - and the license to drive said equipment.
It is also obviously legal to fill a car with gasoline at places other than gas stations - people that run out of gas do this all the time using a one gallon container.
There would have to be a specific law prohibiting this particular job.
Also this business is a STUPID idea. There is always a premium for delivery and for the premium for a delivery of a hazardous liquid should be so high as to make this a financially stupid idea. Gasoline stations are plentiful, on roads, normal people never run out of it and don't need the minor time savings of delivery.
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"You can never ask for permission because no one will give it"
Translation:
"We are fully aware that our business model violates multiple safety and environmental laws. But we're an app, so fuck you."
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Do you realy want to be in a uber that is also a tanker truck?
Granted, I can see startups trying to put a plastic water tank on the back of a pickup and call it the same thing
Ding! From TFA:
Purple has a fleet of about 80 cars driving around Los Angeles, San Diego, Orange County and Seattle with up to a half-dozen five-gallon gas canisters in the trunk.
Are they fucking insane?
I think the fire department's problem is with Nick and Chris sending their cousin out in an old pickup truck loaded with 40 5 gallon cans in the bed and e-mailing them delivery instructions which they read on their cellphone while driving this firebomb around the city. I doubt there are any ordinances (yet) against carrying an excess of gasoline containers in a vehicle, but the thing they are drafting may come up with some kind of language attempting to describe how to transport additional gasoline safely.
In reality, 2nd gas tanks used to be an option on a lot of pickup trucks, and I can't imagine the department being to say anything at all about buying one of these trucks and driving it around. Now, dispensing gasoline from one vehicle to another in a non-filling station environment, that's an ordinance waiting to happen.
Come to think of it, I know more than one guy with a diesel tank on the back of his pickup truck that he uses to deliver fuel to construction equipment in the field. Diesel is quite a bit safer - and maybe this is the market opportunity, sell mobile diesel to all those Jetta owners out there, after all - diesel is harder to find in the first place.
much does it cost to get drivers with an CDL with hazmat and full insurance vs some uber where they don't even have the CDL and the insurance has time gaps.
driving around in a pickup truck with hundreds of gallons of gasoline might not be safe.
Look im checking my blindspots at every intersection and im using my goddamn blinkers at every single turn so I dont understand what more you want from me. Christ. you sound just like my wife when I was shoveling cheap chinese fireworks into the passenger seat. It was a good idea 5 redbulls ago, and its gonna be an even better idea for an internet app 5 more from now.
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The only reason this craziness exists is because some entitled twit sees his workmate with a Telsa charging his car at work and thinks, "hey, why should he get to charge his car at work and not me?".
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Tow trucks do this all the time. In some places, the police do, too. It's hard to come up with a clear reason why one truck carrying twenty properly filled, properly made gas cans is that much less safe than twenty trucks carrying one.
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We already have a national disaster waiting to happen.
Millions of untrained laypersons fuel their vehicles, and often other people's vehicles, unlicensed and unregulated.
Hate to disrupt your bubble, but that shit is all regulated to hell. It's on specific property, and those facilities have to get inspected frequently.
So yeah, it is regulated... already.
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They are planning to increase profits by also providing delivery of fertilizer and det cord.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's got to be the stupidest time to set up a gas delivery business. Just as gas powered cars are going to be obsoleted. OK, they're not obsolete yet - but it's hardly a new business model that has a future.
It's hard to come up with a clear reason why one truck carrying twenty properly filled, properly made gas cans is that much less safe than twenty trucks carrying one.
It's not hard at all to me. It's simple enough.
1. Even properly made gas cans can leak.
2. The probability of a gas can leaking increases the more of them you have
3. Gasoline ignites only at specific stoichiometric ratios
4. A single gas can is unlikely to reach the stoichiometric ratio, much less over a significant area
5. Multiple gas cans in a single vehicle are much more likely to reach that ratio, and over a larger area as well.
6. A 10 gallon fuel fire is bad enough, a 200 gallon fuel fire is quite another. Note, I'm not including the vehicle's fuel tank because, on consideration, it's generally pretty well protected.
7. In an auto accident, vehicle gas tanks are generally not penetrated or ignited.
8. All bets are off for canisters stacked up in the back of a pickup. See #6 about having drastically more gasoline spread around.
Honestly enough, plenty of farmers and such have permanently mounted fuel tanks in the back of their truck, with a pump even. Go with that.
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Actually, this business model makes a lot more sense in an environment without a gas station on every corner -- people are much likely to pay a delivery fee for something they can't pick up conveniently themselves. If anything, I'd say they're jumping the gun on gasoline being a niche product.
For anyone who doesn't quite understand the insanity of keeping gas cans in your trunk, gasoline vapor is significantly denser than air, and will collect in low places, including the trunk of your car, and by extension the cabin as well, as it is usually not completely closed off.
That's why you should never fill a gas can while it's sitting in your trunk or in the bed of a pickup. Always put it on the ground when filling it, then place it back in the trunk or bed, to prevent spilled vapor from collecting.
People are generally way too thoughtless in their handling of gasoline. Usually there isn't a problem with just one gas can, even in the trunk of a car. But when you have 20 or 30 gallons divided over multiple cans, that's a whole new situation. Do you really thing the average Independent Fuel Delivery Contractor is going to put every individual can on the ground and fill them up separately? Hell no.
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