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John Kasich To Drop Out, Leaving Trump as GOP Nominee (vox.com)
Multiple outlets are reporting that Ohio Gov. John Kasich plans to suspend his run to be the GOP presidential nominee. The move, if happens, would make Donald Trump the presumptive nominee for the GOP. The report comes hours after Kasich abruptly cancelled a planned press conference (could be paywalled; alternate source) in Virginia on Wednesday morning. LA Times reports: Kasich, the Ohio governor, had pledged to continue campaigning as a Trump alternative who could deny the billionaire needed delegates. But on Wednesday, he canceled a news conference in Washington and planned an announcement for later in the day in Columbus, Ohio, to drop out. Vox has more details.
Provided the DoJ doesn't indict her for mishandling of classified information.
*fingers crossed*
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Cruz dropping out handed the race over.
Kasich could have won every delegate from Tuesday night to convention time and still would not have caught Trump. How he could have gotten any at all much less all of them, when he has no cash and won only his home state is a great question. Other than symbolically not causing a ruckus up to the convention, it means nothing to the race.
And to linking to an alternate source. Kudos to the editors.
Provided the DoJ doesn't indict her for mishandling of classified information.
Don't count on it. These manufactured scandals never go anywhere.
I guess the question now is whether Trump will be willing to tone down the rhetoric, make some comprehensive, real-world arguments on important stuff like foreign policy, and basically be more presidential. Also, he'll have to pick an amazing VP candidate and show himself as open to selecting people who can fill in the experience gaps he has.
Like her or hate her, Clinton was the Secretary of State. Anyone actually watching the political side of this (debates, etc.) and not voting based on stump speeches and commercials can see there's an experience gap, and I think that'll be clear in a general election debate unless Trump does some serious studying between now and then.
All in all, a fun political season is coming. You've got the establishment that wants things as-is, angry workers who have no jobs because they've been offshored, outsourced or automated, angry conservatives who want smaller government, and angry liberals from the Sanders camp who want more. Personally, I'd be amazed if Trump could pull off a trade war with the rest of the world. Coming from the Rust Belt, it would be great to see factories running 3 shifts of thousands of workers again, but I doubt that can be pulled off.
He and Bernie Sanders are the only ones even CLAIMING they'll take on H1-B's, outsourcing, and big business. Is it likely that Trump will actually follow through with this? Nope. Is it likely that he's going to represent the same interests of his rich business friends just like ever other politician? Yep.
But is there any other choice that's even POSSIBLY going to stand up for the little guy? Not on the Republican side.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
How is this news for nerds, stuff that matters?
Oh, maybe because Trump is a conservative populist who would think it a good idea to ban strong encryption, abolish net neutrality, increase the surveillance powers of the security services, ... the list goes on. I'm also pretty sure that a large portion of the US ner community is either hispanic, female or both and we all know what Trump's opinion is of people belonging to those groups.
You're our only hope.
Too bad his chances at this point aren't much bigger than a womp rat.
I hope they do so that Bernie Sanders would run against Trump. Both are party outsiders and I'd be more satisfied with either of them than anyone else either party put forward this election cycle.
But they're not going to do anything to Hillary. Not because she's not guilty or there isn't a case to be made, but because having that on her gives them control over her. She's just a puppet for the wealthy and powerful.
Im a liberal/progressive/whateverTheyCallMeThisWeek. Im reluctantly supporting Hillary. Bernie "wins" only if he denies certain Democratic voters as illegitimate. The fact that the groups he needs to deny tend to be black should make you cringe a bit. Besides, his platform is too unclear, and depends on "and then a miracle happens" a bit too much (yeah, i'll get flamed for all that, but it's my opinion). Hillary doesn't promise the moon, but she's more likely to get her agenda done.
But Trump - no one really figured he'd get here. Im a bit wary. What people haven't realized up to now is it's not about Trump it's about the voters. The fact that we have a large number of people voting for Trump with no experience and no real plan (I bet Trump would hire a dude off the street with no experience but yuuuge hair for CEO in a second) just because of anger. It's making me rethink our electorate. Could he win? I thought there's no chance he'd be here. I thought that once we got away from Trump and the 16 dwarves where Trump dominated the headlines we'd back away from Trump. But no, he was strengthened once he got close. I really wonder.
I agree with don't count on it.
But the only person who "manufactured" this scandal is one Hillary Rodham Clinton.
The reason that she isn't being indicted isn't because she's some innocent little angel, but because she has the leverage over the current administration and the so-called "independent" attorney general has given her a get-out-of-indictment free card.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
ANATOMY OF FASCISM - Robert Paxton
"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
The Five Stages of Fascism
1) Intellectual exploration, where disillusionment with popular democracy manifests itself in discussions of lost national vigor
2) Rooting, where a fascist movement, aided by political deadlock and polarization, becomes a player on the national stage
3) Arrival to power, where conservatives seeking to control rising leftist opposition invite the movement to share power
4) Exercise of power, where the movement and its charismatic leader control the state in balance with state institutions such as the police and traditional elites such as the clergy and business magnates.
5) Radicalization or entropy, where the state either becomes increasingly radical, as did Nazi Germany, or slips into traditional authoritarian rule, as did Fascist Italy.
You can read the full thing here
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Can Don still pick Hillary as his running mate?
No. The P and the VP cannot be from the same state. They are both New Yorkers.
It's rather ironic that I am currently reading Turtledove's Southern Victory series and I am currently on the book Blood and Iron that deals in part on the rise of the Freedom Party in the South. I feel almost like I am watching a true life version of the Freedom Party rise to power with Trump. A populist candidate spewing hatred in order to rile up an angry, frustrated, and poorly educated support base tends to not end very well.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
How is this news for nerds, stuff that matters?
Short answer: It isn't.
Whipslash, et. al, I like a lot of what you've done with the site since you took over, but can we please have less political news that is not directly connected to technology? If I wanted political discussions, I'd go elsewhere. I come to /. for "news for nerds," and too much that isn't tech news is highly likely to drive away readers.
I second those who don't want to see /. go any further toward being a Reddit clone.
How is this news for nerds, stuff that matters?
Try answering these questions:
Is news for nerds? Yes/No.
Is it stuff that matters? Yes/No.
If you get one or more yes's then the condition is satisfied.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
But they're not going to do anything to Hillary. Not because she's not guilty or there isn't a case to be made, but because having that on her gives them control over her. She's just a puppet for the wealthy and powerful.
Probably more because if they indicted everyone who ever mishandled classified information they'd put most of the govt and lots of private contractors in jail. They only indict when someone either:
* Tries to give classified data to someone they shouldn't
* Mishandles data so badly that someone else gets it
Clinton did neither. And this is all beside the point that most of the "classified data" was classified after it went through her server, or was classified by the State Dept so the Secretary of State can tell anyone she wants.
I'm always amazed how many people fall for the manufactured Clinton scandals from the right. "Oh, a Clinton is accused of something terrible. The last 10 turned out to be faked or overblown, but sure, I'll panic over this one too, because the right-wing is known for careful application of facts and logic!" Don't fall for these, please, or the next eight years will be terribly stressful for you.
Hillary is a terrible candidate. She just lost another primary state. Bernie supporters hate her and after the DNC finally squeezes him out they'll hate her even more.
The thing about Trump is that your conventional wisdom doesn't work. He fights. He uses the ammo provided and makes more. And there is a huge supply of ammo to use against Hillary. By November "Crooked Hillary" will be a meme your children will know. Every turd the Clintons have ever made will be top-of-mind with every voter in the US. Bernie tried to expose her over the transcripts. Trump will pummel her daily for that, the email crimes, Bengazi, cattlegate, NAFTA, gender pandering, her establishment donors, the Clinton Foundation foreign slush fund and every other slimy aspect of her history and campaign, and he will make it stick. This is the guy that made Obama cough up a birth certificate.
Every coughing fit punctuated campaign event Clinton choreographs will see Trump fill three stadiums with rabid supporters. By November Hillary will be a quivering mass of regret.
Email addresses on servers they did not control. The difference, which people like yourself want to minimize is that it was HER server (not AOL, Not Hotmail, not Yahoo!, and not Google. It was her private email server. And it was clearly designed to get around the Open Records requirements that were passed because of Republican versions of private email addresses that happened previously.
And, you're functionally saying "Two wrongs make it okay", rather than addressing the real concerns.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
I just hope Trump doesn't now announce Cruz or Fiorina as his running mate.
Seriously, picture the old Uncle Sam character — wearing tall head, the blue jacket and striped pants. Now try to imagine other contenders — from both major parties — in the outfit.
Trump is the only one, who can possibly fit.
So...Trump is a fictional caricature whose sole purpose is to appeal to people on an emotional level to earn their support and get money from them?
*Looks at Trump's campaign to date*
Yep, sounds about right actually
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
I don't fully buy that argument though as if Trump can't beat Hillary, then none of the Republican nominees could beat Hillary.
The Republican party hates, hates, hates Hillary Clinton with a passion to the point that you'd think she was a black Muslim illegal immigrant performing abortions with the guns she just got done taking away from everyone. Some Republicans might not like Trump (or whatever other candidate might have been the nominee) but they will still show up to vote against Hillary because their dislike is strong enough.
Some of the earlier candidates might have been able to have better mainstream appeal than Trump to lock up additional independent or undecided votes, but Trump is probably closer to the center on average than any of the other candidates, especially if you look at his historical stances. But neither Cruz or Kasich were going to be able to sway voters on the other side as in my opinion they typically had all of Trump's downsides and none of the upsides.
I don't know if he'll win or not and I'm voting third party as usual, but I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled it off. Hillary is all but officially the nominee, but she hasn't locked it down yet and a lot of Sanders voters despise her. The Politics subreddit looked like some kind of right-wing site from all of the anti-Hillary posts or submissions, but it was almost entirely the Bernie Sanders supporters that were doing it. The longer that drags out, the weaker it makes Hillary in the general election and means she ends up spending money in the primary that she won't have in the general election.
My guess is that even if Trump would generally be okay with a Clinton presidency or even endorse her over the Republican candidate if he weren't running himself, that he's the kind of egotistical person who would throw Clinton under the bus just because he'd rather win himself. It's a weird election cycle for sure though.
In what way is bernie sanders denying black voters as illegitimate? I'm not even quite sure what that means.
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
Yeah, how did that impeachment of Bill Clinton for lying to congress about a blow job work out for you, anti-Clinton partisans?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
government officials form both parties have used private email addresses
But have they deliberately and willfully had markings stripped from classified information and transmitted it over public networks?
there is no upside for either side to drag this into court
So you're saying it's only illegal if you or I do it, but if you're high enough in the government it suddenly becomes legal?
Good to know.
Go on, citizen, stamp the vote card. R or D, your choice.
what if no one get's 270?
That's an extremely unlikely scenario based on the 2016 electoral map, which is identical to 2012 and 2008. Hillary needs 28 electoral votes to win. Trump will need 168 electoral votes to win.
And here's the underlying math. If Clinton wins the 19 states (and D.C.) that every Democratic nominee has won from 1992 to 2012, she has 242 electoral votes. Add Florida's 29 and you get 271. Game over.
The Republican map — whether with Trump, Cruz or the ideal Republican nominee (Paul Ryan?) as the standard-bearer — is decidedly less friendly. There are 13 states that have gone for the GOP presidential nominee in each of the last six elections. But they only total 102 electorate votes. That means the eventual nominee has to find, at least, 168 more electoral votes to get to 270. Which is a hell of a lot harder than finding 28 electoral votes.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/02/republicans-have-a-massive-electoral-map-problem-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-donald-trump/
Bernie supporters don't "hate" Hillary, we just think Bernie is a better choice. I voted for Bernie in our state caucus (Hillary and Bernie supporters got along very well there, thank you), now I will vote for Hillary in the general election because I have accepted the inevitable -- barring a death before November 8th, it is going to be Clinton vs. Trump in the general election and Clinton is going to win. The only surprise now will be who they choose as running mates. And the real payoff will be when Democrats regain the majority in the Senate, and Hillary submits her far-left nominee for the SCOTUS. I'd just love to see the look on McConnell's face when that happens!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Please be courteous and turn the lights out.
You don't understand. A pardon is irrelevant for the campaign. It could even be worse than an indictment. It's not about whether she goes to jail or not, it's whether she can get elected with her credibility broken by an indictment which would then have been nullified by a pardon, without answering the actual charge.
And it would prove the charge that she will have gotten away with something that nobody who worked for her could have gotten away with, just because she is who she is. A pardon would be as close to political suicide as she could get without actually going to jail.
Her lawyer had a copy of the emails on a thumb drive, and I don't seem to recall hearing news that he was cleared to have access to the emails.
It continues to amaze me that people keep repeating this easily proven false talking point. The date/time something is stamped 'classified' is irrelevant! Plenty of content was 'born' classified or so obvious that it was regardless of marking. Should we also ignore her asking a subordinate to strip the classified header from a document for sending?
There were things so sensitive in her email that the DoJ Inspector General investigating initially lacked a high enough clearance to read some of the content.
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It would be hard to levy charges when there were two separate oversight processes, one in State one in the White House, based on an explicit memorandum specifying the ethical rubric to which Clinton signed.
If only she thinks it's okay, that's questionable, but not evidence of wrongdoing. If she thinks it's okay and an appointed overseer thinks it's okay, that's covered. If she thinks it's okay and an appointed overseer thinks it's okay and a second appointed overseer also thinks it's okay, that's responsible management of conflicts of interest.
I bet you read an article in International Business Times. Go read it again and pay attention to the part where they talked about these multiple layers of oversight.
It is crazy I know, but would you put it past Trump?
You don't seem to know how pardons work. She doesn't have to plead guilty; Nixon for example was pardoned without ever having been charged. Accepting a pardon, however, is an admission of guilt. There would be no faster way to lose an election. Republicans would be calling for her head on a plate before the ink on the signature dried.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
So...the condition is not satisfied then.
It's definitely not news for nerds. Is it stuff that matters? I think that depends up on whether or not you believe there is any real difference in the candidates. Politics is theater for the masses. Its meant to keep us divided over petty, stupid, and unimportant things; while everything that is not accurately described that way is settled behind closed doors. As a registered voter for the last 25+ years, and someone who makes less than $5 million/year, I have yet to see a presidential nominee I felt really represented my interests.
So it definitely doesn't matter to me anyway. Of course, you may feel differently. But to that point I would argue that many, many things do matter. Slashdot cannot be the forum for all of them. I think Slashdot's greatest strength is the community of people working in the fields of science and technology that bring their opinion to bear on those same subjects.
Every asshole on the planet has an opinion on politics (including this asshole), and they are generally not working in the field of politics, so that opinion actually means very little.
I'm sorry, but your opinion seems to be wrong.
Man, y'all been trying to pin some nefarious shit on her since she was back in Little Rock, and all it's ever done is make you look silly. You've bounced around from Whitewater to the assassination of Vince Foster right up to Benghazi and now ServerGate. There have been more congressional investigations into Hillary Clinton than any human being in history. I mean, seventy-two weeks worth of investigations into Benghazi alone, with millions flushed down the crapper. All to prove...nothing.
Now I have no interest in seeing Hillary Clinton become president, but got damn she's made your ilk look like Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff onto a wood chipper for decades now. You might want to think about getting a hobby.
You are welcome on my lawn.
She won't need a pardon.
The office that has the final decision on what state department information is or is not classified is the secretary of state who, at the time, was Hillary Rodham Clinton. I know this almost sounds like Nixon's reasoning 'If the President does it, it's not illegal', but not quite.
As long as Hillary didn't send anything that could be truly treasonous (like sending terrorists secret pass codes to sneak into government facilities and blow them up), she can just declare that the information in her emails was not classified at the time she sent it, and 'poof' it's not classified. Since the executive branch has consolidated so much power to itself and its cabinets throughout the 20th and 21st century, there is not really much that congress can do about this except whine and pout.
The only solution is for we, the people, to re-allign the power balance between the branches by electing congressmen and senators who will do their jobs and lead the country. The houses of congress should be our governmental leadership. The president should really be considered more like the head butler, the chief public servant.
We have made our presidents into de facto kings, when we should be treating them as hired help. Respect them, treat them well, but remember that they work for us.
Kasich was the least insane of the GOP candidates. But insane just the same.
You really have a problem when a political party cannot produce one, just one viable candidate.
I think what you meant is that they would rather vote for a candidate that is apt to destroy the country rather than get over irrational hatred they've harboured since Bill was in office. You can hate all you want, but rationally it's hard to call Hillary anything other than a Status Quo candidate. The going really isn't that hard for the political and corporate elite right now.
I have no doubt that the "we just want to watch the world burn" contingent has a candidate, and his name is Trump.
Some don't, but others do. As someone who supports Sanders because of the anti-Wall-Street, anti-corruption, and anti-DC-establishment facets of his platform, Hillary has nothing to offer me (except in cases where she's flip-flopped in response to Sanders, such as for the TPP -- but I don't believe for a second that she'll remain opposed to the TPP after the election).
I don't think I could vote for Trump, but going for Jill Stein (or maybe even the Libertarian candidate), or writing in Sanders, is a distinct possibility.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
Fun fact: Hilary is pro-net neutrality.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
"He'll sit here, and he'll say, 'Do this! Do that!' And nothing will happen. Poor Donald - it won't be a bit like his corporation. He'll find it very frustrating."
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It's hard to keep taking these claims seriously when panel after panel of people who REALLY want to hang Hillary for the slightest infraction can't find a single thing to even complain about.
I have a lot of problems with the Clintons, but the constant witch hunt is just crazy.
not voting for trump and getting hillary, or voting for trump and getting trump?
lose != loose
In addition, government officials form both parties have used private email addresses as well
There is no comparison. Nobody at her level of authority (fourth in line to the presidency, the nation's top diplomat, someone who handled highly classified material as a regular part of her job) has previously completely skipped using secure email services for official business, electing instead to handle ALL of her official email through a personal account served up on a computer in her residential home. Really, try to find another example of that. Then take into account the fact that inspectors general from multiple intelligence agencies have said that she trafficked in classified (even way-above-top-secret) material on her unsecured home computer ... and never turned over ANY of it as she left office, as required to. And when hounded by FOIA requests and subpoenas - which she dragged out for YEARS - she deleted tens of thousands of those messages before grudgingly handing over some of it as printed-out hardcopies stripped of all header information.
Cite another top government official who has even approached that level of deliberately hiding ALL OF THEIR OFFICIAL CORRESPONDENCE from scrutiny.
there is no upside for either side to drag this into court.
Sure there is. People who worked under her were subject to losing their careers and even their liberty for doing FAR less than she did. The "upside" to indicting her is to demonstrate that despite the long history of her and her husband's abuses of power, she's not above the law.
Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
You mean, of course, Bill Clintons acts of blatant sexual harassment at the workplace, in a fashion and way that any feminist, anywhere, before Clinton's impeachment trial, would have identified as such?
The power dynamics behind Clinton's serial instances of 'blow jobs' and other sexual favors granted to him make them flashing red examples of sexual harassment.
But as long as the dude engaging in said practices is Powerful Enough (note the incredible irony in this) the old-line Feminists (who sold out to the political machine to keep their spot of power) say it was 'Okay'.
If nothing else has turned off the current generations of young people to old-line 'Feminism' it's the crud that forms around anything 'Clinton' if you observe it long enough.
Indeed. But also entirely predictable - look at how things have turned out for recent, more typical GOP candidates. McCain and Romney were exactly the sorts of candidates we might expect the GOP to field, and they ended up not only losing, but being demonized by their own party. If you were the a reasonable, conservative leaning guy with some relevant experience - the next McCain or Romney - why would you step up right now? 2/3rds of your own party hates you because you won't accept all of their conservative purity vows - and you're still too far right to have any hope in a general.
So of course they aren't getting good candidates.
Let's not stir that bag of worms...
She could classify or declassify information that was initialized by the State Department but that's not what this whole mess is about.
There are relatively few State Dept. emails that the IGs sited as being a problem, there are however several dozens, if not hundreds, of emails from outside intelligence agencies as well as foreign governments which have been identified as being classified at various levels. As SoS she had no authority to modify the classifications of those emails.
The State Dept. itself has spent the last couple of years begging other agencies to change the classifications of data contained in her emails and not because they believed it was truly non-classified but purely out of a need to ass cover (both hers and theirs). It's the same reason they've been brought to task repeatedly by federal judges for dragging their feet and making blatantly false statements about how some data is irretrievable (which they later found could be retrieved by simply looking for it) or they simply don't have the ability to do something by court mandated deadlines (while at the same time doing complete reviews of former SoS emails in their 'spare' time).
It's the IRS all over again. "We lost all of Lois Lerner's emails and can't possibly retrieve them!!" Meanwhile years later it turns out they were just sitting on the back up server, exactly where they should be just no one bothered to look.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
Hillary is a terrible candidate. She just lost another primary state. Bernie supporters hate her and after the DNC finally squeezes him out they'll hate her even more.
The thing about Trump is that your conventional wisdom doesn't work. He fights. He uses the ammo provided and makes more. And there is a huge supply of ammo to use against Hillary. By November "Crooked Hillary" will be a meme your children will know. Every turd the Clintons have ever made will be top-of-mind with every voter in the US. Bernie tried to expose her over the transcripts. Trump will pummel her daily for that, the email crimes, Bengazi, cattlegate, NAFTA, gender pandering, her establishment donors, the Clinton Foundation foreign slush fund and every other slimy aspect of her history and campaign, and he will make it stick. This is the guy that made Obama cough up a birth certificate.
Every coughing fit punctuated campaign event Clinton choreographs will see Trump fill three stadiums with rabid supporters. By November Hillary will be a quivering mass of regret.
The thing is that Trump needs more than "three stadiums" worth of supporters, he needs half the electorate.
Trump was invulnerable to primary attacks for the same reason as Sanders, he represented the base.
Clinton couldn't attack Sanders on policy because she'd have to attack from the right, that's one of the reasons why Sanders sailed through the primary so unscathed.
Trump had the same benefit. While he differed on policy the Republican party is built on identity more than policy. Republican's could attack Trump where he was vulnerable because that would involve making arguments in favour of equality and against crony capitalism, attacks that come from the left.
Come to the general election and the Democrats are capable of hitting Trump where it hurts, it won't hurt his base, but he's going to have a lot of trouble with everyone else.
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there is no upside for either side to drag this into court
So you're saying it's only illegal if you or I do it, but if you're high enough in the government it suddenly becomes legal?
Good to know.
No, just that both political parties will make a cold calculated political decision on the benefits independent of the legality or illegality of the act. Right or wrong ha nothing to do with it, it's about winning and losing.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
The constitution has this little clause called ex post facto. Look it up.
no, what he said was that the states Hillary won were primarily red states that she (and he) would not win in the general election. I think you need to work on your comprehension a bit
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
The "democrats and republicans are the same" answer has always been stupid, as they are so many issues where they are very different. But now we're talking about Trump vs a democrat, if you can't see the difference, I suggest returning your brain, because it is defective.
The us election not only matters for everyone in the us, it also matter for the whole world. And if Trump is elected, the world is fucked.
Kenneth Starr exonerated the Clintons for "Travelgate" and "Filegate" (waiting until after the 1998 election to do so). Yet I bet we will hear all about them, as if nothing was ever resolved.
Republicans still harp on Hillery's cattle futures windfall (savvy investor enrages Republicans)
Whitewater was a bust, but we will hear all about Clinton's pardons of some people convicted in that investigation (his alternative was to let friends remain in jail for stuff that would have never been prosecuted but for the chance of impeaching him).
And now we can add Benghazi victims to the Clinton Death List that our elderly acquaintances forward around.
I'd prefer Trump get elected for the sole reason that the House and Senate might finally start to put the brakes on the imperial Presidency that has been in effect for far too long (through both D and R administrations).
I'm not too worried about the big stuff because almost every plan of Trumps has no real basis in reality so would never be able to get the backing of real legislators. The big problem is with all the little stuff the legislative branch has pretty much just conceded to the Executive. All the myriad of EO's and Presidential Memorandum which effectively create laws without any actual legislation passing. You can guarantee that once Trump has access to that type of power he'll try to use it and at some point he'll go too far and finally the D's and R's will unite to reign in those extra-legislative slight of hand tricks.
It might be a painful 4 years (or shorter with impeachment) but it might result in a stronger country on the other side.
Either way this is going to be a terrible election.
Of course that's just my opinion...... you could be wrong!
Her lawyer had a copy of the emails on a thumb drive, and I don't seem to recall hearing news that he was cleared to have access to the emails.
If I understand you correctly, the most clearly illegal thing she did was to give a backup copy of stuff to her lawyer. My god, she's worse than Aldrich Ames and Benedict Arnold combined!!!!!!!
This would be why non-idealogues don't take this case seriously. People who intentionally leak the names of current spies to enemy countries are traitors and should be heavily punished. People who give a thumb drive full of 2 year old schedules of no-longer-secret diplomatic trips to their lawyer should probably not be treated the same way.
It continues to amaze me that people keep repeating this easily proven false talking point. The date/time something is stamped 'classified' is irrelevant!
So by your logic, Obama can decide that something Trump tweeted last week is classified, so clearly Trump should be put in jail. Sigh.
There are so many valid reasons to dislike Hillary; why do you have to make shit up to hate her? I rather dislike Paul Ryan, but to convince you that he is bad I don't concoct elaborate treason fantasies. I may point out the elaborate fantasies he puts into his budgets, but I don't claim he is secretly trying to destroy America.
False, so much so that only people still making that claim are either members of the Clinton campaign or it's most braindead supporters.
Sounds almost like something we've (falsely) heard from Hillary herself...
Any chance you are one of the paid Clinton shills who have been sent out to 'correct' the record?
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Not being a lawyer I'm not going to go into which offenses committed by her is the 'most clearly illegal', but it does represent another consciously negligent act for which she can be charged.
Your attempts at mockery say otherwise.
Don't you ever get tired of "But... Bush!!!" ?
Except there was a whole bunch of classified info in there, which is why the FBI came asking for the thumb drive later and why so many emails released have had some level of redaction.
That's a mighty big stretch, doubly so when Trump hasn't been authorized to receive classified information.
Exactly what have I made up?
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We've known since at least the 1700s that first-past-the-post plurality voting is a totally broken system. It's irresponsible to conduct any election with more than two alternatives in this fashion.
In many places, especially early in the election cycle, Trump would have lost any single head-to-head matchup. But his opponents were always split, and plurality voting is tremendously vulnerable to this kind of problem.
Process matters. If our elections were conducted using a Condorcet method like Ranked Pairs, Maximum Majority, or Schulze, we would have had less irrationality and extremism from both parties throughout the years, and the existing parties would not have become so entrenched.
Here's a popular-audience explanation by a couple of Nobel winners.
Does your underlying math say that a large percentage of young and old Bernie supporters have continually said they hate Hillary and will stay home or vote for Trump??
Nope. I'm expecting Republican voters to stay home if their favorite candidate isn't in running. Democratic voters will come out in droves as they always do during a presidential year.
Cruz and Kasich (and the others while they were still in) were playing iterative rounds of something resembling the Prisoner's Dilemma. Choosing to stay in the race increased their odds of being the nominee by a large factor _if_ there was a contested convention. However staying in the race, and thus dividing the non-Trump votes, also increased the odds that Trump would win outright and there _wouldn't_ be a contested convention.
If one of them had decided to drop out much earlier the other one might have been able to stop Trump from getting enough votes to lock in the nomination and steal it away from him at the convention. (This makes it slightly different from regular Prisoner's Dilemma in that cooperating involves the two players choosing different actions.) Given that going by the number of delegates the one who probably should have dropped out early was Kasich, it's kind of pathetic that he drug his heels long enough to quit _right_ after Cruz. Good job you two! Your arrogant electoral mutual suicide pact has all but guaranteed a Trump nomination!
(I wonder if there were any backroom negotiations going on to try and convince Kasich to drop out in exchange for a vice presidential slot? That's not something that's usually done but this was a pretty unusual case.)
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Donald Trump is going to crush Crooked Hilary. Beyond the criminal conduct related to State Dept. e-mails, she has such a record of corruption, accepting bribes from the banking industry, multinational corporations, war profiteers, foreign governments like Saudi Arabia, etc.. She is about as disgusting, gross,and corrupt as possibly imaginable. She does nothing but lie methodically every time she speaks. There is not an honest bone in her body.
This race is about truth vs. the oligarchy and its lies. Donald Trump is a revolution the likes of which has not happened in American politics for over a century.
My only question is, should I write in "Bernard Sanders" or "Bernie Sanders" on my ballot?
Reminds me of a jury panel I was on. We were all convinced the defendant was not guilty, except for one juror. He said "maybe he's technically not guilty of this crime, but he's probably guilty of something!"
And so there are tons of people out there that feel because Hillary has been accused of so many things that one of them at least has to be true.
"Every coughing fit punctuated campaign event Clinton choreographs will see Trump fill three stadiums with rabid supporters. By November Hillary will be a quivering mass of regret."
You might be right, but it'll never matter because no matter what he does to Hillary's reputation, the damage he's done to his own reputation amongst a majority of voters (females, latinos, muslims etc.) is worse than anything he can do to Hillary.
It doesn't matter how corrupt Hillary looks, an extremely corrupt and damaged Hillary is still always going to look far better to the majority of people (based on the simple math of demographics) than an authoritarian Trump that wants to lock up/deport/simply doesn't understand them and their families.
Trump is a one trick pony that has relied on stirring up the angry white males of the Republican Party to get his nomination. The problem is they're a minority in today's America and there's no real path he has left open to redeem himself with the demographics he requires to win. He'll never get the 1% of muslims on side, the 17% hispanics, and a massive proportion of the 50% of females because he relied on relentlessly attacking these groups to get his nomination, the problem is, these groups are a majority in the overall battle even if they were a minority in the Republic nomination battle.
Even if he tries to reach out and make amends to these communities he'll lose the people he stirred up with anger against these communities because they'll be disappointed to find he lied to them. He's created himself a losing proposition for the ultimate race - he played the short game and in doing so fucked himself for the long game. This is probably why he's gone bankrupt so many times - he's incapable of long term planning and can only ever win short term battles at the expense of losing the long term war.
You're just might be retarded. That's okay, I'll try to help you out - again. He's been a politician ON THE NATIONAL STAGE for ages. To call him a newbie is downright stupid. As for politics, well... I hate to pull the authority card but I'm willing to bet that I not only know far more than you but I'm far more involved than you - more so considering that I'm running, as in officially running and having turned in the required number of signatures, for an elected office at the State level.
In fact, you're really no longer worth the time or effort. I've tried really hard to correct you but stupidity and willful ignorance are not something I've the power to help with. You're dismissed. No, really, you're dismissed. Feel free to write some more gibberish if it makes you feel better but do keep in mind that this thread is now listed for posterity.
There's a line from a movie, not a good movie, but it sticks with me...
"You have been weighed, you have been measured, you have been found wanting."
Seriously, dismissed. You're free to go.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."