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History Buffs Discover Inaccuracies In Battlefield 1 Trailer (hothardware.com)
MojoKid shares an interesting article from Tom's Hardware. While the new Battlefield 1 trailer may be the most-liked trailer in the history of YouTube, it's also historically inaccurate, according to a popular YouTube channel about World War I. "Some of the scenes feature some unusual or experimental gear," reports Indy Neidell, the voice of the video series The Great War, "and some weapons are carried by soldiers from the other side."
Thousands of people joined the YouTube channel after the release of the game's new trailer, prompting this special video review of the historical accuracy of the Battlefield 1 trailer. "Some of the most spectacular moments in the trailer, such as the tanks bursting into trenches or giant, ominous zeppelins hovering, are actually historically accurate," reports Tom's Hardware, adding that the YouTube commentator "ultimately applauds Battlefield 1 for incorporating so many different elements of WWI. Many people often forget that much of WWI was fought through hand-to-hand combat or that battles took place throughout Eurasian landmass."
Thousands of people joined the YouTube channel after the release of the game's new trailer, prompting this special video review of the historical accuracy of the Battlefield 1 trailer. "Some of the most spectacular moments in the trailer, such as the tanks bursting into trenches or giant, ominous zeppelins hovering, are actually historically accurate," reports Tom's Hardware, adding that the YouTube commentator "ultimately applauds Battlefield 1 for incorporating so many different elements of WWI. Many people often forget that much of WWI was fought through hand-to-hand combat or that battles took place throughout Eurasian landmass."
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WWI and wars in general are not FUN and you don't re-spawn every time you die.
It's a fucking game people.
WWI was a lot of just sitting in the trenches and just kind of living in a world where you just can't lift your head above the trenchline. Just kinda slogging it and trying to survive, while living a miserable existence. For a game, rather boring.
Being also in a video games you are controlling characters not real people the strategy needed is different. In games NPC are disposable, there is no having to face the public and state that you sacrificed 50% of your unit, just to win the objective, where in real life it would just be to surrender or retreat. Because although you may win the battle, the losses would hinder the war more than what you would gain in the battle.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Yeah, in real life the Kaiser's spawn point was hundreds of feet away from where they put it on this board! Also, you had to wait until the Rapture to respawn!
Game starts. You are on a horse. Bullet blows your head off. Credits roll.
Americans don't like facts, remember?
I can't help it, when I read this, immediately this is what sprung to my mind.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It said AC is a faggot did it? Too bad it didn't have a link to 4chan for you.
I would think wigs would be more of a British thing.
Well, they could always include (if there is a single player campaign) the Lafayette Escadrile or the multiple American citizens who joined the British Army under assumed Canadian citizenship.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
They straight-up admitted it's not going to be historically accurate because it wouldn't be any fun.
And while there's a time and a place for that (it's important to know how much the real World War 1 sucked) this is a video game.
"and some weapons are carried by soldiers from the other side."
G-g-g-ghost!
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Popular works like All Quiet on the Western Front have made every depiction of World War I inevitably something like what the Battle of the Somme was, or the Battle of Caporetto; bitter, miserable wasting away in trenches while swathes of men are destroyed in fruitless attacks on extremely fortified positions. In reality, a lot of the war was high-paced maneuver warfare like the Franco-Prussian War and World War II, especially after tanks were introduced.
The fact that this post was downmodded is proof that the Italians did 9/11.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I have certainly done my fair share. Pretty much every movie ever made... nitpicking is fun... but completely misses the point.
I have not seen the trailer but I would say that the Battlefield series has never really been about accuracy as far as I can tell. In my opinion, the series has been more about using these time periods as a back drop than anything else.
Actually, I like the BF series for that reason. I don't normally like "hyper realistic" shooter games... they are too... well... realistic. I would like my blood and violence to come with a healthy dose of fiction.
One thing he got wrong, the tank crewman at 7:14 isn't the driver, its somebody starting the engine. Engines of the period had crank-starts. I don't know why British WW1 tanks had the crank handles on the inside, but I'd guess it was because the engines constantly broke down and had to be restarted, and you'd get shot if you had to go outside to do that.
In this picture https://upload.wikimedia.org/w... - you can just about see the crank handle, on the left of the window.
This is what the actual driving position of one of the things looks like.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/...
and you don't re-spawn every time you die.
Citation needed.
Hindus and Buddhists would disagree.
Indy didn't really 'tear apart' the game and at one point said "It's just a game so it's nice they're at least trying to bring to light the brutal nature of hand to hand combat" or something to that effect.
Everyone should watch The Great War series though it's awesome what they're doing. They're following the war week by week as we go through the 100th anniversary of it. It's really worth subscribing to.
If video games tried to be as historically accurate as possible then things would be a lot different and very few people would buy them. For instance in COD World at War, if that game had been historically accurate then in the levels where the Soviets are fighting through the streets of Berlin the models for the German soldiers would all have had to be young boys and old men. A World War I game would involve (if later in the war) hours of sitting in a muddy trench or marching around, enduring a artillery barrage every now and then, and going over the top into a shell blasted landscape covered in decomposing corpses.
Now that I think about it, a realistic war game would make one hell of a survival horror game. Imagine playing a German 6th Army soldier at Stalingrad. The game starts out bright and sunny, fighting and winning over open fields. But as you get closer to the city the weather gets colder, the days get darker, and the fighting harder. All of a sudden it is deep Russian winter, with long dark days and even darker,longer nights. Every day is a fight for survival, whether in battle with the Soviets or simply a fight to get enough rations to get you through the next day's fight and the next days retreat. All around men are dying in combat, giving up and laying down to die, or outright killing themselves. Christmas and New Years are somberly celebrated, many people realizing that these are the last 2 they will ever see. Thousands of men hoping and fighting to get a spot on one of the last few aircraft to fly out of Stalingrad. You fight to live on, scrounging around for a few scraps of bread or a couple rounds of ammunition. Finally, at the end of the game, you come to a choice: fight the Russians and die in combat, surrender along with the other survivors and die in captivity, or put a bullet in your own head.
Or, just make a game where you play a character who has the skills of a Chuck Norris/Rambo love child laying wastes to hordes of unnamed enemies while friendly characters with randomly generated names die all around you in spectacularly scripted explosions. Either one works.
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Designers say the new game explores the endless paperwork, routine patrolling a modern day soldier endures in photorealistic detail.
Indy Nidell needs more exposure for his WWI series.
And I thought I had too much free time!
Over at Mental Floss, Erik Sass is compiling a tremendous body of work on the topic.
http://mentalfloss.com/section...
As of today, there are 235 articles. I believe there are about 1 to 2 per week for several years. He is covering the events that lead to the War and occurred 100 years ago. Snippets from journals, letters, and old photographs help convey what it was really like then. It has been a very large eye-opener for me. As a history buff, I thought I knew a good deal about the topic...but there is so much more.
Just to be clear, I am not connected with Mental Floss or Mr. Sass in any fashion. Only a large fan of this series.
Installment #1 posted on November 4th, 2011
http://mentalfloss.com/article...
that the merkins are late to the party.
That sounds kind of judgemental. Lord knows the Great War caused enough bitterness to go around, but what would you have preferred? Something like this?
"Mr. President, members of Congress, citizens of America: The Archduke of Serbia has just been assassinated. I know that doesn't sound really relevant to us in America, and that we've got our own stuff going on. But since every third country in Europe now has a hyphen in the name, and the political situation in Europe is basically a house of cards soaked in nitroglycerin, the assassination has somehow triggered a massive, hemisphere-spanning war-to-end-all-wars, in which horrible new warmaking technologies have made atrocities a daily occurrence, and where everyone's motivations are murky and none of the parties are clearly either completely in the wrong or completely in the right."
"That sounds like something that we Americans should get involved in without delay! We'll immediately start drafting our nation's brightest and most promising youth, so they can return to us after some unspecified span of years, having witness countless things no man should see, as broken shells of their former selves!"
"Oh, and somebody flip a coin so we can decide which side we're on."
And probably should never have joined.
To say nothing of the actual title.
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