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Microsoft Adding More Ads To Windows 10 Start Menu (theverge.com)
Microsoft plans to double the number of promoted apps in Start menu. The change, which is scheduled to come with the upcoming Anniversary Update to Windows 10, will see the promoted apps count rise to 10. Tom Warren, writing for The Verge: Some promoted apps are pre-installed, but Microsoft notes that they can be fully uninstalled and any promoted items removed from the Start menu. Microsoft has not revealed exactly why the number of promoted apps is doubling, but it's likely that the company is using it as another method to attract developers to its Windows Store.
Microsoft notes that they can be fully uninstalled and any promoted items removed from the Start menu for now
There. Fixed that for ya. If there's anything Microsoft taught us lately, is that whatever they say or promise cannot be trusted.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Better yet, move to an OS that actually respects the user. Corporate controlled anything sucks to a large degree, hence my choosing to use Linux, especially the non-sponsored distros that do what they want. I'm not joking and this ads things isn't funny. People just laugh at this and write it off. What's next? A quota on allowed files and photos? Permission to scan said documents? A limit to how many people can have accounts on said machine? Microsoft has gotten worse, if this could be possible, not better.
If you're in IT and you choose to use Windows as your personal OS, you have no one to blame for your troubles. MS in effect, is forcing Windows 10 on people. Yes, you can opt out, but for the average person, it's not obvious. Ads on my OS? Really? Dystopian future much?
With stunts like that, pushing ads and apps on people and everything, why does it still cost something to get Windows 10?
Put the damn ISO on your website, unlock the damn activation/serial/whatever thing and you'll get more users.
You want a proprietary OS? You got it.. What you are looking at is the future of proprietary operating systems. Their purpose won't be to facilitate your work; that's only a nuisance. Their purpose will be to tag and track you, and then do whatever it takes to profit off that information.
...or does anyone else also think that ads have NO PLACE being in the freaking operating system?
"Microsoft plans to double the number of promoted apps in Start menu."
Well if they do this just 3 or 4 more times it'll be promoted apps all the way down.
No need for pesky files or personal stuff, it'll be nothing more than a dedicated ad platform.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Better yet, move to an OS that actually respects the user. Corporate controlled anything sucks to a large degree
You mean like Red Hat and systemd?
Why are people so up-in-arms over the ads in Windows 10, yet, they don't even blink an eye at the ads you get on the XBOX, even with a Gold subscription? It's the same shit - if you're paying for something, there should not be ads.
Ten years ago this would have appeared to be a post from The Onion. I can't believe this is really happening.
I dumped Windows 3.1 for Mac and later Linux, and I haven't really looked back since. Sure I bump into windows now and then, but I don't feel like I've missed out on anything.
But this takes the cake. How ridiculous can you get? They must have seen the writing on the wall and decided to go out with a big hurrah.
RH and Fedora are corporate. systemd is largely in place because of Red Hat and would have died on the vine without Red Hat. Gnome is Red Hat's default DE, so there you go as far as Gnome requiring systemd. BSD looks real good about now. I doubt that Theo de Raadt, for example, would be in any hurry to ever allow something like systemd in OpenBSD. Thankfully, he's also opposed to binary blobs, which are not in OpenBSD. Love him or hate him, but Theo is a damn good project manager.
Linux has become balkanized over the last few years, and systemd has widened the gap between those who truly value freedom and those who go along with corporate dictates. Honestly, the longer this plays out, the more I'm drawn to FreeBSD, Gentoo, and Slackware.
Am I reading this right? I can actually pay Microsoft to install applications on millions of PCs without the owners'... I mean "users'" permission?
Tell me again why ANYONE finds this acceptable?
And who will those deserters be?
Not corporate users, MS doesn't inflict this on paying customers.
Not new PC buyers, MS still has the OEMs wrapped around their finger.
Not the average user, they lack the acumen and bravery required to install an OS that's completely alien to them.
Who's left to embark on your grand exodus that will starve the beast?
Who here is old enough to remember the Columbia House Record Club? I figure they'll wait until 2017 to roll this out.
"Welcome to Windows 10! As mentioned in the EULA, you are now enrolled in the Windows 10 Premium App Experience! Each month, we'll pre-install exciting new applications from our partners. For your convenience, your Microsoft Store account will be automatically billed for the premium versions of these apps, so you can get maximum enjoyment from your software. You will then have 48 hours to try out each of your new apps. If you decide for whatever reason that an app just isn't for you, you can request a refund by typing in the link below and filling out the refund form. Please allow 4 to 6 weeks for refund processing. Refunds will be distributed in the form of a pre-paid Visa card. Enjoy your new Windows 10 Premium App Experience!"
Take off every Sig. For great justice.
There's no proprietary applications because all the users insist on sticking with Windows, and refuse to budge. So fuck 'em: let them pay lots of money to look at ads and deal with a shit UI.
GIMP works fine for me, BTW, but Krita is really more user-friendly. LibreOffice works better than MS Office. And lots of stuff is going to web-based services these days so you don't need desktop apps for them. But for places where your business needs some app and it only works on Windows, have fun suffering with MS's abuse. I have no sympathy. That's what you get for not forcing vendors to support your chosen platform. Some vendors support MacOSX because customers demanded it, so it's not like you're forced to use Windows everywhere.
I can't wait until we are all forced to watch a 30 second ad before our program will start. Want to run Microsoft Word, Skype, or even a third-party app? You must watch a commercial that you can't skip, first.
I don't think they're going to desert either, no matter how awful MS treats them.
What'll eventually happen is that tablet-like devices will make home PCs obsolete. People will get sick of MS's crapware, and younger people just won't bother buying into it, and will get iPads instead or whatever. But MS will enjoy years and years of profits from older people who refuse to give up their PCs, just like cable companies are still getting lots of profits from idiots who refuse to "cut the cord" because they're addicted to sports and cable TV. Eventually, the customers will die out, but it'll take decades, kinda like Lincoln cars.
No, you're committing a logical fallacy by thinking argumentum ergo decedo applies here. Microsoft is a private company that sells software, and "users of MS software" is a voluntary group which willingly gives money to MS in exchange for software and services. That group has zero power over MS's actions, other than through their voluntary monetary transactions with it.
Here's an analogy for you: you're renting an extended-stay room. You rent it on a weekly or monthly basis, it's fully furnished, and some services are included for that price.
You decide you don't like the way the management is running the extended stay hotel, and you want to get involved and get them to make a bunch of changes, such as putting in nicer mattresses, WiFi that doesn't carry a hefty per-day charge, and selling different foods in the mini-mart downstairs. You go to management with a letter demanding all these changes. The manager says, "if you don't like it, you can leave". Guess what? He's right. You have no power, other than to take your business elsewhere. There's no logical fallacy here: the hotel owns the building, and their agent (the manager) can run it as he pleases. (If you like, you can assume that you contact the corporate CEO to complain about the manager and he tells you to fuck off.) Being a customer of this hotel is not like being part of some group of peers, or some democratic nation where you have some power to change things. You're paying a fee for a service, and that's it. If you don't like the terms, you can go elsewhere, or STFU. The hotel doesn't care about your feelings, and has told you this in no uncertain terms. So are you going to keep rewarding them with your service and pleading with them to change, or are you going to go to their competitor across the street?
It's no different with Microsoft. If you don't like their product/service and the way they do business, you have precisely two choices: put up with it, or leave. It's their business, and they can run it any way they please.
You can complain all you want, but you're wasting your breath. The company doesn't give a shit what you think.