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India Records Its Hottest Day Ever As Temperature Hits 51C (123.8F) (theguardian.com)
An anonymous reader writes: A city in northern India has shattered the national heat record, registering a searing 51C -- the highest since records began -- amid a nationwide heatwave. The new record was set in Phalodi, a city in the desert state of Rajasthan, and is the equivalent of 123.8F. It tops a previous record of 50.6C set in 1956."Yesterday (Thursday) was the hottest temperature ever recorded in the country... 51C in Phalodi," said BP Yadav, a director of India's meteorological department, on Friday.
Yes - a culling is the right and proper thing to do to save the planet.
If we kill 3/4 of the humans, problem solved.
nuclear winter will do that + cool us down for some time.
If this trend continues, and it looks like it will, we will see "environmental refugees" increase. It will become more difficult to support life in certain parts of this planet, places that have had human civilization for quite a long time.
Sure, technology could alleviate many of the problems of living in a place with extreme heat, but that requires money and political will.
We have already seen the warnings about areas of the Middle East becoming uninhabitable later this century.
Where will these people go?
Who will support them?
How will governments deal with the crisis?
We play the game with the bravery of being out of range
You know it's a bad sign when the weather report for the day is "sous-vide".
Actually...as reported in the link....the temperature is 120oF. 51C is only 2 digits of significance.....If its 51.0, then your get 124oF. Same thing with body temperature....it was only ever recorded as 37oC, so average body temp is 99oF, not 98.6. This is Slashdot after all.
Um, "shattered"? Really? By my calculations, the old record was 123.08 degrees Fahrenheit. The new record , as the OP stated, is 123.8 degrees Fahrenheit. I know this type of record often deals with miniscule differences in measurement, but "shattered" still seems a bit much.
Funny, to me he said his name was Bob. From Kansas.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The only cure is more cowbell...
The rising sea levels will soon put a soothing cool around their ankles, nothing to worry about.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Brad. I've encountered a rash of accented phone support guys named Brad.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Now when did you quit beating your wife?
I'm waiting for temperatures in some places in Texas and Arizona to reach 150 deg F and some climate change deniers change their tune.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Epic statistics fail. It shouldn't take a denier to call out this kind of bullshit.
When she was born.
its like cooking shit maaan. shitty steam of shitty shit
It's just weather.
You mean the fact that a temp within the margin of error of standard liquid in glass thermometers when perfectly calibrated and positioned is not in fact any sort of record shattering event as described by the article?
Now the PHB's won't have to even bother with H1B paperwork...the new hires can just claim climate-change refugee status.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
While I don't deny anything, the fact that somewhere on earth a 60 year old record was broken by a fraction of a degree doesn't mean much.....
love is just extroverted narcissism
They are known to run very hot and I'm sure 1,276,267,000 of them are having an effect on the climate. /In fact I once knocked a bottle of water near my computer and it evaporated before it reached the electronics. //I also used my athlon with a desk fan pointed towards wet clothes to quickly dry them in the summer.
Heck, we hit 132F in the Phoenix area back sometime around 1985 or so (not the officially recorded temp but measured at my house). I'm honestly kinda surprised India hasn't hit higher than 51C before now in all honesty.
TFA does not say when records began. Recorded weather history in all cases is relatively short, and such should not be used as an indicator of any kind of trend.
"Highest in recorded history" is a nice, sensational headline, but is misleading at best and sociologically reckless at worst.
I’m starting with the man in the mirror //
I’m asking him to change his ways //
And no message could have been any clearer //
If you wanna make the world a better place //
(If you wanna make the world a better place) //
Take a look at yourself, and then make a change //
(Take a look at yourself, and then make a change)
if they all die.
I disagree on the terrorism part when looked at over a longer period of time. It's only currently that a lot of terrorist are muslims, most likely due to the wars we're fighting in the middle east.
But what the hell's up with the greenhouse gas argument? Do you get gassy from schawarma or something?
Eat the rich.
Look at how many temperature records have been broken over the last 20-25 years.
http://imgur.com/gallery/5IbCK...
Eat the rich.
Like I said, I don't deny anything but statistically meaningless. I don't have the chops to statistically calculate the number of records you would expect to be broken for the thousands of temperature measurements but someone does.....
love is just extroverted narcissism
its got nothing on Death Valley, CA
So what? I live in VA and the high's in the summer are around 120 with a "feels like" temp of around 130+. Maybe this year I'll actually record the high temps. since everywhere seems to have different temp. readings. Maybe they average out the entire day or something?
Weather isn't climate when it doesn't fit the narrative. Weather is climate when it does. Cue the armchair scientists.
Meanwhile, I don't think anyone really gives a crap if it's man made climate change or not. We need to treat the planet better either way.
Will remember that next winter when people are talking about global warming.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Clearly no one here watches Foamy Squirrel and Tech Support cartoons.. Oh well.. Back to being Elon Musk c*ck suckers.
Would've figured it was higher due to being closer to the equator. The high for a U.S. city (i.e. not Death Valley) is 128 F (53 C). Several cities matched or exceeded 121 F during that heat wave. Yeah, India tends to have more humidity than Arizona, but a quick check of the weather in Phalodi says today's humidity is 11%, indicating it's also a desert-like environment.
Google tells me that the highest recorded temperature on Earth is 58C, recorded in the Libyan desert in 1922, but that was later disqualified, leaving the record at 56.7 (134F) in Death Vally in 1913.
Citation needed. Lets take Wausau - well away from the moderating effects of teh lakes, yet still pretty northernly. Looks like there's only one day where the temperature hit -30 in 2013. There's not one day in 2014 that even hits -30F
What location are you thinking about that had more than 30 days with lows below -30?
The problem is climate change. Both extreme cold and extreme heat are consistent with this change.
And all of this "record-breaking" is still under 1 degree Celsius — or well within the margin of error of most thermometers (especially those of the 19th century). Phlease...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
OB xkcd.
So...Wisconsin was really cold the winters of '14 and '15, and from TFS, India is in the middle of a heat wave. What's your point?
I guess I'm a Climate Change "Denier". But what I'm denying is that taxes and more government is going to solve anything. Which is ultimately what any "solution" is all about.
If you don't believe that taxes and government intervention are going to solve climate problems, that's not "denier." You are a denier if you believe that taxes and government intervention are bad, and therefore you attack the climate science (not the politics, the science) because it's a soft target.
The science is correct, or incorrect, regardless of your views on the desirability of particular solutions.
What I have seen, however, is that people who advocate a libertarian philosophy tend to attack the science because if the science actually were correct, they don't have any solutions to offer. Since they don't have any solutions, they deny the problem.
How exactally does this relate to news for nerdz???
While I have no issues with other cultures, etc.. I think and feel this shoudl be in Nature, the Indian Times, or maybe in the Guiness book of werld rekordz..
NOT here..
i know its a slow news day, but please, look aat tomshardware or anandtech or hackaday..
this loolks rightofrf CNN..
the trend is sure to continue because we're coming out of an ice age.
Nope. The ice age ended ten thousand years ago, and the hottest years of the post-ice-age holocene was eight thousand years ago. So, no, we're not warming due to coming out a glaciation, because that warming already finished eight thousand years ago.
the stability of the global climate in the last 200 years or so is an exception, not the rule.
Nope. The current warming is exceptional: warmer than it's been over the last 2000 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
What's more important, though, is that the cause is well understood. We know why the climate is warming, because we have very good measurements of other possible causes, such as solar variation, and they aren't large enough to create the temperatures we see. So, the worry isn't about the small amount of warming we've already seen-- the worry is that we are still emitting carbon dioxide, and the physics of carbon dioxide hasn't changed.
I find it hard for you to imagine anything when that temperature (in Celsius) would be much higher than your IQ.
Actually the Syria situation was initiated by an unprecedented multi-year drought. This depopulated hundreds of rural villages, which destabilized the regime. The Assads have been ruthlessly crushing Islamist uprisings for generations, but this time the cities were flooded with hungry, angry, unemployed young men. The spark for ISIS was always there, but climate refugees gave it the fuel it needed to become unquenchable.
No.
The protests in Syria, the rebellion, the rise of ISIS and everything else facing the Syrian people had NOTHING to do with 'climate'.
Let's start off with the reason for people to be angry and desperate, and that is squarely the brutal repression of the Assad family dictatorship.
Next up, what went wrong with the standard operating procedure of the Assad family of simply killing everyone involved with and related to the protests? For starters, Assad initially met the peaceful protesters with half-measures and merely used snipers to kill off some of the protesters. It would seem he estimated that would drive them off and be the end of it. He miscalculated.
Now, normally that was a mistake he could've corrected by coming in late and still killing all the protesters and their friends and relatives. The trouble for him was that Saddam no longer ruled Iraq and the Iraq/Syria border was now freely navigable instead of a quick trip from one concentration camp to another. Additionally, let's not forget the enormous wealth of resources Saudi Arabia was spending on beefing up the insurgency in Syria because they don't much like Iran's allies. With Saudi funded insurgents pouring in from the Iraq border Assad missed his window to just kill everyone and lost control of things.
Granted, the weather was a bit dry too. I think it is on the side of malicious though to twist every tragedy to boost your own personal agenda. So if you don't mind, stop it.
Stop using thousands of dead Syrians as props to promote the climate alarmism you desire.
Stop abdicating the collective guilt of the monsters in Assad's regime and the ISIS insurgents.
Please just stop.
If it's colder than usual, it's "weather". If it's warmer than usual, it's "climate change" an we MUST DO SOMETHING!!!
Peace is easy to achieve, just surrender. Liberty is much harder get/keep.
I call upon the Pakistanis with wonderful sense of patriotism to rise to the occasion and beat the record set by India. I am sure Pakistan will post 52 degree record soon.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I'm not sure you really looked into Islamic history. It's rife with War and slavery, and not just the Crusades.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Epic statistics fail. It shouldn't take a denier to call out this kind of bullshit.
Oh, but you don't understand -- isolated high temperature records beating the previous record by a fraction of a degree are proof of the danger from anthropogenic climage change, while weeks of abnormally low temperatures across large areas of a country are just weather. It's one of the basic tenets of the AGC dogma -- data that supports your premise is proof of the dangers of AGC; data that contradicts it is just a local, isolated anomaly.
In Hyderabad Yesterday Temperature Is Around 50c .
From How To Geeek
Heatwaves, caused by the solar output are predictable to an extent and happen regardless of human input. Can the people who refer to me as a climate change denialist, stop telling me that they can prevent the climate from changing? By all means, slow down the 'change' so we have an even larger population when the shit hits the fan. Honestly, until these consensual scientists start doing real science in regards to the actual heat driver around here instead of voting, then maybe actual problems of resource distribution can be solved.
It appears that it has been quite warm in India, at least since 1897 (when Mark Twain published "Following the Equator"):
"In India, "cold weather" is merely a conventional phrase and has come into use through the necessity of having some way to distinguish between weather which will melt a brass door-knob and weather which will only make it mushy."
But of course, Twain was speaking of weather, not climate.
that you're a shill and shut up, i thought that was obvious from the comic? maybe try reading it again, don't post again... we'll just assume you will post a stupid remark.
Despite the obvious evidence that this record high is due to man made global warming, the deniers will be out in force. It's a shame that there are so many people here who reject science.
One individual record is not evidence of much but simply just another piece of data in a record that is collecting thousands of pieces of data every day. The temperature record is made statistically more likely by anthropogenic global warming but can't be attributed directly to it. However most of SE Asia has been suffering heatwaves since April and it may be possible with analysis to attribute some of it to AGW in a few years.
It is a shame that so many people let their ideology get in the way of understanding science.
Unfortunately the record is invalid because at teh time everyone there was pretending to be from Birmingham.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You've obviously not spent much time around Indians.
They usually stink and don't even wash their hands after using them to wipe their asses after taking a dump ! And thats the ones in the West ! Imagine how bad they must be living in their original nests.
Ewwwwww
FYI. It's been calculated that at our current rate of growth, the oceans will all evaporate in less than 500 years. Obviously something has to give eventually.
:T:R:A:N:S:
not as hot as Hell.
I'm not sure you really looked into Christian history. It's rife with war and slavery, and not just the crusades.
Substitute "Christian" for "viking", "Roman", "Greek", "American" etc. etc.
Eat the rich.
So it might be inaccurate. What's wrong with the theory, though? Remember, if you can't identify what part of the theory is wrong, then you're spending an awful lot of time arguing against something you agree with.
Does CO2 not absorb IR? Does it not accumulate in the atmosphere? Have you discovered another way for the planet to lose heat? How about massive undetected orbital changes?
AGW is a scientific theory because we haven't been able to falsify it yet. We need only a single contradictory fact. We've been studying the issue intently for the last half century, and the central idea is more than a century old. There were a couple times when it was thought to be conclusively disproven, actually, but the competing theories were contradicted by other evidence. There are a number of possible facts which would disprove AGW. I'm not even going to ask you to substantiate your alternate theory, just suggest what else you think is going on. Why isn't Earth warming?
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
As far as body counts are concerned, I think modern America is in the lead, over Muslim terrorists.
Non-sequitur. Logical Fallacy. Who said anything about Christianity? Nobody was comparing them. This is a moron's argument. "..but Christianity!"
Fine, if you want to compare, use a relevant time frame at least. Christianity has it's share of shit but hasn't done anything on the scale of ISIS, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, Al Qeada, Al Shabaab, and the Taliban in hundreds of years.
I stated a fact. You can start educating yourself by reading about the Ottoman Empire, the Mamluks, and the Moors. Learn about their expansion and conquests over the middle east and beyond, into Persia and India, as well as into Africa and up the Iberian Peninsula. Sticking your head in the sand about it, or citing another group, does nothing, changes nothing.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
And you could start by looking into ALL of human history.
We are in a uniquely peaceful period in time, all things considered.
Eat the rich.
This is true, there have always been wars. My intent was not to say, "ermagerd, muslims! Tehy're all evil!" but simply to mitigate the fallacy that Islam is really peaceful, and that muslims have been nothing but benevolent throughout their history, except when attacked by crusaders. They're no more a religion of peace than christianity or judaism are. In general, Monotheistic religions aren't peaceful, because they're always worshiping the "one true god" and all other religions are thus the enemy.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Good, we agree then.
I'm just getting sick and tired of people painting Islam as "evil" and Christianity as "good", when they're equally shitty.
Eat the rich.