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UCLA Shooter Accused Victim Of Stealing His Computer Code
The gunman who shot and killed a UCLA professor on Wednesday has been identified as Mainak Sarkar, said Los Angeles police. Sarkar, a former doctoral student accused the vicitim William Klug, 39, of stealing his computer code and giving it to someone else. According to reports, Sarkar used a 9mm semiautomatic pistol to shoot the professor, and then turned the gun on himself. A March 10 blog post by Sarkar, now archived reads: William Klug, UCLA professor is not the kind of person when you think of a professor. He is a very sick person. I urge every new student coming to UCLA to stay away from this guy. [...] My name is Mainak Sarkar. I was this guy's PhD student. We had personal differences. He cleverly stole all my code and gave it another student. He made me really sick. Your enemy is your enemy. But your friend can do a lot more harm. Be careful about whom you trust.
They should teach software licensing to psychotic students.
If he had GPLed it first then his professor couldn't steal it.
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In my own experience as a grad student, the terms were not unlike those at a company. The work you do in a research group belongs to the university, and it's normal practice for research codes to be passed on to other grad students for continuity within a research group. If Sarkar's code was something personal, then he could have a legitimate complaint, but the whole thing sounds fishy.
Klug's real crime was that he changed all the tabs in the code to spaces before handing the code to another student.
Some developers really do not like that sort of thing.
We're dealing with a lunatic here. It's possible the professor did nothing wrong at all. I knew someone who was convinced a teacher was stealing his work because the college he went to uses Google Drive. Once people have a psychotic break of some kind and start down the road to paranoia and persecution, reality simply takes a back seat, if it even exists for them at all.
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The important thing for researchers is getting credit, giving code to someone else to use is not stealing, *but claiming you made it is*. Having said that the case could have been either, we wont be able to tell for a while it is still to soon.
Funny how all of the media yesterday came right out screaming that it was a white male who had committed the shooting...nope, no evidence of bias here guys. None at all...anyone else want to bet that since the shooter is no longer white in the news cycle, you won't hear about it anymore. It's kinda like those ~400 people and 21 dead shot in Chicago in the last month.
What a fucking mess. You guys in the US really need to get your shit together over the media and their agenda carrying.
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I just want to know what level of crazy this person really was. Did he really have a novel piece of code, and just didn't know how to deal with the loss. Or are we dealing with a nutcase who saw a fellow student use a linked list the same way he did, and assumed that they must have gotten it from the teacher.
https://arduinohistory.github....
worth a read. I had no idea massimo stole the idea from his student.
I think a lot less of massimo now, sad to say. yeah, he messed up the top .1 spaced headers (a crime in itself) but taking a student's work and calling it your own, that's really something to be publicly shamed over.
and yet, massimo does world tours claiming he's the arduino inventor guy.
just read the student's post about how HE came up with the concepts and had it stolen from him. I feel for him and I can imagine that happening, too.
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Why are you assuming what this obviously deranged person said actually represents the facts?
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From the UCLA copyright information: "At UC, students generally own the copyrights in their creative works, including theses and dissertations. Any works produced by a registered student without the use of university funds (other than Student Financial Aid) is the intellectual property of the student."
But we don't (yet?) know what really went down.
Academic plagiarism is a huge issue and very common. I have even seen different academic departments (e.g. math vs physics) fight each other over these issues. When undergrad students and graduate students do work for a professor and are not named in the paper or the work is given to another student for use and publication, students have no recourse. It is important to understand that many grad students have no grant or employment contract which cedes IP rights to the university/professor. University in-house counsel and IP departments have no oversight of publication or assignment of credit. I would only perform work for a professor (for free without an employment contract) if I could demand a contract outlining ownership.
Well damn fool write some more code... your code is not like bodily fluids it is not that precious.
In Engineering and Computer Science, code is quite valuable, particularly in PhD programs where the requirement is to demonstrate 5-10% new information as part of the program and do it within 6 years.
Depending on the complexity of the work.. the code could potentially be worth a lot of money and taking quite a few years to perfect.
Well, obviously we need a terrorist computer science profession gun control list.
We can't have all these unbalanced, introverted, jealous, code stealing folks out there running around able to buy guns in the US.
I mean, I'm surprised it took THIS long to bring this subject up, considering all the many gun related killing comp sci folks commit annually.....ESPECIALLY in the University Systems where tenure is at stake!!
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Alas many posts from many people are rather crazy, yet very few of their authors go shoot people.
How do you tell one from the other ahead of time?
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The UCLA shooter, Mainak Sarkar, apparently had a list he was working his way down. His ex girlfriend has been found dead, and was on his list. He's a Muslim from India, BTW, though Islam seems to be a coincidence for once.
Of course, it's still early, and more details always come to light in the week following a shooting, but this really looks like a guy settling all his grudges on his way out.
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Klug, who was described by friends as a kind and caring man, worked diligently to help Sarkar finish his dissertation and graduate, even though the quality of Sarkar’s work was not stellar, one source said. “Bill was extremely generous to this student, who was a subpar student,” the person said.
Passing code and data from one student to another is a normal and common practice that ensures continuity of the project, reproducibility of the research, etc. This guy is clearly nuts.
Someone steals your work (assuming that info is correct)
The system doesn't care (assuming he reported it, and they all said "tough shit" or similar)
You have two choices, take it in the ass like a bitch whore, or go on a rampage to bring attention to the cause.
Now, before you go down the road of picking one side or another, the common theme these days, for wrongs committed but never addressed by the powers that be is to riot. Ferguson, Philly, Trevon, hell, even Trump. And while murder itself wasn't a direct result (that we know of) of these violent acts of protest, they were and are all violent acts of protest, and all fairly excused by implied consent among large parts of the population.
No, I am not trolling here, the fact is, violent protests are more or less excused, and keep occurring because of that tacit approval that as long as the "wrong" is enough, violence is justifiable, at least to some degree.
Now, my view is that VIOLENCE is the last resort of a free people, not the first course of action; Boxes: soap, ballot, jury, ammo ... in that order.
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Not really a coincidence. Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor. It's one thing Muslim men take seriously.
Over-generalization is always a bad idea. ;)
Many recent shootings have been clearly tied to this sort of BS, no argument there, but those were accompanied by declarations of faith - the motivation wasn't at all unclear. This one is different (so far, anyway, it's still early days). Not everyone who lists a religion on a form actually cares about the tenets of their religion - heck, I'd bet most don't. I'm suspicious given the recent pattern, but let's go with facts as they emerge over assumption.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
...that we have a serious culture-of-crazy-people-willing-to-kill-over-nothing problem; unfortunately, it's too politically useful to interpret it as a "gun problem".
-Styopa
In fairness to the shooter, I also go nuts when someone checks in sh*t that won't compile properly.
There is more violence in Venezuela than in the US, even with guns banned. It's not so simple.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
1% of the population in the us vs 5% of the population in the uk, that's a big difference. That said I don't think muslim is the problem here. It's just a shield to hide their own personal violence behind.
There are a few religions with their own country that have seats in the UN, but Islam isn't one of them.
And there are some people that will lie, cheat, steal, and hurt you, but hey don't exclusively belong to any group. They are mixed in among everyone and the most dangerous ones are the ones that wear the same clothes as you.
They evidently can't read either. Didn't he know he was entering a "gun free zone"? If he'd seen the signs saying guns were not allowed he would've undoubtedly stopped and rethought his actions.
Clearly we need more signs and enhanced reading programs so people can be sure to see them and be able to read them clearly. That will stop all gun crime for sure.
In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Muslims don't look so violent if you consider the other causes, like political unrest, foreign forces occupation, wars, etc. Borders also are more relevant as cause of violence in Muslim countries than religion, just compare their violence rates with those of the countries with border disputes.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
Not really a coincidence. Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor. It's one thing Muslim men take seriously.
So do Texans, you don't see calls to build a wall around Texas every time someone gets killed in a bar fight.
Look at the number of girls killed by their own fathers because of perceived honor.
And in those cases there is a clear religious/cultural motive.
This is nothing new. We in America are only now really seeing what Islam really is. I was in and around the US military for 26 years. One thing I know for absolute certain that is not being discussed is that Islam is not really a religion--it's a political system with a religious element. Islam and its adherents base their actions on Sharia Law. Full stop. The media is very, very reluctant to point this out.
Isn't the US having a big debate about gay marriage? There seems to be a lot of arguments popping up based on Christian law.
Sure most Islamic nations take it a bit further, as do many Muslims. There's also a lot of Muslims trying to go the other way as well.
Notice the difference between how Islam and Christianity are treated today in the US. Ask yourself this question: What do you think homosexual activists are not asking Muslim bakers to bake them a cake for their weddings? Do you honestly think that this line of action would even be considered? There answer is no.
Those activists are trying to change laws and establish new norms. You do that by confronting the majority, not by picking fights with a small politically irrelevant minority.
For those not believing what I said above about Islam being a political system with a religious element need to look at this for themselves. You will come to see I am correct. The military used to operate under this understanding, but the current administration has forbidden this. Why? We all know why. This administration does nothing but coddle Islam, refuses to use the term "Islamic terrorism", allows a known terrorist organization, the Muslim Brotherhood into the WH, the list goes on.
They're trying to end fights, not start them.
You're basing this whole idea on speculation around the shooter's specific beliefs and motives, truthfully we have no idea of his specific motives or beliefs aside from the fact he probably agreed that the label "Muslim" described some of them.
Of course having that label "Muslim" I'm certain that a particular political candidate won't be able to keep their mouth shut.
I stole this Sig
given the evidence, I'd pretty much ignore anything he said without a heck of a lot of corroborating evidence.
Except that the shooter is most likely not muslim. *Sigh* Sarkar is a common bengali surname, and most likely hindu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Your unjustified rant sounds like a classic case of: http://imgur.com/t75V7oe
Do they have a strong central government enforcing those laws, or are they "banned" in name only, and enforced only against.political enemies?
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As opposed to the 14,000 Americans shot and killed by Americans each year. Then there are the thousands shot and killed by law enforcement each year.
You do realize there are over 3 million Muslims in the United States, right?
And too many radicalized Conservatives think these peaceful Muslims, many of whom escaped hellholes to live here, are all out to get us.
We should ask where our Conservatives were radicalized in the same way we look into how some Muslims get radicalized. I'm pretty sure hate-radio, wingnut blogs, and Fox News are the cause.
Notice the difference between how Islam and Christianity are treated today in the US. Ask yourself this question: What do you think homosexual activists are not asking Muslim bakers to bake them a cake for their weddings?
You know who else they're not asking? Jews. Hindus. Buddhists. Sikhs. Taoists. Jains. Zoroastrians. Satanists. Wiccans.
Clearly it's not Muslims that are getting some special treatment here, it's Christians. But is it because of some hypothesized 'War on Christianity'?
Or is it the fact that 70.6% of the US population is some form of Christian, and another 22.8% is unaffiliated with any religion. That leaves 6.6% of the US population split across all of the world's various other religions. Indeed, only 0.9% of the US population adheres to Islam. We should expect 1 in every 111 targets of homosexual-activists-asking-people-to-bake-them-gay-cakes to be Muslim. Are you suggesting that you're aware of this many such events, as well as the religious leanings of every baker targeted this way?
Of course, these estimates assume uniform distribution of religious minorities, gay activists, and homophobic bakers. If you actually had the demographic data to not rely on such a simplistic assumption, I wouldn't be surprised if the odds of targeting a Muslim baker were even lower-still (as I suspect that religious minorities are more well-represented in areas that are more tolerant, and that gay activists would be attempting this baking schtick in areas that are less tolerant).
But this is all conjecture. I fully grant that it's entirely possible that you're right and no gay rights activists are targeting Muslim bakers because Muslim bakers inspire such a profoundly deep fear in their enemies.
Chuuch. Preach. Tabernacle.
Keypunch stations? As in a mechanical punch? Sheesh. Kid, in my day we punched them by hand and we liked it that way. How are you supposed to have pride in it if you don't punch it yourself?
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The US thankfully doesn't get the more unsavory Muslims from abroad in the numbers that Europe does. It's a lot harder to just walk to us. But this is one of the leading reasons they think the US hasn't seen the same or as many issues from Muslims here as they are seeing in Europe.
Islam is not a race. Being broadly anti-Muslim is bad, but not racism. Being critical of some parts of Islam (either how it's currently practiced in some areas, or some of its teachings) does not make you a racist either.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
Bullshit. Sarcar is a Hindu Surname
**Life is too short to be serious**
Except he wasn't Muslim... https://www.everipedia.com/mai... His name is distinctly Hindu.
I'll tell you the primary power difference between Christianity and Islam:
1) Jesus said, "Render to Caesar what is Caesar and to God what is God's". This cleaves the core religion from government. Jesus was a single, poor itinerant preacher who was crucified between thieves. One can be a good Christian and accept a separation of church and state.
2) Muhammad was a political and military leader who created a religion which also was a system of government. There can be no separation of church and state in Islam. One cannot be a good Muslim and accept a separation of mosque and state.
Henry VIII was sick of being pushed around by the Catholic Church, a competing power center to his own. So he formed the Anglican church and set himself as the head of it.
The Founders said, in the First Amendment, that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". They too understood organized religion as a competing power center and knew not to allow one to spread its roots to take hold of the government. Such a dichotomy is nonsensical in Islam.
IMHO, the age of University is quickly dying. While it will likely never completely disappear, the structure is likely to really be different in the next 40 years. The whole world's knowledge is at our fingertips, all we have to do is look. Do not let school get in the way of your education.
Today, I've learned a little bit about AstroPhysics, Biology, Philosophy, and a tad about History. Yesterday, I learned something about cooking, gardening, and health/wellness.
I've learned more in the last year, than I did in four years of college. Because I am not prescribed a schedule of study, I can study a much broader scope, and as deep of a level as I want, on topics that interests me, than the university I attended 30 years ago could provide. There is NO piece of paper that can show what I know, because all that represents is a stagnate single point of time.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
We (USA) did massive damage in the Mid-East long before 911. We sustained the Shah to get oil, we backed the creation ex nihilo of Israel, among other things. In more recent times, our cultural influence from Hollywood and music is easily viewed as an attack (we may not have intended it, but we were massively disruptive in many parts of the world with our mass media). We (USA) are largely seen as the successors to the British and the abuses of the colonial system. If a person believes that sons should answer for the sins of their fathers, it's easy to justify a 911 attack. And now we are a part of the mess that has been raging for centuries.