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UCLA Shooter Accused Victim Of Stealing His Computer Code
The gunman who shot and killed a UCLA professor on Wednesday has been identified as Mainak Sarkar, said Los Angeles police. Sarkar, a former doctoral student accused the vicitim William Klug, 39, of stealing his computer code and giving it to someone else. According to reports, Sarkar used a 9mm semiautomatic pistol to shoot the professor, and then turned the gun on himself. A March 10 blog post by Sarkar, now archived reads: William Klug, UCLA professor is not the kind of person when you think of a professor. He is a very sick person. I urge every new student coming to UCLA to stay away from this guy. [...] My name is Mainak Sarkar. I was this guy's PhD student. We had personal differences. He cleverly stole all my code and gave it another student. He made me really sick. Your enemy is your enemy. But your friend can do a lot more harm. Be careful about whom you trust.
They should teach software licensing to psychotic students.
If he had GPLed it first then his professor couldn't steal it.
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In my own experience as a grad student, the terms were not unlike those at a company. The work you do in a research group belongs to the university, and it's normal practice for research codes to be passed on to other grad students for continuity within a research group. If Sarkar's code was something personal, then he could have a legitimate complaint, but the whole thing sounds fishy.
Klug's real crime was that he changed all the tabs in the code to spaces before handing the code to another student.
Some developers really do not like that sort of thing.
We're dealing with a lunatic here. It's possible the professor did nothing wrong at all. I knew someone who was convinced a teacher was stealing his work because the college he went to uses Google Drive. Once people have a psychotic break of some kind and start down the road to paranoia and persecution, reality simply takes a back seat, if it even exists for them at all.
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Because it is about someone who uses computers?
It is unwise to ascribe motive
The important thing for researchers is getting credit, giving code to someone else to use is not stealing, *but claiming you made it is*. Having said that the case could have been either, we wont be able to tell for a while it is still to soon.
Funny how all of the media yesterday came right out screaming that it was a white male who had committed the shooting...nope, no evidence of bias here guys. None at all...anyone else want to bet that since the shooter is no longer white in the news cycle, you won't hear about it anymore. It's kinda like those ~400 people and 21 dead shot in Chicago in the last month.
What a fucking mess. You guys in the US really need to get your shit together over the media and their agenda carrying.
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I just want to know what level of crazy this person really was. Did he really have a novel piece of code, and just didn't know how to deal with the loss. Or are we dealing with a nutcase who saw a fellow student use a linked list the same way he did, and assumed that they must have gotten it from the teacher.
https://arduinohistory.github....
worth a read. I had no idea massimo stole the idea from his student.
I think a lot less of massimo now, sad to say. yeah, he messed up the top .1 spaced headers (a crime in itself) but taking a student's work and calling it your own, that's really something to be publicly shamed over.
and yet, massimo does world tours claiming he's the arduino inventor guy.
just read the student's post about how HE came up with the concepts and had it stolen from him. I feel for him and I can imagine that happening, too.
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Why are you assuming what this obviously deranged person said actually represents the facts?
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It seems he drove from Minnesota to UCLA, he killed someone there and also had a hit list of another professor that he did not get. Yes he was crazy. Its unfortunate that this was not recognized sooner, his posts were there well before he committed to act.
From the UCLA copyright information: "At UC, students generally own the copyrights in their creative works, including theses and dissertations. Any works produced by a registered student without the use of university funds (other than Student Financial Aid) is the intellectual property of the student."
But we don't (yet?) know what really went down.
Either he had grounds for a lawsuit, and wouldn't lose standing in the academic community by suing because the prof's actions were egregiously wrong, or.... he had no grounds for a lawsuit and had simply failed to understand the conditions under which his work could be re-used.
A lot of things in academic life are a raw deal: Tired TAs doing the actual teaching, great teachers who don't get tenure because publishing is regarded as more important, "piled higher and deeper" because publishing is important, etc. If you don't know that going in, once again... it's all on you.
I have more sympathy for undergrads who didn't realize they'd be crushed by debt and having a hard time finding a job that covers it when they get out. By the time you're going for a PhD, you should realize how the world works.
This guy was incredibly unstable and sound like over the top paranoid. Maybe even Schizophrenic.
Sick people do sick things.
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Academic plagiarism is a huge issue and very common. I have even seen different academic departments (e.g. math vs physics) fight each other over these issues. When undergrad students and graduate students do work for a professor and are not named in the paper or the work is given to another student for use and publication, students have no recourse. It is important to understand that many grad students have no grant or employment contract which cedes IP rights to the university/professor. University in-house counsel and IP departments have no oversight of publication or assignment of credit. I would only perform work for a professor (for free without an employment contract) if I could demand a contract outlining ownership.
Well damn fool write some more code... your code is not like bodily fluids it is not that precious.
In Engineering and Computer Science, code is quite valuable, particularly in PhD programs where the requirement is to demonstrate 5-10% new information as part of the program and do it within 6 years.
Depending on the complexity of the work.. the code could potentially be worth a lot of money and taking quite a few years to perfect.
It's all fake, it has to be.
This was a gun free zone, so things like that can't happen there. And California has all those gun laws, so they would prevent that; And he used a pistol so they should ban all long guns, because that will solve it.
And the penalty for copyright infringement is clearly death. I mean, duh.
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Cue flurry of handgun restriction bills in the near future.
I'd go with playing odds on this one.
UCLA provides the full Google suite: Apps, Drive, email, Earth Pro, and all the rest.
The UCLA shooter, Mainak Sarkar, apparently had a list he was working his way down. His ex girlfriend has been found dead, and was on his list. He's a Muslim from India, BTW, though Islam seems to be a coincidence for once.
Of course, it's still early, and more details always come to light in the week following a shooting, but this really looks like a guy settling all his grudges on his way out.
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Klug, who was described by friends as a kind and caring man, worked diligently to help Sarkar finish his dissertation and graduate, even though the quality of Sarkar’s work was not stellar, one source said. “Bill was extremely generous to this student, who was a subpar student,” the person said.
Passing code and data from one student to another is a normal and common practice that ensures continuity of the project, reproducibility of the research, etc. This guy is clearly nuts.
Someone steals your work (assuming that info is correct)
The system doesn't care (assuming he reported it, and they all said "tough shit" or similar)
You have two choices, take it in the ass like a bitch whore, or go on a rampage to bring attention to the cause.
Now, before you go down the road of picking one side or another, the common theme these days, for wrongs committed but never addressed by the powers that be is to riot. Ferguson, Philly, Trevon, hell, even Trump. And while murder itself wasn't a direct result (that we know of) of these violent acts of protest, they were and are all violent acts of protest, and all fairly excused by implied consent among large parts of the population.
No, I am not trolling here, the fact is, violent protests are more or less excused, and keep occurring because of that tacit approval that as long as the "wrong" is enough, violence is justifiable, at least to some degree.
Now, my view is that VIOLENCE is the last resort of a free people, not the first course of action; Boxes: soap, ballot, jury, ammo ... in that order.
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Not really a coincidence. Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor. It's one thing Muslim men take seriously. Look at the number of girls killed by their own fathers because of perceived honor. This is nothing new. We in America are only now really seeing what Islam really is. I was in and around the US military for 26 years. One thing I know for absolute certain that is not being discussed is that Islam is not really a religion--it's a political system with a religious element. Islam and its adherents base their actions on Sharia Law. Full stop. The media is very, very reluctant to point this out.
Notice the difference between how Islam and Christianity are treated today in the US. Ask yourself this question: What do you think homosexual activists are not asking Muslim bakers to bake them a cake for their weddings? Do you honestly think that this line of action would even be considered? There answer is no.
For those not believing what I said above about Islam being a political system with a religious element need to look at this for themselves. You will come to see I am correct. The military used to operate under this understanding, but the current administration has forbidden this. Why? We all know why. This administration does nothing but coddle Islam, refuses to use the term "Islamic terrorism", allows a known terrorist organization, the Muslim Brotherhood into the WH, the list goes on.
We will see more crimes like this from Muslims. Look at the UK and Germany, where it's now illegal to call this stuff out or face charges of hate speech.
He should have just filed a complaint under the DMCA. Can't have people stealing Intellectual Property, after all!
Instead of killing someone who you believed stole your code you could have simply sued them. Or complain to the university.
Not really a coincidence. Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor. It's one thing Muslim men take seriously.
Over-generalization is always a bad idea. ;)
Many recent shootings have been clearly tied to this sort of BS, no argument there, but those were accompanied by declarations of faith - the motivation wasn't at all unclear. This one is different (so far, anyway, it's still early days). Not everyone who lists a religion on a form actually cares about the tenets of their religion - heck, I'd bet most don't. I'm suspicious given the recent pattern, but let's go with facts as they emerge over assumption.
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...that we have a serious culture-of-crazy-people-willing-to-kill-over-nothing problem; unfortunately, it's too politically useful to interpret it as a "gun problem".
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Are you sure you're not confusing the word "justifiable" with "understandable"? This is a very common thing to do.
For this UCLA incident, I'm not sure many people would say it's either one, but riots are a different story.
Political/socioeconomic-related riots are rarely a measure of first resort. We only think this way, because the riot itself is what makes the big headlines. But riots are usually triggered in a society that already have problems, and a singular event ended up being the one that broke the camels back which triggered the riots.
Is the violence justifiable in these riots? Is it acceptable to smash and loot local businesses because of a grievance with police or politicians? No. But it's certainly understandable that these things can happen.
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
We in America are only now really seeing what Islam really is... We will see more crimes like this from Muslims. Look at the UK and Germany, where it's now illegal to call this stuff out or face charges of hate speech.
You do realize there are over 3 million Muslims in the United States, right?
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There is more violence in Venezuela than in the US, even with guns banned. It's not so simple.
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1% of the population in the us vs 5% of the population in the uk, that's a big difference. That said I don't think muslim is the problem here. It's just a shield to hide their own personal violence behind.
No. One must only look at Chicago, the nation's third-largest city, which, by and by, has the strictest gun laws of any major US city. This past weekend there were 69 people shot, 6 of whom died. If you outlaw guns only outlaws will have them.
Is the lunatic we're dealing with here YOU?
What on earth exactly is the value of your subjective judgements in this case?
What is your goal? What is the point?
There are a few religions with their own country that have seats in the UN, but Islam isn't one of them.
And there are some people that will lie, cheat, steal, and hurt you, but hey don't exclusively belong to any group. They are mixed in among everyone and the most dangerous ones are the ones that wear the same clothes as you.
It's because they do that sideways shooting shit. Can't hit the broadside of a barn.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
If something is understandable, it is justified by definition (IMHO). I do not understand rioting, looting as a form of protest. I understand that others find it understandable, but I find it completely horrific. There is NO justification that supports rioting in protest, because that solves NOTHING, and so, I don't understand it. I do understand people are frustrated, often exceedingly so. If that is a explanation that is understandable, that is itself tacit or implicit acceptance that rioting is a solution.
Now, if you're like me, rioting is not a solution for anything. It doesn't solve any problem, it doesn't bring the kind of attention that can solve problems. Rioting is simply a temper tantrum, and I refuse to give power to people having tantrums. Period.
I'll even go one step further, I've heard those supporting Rioting in every case I mentioned, as saying "at least it is bringing attention to _______ problem". THAT is also justification. "Trump is a racist, we're rioting to bring attention to the fact that Trump is a racist", and some people may nod their head in agreement that Trump is a racist, and give "understanding" to the riots, and not condemn it at all, they infact have given tacit and implicit support for rioting.
So, I am NOT confusing Justifiable and understanding. The first step in justification is creating a understandable reason why it happens. And what I know about humans, is we are very capable of justifying some of the most horrific crimes imaginable, because of our "understanding" (which is terribly flawed). So, no, I don't want to "understand" why people do horrific things, except to prevent it from happening again. And the only way that happens is if I condemn the action even if I support the cause. For the ends do not justify the means. EVER .
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Muslims don't look so violent if you consider the other causes, like political unrest, foreign forces occupation, wars, etc. Borders also are more relevant as cause of violence in Muslim countries than religion, just compare their violence rates with those of the countries with border disputes.
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Is it justifiable to take the life of some one who is guilty of destroying your livelihood?
Or we could just rant and rave about an issue in which the facts are purposefully being withheld and censored by the government to give the media time to spin this the right way (it's not a white shooter this time after all)
Not really a coincidence. Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor. It's one thing Muslim men take seriously.
So do Texans, you don't see calls to build a wall around Texas every time someone gets killed in a bar fight.
Look at the number of girls killed by their own fathers because of perceived honor.
And in those cases there is a clear religious/cultural motive.
This is nothing new. We in America are only now really seeing what Islam really is. I was in and around the US military for 26 years. One thing I know for absolute certain that is not being discussed is that Islam is not really a religion--it's a political system with a religious element. Islam and its adherents base their actions on Sharia Law. Full stop. The media is very, very reluctant to point this out.
Isn't the US having a big debate about gay marriage? There seems to be a lot of arguments popping up based on Christian law.
Sure most Islamic nations take it a bit further, as do many Muslims. There's also a lot of Muslims trying to go the other way as well.
Notice the difference between how Islam and Christianity are treated today in the US. Ask yourself this question: What do you think homosexual activists are not asking Muslim bakers to bake them a cake for their weddings? Do you honestly think that this line of action would even be considered? There answer is no.
Those activists are trying to change laws and establish new norms. You do that by confronting the majority, not by picking fights with a small politically irrelevant minority.
For those not believing what I said above about Islam being a political system with a religious element need to look at this for themselves. You will come to see I am correct. The military used to operate under this understanding, but the current administration has forbidden this. Why? We all know why. This administration does nothing but coddle Islam, refuses to use the term "Islamic terrorism", allows a known terrorist organization, the Muslim Brotherhood into the WH, the list goes on.
They're trying to end fights, not start them.
You're basing this whole idea on speculation around the shooter's specific beliefs and motives, truthfully we have no idea of his specific motives or beliefs aside from the fact he probably agreed that the label "Muslim" described some of them.
Of course having that label "Muslim" I'm certain that a particular political candidate won't be able to keep their mouth shut.
I stole this Sig
This guy had a kill list. The professor didn't push this guy over the edge. He was already crazy.
given the evidence, I'd pretty much ignore anything he said without a heck of a lot of corroborating evidence.
So, I see you work for the MPAA.
Except that the shooter is most likely not muslim. *Sigh* Sarkar is a common bengali surname, and most likely hindu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Your unjustified rant sounds like a classic case of: http://imgur.com/t75V7oe
OMG OMG OMGZZZ!!!111!!!111 THE MOOZLEMS ARE AFTER US!!!! Oh wait....Maniac Sardar was a Hindu....how about we go back to talking about Harambe the gorilla?
Do they have a strong central government enforcing those laws, or are they "banned" in name only, and enforced only against.political enemies?
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Wow, these code reviews are murder....
Err, I mean, well, ah....I guess that's what I mean.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
You have two choices, take it in the ass like a bitch whore, or go on a rampage to bring attention to the cause.
Really? Those are your two choices? You can't think of anything less extreme than a shooting rampage?
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oh. hey. racism from an AC.
big surprise.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
In my day we took FORTRAN and COBOL together and we had some vicious fights over the keypunch stations too!
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So you know where he got the gun from?
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It will hopefully remain at 0 as it is misinformed at best. No Islam isn't what cause this, local customs are.
Bullshit. As someone else said, "Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas", and they were spot-on.
Islam demands brutal retribution for the most ridiculous, insignificant things, and there's no wiggle room.
Infidels? They gotta die, period.
Blasphemers? They gotta die, period.
Apostates? They gotta die, period.
Adulterers? They gotta die, period.
Insult Allah or Mohammed? You gotta die, period.
Draw a picture of Mohammed? You gotta die, period.
Eat pork? You gotta die, period.
Throw the Koran on the floor? You gotta die, period.
Deny Allah in any way? You gotta die, period.
Bandits, i.e., al-muhaarib, the one who wages war against Allaah? They gotta die, period.
Spying? Spies gotta die, period.
Homosexuality? You gotta die, period.
Drug offenses? You gotta die, period.
Practicing sorcery or witchcraft? You gotta die, period.
On the other hand, marry and rape a 6-year old? That's okay.
Use a toddler for "thighing"? That's okay.
Beat your wife? That's okay.
Don't believe me? Great, don't take my word for it- look it up and see for yourself.
Maybe Islam will have mellowed in another 1000 years, but by that time with any luck religion itself will be dead, and only studied by professors of Ancient History.
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Some guy in Massachusetts recently went on a knifing rampage and killed three people before an off-duty cop ended his killing spree by shooting him dead.
The best thing is it turns out he was insane, known to be insane, had turned himself into a hospital, but thanks to Obamneycare (remember, it's Massachusetts), was let go.
If any of his victims had been armed, or if he was able to get proper treatment, the tragedy wouldn't have happened.
Of course, no one knows about this because despite hitting the numbers required to technically be a "mass shooting" he used a knife. So the media buried it.
But not this story. Gee, wonder why?
As opposed to the 14,000 Americans shot and killed by Americans each year. Then there are the thousands shot and killed by law enforcement each year.
You do realize there are over 3 million Muslims in the United States, right?
And too many radicalized Conservatives think these peaceful Muslims, many of whom escaped hellholes to live here, are all out to get us.
We should ask where our Conservatives were radicalized in the same way we look into how some Muslims get radicalized. I'm pretty sure hate-radio, wingnut blogs, and Fox News are the cause.
Notice the difference between how Islam and Christianity are treated today in the US. Ask yourself this question: What do you think homosexual activists are not asking Muslim bakers to bake them a cake for their weddings?
You know who else they're not asking? Jews. Hindus. Buddhists. Sikhs. Taoists. Jains. Zoroastrians. Satanists. Wiccans.
Clearly it's not Muslims that are getting some special treatment here, it's Christians. But is it because of some hypothesized 'War on Christianity'?
Or is it the fact that 70.6% of the US population is some form of Christian, and another 22.8% is unaffiliated with any religion. That leaves 6.6% of the US population split across all of the world's various other religions. Indeed, only 0.9% of the US population adheres to Islam. We should expect 1 in every 111 targets of homosexual-activists-asking-people-to-bake-them-gay-cakes to be Muslim. Are you suggesting that you're aware of this many such events, as well as the religious leanings of every baker targeted this way?
Of course, these estimates assume uniform distribution of religious minorities, gay activists, and homophobic bakers. If you actually had the demographic data to not rely on such a simplistic assumption, I wouldn't be surprised if the odds of targeting a Muslim baker were even lower-still (as I suspect that religious minorities are more well-represented in areas that are more tolerant, and that gay activists would be attempting this baking schtick in areas that are less tolerant).
But this is all conjecture. I fully grant that it's entirely possible that you're right and no gay rights activists are targeting Muslim bakers because Muslim bakers inspire such a profoundly deep fear in their enemies.
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Chicago is a favorite red herring of the gun nuts that relies on the reader being uninformed about Chicago.
So read.
and become informed:
a) Chicago proper is a rather small area, and guns very easy to get in the surrounding cities that make up the metro area
b) Chicago isn't even in the top 10 cities for gun violence. The cities that top that list are St Louis, Birmingham, New Orleans, and other red-state cities with far looser gun laws and higher gun availability.
c) Chicago's gun laws aren't the strictest of any major US city. in fact, by state law (GOP legislature), Chicago actually cannot pass any more gun laws than it already has
d) NYC's gun laws are even stricter than Chicagos. Its gun violence rate is also lower. This same pattern is repeated in several other gun control heavy cities.
e) http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
I don't know. I am not even sure if it is true that guns are banned in Venezuela. Anyway, Venezuela is a Third World country, I can't even understand why AC brought it to this discussion as an example, unless they wanted to weaken their own argument.
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current administration is trying to end fights and not start them? LOL
He once inserted random mutations into his code, just so he could have the experience of debugging.
He self-identifies as Muslim. Stop guessing.
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Keypunch stations? As in a mechanical punch? Sheesh. Kid, in my day we punched them by hand and we liked it that way. How are you supposed to have pride in it if you don't punch it yourself?
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I guess that's why you're still around right?
The US thankfully doesn't get the more unsavory Muslims from abroad in the numbers that Europe does. It's a lot harder to just walk to us. But this is one of the leading reasons they think the US hasn't seen the same or as many issues from Muslims here as they are seeing in Europe.
Islam is not a race. Being broadly anti-Muslim is bad, but not racism. Being critical of some parts of Islam (either how it's currently practiced in some areas, or some of its teachings) does not make you a racist either.
Examine even your most deeply held beliefs. Nobody is always right.
This has been a common accusation of graduate students.
When I look at the real work and insight behind many published papers, it seems that there is a pretty heavy number of professors who build their reputations on the ingenuity and effort of their graduate students.
It's one of the reasons I have a deep dislike of Academic Social Authority. It's not that I don't see the need for accredited authority in education, far from it, but rather that there seems to be little or no oversight to prevent abuses in the system other than program validation at the university level.
My $0.02 will always be worth more than your â0.02, so
Religious prejudice is not racism. It may well be bigotry (though that's not guaranteed) but it's not racism.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
You obviously have no idea about what it replaced.
For instance, the saying "an eye for an eye" means that you can ONLY take an eye if someone takes yours, instead of taking his or her life. That's an improvement.
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The point of gun control is to reduce the number of legal means to get a gun. If he stole it, then that shows "gun control" is working. If he got it legally, then "gun control" isn't working. But, rather than looking at facts, you prefer to rant on about how bad gun control is. Whether it's "bad" or "working" are orthogonal.
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Bullshit. Sarcar is a Hindu Surname
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Any political system is a way of looking at society and stating what's wrong and what's right. Thus every organized religion is also an ideology and nearly in every case a political system as well - Islam is no exception, it's the rule.
Just look at the Orthodox Church and the current patriarch Kyrill. He's wearing a Rolex not because he got it from God, but because he toes the official line of Putin. And saying US churches are not political is just silly. Or go to Ireland or Spain to see how much influence the Catholic religion has. Or to Uganda, where Christian US preachers have been instrumental in almost getting the death penalty imposed on gays, and banning contraception. A-political, my ass. There is no such thing as an a-political religion.
There are ofcourse a-political followers who don't need to impose their own views on others. That's just a sign of an ideology on the way out, and not inherent in any ideology that takes itself serious.
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Except he wasn't Muslim... https://www.everipedia.com/mai... His name is distinctly Hindu.
You clearly haven't realized how reactionary Slashdot has gotten since the smart people left.
Thanks...
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Interesting, the license file was added 29 days ago, on a 2 year old project; nothing to see here!
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Engineering seems to be the one high status profession that the oppressed are able to get into (If you are a Palestinian refugee in a camp you are not going to become a doctor or a lawyer or even if you become one you are not going to be able to practice in the US as these professions are very protectionist). Yasser Arafat was a civil Engineer.
Also the people who gravitate towards engineering and programming (similar but not identical professions) are people who can concentrate for long periods of time without needing human interaction. This means anti-social folks who hate human interaction and humans in general can be very good engineering students.
So I am not surprised an Engineer took out another Engineer especially when he believe that the other Engineer had committed the cardinal sin of Academia - stealing credit. (Funnily enough VCs do this all the time. Some startup will come and give a demo. They wont fund them but take the code and give it to another startup which they do fund because their gut tells them the other startup has a better chance of executing to success)
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I'll tell you the primary power difference between Christianity and Islam:
1) Jesus said, "Render to Caesar what is Caesar and to God what is God's". This cleaves the core religion from government. Jesus was a single, poor itinerant preacher who was crucified between thieves. One can be a good Christian and accept a separation of church and state.
2) Muhammad was a political and military leader who created a religion which also was a system of government. There can be no separation of church and state in Islam. One cannot be a good Muslim and accept a separation of mosque and state.
Henry VIII was sick of being pushed around by the Catholic Church, a competing power center to his own. So he formed the Anglican church and set himself as the head of it.
The Founders said, in the First Amendment, that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". They too understood organized religion as a competing power center and knew not to allow one to spread its roots to take hold of the government. Such a dichotomy is nonsensical in Islam.
Typically when you're angry enough to shoot someone the anger is at least in your own head justified. If the professor didn't steal it, then the shooter most likely at least thinks he did.
OK if I am the govt and I needed to disappear a few researchers for a top secret project (and one of them insists on taking his girlfriend along) how would I do it?
Well telling that one shot the other and killed himself would be a good way. Has anyone even seen the bodies? Putting a campus on lockdown is a good way to make sure noone sees the gvot leaving with the guys.
And then of course you create a soical media back history to paint it as a crazy. But there the govt slipped up by putting up Sarcar's profile as a Muslim. Sarcar is a bengali Surname and probably the intern at the *ia tasked to create the profile just went with Muslim as most Bangladeshis are Muslim but Sarcar is a Hindu surname.
OK guys how do you like this conspiracy theory. Please find holes in it
**Life is too short to be serious**
Islam demands men seek retribution for their honor.
No, it doesn't (you're welcome to cite Koran or hadith demonstrating otherwise).
Honor killings are not a part of Islamic culture. They're a part of traditional culture in some (not all) countries that happen to be majority Islamic. However, practitioners of other religions in those same cultures, including Christians, also partake in honor killings.
Europe is not a monolithic entity when it comes to gun control. There are countries with extremely restrictive policies, such as UK; countries with considerable regulation, but where owning a firearm (even a semi-auto or a handgun) as a civilian is relatively easy, like Germany; and countries which allow both "assault weapons" and concealed carry of handguns, like Czech Republic.
And when you look at those countries, there doesn't seem to be any correlation between their degree of gun control, and violent crime rates.
OTOH, what they do have in common is fairly stringent universal background checks for firearm owners.
I like your Boxes comment except that Academia is not a liberal Democracy. its pretty much an oligarchy with those who came earlier controlling the journals (soapbox), appointments based on seniority and connections (no ballot box elections), College review committee staffed by peers of the professors you are complaining about (so much for an impartial Jury). That does leave only the Ammo box. Of course most dont go that route. Instead they decide to go the CSA way and seced. They breakaway from Academia and go create companies or work for companies. Fortunately academics are not as hardass as the USA about secession.
**Life is too short to be serious**
Why are you assuming that anyone who would take justice into their own hands is deranged?
Because of a programmed response. What is the point of commenting if you aren't taking this opportunity to flesh out your ideas of morality? Is this just some kind of morbid entertainment to you?
What about the possibility of the law protecting injustice?
When is it justified to take life in general?
There is a severe lack of critical thought on your part.
"Muslims don't look so violent if you consider the other causes, like political unrest, foreign forces occupation, wars, etc"
They blow us up, we retaliate, and they yell "War! Occupation!"
So why did they hate us before 9/11 and before we objected to Iraq seizing Kuwait? In those days our foreign policy in the ME consisted of shoveling vast sums of money into their oil coffers with zero effort on their part required. No having to rebuild a whole manufacturing infrastructure from radioactive ashes, like Japan. Everybody else in the world wishes they could be 'colonized' in that way.
Gosh, the name "semiautomatic" pistol just had to be mentioned in order to distinguish this evil type of weapon from say a bolt action or pump action pistols.. Saying semiautomatic pistol is like saying a "road car".
IMHO, the age of University is quickly dying. While it will likely never completely disappear, the structure is likely to really be different in the next 40 years. The whole world's knowledge is at our fingertips, all we have to do is look. Do not let school get in the way of your education.
Today, I've learned a little bit about AstroPhysics, Biology, Philosophy, and a tad about History. Yesterday, I learned something about cooking, gardening, and health/wellness.
I've learned more in the last year, than I did in four years of college. Because I am not prescribed a schedule of study, I can study a much broader scope, and as deep of a level as I want, on topics that interests me, than the university I attended 30 years ago could provide. There is NO piece of paper that can show what I know, because all that represents is a stagnate single point of time.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
that mental illness is a medical issue. our society is neglecting its own people which always has tragic results.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
EVEN if he did, which by all accounts seems highly unlikely -- reports are this guy was a mediocre grad student at best -- last I checked theft of that level isn't a death penalty offense...
And what does 'passions must still be considered' mean? That it's ok to murder someone because you are emotionally unstable and have poor impulse control over a perceived wrong doing that in no way threatened your life? I don't get where you're going with this...
'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
Shooter thinks shootee "stole" his code. And you dipshits are actually talking about open source licenses, whether or not the shooter's code was "stolen", etc etc etc.
The issue is this asshat decided to shoot his professor. Period. He had no right to do so. He did have a right to go to his college administration. He did have a right to go to the courts. He did not use those rights. Looks like he also shot some woman in another state, then drove to UCLA to shoot the other guy.
Relevant facts? Some asshole shot 1, maybe 2 innocent people. Asshole had other options to redress his grievances, which he did not use.
Asshole's name should be erased from history, except when you're googling extreme assholes.
Looks like the sings weren't big enough for him to read. Gun Free Zone means NO GUNS allowed. These signs have stopped SO MANY shootings lately.
The Truth is a Virus!!!
Too bad you're wrong because you obviously haven't got a fucking clue as to what's going on.
Which wouldn't be so bad in and of itself except for that you think you can predict shit is what makes it so shameful.
It's true: murdered people often did something to end up that way.
We (USA) did massive damage in the Mid-East long before 911. We sustained the Shah to get oil, we backed the creation ex nihilo of Israel, among other things. In more recent times, our cultural influence from Hollywood and music is easily viewed as an attack (we may not have intended it, but we were massively disruptive in many parts of the world with our mass media). We (USA) are largely seen as the successors to the British and the abuses of the colonial system. If a person believes that sons should answer for the sins of their fathers, it's easy to justify a 911 attack. And now we are a part of the mess that has been raging for centuries.
"We (USA) did massive damage in the Mid-East long before 911. "
Bunk. We supported existing governments, dictatorial or otherwise, in the time of OPEC's greatest power. Later we tried overthrowing dictators, but the perpetually aroused decided that was wrong too. So which should we be - pro or anti the extant governments of countries we trade with?
After WW II the whole free world supported creating Israel, in the place where Jews had lived since Abraham, so there is nothing peculiarly American to blame in that area. And no, we were in no way "colonial successors to the British." It was we who supported the breakup of colonial empires after WW II.
Sorry, psychos. You attack us when you see a weakness because that's what you do. Next year you will be dealing with either Hillary or Donald. Enjoy.
He's a Muslim from India. -- His name is a bengali name from India and not a Muslim. Not that being a muslim would have made a difference. You should not post statements about things where you don't know sh*t.
Try to read before posting - it helps.
Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
Why are you assuming what this obviously deranged person said actually represents the facts?
Did somebody quote Trump?
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
I have a friend, a post doc, he's a really nice guy, very bright. His parents bought him a fake passport (the FBI knows and meets with him regularly, but allows him to stay in the country for various reasons) so that he could escape the hellhole he was in... you see, he is the eldest son and to them, that means something. He is Muslim... but not 'that kind of muslim' (his words)... Just as all Christians are not right wing nut jobs, all Muslims are not the same either. The OP in this thread is probably right 51% of the time, but that other 49%?? well, that is why prejudice is a bad idea. At least with my friend, he is not in that 51% the OP speaks of. Let's not label everyone based on the actions of some. (Disclaimer: "Some" here might include 100% of the people from one organization or another, but does NOT include 100% of all people of that faith)
My not responding to your flame is in no way indicative of my submission to your statement, it just means I don't have t
How does one bake a "Gay Cake?" is that a happy cake? or a cake that loves other cakes?
My not responding to your flame is in no way indicative of my submission to your statement, it just means I don't have t
yes, the FBI statistics show a lot of things, but most persons don't look at that level of data, unfortunately.
My not responding to your flame is in no way indicative of my submission to your statement, it just means I don't have t
I have been a grad student... my profs all 'stole my work' and the 'generous' ones then would list my name on some of the papers they had me write for them as one of the authors... though of course, they listed themselves first as lead author, my name was way down at the bottom of the list... sometimes as a 'contributor'... When I had written the damn thing. Welcome to Grad School, if you are a research Assistant, the Prof gets the credit for your work. That is the way it works. At least at the school I went to and the other school my brother went to... though admittedly we both were in the same field.
My not responding to your flame is in no way indicative of my submission to your statement, it just means I don't have t
People rioting usually feel just in their actions, which is why they are rioting. By explaining their justification, you're giving tacit approval for that justification, especially if you also do not condemn it. News Reporting today "Trump needs to control his rhetoric to stop the violence", where those acting violently are protesting Trump. How is TRUMP responsible for the riots? It isn't HIS supporters rioting, is it? Trump's words are inciting violence, but not by his supporters.
Mind you, I do NOT like Trump, and will not be voting for him, however, blaming him for the riots of those protesting him is like blaming the girl because she asked to be raped with her clothing choices. No girl deserves to be raped, ever. Not even slutty tramps. Explaining it "She was wearing see through clothes" excuses the rapist at least partially. That "explanation" itself is a form of justification, where none should exist.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Condemnation without understanding is one of the crimes humans are also capable of
I do not need to understand anti-Semitism to condemn it. I do not need to understand beheadings to condemn it. I don't care what people believe*, but I can condemn violent acts without needing to understand them.
While I would suggest to you, that I can see your thousands of shades of grey you're trying to paint with, without a line somewhere, you have no position to hold.
*I don't care that the KKK exists. Let the bigots be bigots. The moment I care is when they hang a dude because of the skin color, or burn a cross on someone else's property or otherwise cause harm to someone. And then I am all for a response. But if they want to march, try to collect more people, that is all fine and good. I would HOPE that my ability to use logic, reason and oratory skills would be able to convince more people that being a bigot is stupid. And if I can't, no amount of force justifies making bigots silent. Remember, I am a Libertarian, and liberty means freedom of thought, freedom of speech, even that which I detest.
Anything less is exactly the excuse tyrants use control their citizenry.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Not at all. I'm almost 100% sure he didn't use the Soapbox, ballot box, Jury box, and went straight for the ammo box. Shortcuts in life rarely work out well ;)
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Boxes: Soap, Ballot, Jury, Ammo
The two choices are dichotomy based on the previous point "(assuming he reported it, and they all said "tough shit" or similar)"
He skipped at least one, probably all three boxes before Ammo. As far as I know, he didn't sue the professor and a jury didn't say "tough shit" (or similar)
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Even if you chose vigilantism, at no point would the penalty for IP infringement be "death". At least, not to a balanced individual.
W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
> If something is understandable, it is justified by definition (IMHO).
Entirely and completely wrong. Understanding why things happen do not give those things justification.
> Now, if you're like me, rioting is not a solution for anything. It doesn't solve any problem, it doesn't bring the kind of attention that can solve problems. Rioting is simply a temper tantrum, and I refuse to give power to people having tantrums. Period
I'm not saying you should. I'm saying it helps more to understand why the riots occurred in the first place in order to prevent them from happening again. Not always, but usually, riots are not isolated events, but are the results of an accumulation of issues and problems. Yes, people are angry, and that anger led them to riot. So understanding why they were angry in the first place is a good thing.
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
Islam is not a race. Being broadly anti-Muslim is bad, but not racism. Being critical of some parts of Islam (either how it's currently practiced in some areas, or some of its teachings) does not make you a racist either.
True, but there'd be a lot less anti-Muslim rhetoric if only all those people weren't brown.
That's the difference in theory, but not in practice.
911 itself was done for a very specific reason at least according to the people who did it. It was done as revenge against the US for supplying Israel with bombs that were used in the bombing of Beirut in the mid 80's. We had put ourselves inside an old war between the Jewish state and the Muslim world - which is why an attack had long been predicted..
The disaster in the aftermath of the invasion of Iraq was a totally unnecessary and self inflicted wound. A wound which made the US and the UK the targets of hate and revenge for millions of Muslims around the world .. and which inspired the radicalism which gave us the 'gift' of ISIS. (Not mentioning Obama's and Cameron's role in its creation.)
What kind of beast is Islamic terrorism? the dimwits in charge are still treating it like a dragon - its not a dragon its a hydra. Cut off each head and you get another or two more.. Each Jihadi who dies radicalises and inspires the next, a religion inspired by revenge. So how do you beat radical Islam? only really two ways, either compromise or total annihilation.. The only other option is continuing wars and more terrorism probably on-going indefinitely. Me, I'm interested in seeing what monstrosity comes after ISIS.
Below the speed of light Special Relativity is one of the most accurate theories in physics - above the speed of light..
No, al Qaeda's own rationale for the attack, expressed at the time, was the stationing of US troops on Saudi soil during the Gulf War. Western leftists love to blame all the troubles of the region on Zee Chews, but in reality other Arabs care little for the Palestinians. Why else would countries like Dubai and Qatar keep exploiting them as cheap disposable labor?
Annihilation is one option, but I don't see how we can 'compromise' with a people whose only goal is to finish the job of engulfing Western culture that they were prevented from doing at Tours and Vienna centuries ago. The only other option I can see is to seal off their world from ours - no trade, no visitation, no interaction of any kind - and let the Ummah sort out its culture in its own way.
Sarkar is Brahmin.
Brahmin are racist by birth.
Expel Brahmin from USA.
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I am with John Lennon on this the sooner all religions are banished the better as they always have fanatics somewhere and these can be Christian or Muslim or any other religion. What worries me is the human race generally has a set of people who need to take any belief to an extreme. I am thinking football hooligans, O/S fanbois etc. As a race, if we don't sort this out we are doomed to extinction. And no, I don't know what the answer, is but there must be some way of identifying the potential extremists and getting them out of the genome! Siv
Martley, Near Worcester UK.
Over-generalization is always a bad idea. ;)
Hah!
Ezekiel 23:20