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Fake Gaming Torrents Download Unwanted Apps Instead of Popular Games (helpnetsecurity.com)

Reader Orome1 writes: If you're looking for torrents to download pirated copies of popular games, be extra careful not to be tricked into downloading malicious and unwanted software instead. According to Symantec researchers, who have been trawling popular torrent websites, there's an active distribution campaign going on that delivers potentially unwanted apps posing as torrents for games like Assassin's Creed Syndicate, The Witcher 3, World of Warcraft: Legion, The Walking Dead: Michonne, and several others. At first glance, the torrent does not seem suspicious -- its size is as small as expected from a torrent file. After saying "Yes" to the UAC security dialogue that asks if they are sure they want to allow the program to make changes to the computer, users end up with a file downloaded from a Google Drive -- a file that is considerably larger than a torrent file (around 3.5 MB) and is obviously an executable.

92 comments

  1. Old News by HumanWiki · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not even close to a new concept and has been done since back in the days of KaZaa, eMule, Napster, Morpheus, etc.

    1. Re:Old News by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

      Everything old is new again.

    2. Re:Old News by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Even older then that. This was happening back in the 90's when usenet was the main source of downloading everything.

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    3. Re:Old News by dunkindave · · Score: 1

      Everything old is new again.

      Well, since everything "new" seems to be old, that makes sense.

    4. Re:Old News by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      the uac popup comes after. and its an origin popup.

      should be obvious.

      once its local exe running an actual uac might pop up,.. but actual local already running code can get around uac shockingly easily. because disabling it getting around it easily(by disabling scheduler etc, services) breaks "core" windows mechanisms. and it can still get around emet..

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    5. Re:Old News by RogueyWon · · Score: 1

      I can remember having to cleanse the computer of a friend of my parents who had been downloading warez back in 1998. Since then, attempted piracy (albeit not just of games) has been one of the most common causes I've come across of malware infections. Not only are the torrents themselves often laden with malware, but the sites hosting those torrents are also highly likely to be running malware-pushing javascript.

      More irritatingly, I've also noted a growing trend towards legal mods for games being used as a malware vector. World of Warcraft has had particular problems with this in the past (and may still have them for all I know); entirely legal and EULA-compliant UI modifications being distributed with malware designed to steal login details.

    6. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've also noted a growing trend towards legal mods for games being used as a malware vector

      Stuff like that happens everywhere. Evil Eve asks Add-on Author Alice for control of an addon that has a few thousand downloads but hasn't really been used in years. Might even offer a few hundred bucks for it. Alice sells Eve the addon and suddenly a new version comes out that autoupdates on the few hundred browsers that still had the addon installed, and now those people are wondering where the ads in every page and attempts to steal bank logins are coming from.

    7. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's only old news to sane people in the real world. The editor scripts on /. are not real people, hence the utter drivel that's posted on a site aimed at the technically competent.

    8. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And most torrent sites have trusted, untrusted and vip uploaders anway. Want something good? Wait for a trusted account to upload a torrent. Want the current rootkit used script kiddies and russian botnets? Download the first available torrent by autogeneratedUser123. While this still requires that at least some people check torrents by new users it reduces the impact of spam downloads quite a bit.

    9. Re:Old News by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      And on countless BBSes in the late 80s and early 90s. The term "Trojan Horse" has some age to it as well, I hear it may have been coined a few years before the invention of the computer.

    10. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If anything the headline should be studios leaking infected versions of their own games. Except the infection is your avatar has a rainbow wig and shoots a Hello Kitty rifle, convincing news sites that the game can tell if it was pirated.

      That's an ancient phenomenon too, though. But one more reason to not run a no-name's executable. Besides the wig and rifle, they should whitehat a little and make the player character say "This extra speech bubble could've been a trojan, you know."

    11. Re:Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you.

      This issues isn't even close to new. There's always been a serious risk with any pirated software. It's a risk to run it, but I feel it's becoming more of an issue due to the end users being a lot more sloppy than they used to be.

      Folks got hit by malware in the 90's and 00's, sure, but they were a lot more tech savvy. Nowadays, the UAC popup is seen as a nuisance rather than an actual *warning* that something is about to install/change your system.

      The best solution, albeit not a popular one, is to no run illegal software. Buy it legitimately, and you're good. If you can't afford it, then wait until it goes on sale on Steam or GOG or something.

      Just my $0.02.

    12. Re:Old News by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      It really makes no sense any more though, why bother a little bit of patience and http://whenisthenextsteamsale...., you end up with games you have bought and simply don't get around to playing because, so, so many games and so little time (let alone the time vacuum of free to play MMOs). No hurry to buy new games because there are so many old games I have yet to play. It's like kids stealing stuff, just to steal stuff, even though they just throw it away (the pleasure of the risk over any value from the reward).

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    13. Re:Old News by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Well you gotta keep in mind that back in the 90's when you were a kid and broke you pirated because you wanted to play games. Then you got a job, went to school(picked a good career path and were rewarded later), were still broke, occasionally pirated when you could and played the occasional game. Now you're in your 30's and 40's(some 50's), you've got free time, wife/kids/SO/etc., they may or may not be a gamer as well. But they're fine with your hobby because they've got their own. And you spend some of your money maybe $500/year on gaming. Now there's an entire new generation of kids out there doing the same things you used to do, for some it's tougher finding work because there's also a lot of those people who didn't pick a good career path and are stuck doing the jobs teenagers used to do. But it's the same old stuff.

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    14. Re:Old News by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Here you go, http://store.steampowered.com/.... When I was young $5 would only get you shareware crap, games have not changed that much in price, the majority are pretty much at the same price they used to be and for the price of a new release you can buy a bunch of other games. Some of the really cheap games are really good, just old and don't sell any more. Seriously not worth taking the risk running an exe from an unkown source, when the starting price is 99 cents. Patience can save you a lot of money.

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    15. Re: Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the UK we had a big market for budget games back in the 80s. Mastertronic and Firebird, among others, put out good games for £1.99. Piracy was common enough, particularly going in to the 16-bit era, but it was safer because it was smaller scale. You weren't downloading from a random source - you were obtaining a disk from someone you knew. Still not 100% safe, but safer than now. For one thing, you didn't have years of your life stored on a big drive. I wouldn't touch torrents for executables. Maybe a well established torrent for abandonware, running in a VM, but that's it.

      You can't stick your dick in random holes and act surprised when on day it turns green.

  2. What has become of this world? by narcc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Downloading software from shady online sources is suddenly risky? Say it isn't so!

    1. Re:What has become of this world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has always been the case. With the advent of Steam, why bother downloading illegally? Just wait til the game goes on sale if you can't afford full price, well at least where Steam and a particular game are available anyways.

    2. Re: What has become of this world? by MadChicken · · Score: 1

      I was just thinking this. I have hundreds of games from sales and bundles, many of which I haven't even touched.

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    3. Re: What has become of this world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I currently live in China. As such, some titles are not available on Steam. Metal Gear Solid V, Dead Space 3, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Bionic Commando Reloaded, just to name a few. So, I pirated them.

  3. In other news in 1996.... by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

    ....Gay porn masquerading as movies on Kazaa...?!?!?! GASP!

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    1. Re:In other news in 1996.... by Falos · · Score: 1

      This isn't Toy Story at all!

      Oh wait, the studio actually named this clip "Toy Stories". Huh.

    2. Re:In other news in 1996.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or even child porn masquerading as normal porn. You see, I have several hundred gigs of porn I haven't yet seen despite having them on my disk for many years. And one movie turned out to be kiddie stuff.

      Thus, it is VITAL: you need to go view your entire porn collection NOW. Not just the beginnings, kiddie porn might start only in the middle of a legit flick, thus you need to watch your whole stash in its entirety. Your ass may depend on this!

  4. Where's the "noshit" tag when you need it? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> Fake {Software/Media} Download(s) Unwanted Apps Instead of Promised {Software/Media}

    Where's the "noshit" tag when you need it? This has been going on since the bulletin boards and floppy exchanges, if not longer.

    A brain-dead presser like this make me wonder if anyone at Symantec even remembers Anna Kournikova.

  5. Don't be dumb by just+another+AC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But that Nigerian prince seemed so nice!

    People on the internet will try to take advantage of you. I am shocked.

    (and this was the number one infection vector in the 90s... so this being news is like a patent being new because it is "in the cloud")

    1. Re:Don't be dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it isn't even new with Torrents, either. This is not news at all. Slow news day?

  6. OH NO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IS IT REALLY TRUE? Think of the children!

  7. Used to happen on a P2P thing with movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried several times on Kazaa I think to download Reign of Fire

    I kept ending up with Dude, Where's my Car

    Unfortunately, when I finally found Reign of Fire, it turned out to be only marginally better than Dude, Where's my Car

  8. What's not suspicious about that? by Lendrick · · Score: 1

    So you're saying that people are getting torrents of games, and then the total size of the file downloaded is only a few *megabytes*? That's not just "suspicious", it's obviously not the game you intended to download.

    1. Re: What's not suspicious about that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is referencing actual torrent file, not the files you download after initiation. Windows problem at any rate.

    2. Re: What's not suspicious about that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actual torrent file is NOT A FUCKING EXE. How stupid can you be?

    3. Re: What's not suspicious about that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actual .torrent is an actual pointer file, so it is linking .exe, obviously.

    4. Re:What's not suspicious about that? by Blue+Stone · · Score: 1

      Badly worded snippet, really. What they mean is the .torrent file, not the size of the actual torrented data to torrent file points to.

      The confusing terminology (to someone unfamiliar with the protocol) has been a (minor) problem with torrents from the beginning.

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    5. Re:What's not suspicious about that? by Qzukk · · Score: 2

      So now people are clicking on boobs.jpg.doc.wmv.torrent.exe?

      It's Windows 10, has microsoft stopped hiding the .exe extension yet?

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  9. Why would a torrent trigger UAC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At first glance, the torrent does not seem suspicious -- its size is as small as expected from a torrent file. After saying "Yes" to the UAC security dialogue [...]

    What UAC security dialog? I download a torrent, open it with my preferred torrent client, and bob's your uncle. UAC isn't gonna get involved until the torrent finishes and I execute whatever file the torrent downloaded.

    1. Re:Why would a torrent trigger UAC? by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      It sounds like it's not really a torrent, but that the file it does download tries to get you to download a separate EXE which then elevates itself to install the unwanted software. OR the article is wrong and there is no UAC dialog (they show an Internet Explorer download dialog).

    2. Re:Why would a torrent trigger UAC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are these "UAC" and "EXE" things you refer to? I'm confused.

    3. Re:Why would a torrent trigger UAC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are stopgap measures used instead of having an actually secure OS.

  10. At least you kids get instant acccess by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    back in the day we had to wait for the modem to dial up while watching the snow fall outside so we can get our virus spreading keygens from Astalavista.

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  11. Re:That's what you get for piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You fuckers who pirate software deserve exactly what you're getting here.

    If that's all we deserve, then you must not think piracy is so bad! All we're "getting here" is 1. Hover mouse cursor over link. 2. Notice "say, that's not a magnet link!" 3. Decide not to click it because it's obviously not what we wanted. See? There's nothing to it. By being so obviously bad, this situation is actually improving the signal to noise ratio. Does that piss in your cornflakes too?

    Incidentally places like ThePirateBay have moderators who routinely delete this sort of thing. That particular site has enough of them that they're not accepting new ones.

  12. Hmm by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not clear to me how it goes from being a torrent file to a file downloaded from Google Drive. My only guess is it's not a torrent file but a .url file which lniks to the .exe mentioned. And this is incredibly easy to detect simply by knowing what you're expecting to get, and aborting when you see something unexpected (eg it's not actually a torrent file. the "torrent" didn't download what I expected, what it actually downloaded is incredibly suspicious). There are multiple opportunities to avoid getting infected, including the UAC dialog mentioned which should be a HUGE red flag.

    1. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not clear to me how it goes from being a torrent file to a file downloaded from Google Drive. My only guess is it's not a torrent file but a .url file which lniks to the .exe mentioned. And this is incredibly easy to detect simply by knowing what you're expecting to get, and aborting when you see something unexpected (eg it's not actually a torrent file. the "torrent" didn't download what I expected, what it actually downloaded is incredibly suspicious). There are multiple opportunities to avoid getting infected, including the UAC dialog mentioned which should be a HUGE red flag.

      Besides .torrent files for pirated content are on the decline. Many major torrent sites use magnet links. There's nothing to download and "run".

      To "run" a downloaded file is one of those silly Windows conventions. On Linux, the browser will open the torrent client and the downloaded .torrent file is fed to it as data. Linux doesn't ask the OS to "run" the file and handle this. On Linux if you tried this with an executable binary or a shell script, the torrent client would simply complain that it's not a valid torrent file. That's if you could get the user to download such an obviously suspicious file in the first place.

    2. Re:Hmm by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      What are these ".exe" and "UAC" things you refer to? I'm confused...

      Go back to bed Grandpa. Your horse and buggy will be here in the morning to take you back to the plantation.

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    3. Re:Hmm by Alumoi · · Score: 1

      On Linux, the browser will open the torrent client and the downloaded .torrent file is fed to it as data.

      Newsflash! It's the same on windows.

    4. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically everything in your post is incorrect.

      The browser inspects the metadata to see what type the file it claims to be. Then it basically uses a lookup table to determine which program to open. Most of that lookup table says "do whatever the OS does" which means it'll ask the OS to run the file. When the OS runs it, it checks the metadata (On Linux it inspects the file. On Windows it looks at the extension.) and then uses its own lookup table to determine which program to run and how to pass the data in.

      With an executable hiding as movie.torrent on Linux, the torrent client would never open. The browser will ask the OS to run it and the OS will complain that this executable isn't marked executable.
      With an executable hiding as movie.torrent on Windows, Windows would see it as a torrent file and thus start the torrent client. The client then complains that the file can't be properly parsed.
      With an executable hiding as movie.torrent.sh on Linux, nothing changes.
      With an executable hiding as movie.torrent.exe on Windows, Windows will see it as an executable and throw up a warning saying this executable was downloaded from an untrusted source so are you super sure you want to run it?

      You can't know what any online file or website actually is until you download or visit it. Google.com. Is that Google's home page or was it just hacked and filled with drive-by malware? Maybe your DNS entries have been modified and your Google.com isn't the same as my Google.com. The only way to know is to visit.

      Please don't post anymore on how computers work. You make Linux supporters look like idiots.

    5. Re:Hmm by silentcoder · · Score: 1

      In short though - the lack of an execute permission flag on Windows comes back to bite microsoft's customers yet again.

      On linux the file will not run without it, and when you notice it didn't run and go look - it should be pretty instantly obvious that it was not a magnet link but a script/executable and that should stop you from trying to run it unless you are pretty damn determined.

      Even with binmisc configured for wine it won't run a windows executable through wine without an execute bit set.

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  13. Re:That's what you get for piracy by Phusion · · Score: 0

    Hahahahaha Well, for one, the DRM that's included in a lot of games keeps us from backing anything up, secondly there aren't demos for these games anymore, so if we want to try before we buy, we're f'ed. If someone is dumb enough to actually get fooled into running malicious software, then yes, I suppose they deserve it, but don't pass judgement on the entirety of pirates because you have some stupid, outdated hangups about piracy. Chill out.

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  14. Safe hex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, you patronize digital whorehouses and don't practice safe hex? Didn't your papa ever have the talk with you?

    1. Re:Safe hex by bioteq · · Score: 1

      You, sir, owe me a new keyboard and carpet.

      I was enjoying this tea, too!

  15. Even headline is annoyingly "modern" for old story by flitty · · Score: 2

    They're not Unwanted "APPS", they're malware. You don't need to call everything an App. This story reads like someone who just found out that "unsubscribing" from spam is a bad idea. Also, you've got to be pretty, pretty dumb to run a 3.5 MB .exe file that calls itself "Witcher 3". Like, that's beginner level internet surfing 101.

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  16. This is news? by oldcarsmell · · Score: 1

    What you're describing is a very basic Trojan. Also, magnet links > .torrent files

  17. Never gonna give you up by MobyDisk · · Score: 2

    Never gonna give you up,
    Never gonna let you down,
    Never gonna run around...

    My favorite rick-roll of all time was when my brother bought a mod chip for his Nintendo DS, hacked it, installed the appropriate firmware, spent days downloading a torrent, went through a whole bunch of hacks and configuration steps, only to hear that amazing tune...

    1. Re:Never gonna give you up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At my wedding me and my wife danced to a classical waltz for about a minute before we invited the rest to join us on the dance floor. About 30 seconds later the projector that was until then only showing the name of the tune started showing a dashing young ginger in a trenchcoat.

  18. Re:That's what you get for piracy by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2
    So don't buy them. I stopped buying games for quite a few years because I wasn't willing to put up with the DRM that they included. I realised that if I pirated them, then I'd talk about them, which might lead other people to buy them, and so I'd be supporting the publishers, albeit indirectly.

    Then gog.com launched and now I have bought a load more games than I have time to play. I can download a stand-alone installer for any of them, which I can back up and install on any computer that I own without needing an Internet connection. There's simply no excuse for pirating games these days.

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  19. up to the minute news by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    I mean, it's not like this has been happening since the dawn of illegal downloads, when unscrupulous people were painting viruses on cave walls.

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  20. Internet deception - Ric Romero reporting. by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    It seems that sometimes things on the internet are not always what they seem. Occasionally clicking on a link for a free iPad can land you on a video made by performer Rick Astley in the 1980's.

    More on this later, now for a news item about a local resident named Bob who has made a living out of his love for feinting goats and how his raising of goats in the city limits has upset the city counsel.

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  21. World of Warcraft: Legion by Calydor · · Score: 1

    1) Not released
    2) Requires subscription to play
    3) Requires activation on battle.net

    Idiots get what idiots deserve by clicking on that link.

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    1. Re:World of Warcraft: Legion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Idiots deserve what they get for wanting to play a blizzard game I agree

      Look at this fuckin hot take right here. Much edge, very controversy, wow.

  22. honor among thieves? by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    I thought these so-called thieves were just misunderstood ... and ahead of their time ... and visitors from a future world where everyone understands the value of working for free to create things without taking advantage of each other?

    I guess they're just not organized enough. If the government simply nationalized this industry and distributed the games equally to all there wouldn't be these unregulated artifacts. Also, think about how amazing government-created games are ... Curt Schillings software and all.

    Alternatively ... maybe these pirates are bad guys who victimize others and themselves and indicators of the government heavy dystopia to come.

  23. Oh no, i traveled back in time... by hyperar · · Score: 1

    Why am i seeing this in the main page on 2016?

  24. For everyone confused by this... by Gibgezr · · Score: 2

    The "torrent file" that is downloaded is always a tiny file, it's a descriptor for the torrent you wish to join. It's like a URL (but it is not a URL). The way downloading torrents on Windows works is often:
    1)Download a "torrent file".
    2)Open the "torrent file", which causes Windows to do a file association, which has it open your torrent application and feed it the torrent file. You join the torrent swarm and start uploading/downloading.

    Step 2 is the weakness: if you download something purporting to be a torrent file that is instead an executable, you might mistakenly allow it to run when you open it. The UAC will kick in and warn you, but still, shit happens.

    1. Re:For everyone confused by this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows still hides extensions by default which is probably responsible for more infections that any other bad decision in the history of an OS.

      With extensions off there's no difference between "blah.torrent" and "blah.torrent.exe" and by the time you find that out it's already too late.

    2. Re:For everyone confused by this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extension hiding is not the problem. It's the retarded design that executes code based on a file suffix, rather than parsing the file's actual header first.

    3. Re:For everyone confused by this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not really going to improve the situation. If anything, it will make matters worse because even users with the know-how will not be able to immediately tell the difference between teensex.jpg and teensex.jpg.

    4. Re:For everyone confused by this... by wbo · · Score: 1

      No, there is still a difference. By default in Windows even with extensions off blah.torrent.exe will be listed as an "Application" type while blah.torrent will be listed as something else (by default "Torrent File" but could be different if an installed Torrent client customized the file type description).

      The problem is people blinding clicking on things without looking at what the OS is trying to tell them.

    5. Re:For everyone confused by this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? Isn't that how torrents worked 3+ years ago? Now you just click the magnetlink and your torrentprogram starts.

    6. Re:For everyone confused by this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why anyone still downloads the actual .torrent file I'll never know. Magnet links work excellently.

  25. This is braindead beyond compare by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    I mean you're at a torrent site, attempting to download a torrent file. Regardless of what button I press on the website, if I close my eyes and click in a random place on the screen and never confirm anything like the file size or the file type, who would be stupid enough to continue once a UAC prompt appears and your torrent application didn't open?

    I mean people who get tricked like this deserve to have their computer catch fire.

    1. Re:This is braindead beyond compare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who would be stupid enough to continue once a UAC prompt appears and your torrent application didn't open?

      People with brains use Linux.

  26. Serves 'em right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL - installing malware instead of the stolen software you wanted. Cry me a river! Pirates are scum.

  27. How horrible by smooth+wombat · · Score: 0

    People stealing games not getting what they thought and possibly getting a compromised system.

    Oh the humanity! Won't someone think of the thieves!

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    1. Re:How horrible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No "game" is missing, what is stolen?

      The reality is this "article" is made up by a site looking to sell a product. Hmmm, a bit above your limited intellect to work that out? Oh, I see, you didn't actually bother to read it, or the shit summary before commentarding. Perhaps someone should call the Daily Mail and let them know one of their retards has escaped.

  28. Re:Even headline is annoyingly "modern" for old st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not if it's a 3.5MB online installer - although I'd agree most pirates don't invest heavily in content delivery infrastructure, and most of them don't have a personal datacenter. Some real clever ones might be hosting installer infrastructure on EC2. ...or it's malware. Much more likely.

    It's not just games that do this. I've found Windows has become so hostile now that I really don't want to do anything whatsoever in it anymore. There's only two way I use Windows is inside a VM:
    - With VT-d and a passthru to GPU for Steam games.
    - As a bare host for VS2015 software development.

    The first has internet access, the second one doesn't. The best way to use Windows on the internet is "not at all".
    I once tried to find software to master ISOs for my VMs and ended up infecting my WIndows box. Completely innocent activity, completely bad outcome. Had to re-install (again).

  29. Why even bother with warez any more? by Cruciform · · Score: 1

    Between Steam, the Humble Store, and GOG, you could set your max budget for buying any game at $5 to $10 and still end up with a massive backlog that you could never keep up to. If you're not set on 0-day, then the sale is going to happen eventually.

  30. *.exe Run Save Cancel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ehm - I expected an .torrent - sure I'd want to Run the exe instead??

  31. Breaking News! Stop the Presses! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has been going on for over a decade!

  32. someone is seriously retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there are LITERALLY no games to download, there are """"games"""" to download, but no real pirate games

    you have to be specially stupid to put this shit in torrents right in the middle of the fucking denuvo era when no games are being released and no one is downloading shit because there is no shit to download

  33. Re:That's what you get for piracy by lgw · · Score: 1

    Neither of which is an excuse to pirate games. If you pirate because you're a broke-ass student, that's surely a minor sin, but don't invent excuses.

    No demo? Watch a "let's play". Doesn't work on your system, or tried it and it was total crap? Steam refund. Really want to "back up" games (as if your backups will outlive Steam - mine haven't)? Buy from GOG.

    Personally, I just don't buy full-price games (I think the only game over $20 I've bought in the last 10 years was Doom). AAA games are mostly crap anyway, and there are plenty of great titles in the $5-10 range on Steam and GOG, especially during sales. Steam refunds make it easy for me to take a risk.

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  34. go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    another reason to break the tether, go outside, meet real people, get laid, forget the stupid video game crap, and live life, productively, as god intended. amen.

  35. New news by phorm · · Score: 1

    Indeed. These days you have paid for operating systems which will automatically download then bait-and-switch update to malware-ridden spyware. That some random software (game or otherwise) downloaded from a sketchy source could contain malware is laughably obvious.

  36. Re:Even headline is annoyingly "modern" for old st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, as long as you don't click on every fucking thing you find through google and every single email attachment you will be fine.

    Even if you do, you should know that the Nigerian Prince's PDF shouldn't require a UAC(sudo) prompt and deny it. No reason not to have it off the internet, the firewall is enabled on windows by default and all of the ports are filtered!

    Windows doesn't even respond to pings by default.

  37. Those that don't know history by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Very prevalent as the new generation of techies come online, they know ZERO history of their industry. Exciting times!

  38. Firehose Failure. by Dishevel · · Score: 1

    How did enough people look at this and think ... "People need to see this."

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  39. News flash by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    If you download a data file and then you get a prompt asking if you want to run an executable file, it's probably a trick.

  40. Illegal to download potential illegitate software? by Squallop · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't this mean that Symantec, are illegally downloading torrents to find this information in the first place? They would need to be downloading enough data to make this illegal in the cases that the torrent isn't just malware, but actual illegitimate software.

  41. Trusted Uploaders by Nyder · · Score: 1

    This is why there are trusted uploaders on torrent sites. These uploaders generally are trusted, as they have uploaded 1000's of files with no problems. But hey, I understand what is old is new again when you got youngsters just getting into the field.

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  42. Welcome to 2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's old is new again. I hear word macro viruses are making a comeback as well.

    Use private trackers that are not in the ipt family. If you can't or won't use private trackers, then use magnet links. Also keep some basic things in mind like the fact that torrent files are not executable, and if something wants to execute, that's no torrent file.