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Clinton Tech Plan Reads Like Silicon Valley Wish List (usatoday.com)
theodp writes from a report via USA Today: "If there was any lingering doubt as to tech's favored presidential candidate," writes USA Today's Jon Swartz, "Hillary Clinton put an end to that Tuesday with a tech plan that reads like a Silicon Valley wish list. It calls for connecting every U.S. household to high-speed internet by 2020, reducing regulatory barriers and supporting Net neutrality rules, [which ban internet providers from blocking or slowing content.] It proposes investments in computer science and engineering education ("engage the private sector and nonprofits to train up to 50,000 computer science teachers in the next decade"), expansion of 5G mobile data, making inexpensive Wi-Fi available at more airports and train stations, and attaching a green card to the diplomas of foreign-born students earning STEM degrees." dcblogs shares with us a report from Computerworld that specifically discusses Clinton's support of green cards for foreign students who earn STEM degrees: As president, Hillary Clinton will support automatic green cards, or permanent residency, for foreign students who earn advanced STEM degrees. Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, wants the U.S. to "staple" green cards on the diplomas of STEM (science, technology, engineering, math) masters and PhD graduates "from accredited institutions." Clinton outlined her plan in a broader tech policy agenda released today. Clinton's "staple" idea isn't new. It's what Mitt Romney, the GOP presidential candidate in 2012, supported. It has had bipartisan support in Congress. But the staple idea is controversial. Critics will say this provision will be hard to control, will foster age discrimination, and put pressure on IT wages.
Potentially more abuse prone than the H1B visa. Diploma mills are already a reality in many parts of the world, adding a green card as an incentive and the potential for abuse is immense.
Hillary and the various silicon valley billionaires are tight. They get her elected and she will try to implement their agenda. And make no mistake, their agenda involves more money for them, less privacy for you and more control over you.
The green card idea is interesting, and I would enthusiastically support such a plan if it also included a dramatic reduction in the H1-B program.
Considering that Silicon Valley almost certainly came up with it to begin with. She always stay on script. Sigh
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...especially prior to elections! The promise mountains of gold... until the elections are over.
Potentially more abuse prone than the H1B visa. Diploma mills are already a reality in many parts of the world, adding a green card as an incentive and the potential for abuse is immense.
So you limit it to select accredited universities. Problem solved. If someone can graduate from MIT with an engineering degree and wants to stay in the USA, we're idiots to not help them do that. It only becomes a problem if we don't pay any attention to how it's done.
Politicians will say anything to get your vote. This is nothing new. They will say it in words so they are not actually lying. ...
Recently we have seen this with the UK politicians who were shocked themselves they won Brexit and have no idea how to get out of the shit. We have seen it with the 'closing' of Gunatanamo bay. We have seen it with any and all politicians. And I mean all of them. Right, left, communist,
As long as they are not accountable for their lies, nothing will change and to do that a serious reform would be needed. How to get to that reform? Vote for me, I will do it. I guarantee that these lies will stop.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
That's dumb as hell. All we have to do is stop reelecting them. Is that so difficult?
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
She is amazingly quick to tailor promises based on who she is talking to. The tech community should be aware of this.
Some big examples would be gay marriage, TPA, patriot act, Iraq War, etc.
Yes, I know all politicians lie. I am just annoyed that people believe things that Hillary say means something.
On a tech site, we are cheering someone's tech platform whose tech level is so low that her defenders say we should not expect Hillary to be able to manage two separate email accounts.
How can you propose a system to hold politicians accountable for failure to deliver on platform goals unless they have complete dictatorial control over implementation? "Well, then, they shouldn't promise anything .. " I hear you say. Well, sure, under such a system, politicians would be foolish to propose improving or changing anything. Would that make you happier? Life is a lot more complicated than you wish it was. In general, if *you* know that proposed plans are just plans, and *I* know proposed plans are just plans, then we can both make personal judgement on the feasibility and likelihood of a candidate being able (or willing) to deliver on them and vote accordingly. I think it's reasonable to assume that most people understand that a campaign promise isn't a legally binding blood pact.
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The first amendment exists to protect the people from the government. Elected officials are acting as the government, not the people.
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I suspect that she is listing all this stuff to enable her to INCREASE the number of h1b . For somebody that speaks of supporting the middle class, she is looking to gut the jobs by offspring and increasing immigration.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Maybe the paycheck came in and she felt she should show much she can be the corporate whore that's wanted.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
That late 90s economy couldn't have existed as it did separate from it's aftermath.
Yeah, we got to hear the President play the sax on TV and benefit from the "bubble expanding" half of the boom/bust cycle (and also collect on the dividend of the end of all that Cold War spending, but I digress) but the hype fest couldn't go on indefinitely. VA Linux and the dot.bomb hype outfits needed to eventually produce something that could realize a profit (*ahem*)
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A free e-mail server in every basement!
Now there's a platform I can support.
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 enabled the biggest telecom theft of public dollars in history:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pu...
Essentially, we gave $200 Billion to the telecoms in exchange for fiber connectivity to every residence and business in America. The telecoms took the $200 Billion and gave us - nothing.
Guess who signed the Telecommunications Act? Yep, Hillary's husband - Bill Clinton.
Why should we believe that Clinton 45 will be any better at tech policy than Clinton 42?
It's definitely true that some of the Clinton policies did directly contribute to the crash of 2008, chief among these being the tax incentives for executive pay that drove unprecedented income inequality, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, NAFTA, etc. The response from the GOP hasn't exactly been a reversal of these policies. If anything, they were extended and pushed forward. Policies favoring large companies resulted in consolidation and profit/expense min-maxing, not investment or job growth.
Drudge Report was all over the Istanbul bombing almost as soon as it happened. CNN reported too. As did Fox News...
Today — the next day — New York Times had their article. And Washington Post.
Are you taking your talking points from these dimwits, perhaps?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Clinton doesn't actually have a "tech plan". She was given one by her wealthy Silicon Valley donors. This is a woman who doesn't know how to use a fax machine, the idea that she even remotely understands net neutrality is a joke.
Do you have ESP?
She's lied about everything else... who the fuck would trust her on this? It's just a dangling carrot that, and she'll probably end up eating it herself if she gets in.
Presidents have very little control over our economy.
Indeed, I don't know why people keep perpetuating the lie that presidents have such huge economic influence. It's probably because the candidates campaign on these empty promises, "Vote for me, I'll make all your economic dreams come true!" Truly the most power they have is veto, and they are heavily pressured to not delay a budget which has made it through both houses of Congress.
Congress has much more influence over the economy. Go look up which party was in control of Congress during each recession. I've already done it for the 13 recessions since the Great Depression: Democrats controlled both houses 11 times, Republicans 2 times.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
Our universities put lots of women through STEM majors. But when they graduate they go back to China, where they can build big things.
We make the choices. We don't have to take what is "given".
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
What, is somebody putting a gun to your head, telling you who to vote for? Sounds to me like you're just to lazy to make the effort and just want to blame everybody else for your own bad choices.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Clinton... wants the U.S. to "staple" green cards on the diplomas of STEM... masters and PhD graduates
Good. We need to balance out the culture of ignorance that is developing in this country. The people who mock learning and expertise aren't moving the country forward now, and they never will.
Plus, if these people have real green cards, they cannot be abused and underpaid the same way H1Bs are. That should stabilize the labor market a bit, especially if the program ultimately leads to a reduction in H1B issuance.
If American citizens have no interest in education, go ahead and allow *real* immigration. As long as the immigrants integrate culturally, the country will come out stronger like it always has.
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Our universities put lots of women through STEM majors. But when they graduate they go back to China, where they can build big things.
Or they don't give us many employment options outside of 'mad scientist,' 'evil overlord,' and 'teacher.' I'm currently teaching but I'm starting to think finding a project whose goal is to cause world peace (by killing everybody) may be more moral.
We already discourage students from pursuing STEM degrees by allowing companies like Facebook and Microsoft to import cheap labor in the form of H1-B visas
You do realize that there is a LOT more to STEM fields than working for large IT firms right? I have an engineering degree and I work in manufacturing. (and manufacturing in the US is alive and well in spite of claims to the contrary) Most scientists, engineers and mathematicians don't work in Silicon Valley or Seattle. H1B visas are simply Not A Thing among engineers in my industry. They just aren't. I'm not saying they aren't a problem (they are) but they aren't as wide spread or severe a problem as is sometimes claimed. Frankly H1B visas are kind of small potatoes in the challenges presented by global competition.
are we now to add a further disincentive by saying that anybody who can slither under the wire to get accepted to a U.S. university (and graduate) is now your permanent competition inside the United States?
If they work here in the US under a Green Card they aren't going to be paid H1B wages. The company can't deport them and the worker has basically the same rights as a US citizen. Furthermore they are your competition whether or not they are here in the US. Plenty of software and technology is developed outside the US and they don't stop being smart, talented people just because they don't work inside the US. It's actually to your benefit to have as much talent here in the US doing useful things as possible. If they go elsewhere much of their economic benefit goes with them. If there are a lot of smart talented people here then the pool of jobs here grows. If they go elsewhere then they don't create value here and there ends up being fewer jobs. America is a country of immigrants. We only hurt ourselves when we forget that fact.
Policies like this are why the idiots in Britain voted to shoot their country (and themselves, directly) in the foot with a "Brexit" vote--because of the perception that their government serves "outsiders" ahead of them.
Spare me. Many British voters voted for Brexit in large part because of racism and xenophobia. And frankly given Britian's colonial past them complaining about outsiders is hugely ironic. It wasn't that long ago that Britain was a large empire based on screwing over foreigners in places like India.
I have talked to Hillary supporters who have said without any embarrassment: "Of course, she can't keep those promises and she has to lie. But it's vitally important that she get elected and she has to say things because American voters are stupid and she wouldn't get elected otherwise. Once she has been elected, she will just do what's good for the country."
How about attaching a JOB to diplomas of US CITIZENS who obtain STEM degrees?
Bush 43 did a bad job economically, but the 2008 crash was entirely the fault of a Democratic Congress, which rejected all attempts to end frivolous lending. Do some reading about that human turd, Barney Frank.
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That's quite the conspiracy theory you have there.
Not a single "third party" is qualified to be on the ballot in all states.
Only because not enough people petition to put them on. Simple math. This year they are too distracted by the Trump charade. Best gimmick I've seen in a long time.
Sorry, all the "rigging" is done by the voters themselves, through complacency, apathy, antipathy, whatever. As much as you all want to, you can blame nobody else.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
LMOL yeah in fantasy land. Pray tell how many jobs are being created when Disney hired H1B Visa holders after firing a couple hundred employees. When Microsoft fired 27,000?
You seem to suggest that there aren't smart people here or that Americans can't be trained or that there's a shortage of skilled workers (hint: there isn't a shortage).
Troll.
Nobody petitions for the R-team and D-team to get on the ballot. Due to the way the rules work, they're automatically included.
So what? The petitioning process is good enough to get on the ballot. You are not limited to voting for republicans and democrats. That is one you place on yourself. Nobody is doing it to you. The world is as "just" as you want it to be. You make the choice, you live with it. Nobody is going to save you.
And your reaction is very revealing, very typical of an *authoritarian sack of shit* that gets angry when confronted with facts that conflict with their beliefs... Thank you for confirming.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”