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Russian Leader Putin Signs Controversial 'Big Brother' Law (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Today Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the controversial "anti-terrorist" legislation adopted by the lower and upper houses of parliament in late June, despite the flurry of criticism from opposition-minded circles and the serious concerns expressed by Russian telecom and internet companies. As reported earlier by East-West Digital News, the new legislation -- which Edward Snowden has called "Russia's new Big-Brother law" -- is not only severe against those involved in "international terrorism," its financing or non-denunciation. Law-enforcement agencies will also be granted access to any user's messages without any judicial oversight. Several key provisions will directly affect the internet and telecom industry. In particular, telecom operators and internet resources will need to store the recordings of all phone calls and the content of all text messages for a period of six months. They will be required to cooperate with the Federal Security Service (FSB) to make their users' communications fully accessible to this organization.
if they have an argument with their spouse about any past conversation they can settle the argument by just calling up the kremlin and asking for a transcript
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"Law-enforcement agencies will also be granted access to any user's messages without any judicial oversight. Several key provisions will directly affect the internet and telecom industry. In particular, telecom operators and internet resources will need to store the recordings of all phone calls and the content of all text messages for a period of six months. They will be required to cooperate with the Federal Security Service (FSB) to make their users' communications fully accessible to this organization."
We will marvel at this here in the US, but it's on the way here as well. It won't just be terrorism fears, it'll be cries from the other side of the aisle about political corruption and tax evasion and everything else.
Unless we resist it, government will always be seeking more power, as will the half of the political spectrum that is always seeking ever-more government.
Anyone have a link to the actual text of the law?
Russians too often just copy what Americans do.
I suspect they are just formalizing the already standard practices.
"The ferrets, they're every where I tell you!"
Verizon does it for 90 days. The Russians do for 180 days. What's the difference?
The "Law-enforcement agencies will also be granted access to any user's messages without any judicial oversight" is nonsense. The law requires judicial oversight in that the court has to empanel a prosecutor to investigate you before the cops can be granted access. Basically the FSB can get warrantless access only if a court has already okayed an investigation into you. Russia doesn't have grand juries but the closest US analog is a grand jury saying "go ahead and do this."
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Access to every communication with no judicial oversight? The question isn't "will this be abused" but "how quickly will this be abused?" Also: "Will we ever know that it has been abused or will the Russian government cover it up?"
Bonus question: Will the Russian equivalent of Snowden flee his country with files detailing the abuses this law allows, publish the information drawing the ire of the Russian government, and flee to the US for sanctuary? Also, would the US grant him asylum or use him in a trade for Snowden?
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Russians enjoy getting backdoor'ed up the ass by Mother Russia with a sickle.
He did it courtesy of Theresa May, the British Home Secretary, who pushed through the UK's version of this (complete with free access to everyones Internet logs) during the Brexit debates.
Oh, and one extra treat, this law doesn't limit Putin to spying on Russians in Russia, he can use it to force ISPs to hand over their foreign data too... just like Theresa May's law.
So companies like Vodafone who operate in Europe and Russia will be handing over our European data to the Putins lot soon enough.
They can force their ISPs to comply, but there's no reason why non-Russian services like Google, twitter, and Facebook have to go along with this. Morally, they shouldn't.
Yeah, competitors might swoop in, but let them. Let Russia build its own totalitarian-friendly internet if it likes. They can have fun talking to North Koreans and Egyptians and Chinese to their heart's content, and let the rest of us get on with the persuits of free people.
He is little different than his Soviet predecessors.
The terrorists won even in countries they didn't attack on 9/11
Fascism by the government is on the rise worldwide....
Fact #1: The republicans and democrats have dominated US politics together over the past century. Neither has dominated alone; they have shared roughly equally in the domination of US politics.
Fact #2: The US government of today dwarfs the US government of a century ago, in terms of both revenue (adjusted for population growth) and power over the people. In that time period, the US government has grown itself into the largest and most expensive world empire in human history, with a military presence in some 200 foreign countries. By any measure, the US government is the largest and most powerful government this world has ever seen.
Now consider the common view of the republicans being the party of small government, and the democracts being the party of big government. If that were true, wouldn't we expect their political efforts to roughly cancel each other out, resulting in a US government roughly the same size as a century ago, measured in either revenue or power over the people?
The problem is that it's not. In fact, it's not even comparable. The US government of today absolutely dwarfs the US government of a century ago. What can we possibly conclude from this except that neither the republicans nor democrats have been fighting for smaller government? If they had been, we wouldn't be sitting in the middle of the largest, most far-reaching, most expensive, and most powerful government in world history.
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Given Mr. Putin's direction, what do Slashdotters think of products like Kaspersky and 7-Zip?
Will they be loaded with logic bombs or just back doors?
As we have seen by Russia's aggression against its neighbors (Georgia and Ukraine specifically), with Putin in charge they have sunk back to the old ways of repression and oppression. This law is only one of many designed to give absolute power to the one in charge, reminiscent of days past when the person in the Kremlin had the final say on anything.
The Soviet Union is dead yet Putin is insistent on trying to resurrect it, attacking its neighbors, sending in little green men to capture land, disruption of those who have left the oppression of Russia or those trying to crawl out of the hole dug for them by sycophants of Russia.
As we have seen in Crimea, where Putin has decreed the Tartars are not allowed to speak their own language or have schools which teach the Tartar language, where Tartars are beaten for speaking out against the indignities thrust upon them, where his oligarch minions have swooped in to steal at gunpoint the businesses people have built up, where the only news broadcast is what Putin says can be broadcast, everything possible to suppress people is being done all, ostensibly, to protect them.
Yet how protected can they be if their own government treats them as vassals? When Putin orders the murder of those who point out the endemic corruption in his government (such as Boris Nemtsov), when his estimated net worth, based on those who directly worked for him and managed his accounts, to be in the billions of dollars despite his salary, when he denies the deaths of thousands of soldiers when they invaded Ukraine, when he denies his own troops who admit they have been captured during the aggression against Ukraine, even going so far as to make it a crime for the mothers to talk about their son's deaths, it is quite clear he cares not for the Russian people but only himself and his legacy.
This law is nothing more than another step on Putin's march to returning to the past where neighbor spied on neighbor, where freedom of speech is only so much as he says is freedom of speech, where opposition newspapers, television and radio stations are routinely silenced to prevent the people from hearing anything other than state sponsored "news", where he and his oligarch buddies steal the country blind and live in lavish homes while the common man can barely afford a decent meal.
Is it any wonder the world doesn't take Russia seriously and why Russia, to this day, has still not advanced to a first world status.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
I wish Putin was my big brother. I wouldn't get picked on then!
Most western nations had implemented this in-practice well over a decade ago - hell, many didn't even wait for the law to catch-up! Silly Russians - always behind the times...
I'm not sure what friends Snowden has left after this, but I am sure thankful for his work and hope God protects him!
"Law-enforcement agencies will also be granted access to any user's messages without any judicial oversight."
So....pretty much like it is here, eh? Wow, the Russians are finally catching up to us in state-approved surveillance, who would have guessed we'd be the leader in this field?
Remember all the propaganda about "commies" and the "unfettered power of the police" they used to warn us about? Well, it turns out it was actually the US government that was running wild with virtually no constraints. The only constraint was "don't get caught", and even when they did get caught, nothing really happened.
And now the police feel free to shoot anyone, any time, on any pretext or none at all. The latest example of this is Philando Castile, who wasn't doing anything worthy of being shot. His only "crime" was going out in public and allowing himself to be seen by the police. They asked for his ID, and when he reached for it, they shot him to death in his car, still sitting in the driver's seat next to his girlfriend.
As Jesse Williams remarked, "In the interest of time, would ye noble patriots please provide a list of infractions punishable by spontaneous public execution?"
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
DuckDuckGo gives 7 total results for "Edward Snowden has called "Russia's new Big-Brother law""
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venturebeat.com
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That is 6 because 2 of them are Facebook.
Fucking sheeple. Can you verify Snowden said that? I can make a Twitter account very easily saying I am a space alien. Vid link please.
How? Even though most people are not tech-aware enough to write their own communications software, it's so ubiquitous now that getting a program which will allow you to encrypt all your voice calls is just a matter of compiling it. I mean, it's as simple as installing an operating system on a bare-bones PC. That's not exactly a high-level skill. This seems more like an attempt to force everyone living in Russia to encrypt their communications to increase the level of security of internal communications. Unlike Americans, who are basic sometime cynical but basically trusting of the government, RF citizens (and don't call them Russians because of them aren't) still retains the old Soviet attitude of cynicism towards any stated goals of the government.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
What can you except from Putlin.
Now we have a chance to see if any such laws are actually practical. Most likely it will turn out prohibitively costly, Russian ISPs will collapse, and the other nations will postpone similar laws for few more years.
US security agencies and US congresspeople have insisted that intrusive surveillance is the only path to security, and security experts have tried to point out that personal privacy and government surveillance are contradictory. Now that the known-to-be-bad Soviet - sorry, Russian - government, led by a known-to-be-megalomaniac who is known to have his political opponents killed, has a formal law in place, the people pushing the same laws here must explain whether we're not becoming the same police state that we decry.
Putin's just following Harper's Bill C-51 lead. Nothing new here folks.
Mr. President, we cannot allow a mineshaft gap!
Can now celebrate the freedom he has brought to the Russian Federation. This is the fruit of his labor.
Meh. Canada's been trying the same since 2012. Only difference is that Russia was successful while Canada only partially so.
Bill C-30 "Protecting Children from Internet Predators Act" (Struck down)
Bill C-51 "Anti-terrorism Act, 2015" (Enacted)
One of the more interesting things I remember about C-30 when it was being talked about, was that our telecommunication Industry (i.e. Bell and Rogers Communication) opposed the idea due to the cost to upgrade their networks and systems to be able to have the data on hand and available and wanted the government of Canada to pay for it lol!
Then again there was Bill C-55 which I believe actually made it more difficult and provided additional oversight to enforcement agencies using warrantless telecommunication intercepts... But that was to address a decision made by the supreme court...
Seriously, Snowden fled to nations that remain effectively under totalitarian rules. His now speaking up against this law is going to get himself killed.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
There will be no mafia or organized crime in Russia within a year. The FSB will go all The Interceptor on their ass.
There's a lot of money in war.
That single sentence perfectly sums up the entire situation. Nothing could explain it more concisely. Military empires aren't built for the benefit of "the people".
I didn't even celebrate the fourth this year. And even the people I knew doing stuff on the 4th this year lacked 4th theming. Other than watching/lighting fireworks it was very subdued this year. There was also almost no traffic and not a single visible police checkpoint, despite both being common in prior years. Combined with a much smaller than average 4th of July parade, it feels like nationalism in the US is at an all time low.
Also, as posted in previous articles: Most of the 'horrible things Soviet Russia did that US did not' have since become the norm here. And when I point this out to people they just stare at me like I am crazy (despite it coming from the mouth of a teacher old enough to have lived through the Depression!)
Drive everyone and their servers out of that backwards country to some place that's not psychotic.
The law will come into force in 2018, which implies that there is no mass surveillance in Russia today. I think this is a concealed message to the World that Russia is clean now. And there is time until 2018 for Putin to sign amendments to the law that will make obsolete its most scandalous bits. Just a hunch.
I'd say it is totally straightforward.