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VW Has Emissions-Cheating Fix Ready, Says Report (pressherald.com)
An anonymous reader writes from a report via Portland Press Herald: Volkswagen plans to fix the engines that were rigged to cheat on emissions tests by updating computer software and installing a larger catalytic converter to trap harmful nitrogen oxide, according to two dealers who were briefed by executives on the matter. The dealers said that limited details of the plan were made public last week at a regional dealer meeting in Newark, New Jersey, by Volkswagen of America Chief Operating Officer Mark McNabb. Portland Press Herald reports: "One dealer said the group was told that early testing of a small sample of repaired cars showed that the fix made 'no discernible difference' in the cars' mileage, horsepower or torque. Both dealers said they were told that more testing was needed and that the plans still had to be approved by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board. One of the dealers said the so-called 'Generation 1' diesels -- about 325,000 VW Jettas, Golfs, Passats and Beetles from the 2009 to 2014 model years – would get new software and bigger catalytic converters in January or February of next year. About 90,000 'Generation 2' Passats already have sufficient emissions systems and would get only a software update early next year. Another 67,000 'Generation 3' 2015 models would get software in October and would get additional hardware a year later, the dealer said. Dealers also were told that they'd be reimbursed by VW for sales losses due to the scandal, and that new vehicles are coming." Last month, Volkswagen agreed to a record $14.7 billion settlement over the emissions cheating.
I'd love to see an independent, third-party certification that there isn't discernible loss in MPG or power.
How much will it hurt gas mileage. For all of the bs about harming the environment, the reduction in CO2 emissions from the cheating is probably the best thing that's happened for the environment this century.
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stuffing each tail pipe with as many 100 dollar bills that can fit might be a good solution at this point.
Inject more DEF, or add a DEF system. Probably includes free diesel exhaust fluid; except for dealer pricing, the stuff is dirt cheap.
That we have found the officials willing to listen to reports of cheating and have paid them off so that our "improved" cheat codes will not be detected before we collect our bonuses.
Fix the cheat with a new Cheat!
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then the bastards must be kicking themselves in the ass. It hasn't taken them very long to come up with a fix; if they'd spent the time to do that back in the development cycle, they could have saved themselves a shitload of money - not to mention all the damage to their reputation since they got caught trying to pull a fast one.
As the old engineering saying goes, 'never time to do it right, but always time to do it over'.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
That the cars will still emit 200% of legally mandated NOx levels.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...
Only the newest vehicles with the urea injection (2015 and newer) will make it to the legal levels.
So if you bought a "clean Diesel" based upon VW's bogus claims, remember what they did to you next time you're out buying.
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My god, you are a fucking moron.
Diesel engines emit 15-20% more CO2 per unit volume (liter/gallon) of fuel burned because the fuel contains more energy/carbon.
And once the companies stop cheating, the fuel economy of the Diesel just isn't all that much better than a turbo gas engine.
Why put up with extra NOx and particulates (depending on the car you compare to) to save such a small amount of CO2? Just get a gas hybrid and do better all around. Or a plug-in hybrid like the Volt where you can do most of your driving burning no liquid fuel at all?
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/8/20/95
OK so if the fix does little to affect the performance or MPG of the vehicle. How come the fix wasn't used in the first place? I am pretty sure a company doesn't try and circumvent emission rules simply to make a vehicle perform slightly better. You cannot tell me they risks so much for so little in customer satisfaction.
After treatment like a bigger converter won't be such a performance factor, but obviously your going to have to lean out the engine management software to fix emissions. Otherwise it still will overload the converter eventually.
I just opened the comments thinking, do I even want this "fix" on my car? If I lose MPG or power then; it aint no fix in my book. MPG and power were factors I considered when buying my car. I paid a lot of money based on the MPG and power the car had when I bought it. I have no interest in seeing either reduced.
If I can, I will probably avoid this "fix"
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
Without reading even yhe summary.... This whole emissions-cheating circus couldn't have worked out better if Elon Musk had organised the whole thing himself.
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Why is it that nobody is demanding to see the schematics and source-code to the testing equipment for verification of its accuracy? If VW can cheat, then it follows that the testing agency, which does have motive and more than one, could fake the test results too.
I want to see the exact same emissions standards applied to trucks, vans, semis, big rigs, and construction equipment. Those vehicles still spew out a lot of dust, dirt, and poison that makes the VW cheat negligible. But oh no, regulating big trucking will create a big uproar.
The standards are in place for everything you listed.
OSX pwns.
I'd love to see an independent, third-party certification that there isn't discernible loss in MPG or power.
Heck, I fully expected that. See, I thought VW would release a firmware patch for emission testing equipment. All VWs would start passing, no need to bother the owners with coming in for the recall.
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It's saddening to see people not giving a **** about anyone's health including their own, they'd rather save a few cents per week and poison people to death.
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Here in the UK we are just being offered a software fix. Good old UK/Europe failing to help owners.
And, if there was no DMCA, we wouldn't be having this conversation...
the "Fix" would have been spotted long ago.
The EPA should have seen this right away...
But as my father used to say, "If you can't get a Real Job, then you go to work for the government."
But if you want Slashdot to be full of more ignorant bullshit, you're an asshole
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Once A Cheater Always A Cheater, isn't that what we tell women. I will never by a VW there is no way to trust them and if they will not fix the cars right then that is a cheat as well.