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65-Year-Old Woman Shoots Down Drone Over Her Virginia Property With One Shot (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader writes from a report via Ars Technica: Jennifer Youngman, a 65-year-old woman living in rural northern Virginia shot down a drone flying over her property with a single shotgun blast. Ars Technica reports: "Youngman told Ars that she had just returned from church one Sunday morning and was cleaning her two shotguns -- .410 and a .20 gauge -- on her porch. She had a clear view of the Blue Ridge Mountains and neighbor Robert Duvall's property (yes, the same Robert Duvall from The Godfather). Youngman had seen two men set up a card table on what she described as a 'turnaround place' on a country road adjacent to her house. 'I go on minding my business, working on my .410 shotgun and the next thing I know I hear bzzzzz,' she said. 'This thing is going down through the field, and they're buzzing like you would scaring the cows.' Youngman explained that she grew up hunting and fishing in Virginia, and she was well-practiced at skeet and deer shooting. 'This drone disappeared over the trees and I was cleaning away, there must have been a five- or six-minute lapse, and I heard the bzzzzz,' she said, noting that she specifically used 7.5 birdshot. 'I loaded my shotgun and took the safety off, and this thing came flying over my trees. I don't know if they lost command or if they didn't have good command, but the wind had picked up. It came over my airspace, 25 or 30 feet above my trees, and hovered for a second. I blasted it to smithereens.'" Ars goes on to explain that aerial trespassing isn't currently recognized under American law. "The Supreme Court ruled in a case known as United States v. Causby that a farmer in North Carolina could assert property rights up to 83 feet in the air. There is a case still pending on whether or not Kentucky drone pilot, David Boggs, was trespassing when he flew his drone over somebody else's property. "Broggs asked the court to rule that there was no trespassing and that he is therefor entitled to damages of $1,500 for the destroyed drone."

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  1. Good for the Goose by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ask "the same Robert Duvall from The Godfather" if he would be ok with one of those hovering over his home.... I am sure he is fine with the press/paparazzi using those. If it was scaring her cows and invading her privacy... all I can say is "good shot".

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  2. Re:Drones might have weapons. by Fwipp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    An abandoned stroller could be a bomb. Better blow it up, just to be safe.

  3. better quotes form the linked article(s) by tomhath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Youngman said the intruding pair quickly brought attention to themselves when they exited their SUV, parked in front of Duvall's residence.

    Youngman said a series of burglaries in the area a few years ago, coupled with sightseers, has caused an increase in neighborhood awareness, as well as action by Duvall's security team.

    Youngman said she believed in 2nd Amendment rights and also was irritated that people would try to disturb Duvall.

    “The man is a national treasure and they should leave him the fuck alone,” she said.

    The Fauquier County Sheriff’s Office said it had no record of anyone formally complaining about this incident.

    Sounds like a good neighbor.

  4. Whitehouse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they won't let you fly a drone over the white house without permissions, then it shouldn't be allowed over my house either without my permission. I think ruling in favor of damages is a terrible precedent.

  5. Re:Laws lagging behind tech as usual by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Give it a few more years, maybe a person or two killed or maimed by an out of control drone at a sporting/large event,

    Give it a few more minutes and a person or two will be killed or maimed by an out of control gun toting idiot.

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  6. Re:America in one sentence by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, there's nothing in the bible against guns.

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  7. Re:Not a drone... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Oh, give it up. You've lost that one.

    Things are called what people call them.

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  8. Gun Control by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now THAT'S what Gun Control is all about...hitting your target on the first shot, and a kill shot to boot.

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  9. Re:Next Phase by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Texas and ISIS are the only places in the world where you can just shoot down anybody who enters "your" property.

    Depends how good you are at disposing of the body after.

  10. Re:America in one sentence by Reaperducer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, she has a different lifestyle than yours. She must be mocked and ridiculed.

    Way to celebrate diversity there, homie.

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  11. Re:Laws lagging behind tech as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like all those NRA members shooting each other over gang turf in Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit?

  12. Re:Next Phase by haruchai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amen! A shotgun can hold more than one shell. Use the first to shoot down the drone and the others (preferably slugs) to shoot the operator.

    I carry a .45 on my job, mainly for protection from vicious dogs. The pistol holds 10 rounds in the magzine + 1 in the chamber. The first round is for the dog, the other 10 are for the dog's owner.
    Haven't had to shoot one yet, but any day now . . . .

    Sounds like there's a vicious dog with an itchy trigger finger

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  13. Re:America in one sentence by I75BJC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If fact, there are verses in the Bible that are pro-gun (in a general sense) and pro-self-defense. Jesus Christ told his followers to sell their extra cloak and buy a sword. Many people, especially those unfamiliar with the Gospels, don't know this.

  14. Re:Next Phase by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's a novel idea. How about a drone operator inform a property owner that he or she would like to fly the drone over the property, and explain why in advance?

  15. Re:America in one sentence by gtall · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yeah, nice to think we have not progressed since then, eh?

  16. Re:Next Phase by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even I, a person who's never even held a gun, knows this is a fucking stupid thing to do.

    Even you, a person who's never even held a gun, should shut the fuck up until he learns how firearms work. There are lots of pistols which are designed to be carried with a round in the chamber, probably most notably including 1911-pattern handguns.

    People like you are the reason why people think anti-gun activists are morons.

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  17. Courtesy? by nealric · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Legal issues aside, if she was aware of the operator's location, it was a dick move to destroy the drone without simply talking to the operator first. Half the drones I see are being operated by kids with their parents standing by as a fun hobby. There's not always nearby or sufficient public land for the activity, and it's normal to want to try out new flying locations. If she had a problem with operating a drone in the area, she could have told them so. 99% of drone operators are going to comply in that sort of situation. If they were rude after being asked to leave, then I can see justification for shooting the drone down.

    1. Re:Courtesy? by somenickname · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If there isn't enough nearly public land for the activity then don't buy a drone. If you don't live near lakes that allow boats, you don't buy one anyway, use it where it doesn't belong and then shrug and say, "Sorry, no other place to use my boat".

    2. Re:Courtesy? by Solandri · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it was a dick move to destroy the drone without simply talking to the operator first.

      It was a dick move for them to fly the drone over private property without simply talking to the property owner first. The drone operators were the first to fail to extend a simple courtesy. I'm not at all surprised nor sympathetic that their lack of courtesy was returned in kind.

      If she had a problem with operating a drone in the area, she could have told them so.

      The drone operators were the instigator. They took the first action which precipitated the incident (flew the drone over her property). The onus was on them to ask/inform her first. Not for her to ask them to leave first.

      C'mon people. Talk to each other. It's called being a good neighbor. If I'm going to take photos of private property, despite the law giving me the right to do it, I will still ask the property owner as a courtesy. Yes there's a chance the property owner might be a jerk and refuse. But guess what - there are about a hundred million property owners in the U.S. Just move on and find a different property which suits your needs and ask again. Just because you have the legal right doesn't mean you have to exercise that right there if you can just as easily exercise it elsewhere where it doesn't piss somebody else off. Most of the time the property owner is eager to talk, and I learn some interesting things about the property. And they learn some interesting things about photography.

  18. Re:Next Phase by jshackney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1500 feet? Do you have a mode C transponder?

  19. Re:More power to her. by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How sad you equate shooting a toy with shooting a human. Or did you purposely conflate those two things in attempt to make a point?

  20. Re:Next Phase by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You realize that an AR-15 is just a semiautomatic rifle, with a manufacturer-stated rate of fire of ~45-60 rounds per minute, yes? And that a semiautomatic pistol can fire just as quickly, and in some cases, faster?

    But yeah, keep on pretending that an AR-15 is just a slight bit less deadly than a fucking atomic bomb. Because OOOOH a rifle is scary!

    Look, I'm not averse to more gun control laws being put on the books - I think we're too permissive and there are a lot of sensible steps we could take that would prevent guns from falling into the wrong hands. But you dipshit activists who sit there whining about rifles while ignoring the fact that something like 80% of gun deaths are caused by handguns are absolutely hilarious. Do you hate AR-15's because they're big and black? Or is it just what the good folks on MSNBC told you to think?

  21. Re:Photo in the studio! by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a thought, maybe she's not a techy geek hipster millenial who thinks that the worst thing that could ever happen to them is to be temporarily disconnected from TwitterBook.

  22. Re:Next Phase by stealth_finger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You sound like the world would be losing something in an owner who does not control their dog.

    It wont...

    You sound like the type of person who thinks you should be able to kill any one for just about anything, even looking at you funny. The world would be better off without you.

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