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Meet URL, the USB Porn-Sniffing Dog (cnn.com)

HughPickens.com writes: CNN reports that URL, the porn-sniffing dog, is the newest crime-fighting tool at the Weber County Sheriff's office with a nose that could help put away some of the country's most predatory and dangerous criminals. URL (pronounced Earl) sniffs out electronic storage media. Still just a pup, the 18-month-old K-9 is one of fewer than two dozen such dogs in the United States that hunt the unique chemical compounds emitted from flash drives, memory cards, cell phones, iPads and other similar devices. While dogs like URL can't tell detectives if a device has electronic evidence on it, they are able to find devices that humans might otherwise miss. Detective Cameron Hartman points to the high-profile case of former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle, who was convicted on child pornography and other charges last year. A K-9 named Bear, who was trained by the same man who trained URL, led investigators to hidden thumb drives inside Fogle's home. The U.S. Attorney's office for Southern Indiana confirmed those devices contained evidence against Fogle. URL has found evidence relating to pornography during the execution of search warrants for the task force in several investigations of child sex crimes and child trafficking. "He actually found a USB that was in this jar that was closed, and the jar was in a box, and the box had stuff in it. The jar itself had stuff in it."

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  1. I want one!!! by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can never find my USB drives and SD cards. Say what you like about spinning disc, at least they were (are) easy to keep track of.

    1. Re:I want one!!! by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

      If the dog could find the tv remote and car keys he truly would be mans best friend. I would send my dog to that training camp.

    2. Re:I want one!!! by dublin · · Score: 2

      I misplace/lose all kinds of things around the house (especially tools: razor knives and tape measures seem to be especially furtive), but I think I've misplaced my keys maybe four or five times in my entire life - How in the world can you possibly lose your car keys?

      (I'm not even particularly organized here, but if I'm wearing anything at all over my skivvies, then the keys are in the right front pocket (phone goes in the left). If I'm not wearing pant/trousers/shorts, then the keys are either in the pocket of whatever I wore last (if I just hung them up on a hook), or on the bathroom counter or the top of the dresser, all within about a dozen steps. I'm honestly mystified that anyone would ever buy (or even ever need) something like Tile or other key-finders...)

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    3. Re:I want one!!! by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

      I currently have one vehicle and a wife that also drives it so you never know where the keys will end up. If she didn't hang them back up they are most likely on the kitchen counter or the nightstand but not always.

  2. Possible solution... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    So here's a possible solution, and a market for recycled electronics.

    Start a business that grinds old (but relatively modern) electronics into a fine powder that can be dusted around anyplace you want to keep your stuff hidden from the pigs. The dog will be useless.

    1. Re:Possible solution... by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean the "pigs" that protect your chubby suburban white ass from getting killed?

      The criminal always has the initiative. The "pigs" don't protect or prevent ANYTHING. They show up after the fact to clean up the mess, and SOMETIMES get up off their asses to actually try to catch a perpetrator - you know, someone who has already DONE the crime. You have this wild notion that police somehow are the only barrier between the citizen and crime. No, the police are the CONSEQUENCES of crime for the criminal. That is, when they get the right guy. But anyone guilty enough will do, at the end of the day. The only barrier the police are really for is between you and those who rule you.

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    2. Re:Possible solution... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who do you think is going to protect you in your little suburban house?

      No one. Protection is a myth.

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    3. Re:Possible solution... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The police ARE the consequences and are the ONLY thing giving criminals second thoughts about breaking into your suburban house and knocking you over the head.

      Which is exactly what I said. But then again considering the fact we still have crime, it doesn't seem to be working too well now does it?

      You suburban white kids

      You are quite obviously a racist fucker. You have no idea who I am or what I look like, let alone what my history is.

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    4. Re:Possible solution... by Dunbal · · Score: 2

      No - because we still have crime, police don't PREVENT crime. They respond to crime. That IS logic.

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    5. Re:Possible solution... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      I think it's fair to say that they prevent SOME crime. Maybe even a LOT of crime.

      If there were no police there would be a lot more crime. Sure, we still have some crime (in the west crime is at historically low levels though) and the crime that does happen all the police CAN do is respond to it.

      I wouldn't want police who could arrest someone before a criminal act had occurred.

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    6. Re:Possible solution... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Some. But jail is also full of people who never thought they would get caught. Ergo, the "police" had zero influence on their choosing to commit a crime. Most people don't commit crimes because they were brought up properly, not because they're "afraid of the police". The police only have an effect on those borderline people who don't give a shit about anyone else but still care enough about themselves to not want to end up in jail. The sociopath doesn't give a shit, period. And decent human beings don't need police. in fact, lived many, many years without police. Police is a relatively NEW invention.

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    7. Re:Possible solution... by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      C'mon, stop posting the same lines over and over. This is just like when you go on your space nutter rants. Either you're a really dedicated troll or just plain fucking stupid. Maybe both.

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    8. Re:Possible solution... by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Informative

      The main thing that makes crime in higher population areas so much more appealing than crime in remote locations is the anonymity that large populations afford.

      Someone driving up to your house in the remote location stands out like a sore thumb, everyone for miles might be looking at them wondering what they are up to and notice the exact make and model of the car/truck.

      In the city, not so much.

      The main deterrent to crime is not the prospect of punishment; its the prospect of being caught. In the case of your remote location, even if they get away with the goods, chances of being caught are much higher because their presence is more noticeable.

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  3. URL is also known by queazocotal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    as parallel construction.

    1. Re:URL is also known by queazocotal · · Score: 2

      It depends on the terms of the search warrant, and why it was obtained.
      I can't find online details of the warrants in question.
      If the warrants were 'you can toss the place looking for porn' - based on other credible evidence then great - no problem.
      It seems unlikely on its face in this case that parallel construction was directly involved in the finding of the USB drive.
      (unless the warrant did not give them permission to toss the place, and they in fact did).

      It is an unusually great method of getting beyond the iniital bar of 'reasonable suspicion' if the officer has facts that he cannot rely on in court (for example, from extra-legal surveilance methods), if you can get (or claim) the dog indicated on the suspects vehicle, or ...

  4. You mean parallel construction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1) Having a flash card is not a crime
    2) Having a flash card concealed is not a crime
    3) Having a flash card concealed that contains porn is not a crime
    4) Possession of child porn is a crime. ...."Whether it’s child porn, terrorism intelligence, narcotics or financial crimes information, "...

    You make a blind false *blanket* accusation, which you then use to justify a blanket fishing expedition, which you occasionally catch a criminal.
    Your dog cannot sniff out child porn, terrorist intelligence, data on narcotics, or data on financial crimes. You just haven't been stopped in your random searches yet, and you hope by marketing this miracle dog the courts won't take action.

    Either:

    a) You are a liar doing blanket searches and occasionally catching someone.
    b) You are hiding parallel construction (i.e. being given evidence illegally obtained by mass surveillance and then using a dog to conceal the source of that evidence to fool the courts).
    c) You pick a victim and set the dog on them, this has been done in drugs cases where the dog is used to sniff around cars and signalled to give a bark which is then used as excuse to justify a search you already decided you wanted to make.

    I recall this:
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/federal-court-rules-search-laptop-border-unreasonable/

    A Korean man was stopped at the border, his laptop cloned and searched for evidence while he was detained for hours (missing his flight).. 'on a hunch'. They had a hunch he might have data on illegal sales of exports.... on a hunch.... and lo and behold they found some evidence on that hunch.

    The court was not fooled and suppressed the evidence. There was no way an expensive forensic data search was done on a hunch. It was likely parallel construction to conceal a previous illegal hack or search.

    1. Re:You mean parallel construction by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "1) Having a flash card is not a crime
      2) Having a flash card concealed is not a crime"

      You wish. Though this was once true of cash, any bundle of money can now be presumed to be crime-related if the cops deem it profitable to make this declaration. Say goodbye to your Apple gear now under the same legal pretext.

    2. Re:You mean parallel construction by MitchDev · · Score: 4, Informative

      As America (and let's be honest, other countries are turning total fascist as well) continues it's slide into making 1984 look like a freeman's paradise....

      Sad really

    3. Re:You mean parallel construction by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2

      Not always. Jared Fogle was suspected because the head of his charitable foundation had already been found with child porn and probably turned on Jared. I don't remember the story and too lazy to look it up. Anyway, they already suspected him when they got the valid warrant, and the dog was used to find his SD cards where he kept his stash of kiddy porn. As far as I know Fogle never tried to claim that he was framed or anything like that.

    4. Re:You mean parallel construction by operagost · · Score: 2

      You are hiding parallel construction (i.e. being given evidence illegally obtained by mass surveillance and then using a dog to conceal the source of that evidence to fool the courts).

      This. It would be quite easy for them to B&E, find the contraband via normal means, then return later and prompt the K9 to indicate toward the location of the evidence (which has been proven to happen in multiple studies).

      Maybe you don't deal drugs, distribute child porn, or steal identities. But do you want police freely rooting through your stuff, hoping to find something incriminating?

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    5. Re:You mean parallel construction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think you can get stability and prosperity from a police state under any circumstances. You get told that whatever you have is stability and prosperity, provided by the suppression of enemies internal and external.

      The saying "Mussolini made the trains run on time" should be retired and replaced with "Mussolini made it dangerous to notice when the trains were late."

    6. Re:You mean parallel construction by lgw · · Score: 2

      You have the constitutionally-protected right against searches by the government without a warrant. There's no "except on private property" there. There's no "unless we're scared" there. The TSA is wholly unconstitutional, always has been, where private contractors doing the same thing were OK. Searches to enter a courthouse are wholly unconstitutional.

      But no one cares any more. We even get trolls like this asshole arguing it's a good thing.

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  5. Wouldn't matter, the dog is just an excuse by raymorris · · Score: 5, Informative

    It wouldn't matter. Police dogs "alert" (sit down, or scratch, or something - anything the dog does can be an "alert") whenever and whenever the handler wants them too.

    In one test, the researchers told the cops they wanted to test the dogs. They set up eights cans and told the handlers "there are drugs in can #1 and can #4, let's see how the dogs do". The dogs consistently alerted on can #1 and can #4. The drugs were in #6 and #8 - the officer's expectations matter more than where the contraband actually is.

    See also:

    http://illinoistimes.com/artic...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com...

    1. Re:Wouldn't matter, the dog is just an excuse by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So they're basically polygraphs on 4 legs with fur?

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    2. Re:Wouldn't matter, the dog is just an excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So they're basically polygraphs on 4 legs with fur?

      It's much worse than that.

      Polygraph evidence is not readily admissible in court. Dog noses on the other hand...

    3. Re:Wouldn't matter, the dog is just an excuse by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dogs have been selectively bred, if unintentionally, to pick up on human signals. They are very, very good at it. They are among the few animals who are able interpret hand signals, and they know what pointing means without even needing training. They can follow a human gaze with ease. They can react to slight shifts in position of speed of motion that no human notices, including the person making them.

  6. Re:Does it work? by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this a voodoo divining rod, or an actually-useful tool? It's hard to tell in the field, with so much electronic stuff everywhere.

    Probably not Voodoo. I doubt that a dog would ever be brought in to sniff for thumb drives in general, but there was already a case building against Fogle, and they just were looking for corroborating evidence. As for the smell of electronics, hell I can smell them, so I'm certain that a dog will do just fine.

    The smell of electronics would be on everything, and the dog wouldn't be able to sniff out anything useful.

    Depends on who and when you are looking for something. Using Fogle's example, they are going to take every piece of electronic storage in the house and go over it as part of the criminal investigation. A false positive means nothing, they'll just move on to the next thing the doggo alerts at. Outside of a criminal investigation, the doggo probably won't ever be used - at least for that. There's just too many of the devices sitting around.

    I fear you might not know just how accurate some critter's sense of smell is.

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  7. Awesome! by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now I can finally find out what device my porn is on and what contains my presentation! It's always so embarrassing to plug in that USB stick and hear my boss mutter "Say, didn't we see that last week... no wait, that was last night..."

    Unfortunately the subject line is as usual completely bogus and the dog simply finds electronic devices. Which is essentially useless. Yes, you might find the odd hidden USB device, but since it's not the device but its content that is "dangerous" when found, criminals will adapt and store incriminating evidence off site and encrypted.

    So what is that story, essentially? A heads-up for criminals?

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  8. How easy it would be to... by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... a police officer decides that he does not like your face and "magically" find a hidden USB drive in your luggage in places where you would never think of putting one? Where I live no one trusts the police (for good reason), and if the possession of something small and easy to plant as a USB stick becomes a crime so will be even more reason for me to avoid the US as one avoids a city infested by ebola.

    P.S: No, I not a international terrorist or something like that (only the Dark Lord of Hell, but this is not a crime right?). But I'm not willing to test my chances facing a TSA gorilla and ruin my vacation because he had not liked my face.

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  9. Re:AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by bickerdyke · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, they detect *ALL* flash media, even if it is totally and completely unrelated to porn.

    Has anyone ever heard of that?

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  10. Humph by DougOtto · · Score: 2

    Man's best friend, my ass. Hahahaha

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    1. Re:Humph by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Your ass is not man's best friend. Don't be narcissistic.

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  11. URL or Url? by Comboman · · Score: 2

    I assume the dog's name is pronounced "Earl" and not "You-Are-El" so it probably shouldn't be all caps (unless his name is actually "Uniform Resource Locator" which actually would be clever since he locates "resources" for people in uniforms).

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  12. Re: AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by tysonedwards · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's what the article is suggesting. The dog can't sniff for porn, but it can sniff for flash memory, and is being used to identify flash memory that may be concealed in non-obvious locations.

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  13. Re:AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You sound lucky enough to have never dealt with American Police.

    Getting your shit back after seizure, innocent or not, is difficult at best and pointless at worst.

  14. Re:AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by andreas.hummelbrunne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah. Because 100% of porn is illegal child pornography.
    Let's be real here:
    Having a storage device doesn't mean that the state needs to know what's stored on it.
    Having a storage device doesn't mean that the content is pornographic and/or illegal.
    Having a storage device doesn't mean that you're a criminal.

    And yet you get treated as such.

  15. Re:Does it work? by waveclaw · · Score: 3, Informative
    Does it work? No. But that depends on your definition of "work."

    But Drug dogs work perfectly for law enforcement: they provide whatever answer the police want and the gullible public believe the dogs are infallible.

    I fear you might not know just how accurate some critter's sense of smell is.

    You might just not know how dogs behave.

    If search dogs work then the dog should be fine to hunt these without the handler there at all. Just let the dog search on his or her own.

    Search and rescue dogs work this way just fine every day. You let them go and they hunt down people easily that you or I cannot see or hear or smell.

    But any person who raises and breeds and trains dogs professionally knows the first and only thing a well trained dog wants is to please the handler. That's the definition of well and trained for a dog. Drug sniffing dogs are very well trained.

    In the hands of their handler a dog is just a dowsing rod for the man with the leash. Combine that with objects that conveniently fit in an officer's pocket and the long history of corrupt government officials. You shouldn't have plausible evidence. You should have plausible deniability. Yes, dogs are great at finding skunks or burnt joints you might be able to smell yourself. Not so much for things in air-tight closed containers on in piles of stuff that smells exactly like it.

    But like you demonstrate, most people don't know how dogs behave. (Or how to spot magical thinking.)

    Keep the handler away from the dog. Let it search on its own. Otherwise he or she is just a furry four-legged lie detector.

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  16. Not my vacation maybe by phorm · · Score: 2

    About the average slashdot user, this is true they most likely don't care at all.
    But how about:
    * Somebody who they suspect is a criminal but they haven't been able to find real evidence of a crime
    * (key) members of protest groups
    * Reporters who cover stories they don't like
    * Informants to reporters
    * Pretty much anyone else they don't like, or - as the OP said - "he had not liked my face"

    Now maybe it's not your face they don't like, but the fact that they were already having a pissy day and you decided to be firm in your choice to go for the pat-down rather than get backscatter X-rayed, or whatever other things sets off they "you do not respect my authoritay" vibe...

  17. Re:Misleading??? Nah... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2, Informative

    URL is trained to sniff out USB sticks that have Vaseline remnants on them.

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  18. Re: AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by GLMDesigns · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Keep voting for an all-powerful government - and reap what you sow.

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  19. box, maybe? by pz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "He actually found a USB that was in this jar that was closed, and the jar was in a box, and the box had stuff in it. The jar itself had stuff in it."

    Maybe, just maybe, he didn't smell the USB flash drive that was in a closed jar inside a box. Maybe, just maybe, he smelled the residue that the owner had left on the outside of the box when putting the flash drive away.

    It's very, very challenging to completely isolate something from ordor-based detection. You need to work with clean instruments and put the item in a clean container, operating ideally in a clean environment. Then, because you probably slightly contaminated the outside of the bag, you need to do it again, with a completely new set of clean instruments, in a new, clean environment. And then you probably need to do it again. And probably again.

    Otherwise, the owner might as well have just rubbed the flash drive on the outside of the box.

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  20. Re:Note to operatives by HBI · · Score: 2

    You'd think a porn sniffing dog might detect the faint scent of jizz on the usb sticks. Would probably start hitting on the cop's crotch and hand.

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  21. Re:Does it work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Um huh, give me the citations of exactly how dogs olfactory organs operate. And thanks, I'm always happy to be edumacated by an expert. Here's the thing. and this is what will happen.

    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10071-010-0373-2/fulltext.html

    Apparently, what a dog smells is very much determined by if the handler wants to find something there or not.

    Is that link scientific enough for you?

  22. Re:AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

    If they're so concerned about cleanliness, why do they wipe the shit off their assess with their bare hands?

    Because their toilet roll is sacred?

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  23. Re:AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by CommanderRyalis · · Score: 2

    Child porn is certainly illegal, and that's what they use these dogs to look for, with a warrant as well.

    There was an older article on slashdot about this same subject, the dogs can smell the flash, drives not the how the individual bits are arranged. Also I wonder how they can tell if if they are flash drives, and not just some other random integrated circuit with chips...

  24. Wait, what? by jpatters · · Score: 2

    I was skimming the summery and about halfway through I was thinking they were talking about some device that they plug your thumb drive into and it detects weather it contains porn or not, which is dubious enough; but then I suddenly realized that it was a literal dog named URL (in all caps) and suddenly I couldn't decide which of those two things is stupider.

    I'm sure the dog is happy, it doesn't know that its job is total bullshit. Ignorance truly is bliss.

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  25. Re:Better solution... by cdrudge · · Score: 2

    It solves one problem but creates many more since case law isn't settled on if you have a right to be silent regarding encryption keys.

  26. Re: AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Another reason the Muslim religion is full of fucking wack jobs.

    Anybody who believes this shit or follows this shit is inherently a sucker.

  27. Re: AFAIK Porn is not illegal. by Razed+By+TV · · Score: 2

    Keep voting for an all-powerful government - and reap what you sow.

    But that's the only choice they've given me!